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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jimmy on January 11, 2015, 03:12:11 PM
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Cant make it tuesday but good luck to the lads chance for youngsters have a run out is say fringe players but we haven't really any with the squad so small maybe start Gillespie and perry Parton
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Should be a good game looking forward to it
Ballers will meet you at Thirsty Scholar 4pm
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I think it would be good to see some of the reserve squad mixed with the squad players. The likes of Joel Swift, Sam Heathcote and Ryan Barry should be training with the first team anyway. It will be another step in there development.
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You all know my views on the CSC by now....but I'll be there on Tuesday to see who we have up our sleeves. Might even spot the next Duncan Watmore !
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Will be at work, plus saving for Torquay. Will RR be on for the Vics game?
Cheers
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I'll go straight from work as I'm based in Knutsford and therefore just down the road from Northwich.
Oh yeah, right...
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I'll go straight from work as I'm based in Knutsford and therefore just down the road from Northwich.
Oh yeah, right...
Jimmy working in Cadishead tomorrow, he going to swim the canal to get there
He say see you in the bar with your flippers
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Will be at work, plus saving for Torquay. Will RR be on for the Vics game?
Cheers
Yes sir...it will.
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Who can we expect to be playing tonight? Will most of the Yorkshire/midlands contingent have the night off?
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I'm sure theres a stupid Cheshire FA rule about playing 60 - 70% of your previous matchday squad?!
My team would be:
Parton
Leather CB
Havern CB
Brown LB
Reserve team RB
Crowther LW
Sean Williams CM
Gillespie CM (needs some game time!)
Heathcote RW (or another Reserve team RW)
Perry
Swift
Bench - Reserve team players
Rest Coburn, Marshall, Griffin, Richman, Lawrie, Clee, Reeves, Moult, Cavanagh, Densmore....
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Alty to win 4-1. Gillespie hat trick including a pen when Kyle Perry does an impression of a shot sack of potatoes in the box, and a Havern tap in from a corner.
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I'm sure theres a stupid Cheshire FA rule about playing 60 - 70% of your previous matchday squad?!
My team would be:
Parton
Leather CB
Havern CB
Brown LB
Reserve team RB
Crowther LW
Sean Williams CM
Gillespie CM (needs some game time!)
Heathcote RW (or another Reserve team RW)
Perry
Swift
Bench - Reserve team players
Rest Coburn, Marshall, Griffin, Richman, Lawrie, Clee, Reeves, Moult, Cavanagh, Densmore....
Who is Brown the LB? Also, isn't Heathcote Jr a CM by trade?
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I think the update on the website below means it will be very much a reserve and youth side. Don't think we can say as much but it's the closest I have seen to us doing so:
"With Altrincham having played five tough matches over the past fortnight, three of them away from home, and, with a small squad having picked up some niggly injuries, supporters can expect numerous changes to the Altrincham line-up against Northwich Victoria on Tuesday night. As a result, fringe first-team players and reserves will get the chance to show their ability in this Cheshire Senior Cup tie."
I'd play Scott Leather, Gillespie and Parton whilst the others trained.
Looking forward to seeing some new faces whilst trying to work out how Jim Gannon gets paid on crowds of 89 ;-)
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Will be at work, plus saving for Torquay. Will RR be on for the Vics game?
Cheers
Yes sir...it will.
Blessings upon your house.
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i expect to see at least 3 of the railway children in the team !!! that would be children of railway hale regulars !
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Looking forward to seeing some new faces whilst trying to work out how Jim Gannon gets paid on crowds of 89 ;-)
You lot taking 80 fans then😄
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Don't care who plays and long as we have someone man marking Summerskill.
We all know he can run the game given half the chance.
Looking forward to it
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I'm sure theres a stupid Cheshire FA rule about playing 60 - 70% of your previous matchday squad?!
My team would be:
Parton
Leather CB
Havern CB
Brown LB
Reserve team RB
Crowther LW
Sean Williams CM
Gillespie CM (needs some game time!)
Heathcote RW (or another Reserve team RW)
Perry
Swift
Bench - Reserve team players
Rest Coburn, Marshall, Griffin, Richman, Lawrie, Clee, Reeves, Moult, Cavanagh, Densmore....
Who is Brown the LB? Also, isn't Heathcote Jr a CM by trade?
Sure he plays in the reserves. I saw him play pre-season (think against Mossley). Although it's also highly possible i'm making it up :-)
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Is this the quater finals ?
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I'm sure theres a stupid Cheshire FA rule about playing 60 - 70% of your previous matchday squad?!
My team would be:
Parton
Leather CB
Havern CB
Brown LB
Reserve team RB
Crowther LW
Sean Williams CM
Gillespie CM (needs some game time!)
Heathcote RW (or another Reserve team RW)
Perry
Swift
Bench - Reserve team players
Rest Coburn, Marshall, Griffin, Richman, Lawrie, Clee, Reeves, Moult, Cavanagh, Densmore....
Who is Brown the LB? Also, isn't Heathcote Jr a CM by trade?
Sure he plays in the reserves. I saw him play pre-season (think against Mossley). Although it's also highly possible i'm making it up :-)
If you're thinking of David Brown I'm certain he's a right-back. :)
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Is this the quater finals ?
Round of sixteen.
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Parton & Gillespie need game time in my opinion tho' I'm not sure they'll get it tonight; I doubt any other regulars will feature. Leather & Perry have both had some time on the pitch lately; Swift will surely start; I would be amazed if any of the 11 who started Saturday were named tonight, & Lawrie & Cavanagh won't be risked. It will be a reserve/youth XI; the most important thing about tonight is that the game be completed, to be honest.
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Parton & Gillespie need game time in my opinion tho' I'm not sure they'll get it tonight; I doubt any other regulars will feature. Leather & Perry have both had some time on the pitch lately; Swift will surely start; I would be amazed if any of the 11 who started Saturday were named tonight, & Lawrie & Cavanagh won't be risked. It will be a reserve/youth XI; the most important thing about tonight is that the game be completed, to be honest.
I'd give Dave Parton the full game, bar that I agree with you Mike. No replay please.
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Looking forward to seeing some new faces whilst trying to work out how Jim Gannon gets paid on crowds of 89 ;-)
You lot taking 80 fans then😄
Graham, while we have got you on and everyone is in a nice mood, could you answer me a couple of questions of the Northwich thing.
Do the two clubs both feel that they are the real Northwich Victoria or it is not like that?
Was there a lot of acrimony at the start with some people sticking with the Flixton based thing who you may have expected to back the fans one?
Do 1874 fans look for the other Northwichs result on Saturday and enjoy a loss or are you not as narrow minded as I would be.
Genuinely interested on how it all works...
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Also, who on earth goes to watch Northwich Flixton Villa?
They must really hate their wives.
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Also, who on earth goes to watch Northwich Flixton Villa?
They must really hate their wives.
Not as much as they hate Northwich Vics ?
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Are there any rules about numbers of the last squad we must play?
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Are there any rules about numbers of the last squad we must play?
I looked it up on the Cheshire FA website (saddo that I am!):
Rule 4 - "Clubs must be represented by their strongest available team. Youth teams are not acceptable in this competition. Any Clubs failing to comply with this rule shall be fined not less than £500.00". Cue medical certificates, I think ...
Incidentally, Rule 18(a) confirms that if a draw after 90 minutes it's extra time (15 minutes each way) then penalties, so weather permitting it WILL be finished on the night.
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Also, who on earth goes to watch Northwich Flixton Villa?
They must really hate their wives.
One of my favourite stats of all time -
Sat Nov 24 2012
NWCFL 1st Division Trophy
Northwich Villa 3 Chadderton 0
Attendance 5 (yes, that's right , FIVE)
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Looking forward to seeing some new faces whilst trying to work out how Jim Gannon gets paid on crowds of 89 ;-)
You lot taking 80 fans then
Graham, while we have got you on and everyone is in a nice mood, could you answer me a couple of questions of the Northwich thing.
Do the two clubs both feel that they are the real Northwich Victoria or it is not like that?
Was there a lot of acrimony at the start with some people sticking with the Flixton based thing who you may have expected to back the fans one?
Do 1874 fans look for the other Northwichs result on Saturday and enjoy a loss or are you not as narrow minded as I would be.
Genuinely interested on how it all works...
Mark
Thanks for the interest. Genuinely most 1874 fans have little or no interest in what purports to be Northwich Victoria. We are a new club with a seperate identity who have no association with NVFC (or JRFC as they are known as). The only fans left at Flixton are a number of known individuals who continue to stick their heads in the sand and don't seem to question how the club is run.
Maybe the most telling point is that from a former Vics fan of over 30 years I'll be hoping you put one over them tonight.
They are rumoured to be taking up a ground share option with Witton from next season and the Vics fans left seem to think all the 1874 fans will flock over there to support them once they are back in Northwich. Yet again they are deluded if they think that will happen.
If you fancy taking in a game at Barton Stadium you will be made very welcome.
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I went to phophotograph the 1874 games vs GNE and was very impressed with the setup at the Barton Stadium (less so the floodlights!) and was made very welcome by all, despite not making a secret of the fact I was an Alty fan.
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A viable northwich team need to be a strength in non-league again, the current situation is very sad, I miss runcorn too
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Saw 1874 at Mossley (playing Oldham Borough) earlier this season; they provided the vast majority of the crowd (216 was the total figure) & the fans were the authentic old Vics support. I hope they continue to prosper.
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was made very welcome by all, despite not making a secret of the fact I was an Alty fan
They like Alty fans at 1874 - they got used to me :-)
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Saw 1874 at Mossley (playing Oldham Borough) earlier this season; they provided the vast majority of the crowd (216 was the total figure) & the fans were the authentic old Vics support. I hope they continue to prosper.
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Blasphemy, Mike, surely?
Does Jeff Forshaw mean nothing to you.....?
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Saw 1874 at Mossley (playing Oldham Borough) earlier this season; they provided the vast majority of the crowd (216 was the total figure) & the fans were the authentic old Vics support. I hope they continue to prosper.
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Blasphemy, Mike, surely?
Does Jeff Forshaw mean nothing to you.....?
If they are the true inheritors of the Authentic V*cs (which they are), they really should be the target of our opprobrium shouldn't they? The others are beneath our contempt which is why we're sending the ressies to play them. ;)
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
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We've lost to a team with Brian Summerskill in it.
Sinnout
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Didn't disgrace themselves and they will have learnt a lot from tonight. Shame we couldn't get on the scoresheet.
We said on the way back, you'd like to take Jim Rushe to one side and say 'Really? What are you or anyone getting out of this?'. So depressing to see 2 Northwich fans!!
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Farce
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FC United won.
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I applaud tonight's team selection and hope the first team either had a well earned rest or a light training session in initial preparation for Saturday's key fixture against torquay
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I applaud tonight's team selection and hope the first team either had a well earned rest or a light training session in initial preparation for Saturday's key fixture against torquay
This is it. The key result of the night for us was 9 man Halifax somehow winning 2-1 at Dartford, gotta be a morale crusher for the Darts. Obvs no chickens being counted here with recent talk of our epic 96-97 charge to relegation, but the current bottom 4 don't have many games in hand and all too have GD that's significantly worse than ours. The first XI have just played 6 games in 21 days and done a fair bit of travelling too so can't argue with the selection tonight. I'd been disappointed if I'd paid money to watch it but the bigger picture is very healthy at the moment.
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FC United won.
Arsed
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Didn't you read the main site?
Also we played mostly youth players against Tranmere in the semi finals last year
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Any vics players worth having? What was Aboubacar Sanogo like?
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Any vics players worth having? What was Aboubacar Sanogo like?
Been informed that they weren't much of note but obviously I can't comment fully.
Only player of note over at Tameside Stadium was FC United's Tom Greaves. Never stopped running and reminded me of Damian Reeves in that regard, very comfortable on the ball and took his goal well to add to the two he scored on Saturday. It seems FC always have a decent striker.
Both sides were pretty uninspiring and the ball was in the air for the majority of the game, but Chorley didn't even try to play football really. They were very poor technically but I expected as much when I saw James Dean was leading their line. If they're a legitimate Conference North play-off side then the gap between the hell we were in last season and the national division has never been bigger.
Further, if that's even remotely the standard of football we can expect from Bath City then we'll do well to lose our tie.
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Didn't you read the main site?
Also we played mostly youth players against Tranmere in the semi finals last year
And in the final the year before?
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I was trying to remember when I'd seen some of these faces before. The website said fringe and reserve players. None of the ones I saw were exactly fringe and there is no real crossover between the reserve and first teams, despite a couple of unknowns on the bench at Kidderminster as unused subs. I would have expected some of the lesser used first team players using the game to get match fit.
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How many vics fans there ?
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Any vics players worth having? What was Aboubacar Sanogo like?
Been informed that they weren't much of note but obviously I can't comment fully.
Only player of note over at Tameside Stadium was FC United's Tom Greaves. Never stopped running and reminded me of Damian Reeves in that regard, very comfortable on the ball and took his goal well to add to the two he scored on Saturday. It seems FC always have a decent striker.
Both sides were pretty uninspiring and the ball was in the air for the majority of the game, but Chorley didn't even try to play football really. They were very poor technically but I expected as much when I saw James Dean was leading their line. If they're a legitimate Conference North play-off side then the gap between the hell we were in last season and the national division has never been bigger.
Further, if that's even remotely the standard of football we can expect from Bath City then we'll do well to lose our tie.
Maybe it was because he was playing against the rebels without a cause.
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How many vics fans there ?
Is that a trick question?
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Any vics players worth having? What was Aboubacar Sanogo like?
Been informed that they weren't much of note but obviously I can't comment fully.
Only player of note over at Tameside Stadium was FC United's Tom Greaves. Never stopped running and reminded me of Damian Reeves in that regard, very comfortable on the ball and took his goal well to add to the two he scored on Saturday. It seems FC always have a decent striker.
Both sides were pretty uninspiring and the ball was in the air for the majority of the game, but Chorley didn't even try to play football really. They were very poor technically but I expected as much when I saw James Dean was leading their line. If they're a legitimate Conference North play-off side then the gap between the hell we were in last season and the national division has never been bigger.
Further, if that's even remotely the standard of football we can expect from Bath City then we'll do well to lose our tie.
Maybe it was because he was playing against the rebels without a cause.
Superb work Sir. Played.
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Should rename themselves North Korea Victoria.
"Vics began the defence of their Cheshire F.A Senior Cup this evening with a 4-0 destruction of Vanarama Premier side Altrincham in the competition's second round. Josh Amis grabbed a quick-fire double close to half-time and Mike Roddy extended the lead to 3-0 with a confident penalty on 70', with sub' Richie Bennett completing the scoring in injury time".
Can't wait to read the full report.
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Should rename themselves North Korea Victoria.
"Vics began the defence of their Cheshire F.A Senior Cup this evening with a 4-0 destruction of Vanarama Premier side Altrincham in the competition's second round. Josh Amis grabbed a quick-fire double close to half-time and Mike Roddy extended the lead to 3-0 with a confident penalty on 70', with sub' Richie Bennett completing the scoring in injury time".
Can't wait to read the full report.
Kim Il Rushe scored a hat-trick...
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Any vics players worth having? What was Aboubacar Sanogo like?
No
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in front of a packed stadium of 55,000 adoring fans!
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Any vics players worth having? What was Aboubacar Sanogo like?
No
Sonogo area!
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I was trying to remember when I'd seen some of these faces before. The website said fringe and reserve players. None of the ones I saw were exactly fringe and there is no real crossover between the reserve and first teams, despite a couple of unknowns on the bench at Kidderminster as unused subs. I would have expected some of the lesser used first team players using the game to get match fit.
If they were first team fringe, then we have serious problems
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Didn't you read the main site?
Also we played mostly youth players against Tranmere in the semi finals last year
And in the final the year before?
Not actually the case - this was the first time we put a total reserve/youth team out - none of the 16 man squad have played for the first team this season
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Didn't you read the main site?
Also we played mostly youth players against Tranmere in the semi finals last year
And in the final the year before?
Not actually the case - this was the first time we put a total reserve/youth team out - none of the 16 man squad have played for the first team this season
Think the one in question is the 2011 final, where was just Twiss and Summerskill from the 1st team who played, the rest was youth.
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Twiss AND Summerskill? Can't imagine for one minute why we lost.
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Didn't you read the main site?
Also we played mostly youth players against Tranmere in the semi finals last year
And in the final the year before?
Not actually the case - this was the first time we put a total reserve/youth team out - none of the 16 man squad have played for the first team this season
Think the one in question is the 2011 final, where was just Twiss and Summerskill from the 1st team who played, the rest was youth.
Summerskill was a Sinnott signing, so he wasn't at the club when we played Northwich Vics at Nantwich Town in the CSC Final in April 2011.
The Alty team that evening comprised:
30. Craig DOOTSON, 2. Matthew FEARON, 4. Joe COOMBS, 5. James SMART, 3. Jake BARNABAS, 7. Wes BAYNES, 8. Ryan BROWN (capt.), 6. Mohamed COLY, 11. Famoud SONKO, 9. Michael TWISS, 19. Mark BEESLEY,
Subs: 1. Stuart COBURN (gk), 12. Ashley WOODS, 14. Shaun DENSMORE, 15. Theo KIDD, 16. Sam LANGFORD,
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I was trying to remember when I'd seen some of these faces before. The website said fringe and reserve players. None of the ones I saw were exactly fringe and there is no real crossover between the reserve and first teams, despite a couple of unknowns on the bench at Kidderminster as unused subs. I would have expected some of the lesser used first team players using the game to get match fit.
If they were first team fringe, then we have serious problems
Isn't the fundamental problem that the titular reserve team is playing at a level that is a long way below Vanarama Conference (or even Vanarama Conference North) standard?
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I think it's largely set up so that the youth teamers don't drift off straightaway rather than any real preparation for conference football
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I was trying to remember when I'd seen some of these faces before. The website said fringe and reserve players. None of the ones I saw were exactly fringe and there is no real crossover between the reserve and first teams, despite a couple of unknowns on the bench at Kidderminster as unused subs. I would have expected some of the lesser used first team players using the game to get match fit.
If they were first team fringe, then we have serious problems
Isn't the fundamental problem that the titular reserve team is playing at a level that is a long way below Vanarama Conference (or even Vanarama Conference North) standard?
To use a modern term they would more correctly be called the development squad.
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What a waste of time that was. I'd like to have known that we'd be playing the entire reserve team tonight so I could have decided not to go. The lads won the first 20 mins 0-0 and it looked like they they were going to rip Flixton apart, but then skill and enthusiasm was no match for stamina. As soon as the legs went the other lot had time and space and Brian Somerville looked like Cristiano Ronaldo.
Didn't you read the main site?
Also we played mostly youth players against Tranmere in the semi finals last year
And in the final the year before?
Not actually the case - this was the first time we put a total reserve/youth team out - none of the 16 man squad have played for the first team this season
Think the one in question is the 2011 final, where was just Twiss and Summerskill from the 1st team who played, the rest was youth.
Summerskill was a Sinnott signing, so he wasn't at the club when we played Northwich Vics at Nantwich Town in the CSC Final in April 2011.
The Alty team that evening comprised:
30. Craig DOOTSON, 2. Matthew FEARON, 4. Joe COOMBS, 5. James SMART, 3. Jake BARNABAS, 7. Wes BAYNES, 8. Ryan BROWN (capt.), 6. Mohamed COLY, 11. Famoud SONKO, 9. Michael TWISS, 19. Mark BEESLEY,
Subs: 1. Stuart COBURN (gk), 12. Ashley WOODS, 14. Shaun DENSMORE, 15. Theo KIDD, 16. Sam LANGFORD,
Cheers Nasha and Cult! That's the game I was thinking of. Didn't realise that was almost 4(!) years ago. I knew I'd be able to rely on people such as your good selves to help me out. :)
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Death of the Cheshire Cup ????? How I used to love the two legged semi's with Runcorn, the finals at Wincham park agains the Vics & the milk men . It's all bolloxed now :P just the play offs and a trip to Wembley left.
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Believe it or not, a book is being written on the Cheshire Senior Cup; what it used to be like and how it is now. I am doing a bit of research for the author and conducted an impromptu interview with Taxi Phil on Tuesday night. If anyone has any more thoughts on the competition's decline or memories of big CSC games in days past then I'd appreciate it.
And before anyone asks, no, I don't know why anyone would want to write a book on it!
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There was a time around 35 years ago that Alty, Macc, Vics and Runcorn were all top sides and there were real rivalries, add in the league sides, Crewe and Tranmere used to enter, can't remember if County did. Even then though there was resentment that it took priority over the league and at one time games were on Saturdays.r
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Believe it or not, a book is being written on the Cheshire Senior Cup; what it used to be like and how it is now. I am doing a bit of research for the author and conducted an impromptu interview with Taxi Phil on Tuesday night. If anyone has any more thoughts on the competition's decline or memories of big CSC games in days past then I'd appreciate it.
And before anyone asks, no, I don't know why anyone would want to write a book on it!
I have a copy of a book on the early years of the Senior Cup (1880-1915) by a chap called Keith Clayton. Basically it's a season-by-season record with some match reports. There was talk of a second volume but I for one haven't heard any more of it.
As to thoughts on the decline of the CSC, yes, I have some; you could date its gradual decline to the inception of the NPL (1968), the FA Trophy (1969) & finally the APL (1979) & the consequent widening of bigger clubs' horizons. I could rabbit on about this but will save others the pain of reading my verbal diarrhoea at the moment - I might try to put my thoughts in some sort of order at some stage!
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In the days when Northwich, Runcorn, Witton, Macclesfield and Altrincham (could probably include Winsford in that too) were all playing together at the highest levels on non-league football the CSC had some real rivalry in it. Now it all seems a bit pointless.
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Believe it or not, a book is being written on the Cheshire Senior Cup; what it used to be like and how it is now. I am doing a bit of research for the author and conducted an impromptu interview with Taxi Phil on Tuesday night. If anyone has any more thoughts on the competition's decline or memories of big CSC games in days past then I'd appreciate it.
And before anyone asks, no, I don't know why anyone would want to write a book on it!
Well, I did see Alty play at Cammell Laird in February 1978 but I'd really rather not talk about it....
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The following year against Lairds wasn't much better - nor the previous years 3 semi finals against Vics
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Well, I did see Alty play at Cammell Laird in February 1978 but I'd really rather not talk about it....
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Why, did we ship a lot of goals in the 6 yard box?
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Believe it or not, a book is being written on the Cheshire Senior Cup; what it used to be like and how it is now. I am doing a bit of research for the author and conducted an impromptu interview with Taxi Phil on Tuesday night. If anyone has any more thoughts on the competition's decline or memories of big CSC games in days past then I'd appreciate it.
And before anyone asks, no, I don't know why anyone would want to write a book on it!
I have a copy of a book on the early years of the Senior Cup (1880-1915) by a chap called Keith Clayton. Basically it's a season-by-season record with some match reports. There was talk of a second volume but I for one haven't heard any more of it.
As to thoughts on the decline of the CSC, yes, I have some; you could date its gradual decline to the inception of the NPL (1968), the FA Trophy (1969) & finally the APL (1979) & the consequent widening of bigger clubs' horizons. I could rabbit on about this but will save others the pain of reading my verbal diarrhoea at the moment - I might try to put my thoughts in some sort of order at some stage!
This one is less about statistics and more about why the competition is still played when it doesn't seem to stir up the slightest bit of interest in players/fans...I believe there's going to be some interviews with Cheshire FA officials.
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Hash tells me he once went to an away CSC tie at General Chemicals in sub zero temperatures. Now THAT is dedication.....we're not worthy Stu ::)