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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: joe on November 12, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
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n/t
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I'm not going to comment on a match that I had the good sense to duck, but so help me if we don't at least shape on Saturday my season ticket may well end up in the bin.
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Might join you. Definitely won't renew it if Sinnott's still here next year.
There's enough sh*t going on without that kn*bhead adding to it. I want to feel good about footie not angry.
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I'm not going to comment on a match that I had the good sense to duck, but so help me if we don't at least shape on Saturday my season ticket may well end up in the bin.
I am! The text commentary described a poor game that Alty did nothing about. IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
All very good getting results at Halifax and Lincoln, but wasted if you play poorly and lose to relegation rivals.
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Who's a ready made conf manager that can step in and do the business? I only say this as last time it didn't work and cost a fotune.It needs to be someone proven at this level, and not revisiting the past
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Jim Gannon?
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The problem last time was that we left it too late and we were playing catch up, also we didn't appoint a proven conference manager although McKenna did his best. Im sure there would be a huge interest currently, if we get into bottom 4 then the pool would diminish.
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Who's a ready made conf manager that can step in and do the business? I only say this as last time it didn't work and cost a fotune.It needs to be someone proven at this level, and not revisiting the past
Not this debate again - you can't keep a failing manager - he has lost the dressing room
Can't keep making excuses to not take action - the club needs to grow some bollocks
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Didnt he get sacked from Stockport as they were on their way down from the confetence
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Didnt he get sacked from Stockport as they were on their way down from the confetence
Yes, sacked in the January, the day after their new CEO started. Believe he left football for a while, until he got the Vics job.
Not much else about, locally anyway.
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Who's a ready made conf manager that can step in and do the business? I only say this as last time it didn't work and cost a fotune.It needs to be someone proven at this level, and not revisiting the past
Not this debate again - you can't keep a failing manager - he has lost the dressing room
Can't keep making excuses to not take action - the club needs to grow some bollocks
I'm not adverse Jamie, I'm just proffering the question of who as it proved fruitless and costly last time
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Who's a ready made conf manager that can step in and do the business? I only say this as last time it didn't work and cost a fotune.It needs to be someone proven at this level, and not revisiting the past
Not this debate again - you can't keep a failing manager - he has lost the dressing room
Can't keep making excuses to not take action - the club needs to grow some bollocks
I'm not adverse Jamie, I'm just proffering the question of who as it proved fruitless and costly last time
This is a decision for the board - but to continue the status quo is not acceptable, and you should see that
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We might as well let Status Quo run the team.....they could hardly do a worse job than Sinnott.
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As I said above, not adverse to a change. But we can't have a situation like last time. We got relegated anyway and had to play catch up the following preseason. I genuinely don't know who's available whod fit the bill
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Its not your job to know who is or isn't available though pete, thats a job for the board.
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As I said above, not adverse to a change. But we can't have a situation like last time. We got relegated anyway and had to play catch up the following preseason. I genuinely don't know who's available whod fit the bill
It is worth the risk of trying someone else maybe they won't fit the bill but if the club is ran aswell as we say they will make the correct choice
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True, but I'd like to know what cards are in the pack before shouting stick or twist, we'd probably end up with graham Heathcote back, again. Gary Lowe out of the game too long and never managed a conference club. Anyone of reasonable pedigree seems to be in a job. A young up and coming manager is a nice thought, but we haven't time for that. Should we, for arguments sake, lose our next four games. We can't give someone ten games to get their head around it. They'd have to be straight in, have a plan, have players in mind, and implement them immediately
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I think that arguement is a cop out
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I agree Jimmy but reckon that would be Rowley's excuse too.
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True, but I'd like to know what cards are in the pack before shouting stick or twist, we'd probably end up with graham Heathcote back, again. Gary Lowe out of the game too long and never managed a conference club. Anyone of reasonable pedigree seems to be in a job. A young up and coming manager is a nice thought, but we haven't time for that. Should we, for arguments sake, lose our next four games. We can't give someone ten games to get their head around it. They'd have to be straight in, have a plan, have players in mind, and implement them immediately
It can't be delayed any longer....the new man would need to be very active during the January window. But as you say Pete, there's nobody of proven pedigree out there right now.
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Why isn't there anyone proven, who do you know would apply?
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I'm not saying nobody would apply, I'm asking who, is currently available that would have the right credentials, to work part time, and keep a semi pro side up, and have the correct contacts etc to make the required changes? Im not saying keep or sack the manager, However this horror run of games leading in to December may leave us no choice but to make a change.
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They should ask you, you've wanted him out for 3 years, so should have an insite in to it
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Don't round on me for proffering a question, you've not answered my initial question, and we're ten posts further on..
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absolutely sh*te SINNOUT
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Its not your job to know who is or isn't available though pete, thats a job for the board.
Spot on
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Petrocelli is absolutely correct. Appointing a new manager at this stage of the season is easier said than done and even if the board were open to the idea they'd be faced with enormous obstacles, not least financial ones.
Marcos Bignot at Solihull would be my shout. He has overachieved at Moors for years, but I just can't see it happening. The money might be better off spent on bringing in a couple of fresh faces on the playing front.
I think my opinion might be a little different had I attended the previous two games though..
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Went last night as I couldn't go on Sunday. It was a truly woeful game. Telford slowed the game down after scoring in the 25th minute! Even after putting the game beyond our reach, they continued with their time wasting and play acting which went unpunished by the spineless referee. They will (and deserve to be) relegated for playing such a negative style of football. How their fans put up with watching that every week is beyond me. But, let's remember, this was the team to which we lost! From the kick off, which was a long weak punt straight to their keeper, we looked sluggish. There was no movement whatsoever and our passing, especially in the final third, was abysmal. We were slow and weak when in possession and when we did manage to cross from wide areas, there was no-one in the box. Perry was inert, Gillespie was inept. Reeves seemed to be in a particular sulky mood the whole evening and didn't appear to be bothered when he ought to have scored late in the game. For all of this, I blame the management team. To be fair to him, Lee has achieved what he set out to do - get us promoted. But he clearly had no idea what to do after that and is now out of his depth. He should step aside whilst he still has some dignity and give someone else the opportunity to keep us up in this league. My shout would be Mark Bower, but I doubt whether we could tempt him away from Guiseley. If everyone at Alty wants to stay in this league, (and that may not be the case) then the management personnel needs to change before Christmas.
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Maybe Reeves looked fed up because he'd been left out of one of our key games that could define our fate this season and in a game following one of the worst days the clubs had in years, which makes the decision to drop him even worse in my view.
Surely Sinnott must have realised that yesterday was a day to give the fans a performance to help at least start the rebuilding after Sunday. And yet he leaves out our best player for a player who's scored once all season and played just a handful of games????? Can anybody understand this
If I was Reeves I'd have been fed up being on the bench yesterday whilst watching some of the others stealing a living....
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. If everyone at Alty wants to stay in this league, (and that may not be the case) then the management personnel needs to change before Christmas.
This could be surprisingly perceptive. I wonder if 1 or 2 may be out of their comfort level.
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I can fully understand starting with Gillespie. People are saying he isn't fit, and the only way he can get match-fit is by playing matches. Whilst I understand why Sinnott dropped Reeves and started Perry, it was never going to work as we had no width. The game was crying for the winger to get on, so it was odd that Crowther came on with only 5 minutes to go (more baffling when you think he is fit).
I'm one who wants LS to succeed, as the football we've played under him technically is the best I've seen from an Altrincham side. When we are clicking, we are a good team to watch. But when chips are down, we hide. It needs to change and quickly, either playing or management personnel.
The only positive from last night was that we didn't lose due to lack of effort. I know that is the bear minimum expected, but considering we didn't see it on Sunday it's something.
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If, with no lack of effort, we are unable to get some sort of result against the bottom club in the league, it doesn't augur well for the rest of the season.
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We play great football against the teams that allow us space. This ability is useless when playing against teams prepared to scrap for the ball even if not technically as proficient. The lack of ability to scrap has cost Altrincham a lot of points and a place in the FA Cup 2nd round.
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I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
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I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
No it's not, but we should be a good 10 points further away
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I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
I suspect you are im the minority.
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Uwe Röslers available..
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Uwe Röslers available..
On that note, depending on what (eventually) happens to Graham Barrow, he might be more realistic - or is that very much a ship that's sailed?
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Graham barrows first team coach at everton, but still the best manager we never had
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Graham barrows first team coach at everton, but still the best manager we never had
He moved back to Wigan in the summer, and therefore he is now Caretaker Manager. Of course, his fate over the coming week or so remains to be seen.
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I hadn't realised he's gone back. He worked wonders here in his short time with us as number two. Best side we'd had since the early 90s
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There is always the other option that Wigan will come in for Sinnout and pay us shedloads of money for his services ;D ;D (http://;D)
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No comment from the board / manager yet?
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Uwe Röslers available..
Sensible suggestions please Peter
The lads from Guiseley will do for me
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What if they get a better offer after a matter of weeks and want their contracts ripping up or they will sulk?
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There is something else we need to think about here as well
We are now in a full time leauge with part time players
On paper we are relegation fodder from the off - it was the same last time we were in the leauge
These players have jobs and now have to travel and play football at a harder level - how tiring is that i wonder ??
Thats why Walshaw went
Now im not making excuses and i wont just like the captains log on the official site - he takes full responsibilty and they should
I suppose what angers me and most on here as well is how we turn up for some games and not for others
We have won games i thought we would be comprehensively beaten in and we have lost games that begger belief ( Southport away , Blyth and Telford away to name 3 )
It feels like we raise oursleves for the big games ( however if Blyth was not a big game i am not sure what was)
In summary - im not happy like most on here - but on paper sadly we will lose more than we win at this level (leauge games)
If lee keeps us up that has to be mission accomplished does it not?
I suppose its the manner we play in - I was fuming at Southort even more so at Blyth
Like i have said before i can take losing that does not bother me but not when we dont give a sh*t
The manager is the leader and both captian and manager should lead inspire and motivate the team to success
All i ask in 100% commitment
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Further to this though Lee has to take action
He cant do nothing
I agree that the weakest players have to leave ASAP and new brought in
If we do nothing we will fail - i am certain of that fact
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Uwe Röslers available..
Sensible suggestions please Peter
The lads from Guiseley will do for me
I hardly think Boshell is going to come back after all the song and dance he made of going to Guiseley last year.
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There is something else we need to think about here as well
We are now in a full time leauge with part time players
On paper we are relegation fodder from the off - it was the same last time we were in the leauge
These players have jobs and now have to travel and play football at a harder level - how tiring is that i wonder ??
Thats why Walshaw went
Now im not making excuses and i wont just like the captains log on the official site - he takes full responsibilty and they should
I suppose what angers me and most on here as well is how we turn up for some games and not for others
We have won games i thought we would be comprehensively beaten in and we have lost games that begger belief ( Southport away , Blyth and Telford away to name 3 )
It feels like we raise oursleves for the big games ( however if Blyth was not a big game i am not sure what was)
In summary - im not happy like most on here - but on paper sadly we will lose more than we win at this level (leauge games)
If lee keeps us up that has to be mission accomplished does it not?
I suppose its the manner we play in - I was fuming at Southort even more so at Blyth
Like i have said before i can take losing that does not bother me but not when we dont give a sh*t
The manager is the leader and both captian and manager should lead inspire and motivate the team to success
All i ask in 100% commitment
To be fair only half this leauge full time it has changed from when last up
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I didn't realise I thought we were in the minority of part time teams didn't realise it was 50 50
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I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
No it's not, but we should be a good 10 points further away
I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
I suspect you are im the minority.
In all honesty this happens after every defeat at the moment and I think that whilst Blyth was an absolute abomination, we're doing alright in the league. Spouting stuff like "sinnout" and "changes desperately needed" every other week is a massive over reaction to a fanbase that in the majority has frankly acquired impossible expectations and a spoilt attitude from somewhere. Lee Sinnott has overseen some poor performances, made some bad decisions (what manager hasn't?) and I agree that we need to drop 1 or 2 players this year, but he is also responsible for picking us up after a dire relegation campaign, getting us promoted playing the best football I've seen supporting Alty and improved us on paper every season. We're in pretty much the same position as we were last time we came up from the North yet I can't recall the fans being nearly this hostile.
I remember after Ferriby away, after Gloucester A and Harrogate H last season that we'd completely written ourselves off from getting anywhere near the top 5 yet we did it. We'd have also given anything to be in the national again playing Macc and Bristol amongst others but now that we're actually here I think that some are taking it for granted. We're a newly promoted side through the playoffs, part time and we're 18th in the Conference, a league where every point is an achievement for a club like ours. Not too bad really.
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Please don't go on about part time see post above besides iv seen wank like southport and Nuneaton and alfreton and it wouldn't be much of achievement to beat them
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I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
No it's not, but we should be a good 10 points further away
I'm fully confident that he'll keep us up. It's not like we're masses of points adrift of safety is it? We're not even in the relegation zone!
I suspect you are im the minority.
In all honesty this happens after every defeat at the moment and I think that whilst Blyth was an absolute abomination, we're doing alright in the league. Spouting stuff like "sinnout" and "changes desperately needed" every other week is a massive over reaction to a fanbase that in the majority has frankly acquired impossible expectations and a spoilt attitude from somewhere. Lee Sinnott has overseen some poor performances, made some bad decisions (what manager hasn't?) and I agree that we need to drop 1 or 2 players this year, but he is also responsible for picking us up after a dire relegation campaign, getting us promoted playing the best football I've seen supporting Alty and improved us on paper every season. We're in pretty much the same position as we were last time we came up from the North yet I can't recall the fans being nearly this hostile.
I remember after Ferriby away, after Gloucester A and Harrogate H last season that we'd completely written ourselves off from getting anywhere near the top 5 yet we did it. We'd have also given anything to be in the national again playing Macc and Bristol amongst others but now that we're actually here I think that some are taking it for granted. We're a newly promoted side through the playoffs, part time and we're 18th in the Conference, a league where every point is an achievement for a club like ours. Not too bad really.
Very sensible post. I agree that there appear to be very inflated expectations in some quarters. To maintain our status in this division would be an achievement to celebrate. We will need to wheel & deal a bit in January - the number of players whose position is in question might be 3/4 rather than 1/2 - but a sense of proportion is needed. I for one expected defeat on Wednesday after Sunday; I wasn't at Telford so won't comment on what I didn't see. On Saturday I hope to see an honest effort - any points from this game will be pure bonus. I have my reservations about the management team but still think them capable of leading us to 20th place (or marginally better) come the end of April, and that, if it happens, should be judged an entirely satisfactory outcome.
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We have lost to 6 part time sides and lost to all the bottom 5
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We have lost to 6 part time sides and lost to all the bottom 5
and - as good as some other results have been - that is just not good enough and truly shocking.
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There is something else we need to think about here as well
We are now in a full time leauge with part time players
On paper we are relegation fodder from the off - it was the same last time we were in the leauge
These players have jobs and now have to travel and play football at a harder level - how tiring is that i wonder ??
Thats why Walshaw went
Now im not making excuses and i wont just like the captains log on the official site - he takes full responsibilty and they should
I suppose what angers me and most on here as well is how we turn up for some games and not for others
We have won games i thought we would be comprehensively beaten in and we have lost games that begger belief ( Southport away , Blyth and Telford away to name 3 )
It feels like we raise oursleves for the big games ( however if Blyth was not a big game i am not sure what was)
In summary - im not happy like most on here - but on paper sadly we will lose more than we win at this level (leauge games)
If lee keeps us up that has to be mission accomplished does it not?
I suppose its the manner we play in - I was fuming at Southort even more so at Blyth
Like i have said before i can take losing that does not bother me but not when we dont give a sh*t
The manager is the leader and both captian and manager should lead inspire and motivate the team to success
All i ask in 100% commitment
To be fair only half this leauge full time it has changed from when last up
14 teams are full time 2 are in between 8 are part time that's not 50 50
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
everything ok then? Let the happy clapping begin
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
everything ok then? Let the happy clapping begin
read my original post I am far from happy I just want to fully understand the challenge against us stop being silly
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Granted I counted the sides that train 3 times a week as part time which they are but I make it 12 pro sides maybe wrong about Chester maybe 13
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
everything ok then? Let the happy clapping begin
read my original post I am far from happy I just want to fully understand the challenge against us stop being silly
then listen to what Jimmy is telling you instead of making up your own bollocks calculations
Incidentally Blyth were part time
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
everything ok then? Let the happy clapping begin
read my original post I am far from happy I just want to fully understand the challenge against us stop being silly
then listen to what Jimmy is telling you instead of making up your own bollocks calculations
Incidentally Blyth were part time
http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/features/columnists/7056/full-time-issue-is-a-major-dilemma/ why would I make up bollocks calculations ? I took it from the non leauge paper what stats are you using ?
Blyth are part time really ? I never new that
Stop being silly
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Great as winning against the big teams is, means nothing if you can't beat those around you- which we can't. 3 simply abysmal results in 4 games, Alfreton was poor, Blyth was a disgrace and can't believe people think we played well at Telford. Even if I'm just deluded and we did play well, we didn't win, didn't even get a point against a team bound for the CN next season.Throw in a couple of mind bogging decisions Sinnott makes in his infite wisdom, a lack of consistency in team selection and more importantly performances and results, a lack of goals and you have a team who have a very tough run ahead that if it goes wrong could throw us right back into the mix relegation wise. Big few weeks ahead- think some fresh faces couldn't harm us. If I had any sort of senior position I'd be battling through hell and high water to get Wally back, near enough whatever it takes - but it may be an impossibility I don't know, but surely everyone has their price? Sinnout?
Not just yet.
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Great as winning against the big teams is, means nothing if you can't beat those around you- which we can't. 3 simply abysmal results in 4 games, Alfreton was poor, Blyth was a disgrace and can't believe people think we played well at Telford. Even if I'm just deluded and we did play well, we didn't win, didn't even get a point against a team bound for the CN next season.Throw in a couple of mind bogging decisions Sinnott makes in his infite wisdom, a lack of consistency in team selection and more importantly performances and results, a lack of goals and you have a team who have a very tough run ahead that if it goes wrong could throw us right back into the mix relegation wise. Big few weeks ahead- think some fresh faces couldn't harm us. If I had any sort of senior position I'd be battling through hell and high water to get Wally back, near enough whatever it takes - but it may be an impossibility I don't know, but surely everyone has their price? Sinnout?
Not just yet.
great post
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
everything ok then? Let the happy clapping begin
read my original post I am far from happy I just want to fully understand the challenge against us stop being silly
then listen to what Jimmy is telling you instead of making up your own bollocks calculations
Incidentally Blyth were part time
http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/features/columnists/7056/full-time-issue-is-a-major-dilemma/ why would I make up bollocks calculations ? I took it from the non leauge paper what stats are you using ?
Blyth are part time really ? I never new that
Stop being silly
Last seasons facts however 12 13 or 14 full time sides the leauge is much weaker than last time when there was about 20
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:D Love this forum
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That's 33% part time if you exclude the in between teams who train 3 days a week
So on paper we would finish in the bottom third so we are exactly where I would expect us to be given the odds against us
everything ok then? Let the happy clapping begin
read my original post I am far from happy I just want to fully understand the challenge against us stop being silly
then listen to what Jimmy is telling you instead of making up your own bollocks calculations
Incidentally Blyth were part time
http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/features/columnists/7056/full-time-issue-is-a-major-dilemma/ why would I make up bollocks calculations ? I took it from the non leauge paper what stats are you using ?
Blyth are part time really ? I never new that
Stop being silly
Last seasons facts however 12 13 or 14 full time sides the leauge is much weaker than last time when there was about 20
fair enough didn't realise can't seem to find any official later stats than these anywhere.
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
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Sad lonely men
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
Teasers? Or T*ssers?
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I'd move hell and high water to get Wally in on loan, if only to play at home and regional away games. There's been players at part time clubs that can only do certain things and play certain games. Who remembers simon burgher at bromsgrove, who couldn't play Saturday's, seemed to score every midweek for them
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
Teasers? Or T*ssers?
both :)
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I'd move hell and high water to get Wally in on loan, if only to play at home and regional away games. There's been players at part time clubs that can only do certain things and play certain games. Who remembers simon burgher at bromsgrove, who couldn't play Saturday's, seemed to score every midweek for them
I agree we miss him hugely
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I'd move hell and high water to get Wally in on loan, if only to play at home and regional away games. There's been players at part time clubs that can only do certain things and play certain games. Who remembers simon burgher at bromsgrove, who couldn't play Saturday's, seemed to score every midweek for them
Get him in before he has to go to Barrow over christmas.
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
incidentally the article your misquoting is from last season
Regardless part time sides played this season = won 3, lost 5
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
incidentally the article your misquoting is from last season
Regardless part time sides played this season = won 3, lost 5
Yes I realise this thanks jimmy pointed it out to me
In terms of our results i agree our record to teams we should be beating is sh*t
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I'd move hell and high water to get Wally in on loan, if only to play at home and regional away games. There's been players at part time clubs that can only do certain things and play certain games. Who remembers simon burgher at bromsgrove, who couldn't play Saturday's, seemed to score every midweek for them
would be a good signing, but how would the rest of the team stack up?
Remember we need 5 in midfield to compete in this league
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
incidentally the article your misquoting is from last season
Regardless part time sides played this season = won 3, lost 5
I make it lost 6 maybe wrong
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
incidentally the article your misquoting is from last season
Regardless part time sides played this season = won 3, lost 5
Yes I realise this thanks jimmy pointed it out to me
In terms of our results i agree our record to teams we should be beating is sh*t
hold on your original post said we played in a full time league - yet the actual facts are that we have lost to 5 part time teams
Sort it out, get your facts right or don't post - no place for idol happy clapping at the moment
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:D Love this forum
it's full of teasers
incidentally the article your misquoting is from last season
Regardless part time sides played this season = won 3, lost 5
Yes I realise this thanks jimmy pointed it out to me
In terms of our results i agree our record to teams we should be beating is sh*t
hold on your original post said we played in a full time league - yet the actual facts are that we have lost to 5 part time teams
Sort it out, get your facts right or don't post - no place for idol happy clapping at the moment
I did yes and I also said that we have lost games that begger belief as well
as for the happy clapping bit ....stop being silly
Night night
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Uday, serious question. What would be deemed an acceptable season for you?
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Uday, serious question. What would be deemed an acceptable season for you?
I would accept pretty much anything as long as I saw 100% effort by both players and manager, if I thought we had a manager the players listened to
What about you?
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Uday, serious question. What would be deemed an acceptable season for you?
I would accept pretty much anything as long as I saw 100% effort by both players and manager, if I thought we had a manager the players listened to
What about you?
Staying up would be success for me, although I agree on the 100% commitment thing too, which we have seen under his management imo.
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Whilst it is true that at the moment we're doing ok in terms of our position in the table, the deeper issue is how we're playing.
If it wasn't for two potentially fortunate results (Bristol Rovers at home and Lincoln away) we'd be in a lot of trouble.
This isn't to downplay our achievements in these games, but more to make the point that given our diabolical record against the clubs around us if we want to stay up we'll have to keep winning games against the better clubs.
If we get the points return I expect from our next five fixtures we'll be in the relegation zone. How many people are confident that the team at the moment have the ability to drag themselves out of a relegation fight? One point out of fifteen against the bottom five suggests we don't have the balls for it.
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Uday, serious question. What would be deemed an acceptable season for you?
I would accept pretty much anything as long as I saw 100% effort by both players and manager, if I thought we had a manager the players listened to
What about you?
Staying up would be success for me, although I agree on the 100% commitment thing too, which we have seen under his management imo.
I think the attitude of staying up is a success will see you go down what iv seen of this leauge it's not great and below 16/17 would be bellow what we can achieve as for effort we downed tools at home to welling and lacked heart v Blyth the other games iv seen I wouldn't knock them for effort