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Title: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on November 01, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
That understands how or why we changed our formation? Worst showing of the season
PS get gillespie out on loan, miles off the pace
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: wayno on November 01, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
I can never get that 90 minutes of my life back
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Post by: AFC56 on November 01, 2014, 05:06:01 PM
Why is Gillespie still at the club? If he can't get in the team over Kyle Perry in game like today then he needs moving on. Perry is awful, truely woeful but Gillespie's lack of energy and effort when he comes on is unacceptable. Don't undertand why Williams has lost his place either? A player that moves the ball forward instead of from side to side. Baffled by the Sinnott's decisions. Horrible performance all round.
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Post by: Sarf London Alty on November 01, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
Utterly dire.

A bright start and Lawrie (I think it was him) missed an absolute sitter of an unmarked header from about 6 yards. We look good, they get a corner and bang 1-0 and after that the confidence surged through them and we seemed to get progressively worse. Topped off at the end with the most predictable Alty penalty miss I've seen since Colin Little in his last game against Cambridge a few years ago.

Make no mistake, Alfreton are not a good side and we made them look one.  They also seemed quicker to press us and fitter, especially concerning given they played midweek and we didn't. I think the return of Griffin will help us a lot and restore balance to the defence (and he does need to come straight back in) but further forward our passing was very poor, we only have one forward who is capable of scoring and Nicky Clee injured again. Doom and gloom tonight I'm afraid.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on November 01, 2014, 05:16:26 PM
Desperately need an injection of pace on loan, be it on the wing or upfront, we are totally pedestrian
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Post by: Bath Alty on November 01, 2014, 05:17:25 PM
I agree with Radio Robins team that the 11 men back for a corner routine is ridiculous.  Firstly the man who can make the most use of space in the box at a corner is the keeper who can come and collect the ball, secondly every other corner results in a follow up attack from the ball being cleared and having no-one who can get to it so they automatically get a second bite at the cherry.  It's madness.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Hale Alty on November 01, 2014, 05:40:16 PM
You've got to give credit to Alfreton for closing down everything with two or even sometimes three players around the Altrincham man. We never really put their goalkeeper under pressure. One save at the feet at of Sean Densmore and the penalty were the only real work he had all afternoon. If ever there was a game to show much we miss (a player of the calibre of) James Walshaw that was it.
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Post by: markecky on November 01, 2014, 06:00:02 PM
A very poor performance in a dreadful game. 

Followed a worrying pattern of start quite brightly, miss a decent chance ( Lawries header which wasn't easy I know) then concede allowing the away team to settle.

The long passes were too long, the short passes didn't go to feet.  We can play so much better than that.

Unless there is a reason we don't know then it was a mistake to change back to the 4-4-2 formation that wasn't working for us.  Although it sounds a bit negative to have one up front at home it was working for us well.

We've got off lightly with other results but we have to win those games to allow for the away defeats to the clubs we have to expect defeat at.

A sh*t day.  Now need to battle at Lincoln.
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Post by: eightiesrobin on November 01, 2014, 06:00:27 PM
As depressing a game as one could hope to see.

Regarding the defence:

I agree that Griffin must come back. Poor Scott Leather has played 12 of his 17 games this season out of position. I don't think I've seen anyone play at left back look so ill-at-ease.
I think I'm not the only one who hoped we'd seen the last of Tom Marshall after the Welling game, but fate has conspired against us.

Regarding the forwards:

Saying Kyle Perry is awful is like banging one's head against a brick wall. Everyone knows he is awful, except LS and perhaps a couple of  posters on the forum. His first touch is average, his second non-existent. His shot is powder-puff for a man his size.

Damien hasn't scored in 9 league games (when did that last happen?), not for want of trying. Gillespie's penalty miss sums up his Altrincham career so far. I haven't seen him do anything since he hit the bar against Lincoln. This team scored 95 league goals last year, and without something changing, will be lucky to score 40 this.

I know I've talked about this before, and got laughed at, but you can almost guarantee writing off any game in which we go 1-0 down.

In 2014, we have gone 1-0 down on 21 occasions. Of those 21 games, 2 were won (Brackley and Hednesford), 5 were drawn and 14 lost. This season makes for even more depressing reading - 1 draw and 10 defeats in 11 games.

Compare this to the 20 games in which we scored first: in 2014 18 wins, 2 draws , no defeats. This season - 5 wins, 1 draw, 0 defeats.

Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Ashley Alty on November 01, 2014, 06:05:40 PM
We'd have been solid mid table had we won today.  Let's get something at Lincoln  ;D
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: York Alty on November 01, 2014, 06:18:58 PM
We'd have been solid mid table had we won today.  Let's get something at Lincoln  ;D

...and the frustration is we capable of doing just that.

Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 01, 2014, 06:22:24 PM
I think going back to 4 4 2 was an overconfidence and a lack of respect to alfreton however sinnott has got a lot right lately so won't knock him to much today also like to see Williams back although a few bad passes added energy when he came on
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: eightiesrobin on November 01, 2014, 06:25:21 PM
I think going back to 4 4 2 was an overconfidence and a lack of respect to alfreton however sinnott has got a lot right lately so won't knock him to much today also like to see Williams back although a few bad passes added energy when he came on

Williams makes several bad passes most games. He has energy but looks out of his depth to me.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 01, 2014, 06:28:56 PM
Fair point but to me better than richman and cav
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Post by: brian1925 on November 01, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Contrary to most people on this thread, I don't think the problem was 442 today. We should be taking the game to Alfreton at home, but not with Kyle Perry as a starter! He's very effective at what he does when he comes on later in the game, but I've never, I repeat NEVER seen him contribute when he starts the game - a weird call by Lee.
Now, this won't be popular, but I'll say it anyway, but having watched Nicky play at Alty for so long now, you can just tell when he's not a bit arsed. Even my dad predicted he wanted to get subbed way before he actually was. I wish the bloke could just do us all a favour and tell the boss if he can't be arsed. He gave the ball away umpteen times, before he thankfully departed.
Lee, please please please, if you know one of your four defenders is going to be out for a month, just bring in a short term replacement on loan. Marshall at CB and Scott at LB DOES NOT BLOODY WORK!!!
Well done to Jake, who kept going in a crap team against crap opposition and well done to Shaun Densmore and Luca who did likewise.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: eightiesrobin on November 01, 2014, 06:44:07 PM
Kyle Perry is Lee Sinnott's pet - it said so on the website a couple of weeks ago, in a report on a meet-the-players do.  It went so far as to say that James Lawrie refers to LS as "Kyle's dad".
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: markecky on November 01, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Kyle Perry is an important member of the squad but only as an impact sub, it never works when he starts.

** edit, sorry missed out "In my opinion.." from the start
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: eightiesrobin on November 01, 2014, 06:50:59 PM
His body hitting the floor?
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 01, 2014, 06:57:48 PM
Contrary to most people on this thread, I don't think the problem was 442 today. We should be taking the game to Alfreton at home, but not with Kyle Perry as a starter! He's very effective at what he does when he comes on later in the game, but I've never, I repeat NEVER seen him contribute when he starts the game - a weird call by Lee.
Now, this won't be popular, but I'll say it anyway, but having watched Nicky play at Alty for so long now, you can just tell when he's not a bit arsed. Even my dad predicted he wanted to get subbed way before he actually was. I wish the bloke could just do us all a favour and tell the boss if he can't be arsed. He gave the ball away umpteen times, before he thankfully departed.
Lee, please please please, if you know one of your four defenders is going to be out for a month, just bring in a short term replacement on loan. Marshall at CB and Scott at LB DOES NOT BLOODY WORK!!!
Well done to Jake, who kept going in a crap team against crap opposition and well done to Shaun Densmore and Luca who did likewise.
I think jake has done ok this season but he backed out on a couple of 50/50s which he did in the past but hasn't this season
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: ripleym on November 01, 2014, 06:58:49 PM
For their goal, they had 3 men surrounding Stuart, with not an Alty shirt in sight.

Given we seem to have everyone back for set pieces, who was marking who?

Terrible goal to concede.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Mick on November 01, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Few positives today..........at the end of the game the Alfreton players were celebrating like they had just beaten Derby County in FA Cup Third Round........I don't think they could believe what an easy ride they had today

Too many here on the wage bill who are not contributing enough value to justifying keeping them........beat Blyth and use most of the money to freshen things up or we run a serious risk of seeing Flyde overtake us and having to visit Lowestoft next season
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:00:42 PM
That understands how or why we changed our formation? Worst showing of the season
PS get gillespie out on loan, miles off the pace
PS get gillespie out of the club

Dire
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 01, 2014, 07:02:11 PM
Or use are reserve side
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Hale Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:02:48 PM
I don't think you can blame Alfreton for celebrating like they did after the run they've been on. They thought they'd blown it when they gave away the penalty, so the relief was understandable.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:03:23 PM
Kyle Perry is an important member of the squad but only as an impact sub, it never works when he starts.

** edit, sorry missed out "In my opinion.." from the start
Kyle Perry is dog sh*t

Wake up man - you don't have to back the club over everything
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: markecky on November 01, 2014, 07:07:40 PM
Kyle Perry is an important member of the squad but only as an impact sub, it never works when he starts.

** edit, sorry missed out "In my opinion.." from the start
Kyle Perry is dog sh*t

Wake up man - you don't have to back the club over everything

Lol, you don't need to start taking your anger out on me.

Think I've made my points on how poor today was pretty clear in other threads. 

If I think that Perry has a role to play as a sub then I'll say it. I do, and I have.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
Few positives today..........at the end of the game the Alfreton players were celebrating like they had just beaten Derby County in FA Cup Third Round........I don't think they could believe what an easy ride they had today

Too many here on the wage bill who are not contributing enough value to justifying keeping them........beat Blyth and use most of the money to freshen things up or we run a serious risk of seeing Flyde overtake us and having to visit Lowestoft next season
To be fair Stuart Coburn over celebrates after every win

It's with real sadness that we not half the team we were last season - all the new players are average at best
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: brian1925 on November 01, 2014, 07:12:36 PM
It's weird how Kyle Perry is "dog sh*t" when we lose. It's funny how both Nicky and Damien seem to get away without a mention when their contribution is zero. Correct me if I am wrong, but did either of them do bloody anything today? Play a different record Uday.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Mick on November 01, 2014, 07:15:11 PM
No problems with their celebration......just pointing out how pleased they were to get a win here
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:19:53 PM
It's weird how Kyle Perry is "dog sh*t" when we lose. It's funny how both Nicky and Damien seem to get away without a mention when their contribution is zero. Correct me if I am wrong, but did either of them do bloody anything today? Play a different record Uday.
Kyle Perry is dog sh*t win lose or draw - yes blame our 2 best players, one of which only played first 20 minutes

Attitudes like yours is why Kyle played so many games last season, which cost us winning the league
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GolfRoader on November 01, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
Few positives today..........at the end of the game the Alfreton players were celebrating like they had just beaten Derby County in FA Cup Third Round........I don't think they could believe what an easy ride they had today

Too many here on the wage bill who are not contributing enough value to justifying keeping them........beat Blyth and use most of the money to freshen things up or we run a serious risk of seeing Flyde overtake us and having to visit Lowestoft next season
To be fair Stuart Coburn over celebrates after every win

It's with real sadness that we not half the team we were last season - all the new players are average at best

Every win we get in the Conference National is huge. Can understand limited celebration in the North but win a match in this league and you should be happy about it.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GolfRoader on November 01, 2014, 07:21:15 PM
It's weird how Kyle Perry is "dog sh*t" when we lose. It's funny how both Nicky and Damien seem to get away without a mention when their contribution is zero. Correct me if I am wrong, but did either of them do bloody anything today? Play a different record Uday.
Kyle Perry is dog sh*t win lose or draw - yes blame our 2 best players, one of which only played first 20 minutes

Attitudes like yours is why Kyle played so many games last season, which cost us winning the league

That is utter bollocks  ;D
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 01, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
It's weird how Kyle Perry is "dog sh*t" when we lose. It's funny how both Nicky and Damien seem to get away without a mention when their contribution is zero. Correct me if I am wrong, but did either of them do bloody anything today? Play a different record Uday.
Maybe Damien scoring over 100 goals and clee being our most creative player in 5 years give the leeway to be fair
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:29:48 PM
It's weird how Kyle Perry is "dog sh*t" when we lose. It's funny how both Nicky and Damien seem to get away without a mention when their contribution is zero. Correct me if I am wrong, but did either of them do bloody anything today? Play a different record Uday.
Maybe Damien scoring over 100 goals and clee being our most creative player in 5 years give the leeway to be fair
Spot on
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: brian1925 on November 01, 2014, 07:30:14 PM
Oh that's okay then Jimmy. They can be invisible all season then.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:31:51 PM
Oh that's okay then Jimmy. They can be invisible all season then.
Get a grip
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Hale Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:40:30 PM
Cut the abuse. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, even if you don't share it.
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Post by: Nasha on November 01, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
I was running late and missed Lawrie's header, but it was awful today. You have bad days at the office, but we are having these days too often against sides we need to get results against (Welling,Southport and Nuneaton being other examples).

As someone else has said,it will be great to get Griffin back in and bring some balance to the defence. On a number of occasions today I noticed Cav tracking back as Leather was losing his position.

Gillespie - It was a risk when we signed him as we knew he was injury prone,but has a proven Football League record. For him I think he needs game time to regain confidence,and a loan move would suit everyone.

Pick ourselves up and go again. After the despondency from Welling we picked up 10 from 15. A similar return wouldn't be bad.
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Post by: brian1925 on November 01, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
And back in the world of constructive criticism... both Alfreton strikers, Clayton and McDonald I think. They were very very limited strikers at this level, but what they did well was they never stopped working, particularly off the ball. Even I applauded McDonald off because he hassled and harried our centre backs throughout and what I would say to BOTH, yes BOTH Kyle and Damien is, watch that match through again and check out the work rate of those two lads and if they can even put in half as much effort in our next match it may make a difference.
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Post by: Alty Dave on November 01, 2014, 08:05:35 PM
Are Alfreton not fulltime?

This may explain why they looked fitter? Personally I thought Damo, worked bloody hard. KP was just his usual self.

Damo is getting no service in the 6 yard box hence his goals have dried up in my opinion.

I would release Gillesbie and Crowther.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: brian1925 on November 01, 2014, 08:50:53 PM
It's a difficult one with Crowther. He's one of the few players we have who can really take a full back on, but like one or two others he does tend to spend a lot of time out. Does anybody know when he will be back?
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: AFC56 on November 01, 2014, 08:51:22 PM
Yeh agree about crowther needing to go too. The lad is talented but never fit, can't afford to carry passengers. Him, Gillespie, kyle and Marshall need to go and some need blood brought in. Sadly, I think we all know that there is more chance of winning the euromillions than this happening.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Nom de plume on November 01, 2014, 08:54:26 PM
Please let us not forget that whilst Griffin has been absent for 3 games we have conceded only one goal. Don't  the back four deserve a pat on the back for that, whatever your thoughts on Marshall's ablity or Scott being out of position. The problem is the 6 in front of them and the inter passing between them.

For starters, I would start Williams ahead of Cavanagh and replace Perry. He shouldn't be at the club and as for him being an "impact sub" I need to look up the definition of impact. Without checking the Oxford dictionary I think it  means the kinetic  energy wasted when you hit the  deck when it would have been easier to stay on your feet. A  cameo role at Halifax does not make him worthy of an Alty shirt.

As for Crowther and Gillespie I dont see how we can expect them to shine when their total game time amounts to three fifths of diddly squat. I'm surprised they know their teammates' names. If they had been given as much game time as Perry they would have been able to develop a much better understanding with each other and with the rest of the team. Players that have started barely adequately but have improved because of continued selection include Griffin, Richman and Lawrie. I think Gillespie and Crowther deserve that same consideration. Perry has proved that no matter how much time you give him, he will always be a waste of a clean strip.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: eightiesrobin on November 01, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
Yeh agree about crowther needing to go too. The lad is talented but never fit, can't afford to carry passengers. Him, Gillespie, kyle and Marshall need to go and some need blood brought in. Sadly, I think we all know that there is more chance of winning the euromillions than this happening.

Never going to happen. Lee has made some truly baffling decisions in the past 12 months.

Signing Wilkinson and letting him play for 20 minutes a month.
Signing Gillespie and letting him play for 45 minutes a month
Signing an overweight rock band
Dropping Walshaw  (more than once!)
Dropping Reeves (more than once!)
Dropping Luca  (admittedly this only happened once, but it may be that Marshall's sending-off is the reason for that)
Signing Parton and dropping him as soon as he could, when he got concussion
Re-signing the entire squad five minutes after the playoff win, including a man injured for 9 months.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: markecky on November 01, 2014, 09:40:11 PM
Please let us not forget that whilst Griffin has been absent for 3 games we have conceded only one goal. Don't  the back four deserve a pat on the back for that, whatever your thoughts on Marshall's ablity or Scott being out of position. The problem is the 6 in front of them and the inter passing between them.

For starters, I would start Williams ahead of Cavanagh and replace Perry. He shouldn't be at the club and as for him being an "impact sub" I need to look up the definition of impact. Without checking the Oxford dictionary I think it  means the kinetic  energy wasted when you hit the  deck when it would have been easier to stay on your feet. A  cameo role at Halifax does not make him worthy of an Alty shirt.

As for Crowther and Gillespie I dont see how we can expect them to shine when their total game time amounts to three fifths of diddly squat. I'm surprised they know their teammates' names. If they had been given as much game time as Perry they would have been able to develop a much better understanding with each other and with the rest of the team. Players that have started barely adequately but have improved because of continued selection include Griffin, Richman and Lawrie. I think Gillespie and Crowther deserve that same consideration. Perry has proved that no matter how much time you give him, he will always be a waste of a clean strip.

Some good points, I used the wrong term in impact sub as I didn't mean that.  What I meant was he has a role to play in coming on as a sub.

He doesn't get enough goals but he is capable of scoring. 

He is an excellent player to bring on with 15-20 mins to go to hold it up and frustrate the opposition into giving away silly free kicks or getting booked or sent off.  His equaliser at Alfreton was timely and his goal at Barwell settled things nicely.    He gets very little credit at all on here ( although I have heard people not on here say it ) for some of the balls he plays.   People only focus on the negatives, the pass that went astray or the ball he didn't chase as he knew he wouldn't get it.  I don't want him to start games but in a club of our size where we aren't going to have superstars on the bench he will do for me.  Just my opinion.



Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on November 01, 2014, 11:55:34 PM
Quote
To be fair Stuart Coburn over celebrates after every win

Yeah, it's well over the top for a club legend to be happy about winning and celebrate with the fans.

 ::)

Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 02, 2014, 12:05:54 AM
Oh that's okay then Jimmy. They can be invisible all season then.
Bit harsh on reeves I think Brian calling him invisible when we are only in November and he has scored 8 goals in a struggling side
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 02, 2014, 12:10:10 AM
Please let us not forget that whilst Griffin has been absent for 3 games we have conceded only one goal. Don't  the back four deserve a pat on the back for that, whatever your thoughts on Marshall's ablity or Scott being out of position. The problem is the 6 in front of them and the inter passing between them.

For starters, I would start Williams ahead of Cavanagh and replace Perry. He shouldn't be at the club and as for him being an "impact sub" I need to look up the definition of impact. Without checking the Oxford dictionary I think it  means the kinetic  energy wasted when you hit the  deck when it would have been easier to stay on your feet. A  cameo role at Halifax does not make him worthy of an Alty shirt.

As for Crowther and Gillespie I dont see how we can expect them to shine when their total game time amounts to three fifths of diddly squat. I'm surprised they know their teammates' names. If they had been given as much game time as Perry they would have been able to develop a much better understanding with each other and with the rest of the team. Players that have started barely adequately but have improved because of continued selection include Griffin, Richman and Lawrie. I think Gillespie and Crowther deserve that same consideration. Perry has proved that no matter how much time you give him, he will always be a waste of a clean strip.
Don't go over the top about 1 goal in 3 conceded Braintree and alfreton are awfull and barwell 2 leagues lower
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: taxi Phil on November 02, 2014, 01:34:11 AM
Lee Sinnott wants to put a smile on people's faces. He certainly put one on Nicky Law's face after this debacle.

Given that I missed the Barnet game, this was simply the worst performance by an entire team that I've seen this season. I'm still going to Lincoln.....maybe my sanity has gone.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: brian1925 on November 02, 2014, 07:02:38 AM
I don't want to have a go at Reevesy Jimmy, the man is a living legend at our club. However, I don't think that it's a coincidence that his goals have dried up since we changed our formation. Abandoning the two up front (until yesterday when we clearly chose the wrong two starting strikers) and playing James a bit deeper behind the main striker means that Damian needs to work that extra bit harder - which he doesn't. The man is a poacher, not a grafter.  I think what it means is that if we want to change our formation to play weaker sides we probably don't have the personnel at our club to pull it off, so we come back to bringing in an extra body or two up front on loan, particularly while Crowther is out.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 02, 2014, 07:45:19 AM
Fair point to me I'd just not play 4 4 2 Damien will score less but that's a price to pay because playing 4 5  1 will keep us up I do agree we lack pace anyway and if possible new forward winger be good
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: robininstockport on November 02, 2014, 08:18:52 AM
Contrary to most people on this thread, I don't think the problem was 442 today. We should be taking the game to Alfreton at home, but not with Kyle Perry as a starter! He's very effective at what he does when he comes on later in the game, but I've never, I repeat NEVER seen him contribute when he starts the game - a weird call by Lee.
Now, this won't be popular, but I'll say it anyway, but having watched Nicky play at Alty for so long now, you can just tell when he's not a bit arsed. Even my dad predicted he wanted to get subbed way before he actually was. I wish the bloke could just do us all a favour and tell the boss if he can't be arsed. He gave the ball away umpteen times, before he thankfully departed.
Lee, please please please, if you know one of your four defenders is going to be out for a month, just bring in a short term replacement on loan. Marshall at CB and Scott at LB DOES NOT BLOODY WORK!!!
Well done to Jake, who kept going in a crap team against crap opposition and well done to Shaun Densmore and Luca who did likewise.

I replied to the Clee attack yesterday but removed the post on request from admin, so I'll tone it down.

If you think Clee wasn't arsed, you are way off the mark. Aside from the fact he went to A&E with a suspected broken toe, I thought he was our most creative player for the 25 minuets he was on the pitch. it certainly looked that way for the dour 65 minuets when he wasn't.

If you really don't think he's arsed when we lose or he's had a sh*tter of a game go in the bar and ask him. I'm sure he'll put you straight.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Jimmy on November 02, 2014, 08:26:03 AM
Good post Stockport unfortunately he is one of only 3 maybe 4 players the fans can chat to over a pint
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: brian1925 on November 02, 2014, 09:20:14 AM
In much the same way as Reevesy I'd hate Nicky to play for any other club. My one-year old daughter sings the Nicky Clee song for goodness sake! But it doesn't alter the fact that he IS our most creative player and he IS human, so sometimes he just doesn't look up for the fight to me. Yesterday was one of those occasions. I think he took one look at their very decent full back and thought, no thanks.
Of course, the point I'm trying to make is that when we lose it is always the same players who are blamed on here and that's just bloody lazy. We were collectively awful yesterday and that is hopefully how the game will be reported.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Toff Apple on November 02, 2014, 09:25:07 AM
We lost today because we expected to win.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: markecky on November 02, 2014, 10:46:48 AM
We lost today because we expected to win.

I think we lost yesterday because of a combination of an unnecessary formation change that hampered us from the start and left us unable to really change things and too many poor individual performances across the team. 

I doubt many players will have have been pleased with their contribution yesterday.

Liam Watson said a few weeks back that league clubs only want to give you kids these days.  I think a promising youngster with pace would be just what we needed.  Someone who just goes at people. Aside from yesterday we pass it well but sometimes we don't give the opposition enough to worry about.  One or two fresh faces are needed to liven things up a bit.

As poor as yesterday was, it's not all doom and gloom just yet.
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Post by: Jimmy on November 02, 2014, 11:06:27 AM
We have done a lot right recently but I think toffee apple is right we expected towin hence the change formation we showed them less respect than we shown Braintree
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Post by: Ballers on November 02, 2014, 11:17:38 AM
I'll give Perry and Marshall their due, at least they are up for the fight and want to play, unlike Crowther and Gillespie who are just malingering.

We badly need reinforcements.
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on November 02, 2014, 11:28:13 AM
Gillespie and Crowther are fast becoming this season's Twiss/Bowler type players. There is no room here for passengers and we all know what happened at the end of our first season with Twiss in the squad.

It's very worrying indeed.
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Post by: GB Alty on November 02, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
Gillespie and Crowther are fast becoming this season's Twiss/Bowler type players. There is no room here for passengers and we all know what happened at the end of our first season with Twiss in the squad.

It's very worrying indeed.
Dreadful signings
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Post by: oneedham on November 02, 2014, 12:50:09 PM
Please let us not forget that whilst Griffin has been absent for 3 games we have conceded only one goal. Don't  the back four deserve a pat on the back for that, whatever your thoughts on Marshall's ablity or Scott being out of position. The problem is the 6 in front of them and the inter passing between them.

For starters, I would start Williams ahead of Cavanagh and replace Perry. He shouldn't be at the club and as for him being an "impact sub" I need to look up the definition of impact. Without checking the Oxford dictionary I think it  means the kinetic  energy wasted when you hit the  deck when it would have been easier to stay on your feet. A  cameo role at Halifax does not make him worthy of an Alty shirt.

As for Crowther and Gillespie I dont see how we can expect them to shine when their total game time amounts to three fifths of diddly squat. I'm surprised they know their teammates' names. If they had been given as much game time as Perry they would have been able to develop a much better understanding with each other and with the rest of the team. Players that have started barely adequately but have improved because of continued selection include Griffin, Richman and Lawrie. I think Gillespie and Crowther deserve that same consideration. Perry has proved that no matter how much time you give him, he will always be a waste of a clean strip.

Some good points, I used the wrong term in impact sub as I didn't mean that.  What I meant was he has a role to play in coming on as a sub.

He doesn't get enough goals but he is capable of scoring. 

He is an excellent player to bring on with 15-20 mins to go to hold it up and frustrate the opposition into giving away silly free kicks or getting booked or sent off.  His equaliser at Alfreton was timely and his goal at Barwell settled things nicely.    He gets very little credit at all on here ( although I have heard people not on here say it ) for some of the balls he plays.   People only focus on the negatives, the pass that went astray or the ball he didn't chase as he knew he wouldn't get it.  I don't want him to start games but in a club of our size where we aren't going to have superstars on the bench he will do for me.  Just my opinion.




Always respect your thoughts Ecky but I can't agree on Kyle, if he even tried and gave his all then I'll be less critical but he is so lazy. To survive this league we can't have any passengers, because we simply aren't good enough. There will be keener, fitter and quicker lads in lower divisions that would jump at the chance to play for Alty and who would have more of an impact than Perry.  It's not just because he is poor but lazy that I dislike.  Everyone has the right to have their opinion but we are carrying 5-6 players and I don't want to go back down to th tin pot league when a few tweaks and new faces would put us around mid table or just below.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 02, 2014, 01:55:23 PM
I'll give Perry and Marshall their due, at least they are up for the fight and want to play, unlike Crowther and Gillespie who are just malingering.

We badly need reinforcements.
Disagree about Perry and Marshall - their dire and have no place at the club, if we want to stay up

They weren't good enough last season - so how they can be this season is beyond me
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Post by: eightiesrobin on November 02, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
First 9 games of the season, we scored 12 goals, 7 of them from Damien. In only 1 of those 9 games did we fail to score.

The next 9 league games of the season we have scored 5 goals, 0 from Damien. We have failed to score in 6 of those 9 games. Take away the Halifax game and we have scored 2 goals in 8 games.

This is not a dig at Damien, I think he is the dog's. You just can't rely on one man to score everything.

I can't see things getting any better until something changes.
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Post by: eightiesrobin on November 02, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
We lost today because we expected to win.

I think we lost yesterday because of a combination of an unnecessary formation change that hampered us from the start and left us unable to really change things and too many poor individual performances across the team. 

I doubt many players will have have been pleased with their contribution yesterday.

Liam Watson said a few weeks back that league clubs only want to give you kids these days.  I think a promising youngster with pace would be just what we needed.  Someone who just goes at people. Aside from yesterday we pass it well but sometimes we don't give the opposition enough to worry about.  One or two fresh faces are needed to liven things up a bit.

As poor as yesterday was, it's not all doom and gloom just yet.

I agree, I think a young lad who is keen to impress would be a shot in the arm. Someone who hasn't seen his dreams of stardom yet crushed, who can play with a bit of freedom.
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: GB Alty on November 02, 2014, 02:08:58 PM
First 9 games of the season, we scored 12 goals, 7 of them from Damien. In only 1 of those 9 games did we fail to score.

The next 9 league games of the season we have scored 5 goals, 0 from Damien. We have failed to score in 6 of those 9 games. Take away the Halifax game and we have scored 2 goals in 8 games.

This is not a dig at Damien, I think he is the dog's. You just can't rely on one man to score everything.

I can't see things getting any better until something changes.
Thing is we have no one good enough to partner him - anyway if we play 442 we will go down, not strong enough in midfield, even against the likes of Alfreton who were poor
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: eightiesrobin on November 02, 2014, 02:10:35 PM
I agree, plan B required.
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Post by: CB on November 03, 2014, 10:59:06 AM
Anyone know the stats for goals conceded this season from corners - as it seems that we concede every single time.
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Post by: Mick on November 03, 2014, 11:21:37 PM
Anyone know the stats for goals conceded this season from corners - as it seems that we concede every single time.

From every single corner or once per game  :-\

For me when we play against the 'bigger' teams in this division, it is madness to bring every single player back into the 18 yard box - it just allows them to put all their big men in the box and leave the one 4ft 10" winger on the half way line. It also allows them to surround Stuart and restrict his movement....
Title: Re: I've spoken to no one
Post by: Saughall Robin on November 04, 2014, 07:39:40 PM
First 9 games of the season, we scored 12 goals, 7 of them from Damien. In only 1 of those 9 games did we fail to score.

The next 9 league games of the season we have scored 5 goals, 0 from Damien. We have failed to score in 6 of those 9 games. Take away the Halifax game and we have scored 2 goals in 8 games.

This is not a dig at Damien, I think he is the dog's. You just can't rely on one man to score everything.

I can't see things getting any better until something changes.

In other words, the teams we're playing now have worked us out. If DR is stopped we're pretty toothless. It just demonstrates the professionalism of this league over the Conf North. We've been scouted thoroughly by the opposition. Just a point, do we do the same (can we even afford to?)