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Title: £12,500
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 30, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
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Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: ripleym on October 30, 2014, 02:25:00 PM
So is that £12,500 per club simply for playing the fixture and being in the highlights?  And that is on top of the potential £18,000 prize money up for grabs?

Can't sniff at that really.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Brian Flynn on October 30, 2014, 02:31:42 PM
So is that £12,500 per club simply for playing the fixture and being in the highlights?  And that is on top of the potential £18,000 prize money up for grabs?

Can't sniff at that really.

There will be a camera at all 8 games  & goals/key incidents will be shown throughout the BBC programme from 1.55pm.
So if Alty score at Blyth at 2.05pm, it will probably be on TV by 2.10pm.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: markecky on October 30, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
Gutted for those that can't make it, it will be better for some and worse for others.

It now renders last nights row about the fireworks party on the Saturday night and "rolling in as the last rocket goes up" pointless.

The crowd will be smaller so will affect our split so this money will help, although on the positive side it will reduce the number of cross Geordies as Newcastle and Sunderland both play on Sunday.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: ripleym on October 30, 2014, 02:52:44 PM
If the £12.5k is guaranteed TV revenue, will there perhaps be subsidised travel..?
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: RockyRobin on October 30, 2014, 02:59:31 PM
Disgrace.

My train arrives at Newcastle at 11:49 on Saturday.....
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: eightiesrobin on October 30, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Furious. I'd made sure I wouldn't be working that saturday. Seeing almost live highlights makes no difference. The BBC need a bollocking over this. It's not just about money. You can't go changng dates a week before a game for an audience that couldn't give a toss anyway. I'd like to hear the chairman's input on this.

Pretty sure it said that ties would be played between 7th and 10th November all along, so it was always a possibility.

If I were a betting man, I'd wager that the chairman thinks something along the lines of "£12,500 extra for a game we were playing anyway? Yes please!"

The BBC can pretty much do what they want, as they are paying for the privelige. It would be naive to think otherwise. What did you want them to do? Make a commitment to televise the first 8 games drawn, regardless of the teams involved?

It means that 95% of those who were going are still going, and the club gets on National TV. And an extra £12,500. I can't see what the fuss is about.

Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Bob on October 30, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
Indeed, we knew before the draw was even made that it would not necessarily be Saturday at 3pm.  There was always a chance that this would happen. 

And I guarantee that if it was played at 3pm on Saturday then there would be people complaining that we'd been snubbed by the BBC and should have had the 12 grand instead of some other team.

I now can't go so annoyed in that respect but the money will help and it is exposure for the club.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 30, 2014, 03:24:26 PM
Disgrace.

My train arrives at Newcastle at 11:49 on Saturday.....

John ring the TOC and theyay change your tickets for a small fee if you say someone's died or something, they say you can't on advanced fares but do sometimes
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: RockyRobin on October 30, 2014, 03:27:13 PM
It's an east coast rewards ticket so it is not changeable.

I had to book it earlier in the week or not at all so I did know there was a possibility of change, not a complete idiot.

Doesn't stop me being pissed off
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GolfRoader on October 30, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
Furious. I'd made sure I wouldn't be working that saturday. Seeing almost live highlights makes no difference. The BBC need a bollocking over this. It's not just about money. You can't go changng dates a week before a game for an audience that couldn't give a toss anyway. I'd like to hear the chairman's input on this.

Pretty sure it said that ties would be played between 7th and 10th November all along, so it was always a possibility.

If I were a betting man, I'd wager that the chairman thinks something along the lines of "£12,500 extra for a game we were playing anyway? Yes please!"

The BBC can pretty much do what they want, as they are paying for the privelige. It would be naive to think otherwise. What did you want them to do? Make a commitment to televise the first 8 games drawn, regardless of the teams involved?

It means that 95% of those who were going are still going, and the club gets on National TV. And an extra £12,500. I can't see what the fuss is about.



Agree. We all knew it was a possibility and for 12.5k I can put up with it being on Sunday.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: roytonmike on October 30, 2014, 03:29:41 PM
I can see the financial point (though I don't accept that it's the be-all and end-all) - and I accept that he who pays the piper (i.e. the BBC) calls the tune, much as I find that tune distasteful. I'll wait until the coach times are published but would say it's 99.9% certain to be too early a departure for me to make; the earliest I can realistically get to Blyth by public transport will be just after kick-off time, and the cost would be prohibitive, so I'm pretty sure I for one won't be going. This saddens me, but I suppose life must go on ... Moan over.  
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: robininstockport on October 30, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Even though I will now miss my first cup tie in all competitions for about 8 seasons I welcome the money.

I'll be at the replay!
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: markecky on October 30, 2014, 03:32:31 PM
I can see the financial point (though I don't accept that it's the be-all and end-all) - and I accept that he who pays the piper (i.e. the BBC) calls the tune, much as I find that tune distasteful. I'll wait until the coach times are published but would say it's 99.9% certain to be too early a departure for me to make; the earliest I can realistically get to Blyth by public transport will be just after kick-off time, and the cost would be prohibitive, so I'm pretty sure I for one won't be going. This saddens me, but I suppose life must go on ... Moan over.  

Mike, just waiting of the hire cost but I can tell you it will leave the Vine at 08:20 and the Ground at 08:40.  
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: roytonmike on October 30, 2014, 03:36:21 PM
Thanks, Mark - I'm afraid that counts me out.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: ripleym on October 30, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
I can see the financial point (though I don't accept that it's the be-all and end-all) - and I accept that he who pays the piper (i.e. the BBC) calls the tune, much as I find that tune distasteful. I'll wait until the coach times are published but would say it's 99.9% certain to be too early a departure for me to make; the earliest I can realistically get to Blyth by public transport will be just after kick-off time, and the cost would be prohibitive, so I'm pretty sure I for one won't be going. This saddens me, but I suppose life must go on ... Moan over.  

Mike, just waiting of the hire cost but I can tell you it will leave the Vine at 08:20 and the Ground at 08:40.  

Ecky, I think my question about subsidised travel has got lost in this thread somewhere!  Do you know if the £12.5k we are guaranteed will stretch to some or even all of the travel cost?
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 30, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
It's an east coast rewards ticket so it is not changeable.

I had to book it earlier in the week or not at all so I did know there was a possibility of change, not a complete idiot.

Doesn't stop me being pissed off

Can you try and flog it on gumtree or Somthing and get another or will you book a travel tavern and extend your stay?
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Hemel Alty on October 30, 2014, 03:44:03 PM
Isn't this just the BBC taking the piss. Rather than choose just one potentially tasty tie, they are scared that the larger league team will be 3 up after 20 minutes making the rest of the coverage meaningless and folk will turn off. Meanwhile a whole host of genuine non league supporters are inconvenienced - the very people the early rounds of the cup are supposed to cater to. Wasn't going anyway but for the likes of Rocky, gutting.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: RockyRobin on October 30, 2014, 03:47:13 PM
It's an east coast rewards ticket so it is not changeable.

I had to book it earlier in the week or not at all so I did know there was a possibility of change, not a complete idiot.

Doesn't stop me being pissed off

Can you try and flog it on gumtree or Somthing and get another or will you book a travel tavern and extend your stay?

One option is staying up North but leaving home at 6:45am Sat and returning at 10pm on Sunday has political ramifications......
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: eightiesrobin on October 30, 2014, 03:53:51 PM
Isn't this just the BBC taking the piss. Rather than choose just one potentially tasty tie, they are scared that the larger league team will be 3 up after 20 minutes making the rest of the coverage meaningless and folk will turn off. Meanwhile a whole host of genuine non league supporters are inconvenienced - the very people the early rounds of the cup are supposed to cater to. Wasn't going anyway but for the likes of Rocky, gutting.

Two months ago, I booked a non-returnable one night stay at the Eastleigh travelodge for the game on 4th January. All I can say is, if we get through to the 3rd round of the FA Cup and the game at Eastleigh is called off, I expect full compensation (£29 plus out-of-pocket expenses) and an unreserved apology from the BBC, the FA, Lee Sinnott, and Stubblemelt.

Disgrace.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GolfRoader on October 30, 2014, 03:57:58 PM
Disgrace.

My train arrives at Newcastle at 11:49 on Saturday.....

How much was your ticket, Rocky?
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: markecky on October 30, 2014, 04:00:21 PM
I can see the financial point (though I don't accept that it's the be-all and end-all) - and I accept that he who pays the piper (i.e. the BBC) calls the tune, much as I find that tune distasteful. I'll wait until the coach times are published but would say it's 99.9% certain to be too early a departure for me to make; the earliest I can realistically get to Blyth by public transport will be just after kick-off time, and the cost would be prohibitive, so I'm pretty sure I for one won't be going. This saddens me, but I suppose life must go on ... Moan over.  

Mike, just waiting of the hire cost but I can tell you it will leave the Vine at 08:20 and the Ground at 08:40.  

Ecky, I think my question about subsidised travel has got lost in this thread somewhere!  Do you know if the £12.5k we are guaranteed will stretch to some or even all of the travel cost?

Not for me to answer that one mate.

My personal opinion would be that it would be better spent elsewhere.

Of course if it was offered then it would be welcomed although it would be more beneficial to do it for a Saturday league game where we may have struggled to get a coach and entice people with cheaper fares.  We will get a decent coach turnout due to the occasion on Sunday.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: RockyRobin on October 30, 2014, 04:07:45 PM
Disgrace.

My train arrives at Newcastle at 11:49 on Saturday.....

How much was your ticket, Rocky?

It was free but in effect it will now cost me £62 to re-book and double the travel costs to Newcastle to £125.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Hale Alty on October 30, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
Not so furious now. I've swapped the days.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Jenga on October 30, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
I wouldnt have been able to make it on the Saturday and neither can I make it on the Sunday. I am bloody furious this game has not been changed to a different weekend. The BBC should not be allowed to keep all dates as originally set.

Gutted.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 04:34:28 PM
I am so angry  about this steaming in fact

I could not go on Saturday as I have tegan but now I can go I have just sent greg dyke an email fuming


Oh hang on no I can go I am over the bloody moon I have recalled the email to greg and emailed peter Capaldi 

Amazing news :)
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Jenga on October 30, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
I am so angry  about this steaming in fact

I could not go on Saturday as I have tegan but now I can go I have just sent greg dyke an email fuming


Oh hang on no I can go I am over the bloody moon I have recalled the email to greg and emailed peter Capaldi 

Amazing news :)

Stupid pointless post.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Baldrick on October 30, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
This must be a driving game. The nearest station is 15 miles away from the ground. More evidence that teams who play in green should automatically be relegated to the Haribo Mormon league division seven.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
I wouldnt have been able to make it on the Saturday and neither can I make it on the Sunday. I am bloody furious this game has not been changed to a different weekend. The BBC should not be allowed to keep all dates as originally set.

Gutted.
truly pathetic can't believe I am wasting 1kb of data replying to it
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Nasha on October 30, 2014, 06:23:33 PM
Delighted. I would had been there Saturday or Sunday, but have invites to a couple of events on the Saturday,so can make them now.

Just should we win, I need a home draw for 2nd round.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Bob on October 30, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
Isn't this just the BBC taking the piss. Rather than choose just one potentially tasty tie, they are scared that the larger league team will be 3 up after 20 minutes making the rest of the coverage meaningless and folk will turn off. Meanwhile a whole host of genuine non league supporters are inconvenienced - the very people the early rounds of the cup are supposed to cater to. Wasn't going anyway but for the likes of Rocky, gutting.

What makes the FA Cup special to clubs at this level is that it gives them the opportunity to get fame and money that isn't normally there.

Here we are getting national tv coverage, and a fair chunk of money to go with it

You could also argue that they are spreading the coverage and money around more which is pretty good in my view.

Frustrating for those who now can't make it of course.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: markecky on October 30, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
Delighted. I would had been there Saturday or Sunday, but have invites to a couple of events on the Saturday,so can make them now.

Just should we win, I need a home draw for 2nd round.

Look at Nasha Palmer-Tomkinson with his invites to a couple of events, life is such a whirl!  ;)
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: robins1978 on October 30, 2014, 07:01:58 PM
Delighted. I would had been there Saturday or Sunday, but have invites to a couple of events on the Saturday,so can make them now.

Just should we win, I need a home draw for 2nd round.

Look at Nasha Palmer-Tomkinson with his invites to a couple of events, life is such a whirl!  ;)
Home in the 2nd round Nasha - don't be silly !!
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 07:10:46 PM
The £12.5k we get from TV will be lost against the reduced gate receipts we would have got anyway - with a considerably bigger crowd on the Saturday

I think the problem is that the 1st round follows the 4th qual to quickly, to put it in perspective the second round isn't until 6th December
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 30, 2014, 07:21:15 PM
The £12.5k we get from TV will be lost against the reduced gate receipts we would have got anyway - with a considerably bigger crowd on the Saturday. I think the problem is that the 1st round follows the 4th qual to quickly, to put it in perspective the second round isn't until 6th December
Is it being so cheerful that keeps you going?  :)
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: RockyRobin on October 30, 2014, 07:34:18 PM
The £12.5k we get from TV will be lost against the reduced gate receipts we would have got anyway - with a considerably bigger crowd on the Saturday

I think the problem is that the 1st round follows the 4th qual to quickly, to put it in perspective the second round isn't until 6th December

Agreed, all advance fares gone.

Judging by the jollity on here many others can just chuck money at the problem  ;)
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 30, 2014, 07:35:01 PM
The £12.5k we get from TV will be lost against the reduced gate receipts we would have got anyway - with a considerably bigger crowd on the Saturday

I think the problem is that the 1st round follows the 4th qual to quickly, to put it in perspective the second round isn't until 6th December

I don't agree about the loss of gate income versus prize money, but I do agree that the rounds are too close together
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Bob on October 30, 2014, 07:38:13 PM
The £12.5k we get from TV will be lost against the reduced gate receipts we would have got anyway - with a considerably bigger crowd on the Saturday

I think the problem is that the 1st round follows the 4th qual to quickly, to put it in perspective the second round isn't until 6th December

I agree that the crowd will be lower. How much lower do you think it might be?

Also, are first round replays about 10 days later as opposed to 3 days in the qualifiers? That might partly explain the bigger gap.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
About 1,500 might have been 3,000 on the Saturday
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Bob on October 30, 2014, 07:46:02 PM
If it is 1500 less then it won't wipe out the £12500 but certainly a big chunk of it. Blyth will lose more because income from.the bar, food and programmes will be less and they would keep all that.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 08:13:21 PM
If it is 1500 less then it won't wipe out the £12500 but certainly a big chunk of it. Blyth will lose more because income from.the bar, food and programmes will be less and they would keep all that.
to be fair you can't lose what you've never had
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: robininstockport on October 30, 2014, 08:14:45 PM
Financialy its better for both clubs. Game atmosphere its worse for both clubs. The latter should suit the away team
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 08:29:32 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Darren on October 30, 2014, 08:37:12 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment

The gate is only split after all expensives have been covered so could be even lower
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 08:51:47 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment

The gate is only split after all expensives have been covered so could be even lower
Good point forgot about that
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
I would expect the admission price to be more than £10
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 09:10:22 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
I would expect the admission price to be more than £10
just did a rough estimation it's all guess work any way as none of us have a crystal ball sadly
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Jenga on October 30, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Whatever the calculations, i expect having goals on BBC2 will not affect the crowd much, the £12,500 which ever you look at it is a bonus.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 09:13:31 PM
Whatever the calculations, i expect having goals on BBC2 will not affect the crowd much, the £12,500 which ever you look at it is a bonus.
think it's the floating fans that may have come on Saturday that will be lost but that will play in our favour if we are not outnumbered as much
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 09:18:05 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
I would expect the admission price to be more than £10
just did a rough estimation it's all guess work any way as none of us have a crystal ball sadly
No, but what effects the crowd is Newcastle and Sunderland. Neither were playing on the Saturday

You need to understand how much those two dominate in that region

Crowd will be down 50% on the Sunday - of course that may well work in our favour
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Toff Apple on October 30, 2014, 09:23:36 PM
Helps the extra days rest after lincoln, telford on the tuesday looks rough though
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 09:24:24 PM
Helps the extra days rest after lincoln, telford on the tuesday looks rough though
Agreed
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 30, 2014, 09:30:27 PM
Another game moved to sunday

The streets of criccieth and beddgelert will be empty

http://www.wokingfc.co.uk/news/article/4724/fa-cup-live-on-s4c-on-sunday-9th-november/
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: wayno on October 30, 2014, 09:34:52 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
I would expect the admission price to be more than £10
just did a rough estimation it's all guess work any way as none of us have a crystal ball sadly
No, but what effects the crowd is Newcastle and Sunderland. Neither were playing on the Saturday

You need to understand how much those two dominate in that region

Crowd will be down 50% on the Sunday - of course that may well work in our favour
as per my response above this one I agree mr uday however I feel that the positives outweigh the negatives financially,  less home fans and from a publicty perspective and i can go of course :)
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Howay Blyth on October 30, 2014, 10:07:26 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
I would expect the admission price to be more than £10

Just to let you's know there's no change in admission for the game, it'll still be £10 for adults and £5 for concessions and its an extra £1 if you want to enter the main stand. It's also pay on the gate.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: B. 4D on October 30, 2014, 10:20:30 PM
If there was 1,500 less at 10 quid a head loss would be 15k or 7.5k each so money wise it's a great result also great exposure for the club if we win

Also we can never say for sure how many would have arrived can't see it having much of an effect on the away attendance to any detriment
I would expect the admission price to be more than £10

Just to let you's know there's no change in admission for the game, it'll still be £10 for adults and £5 for concessions and its an extra £1 if you want to enter the main stand. It's also pay on the gate.
.

Thanks for that.
Being very selfish, I can now go.
Working on a Saturday morning made it impossible.
If the crowd is down, I'm positive both clubs will be better off with the £12,500.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Baldrick on October 30, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
I think some of you are badly overestimating the attendance. Blyths highest attendance this season was 652 against Darlington, i'm guessing a considerable amount of them were Darlington fans. I will be surprised if more than 700 turn up for this.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
I think some of you are badly overestimating the attendance. Blyths highest attendance this season was 652 against Darlington, i'm guessing a considerable amount of them were Darlington fans. I will be surprised if more than 700 turn up for this.
serious posts only please
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: bighairedmike on October 30, 2014, 10:56:02 PM
I think some of you are badly overestimating the attendance. Blyths highest attendance this season was 652 against Darlington, i'm guessing a considerable amount of them were Darlington fans. I will be surprised if more than 700 turn up for this.
serious posts only please

Yes because 3,000 is serious. We're Altrincham, not Sheffield United. The whole town won't turn out, just as they didn't last time we played them...
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 11:05:51 PM
I think some of you are badly overestimating the attendance. Blyths highest attendance this season was 652 against Darlington, i'm guessing a considerable amount of them were Darlington fans. I will be surprised if more than 700 turn up for this.
serious posts only please

Yes because 3,000 is serious. We're Altrincham, not Sheffield United. The whole town won't turn out, just as they didn't last time we played them...
Blyth always get good turn out in the FA cup, please check things out before posting

700 is not a serious suggestion -
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 30, 2014, 11:11:40 PM
I think some of you are badly overestimating the attendance. Blyths highest attendance this season was 652 against Darlington, i'm guessing a considerable amount of them were Darlington fans. I will be surprised if more than 700 turn up for this.
serious posts only please

Yes because 3,000 is serious. We're Altrincham, not Sheffield United. The whole town won't turn out, just as they didn't last time we played them...
Blyth always get good turn out in the FA cup, please check things out before posting

700 is not a serious suggestion -

If the crowd is anything less than 1000 I will be astonished. I think 1500-2000 at a guess. Who'd have thought we'd get 4500 for the play off final or take 650 to Stockport last season? Blyth can draw numbers for the big occasion and this is a big occasion.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 11:22:34 PM
Fully agree Sarf London

Sometimes I think people just like to disagree with me for the sake of it

I don't think in all the time that I have been alive have I ever seen an FA cup 1st round game with a crowd as low as 700

But we will see at Blyth, remember we not Sheffield United????
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: bighairedmike on October 30, 2014, 11:43:25 PM
Fully agree Sarf London

Sometimes I think people just like to disagree with me for the sake of it

I don't think in all the time that I have been alive have I ever seen an FA cup 1st round game with a crowd as low as 700

But we will see at Blyth, remember we not Sheffield United????

I never said we'd see a crowd of 700. I didn't give any guess as to what it would be, but it sure as he'll wouldn't be 3,000.

For what it's with I reckon it'll be about 1450 with about 300 or so Alty.
Title: Re: £12,500
Post by: GB Alty on October 30, 2014, 11:48:11 PM
Fully agree Sarf London

Sometimes I think people just like to disagree with me for the sake of it

I don't think in all the time that I have been alive have I ever seen an FA cup 1st round game with a crowd as low as 700

But we will see at Blyth, remember we not Sheffield United????

I never said we'd see a crowd of 700. I didn't give any guess as to what it would be, but it sure as he'll wouldn't be 3,000.

For what it's with I reckon it'll be about 1450 with about 300 or so Alty.
well I said 1,500 so what's your point? Other than trying to create a pointless argument
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Post by: bighairedmike on October 31, 2014, 02:40:01 AM
Fully agree Sarf London

Sometimes I think people just like to disagree with me for the sake of it

I don't think in all the time that I have been alive have I ever seen an FA cup 1st round game with a crowd as low as 700

But we will see at Blyth, remember we not Sheffield United????

I never said we'd see a crowd of 700. I didn't give any guess as to what it would be, but it sure as he'll wouldn't be 3,000.

For what it's with I reckon it'll be about 1450 with about 300 or so Alty.
well I said 1,500 so what's your point? Other than trying to create a pointless argument

I believe it would have been more or less the same if the game was on a Saturday. Possibly 200 more on a Saturday. My point is 3000 is a ridiculous suggestion.

Just remember the points you want to Jamie, that's all a good pointless argument needs isn't it?!
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Post by: GB Alty on October 31, 2014, 02:11:42 PM
Fully agree Sarf London

Sometimes I think people just like to disagree with me for the sake of it

I don't think in all the time that I have been alive have I ever seen an FA cup 1st round game with a crowd as low as 700

But we will see at Blyth, remember we not Sheffield United????

I never said we'd see a crowd of 700. I didn't give any guess as to what it would be, but it sure as he'll wouldn't be 3,000.

For what it's with I reckon it'll be about 1450 with about 300 or so Alty.
well I said 1,500 so what's your point? Other than trying to create a pointless argument

I believe it would have been more or less the same if the game was on a Saturday. Possibly 200 more on a Saturday. My point is 3000 is a ridiculous suggestion.

Just remember the points you want to Jamie, that's all a good pointless argument needs isn't it?!
Last time Blyth were at home in the 1st round was 2011 - the crowd was 2,763 against a conference club - check your history Warren before saying my posts are ridiculous
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Post by: SW on October 31, 2014, 02:47:52 PM




 
[/quote]Last time Blyth were at home in the 1st round was 2011 - the crowd was 2,763 against a conference club - check your history Warren before saying my posts are ridiculous
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Against Gateshead! I think the date, the semi live Tv arrangements and Newcastle playing the same day, probably on TV will hit the gate, I'd still expect 1500+ though.
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 31, 2014, 03:15:56 PM
Massive gateshead following that day, although jamie is correct about blyth turning out for the fa cup, I personally think the sunday works in our favour, let's hope the good 200 that went to barwell and more get up to blyth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cCsz3-vMY
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Post by: Jimmy on October 31, 2014, 04:37:03 PM
Being on Sunday will knock a big chunk of the crowd with Newcastle and Sunderland playing however not as much as we gain from Being on tv I think it's a dull day out when we were to play them Saturday same as Sunday but more importantly it's a game we should win the draw has been kind
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Post by: thegazelle on October 31, 2014, 09:36:17 PM
Massive gateshead following that day, although jamie is correct about blyth turning out for the fa cup, I personally think the sunday works in our favour, let's hope the good 200 that went to barwell and more get up to blyth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cCsz3-vMY

"Non leagues most famous cup fighters " !!! my considerable feckin arse
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Post by: viennaalty on October 31, 2014, 10:33:52 PM
Just going back to the original link to the twitter message and the reference to "live overseas" coverage...does anybody have any more information on this? Is there a possibility of a live feed directly from the game that can be picked up online? Just seems strange that anywhere outside of the UK is going to be watching the FA cup 1st round.
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Post by: Hamilton on October 31, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
Massive gateshead following that day, although jamie is correct about blyth turning out for the fa cup, I personally think the sunday works in our favour, let's hope the good 200 that went to barwell and more get up to blyth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cCsz3-vMY

"Non leagues most famous cup fighters " !!! my considerable feckin arse

Why do we never seem to get the recognition of being one of the most famous non league cup fighters? I've noticed its always the Herefords, Suttons and Blyth Spartans of this world who get acknowledged on, for instance, the BBC.
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Post by: distancetraveller on October 31, 2014, 11:03:33 PM
Massive gateshead following that day, although jamie is correct about blyth turning out for the fa cup, I personally think the sunday works in our favour, let's hope the good 200 that went to barwell and more get up to blyth
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cCsz3-vMY
"Non leagues most famous cup fighters " !!! my considerable feckin arse
Why do we never seem to get the recognition of being one of the most famous non league cup fighters? I've noticed its always the Herefords, Suttons and Blyth Spartans of this world who get acknowledged on, for instance, the BBC.
My sentiments exactly Hammy. The win over Birmingham back in the 80s is never mentioned
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Post by: eightiesrobin on October 31, 2014, 11:25:16 PM
To be fair, it was nearly 29 years ago. We're not the only team whose FA Cup record is forgotten. Telford were as successful, certainly in the 1980s. Yeovil too, though they are forgotten because they are not a non-league club now.
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Post by: eightiesrobin on October 31, 2014, 11:29:44 PM
And, the win at Birmingham preceded the age where everything is preserved for posterity. I would love to see the highlights, but apart from some very grainy footage of the goals on You tube, I don't believe they exist. 
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Post by: Alty Dave on October 31, 2014, 11:51:24 PM
I have the whole game on vhs tape (Birmingham v Alty).
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Post by: eightiesrobin on October 31, 2014, 11:58:16 PM
Ooooh, ever fancied converting it to DVD?

I remember the goals, someone scolding me for premature celebrations, and the police escorting us back to the coach, but no more. I would love to see it .
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Post by: Baldrick on November 01, 2014, 12:05:10 AM
Just going back to the original link to the twitter message and the reference to "live overseas" coverage...does anybody have any more information on this? Is there a possibility of a live feed directly from the game that can be picked up online? Just seems strange that anywhere outside of the UK is going to be watching the FA cup 1st round.

League rules won't allow games to be shown live in Britain unless someone pays them (Television fee). Rangers have their own television channel showing every game live if you live outside Britain or after midnight if you live in Britain.
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Post by: Cornerflag on November 01, 2014, 12:52:14 AM
The Birmingham game is available from the club shop on DVD. You may have to order it.
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Post by: Bob on November 01, 2014, 03:35:34 AM
Massive gateshead following that day, although jamie is correct about blyth turning out for the fa cup, I personally think the sunday works in our favour, let's hope the good 200 that went to barwell and more get up to blyth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cCsz3-vMY

"Non leagues most famous cup fighters " !!! my considerable feckin arse

Why do we never seem to get the recognition of being one of the most famous non league cup fighters? I've noticed its always the Herefords, Suttons and Blyth Spartans of this world who get acknowledged on, for instance, the BBC.

To be fair, we have had plenty of recognition about this over the years.  Even on that North West Tonight feature on Monday, our giant killing record was referred to.  

Since the whole TV coverage of the FA Cup was changed in the late 80s, we've had the following:

Proper BBC highlights for Halifax, Chester, Wigan (also a full highlights programme on Sky), Darlington and Millwall
Live satellite coverage for Huddersfield and Burton.

We also would have had the Crewe game in 1995 shown on Match of the Day had it not been rescheduled because of Neil Lennon's international call up.

I think that is good going.  Given that in only one of those seasons we actually got to the third round, I would like to know if another non-league club has had as much consistent TV coverage as us in the FA Cup over that time.  I daresay one of the reasons we were picked for a lot of those games was because of our past reputation.  

Fair point about Birmingham but then it isn't recorded for posterity in the way that Hereford and Sutton was.  As for Blyth, they do have a good reputation to be fair.  I agree with the poster about Telford.  They had a tremendous run in the mid 80s but that seems to be completely forgotten.

I don't think we've been ignored at all.  If the media recognition hasn't been there, how did we get all that FA Cup footage for the DVD a few years back? 
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Post by: Bath Alty on November 01, 2014, 10:14:25 AM
I don't think anyone is moaning about the coverage at the time, it's the recognition for past achievements that's lacking and that's because Hereford's one moment of glory makes a great clip that you don't have to explain the context for and it can say "giant killer"  in 2 or 3 seconds - a grainy clip of an own goal doesn't quite do it in the same way!

Similar with Sutton - they had decent coverage and a bright sunny afternoon, it just makes better telly in a history of the FA cup clip reel and so they get remembered
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Post by: GB Alty on November 01, 2014, 10:18:48 AM
I don't think anyone is moaning about the coverage at the time, it's the recognition for past achievements that's lacking and that's because Hereford's one moment of glory makes a great clip that you don't have to explain the context for and it can say "giant killer"  in 2 or 3 seconds - a grainy clip of an own goal doesn't quite do it in the same way!

Similar with Sutton - they had decent coverage and a bright sunny afternoon, it just makes better telly in a history of the FA cup clip reel and so they get remembered
talk about a chip on shoulder!!!

Everyone I meet, Birmingham is the first thing they say
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Post by: arnald on November 01, 2014, 10:48:58 AM
And who was in goal for Birmingham that day?
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Post by: RockyRobin on November 01, 2014, 11:17:30 AM
And who was in goal for Birmingham that day?

A certain David Seaman who later in his career let in another dubious goal between his legs in '96 versus the Netherlands
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Post by: Jezza on November 01, 2014, 11:53:56 AM
I think overall we will benefit financially and possibly there will be a smaller home (floating) following which will also benefit us.

More important than how much we may lose from the sat-sun split is winning the frinking thing and getting the prize money and a money spinning 2nd round tie (or an easy tie that sees us through to old Trafford in the 3rd) which makes all semantics redundant really....
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Post by: Nom de plume on November 01, 2014, 01:21:40 PM
I don't think anyone is moaning about the coverage at the time, it's the recognition for past achievements that's lacking and that's because Hereford's one moment of glory makes a great clip that you don't have to explain the context for and it can say "giant killer"  in 2 or 3 seconds - a grainy clip of an own goal doesn't quite do it in the same way!

Similar with Sutton - they had decent coverage and a bright sunny afternoon, it just makes better telly in a history of the FA cup clip reel and so they get remembered
talk about a chip on shoulder!!!

Everyone I meet, Birmingham is the first thing they say
Another well-thought-out and reasoned observation that Uday has blessed with a childish put-down. If English isn't your first language I'll be happy to explain.....
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Post by: Hale Alty on November 01, 2014, 07:23:38 PM
Blyth won 2-0 today at Farsley in the Trophy.