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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on August 13, 2014, 09:56:19 AM
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Rovers are under big pressure to get off the mark win wise, we are still looking for our first point. As bookies title favourites and sheer weight of expectation from a massive fan base, they need results against us and Telford in their next two fixtures
Back to basics for me. Get the strongest team out and let them worry about us and themselves
.............................Coburn
Cavannagh.....Havern....Leather...Griffin
Crowther.....Moult...Williams......Clee
..................Reeves...Gillespie
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..........................Coburn.................................
.............Leather....Havern...Marshall/Williams...........
Richman........................^...........................Clee
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....!.......Moult........Cavannagh........Crowther.....!....
V V
.....................Reeves..........Gillespie...................
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Reminds me a little of the stockport fixture last year, pressure is on them.
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If densmore is injured and griffin looking shaky - going 3 at the back isn't such a bad idea - Richman and Clee can provide a bit if energy and cover on the wings, whilst cavannagh looks happy to sit deep - breaking up play and starting couter attacks.
Lawrie in the hole behind the strikers. Looked lively last night and could be a threat played more centrally.
Coburn
Havern. Leather. Marshall
Richman. Cavannagh Williams. . Clee
Lawrie
Gillespie. Reeves.
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I wouldn't say Bristol Rovers have a massive fan base. They are not even the biggest club in their own city.
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Neither are Everton Manchester city or athletico Madrid
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Or Northwich come to that ;)
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Northwich aren't even the biggest club in Flixton.
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Neither are Everton Manchester city or athletico Madrid
or Port Vale
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Or Glasgow rangers.
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or Irvine Victoria!
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keeper
leather Havern Marshall
Richman cavavnagh moult clee
Lawrie
gillespie Reeves
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Or Glasgow rangers.
Have to disagree with that one
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How many are they bringing?
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They had 660 at barnet on Tuesday
Altrincham 2
Reeves
Gillespie
Bristol Rovers 1
Att 1,702
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Rovers fans seem quite taken with our match posters http://www.gaschat.co.uk/thread/775/brilliant-altrincham-rovers-match-poster (http://www.gaschat.co.uk/thread/775/brilliant-altrincham-rovers-match-poster)
I suspect they won't be so jolly after the game when the reality of the conference finally sinks in after a 1-2 defeat.
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Or Glasgow rangers.
Have to disagree with that one
If you're talking worldwide 'fanbase' and appeal Celtic are definitely the bigger club.
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Imagine what they would think of the OFFICIAL Alty ones ????
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Going to be hard point wouldn't be to bad life should get easier with southport Nuneaton dartford and alfreton coming soon
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Rovers fans seem quite taken with our match posters http://www.gaschat.co.uk/thread/775/brilliant-altrincham-rovers-match-poster (http://www.gaschat.co.uk/thread/775/brilliant-altrincham-rovers-match-poster)
I suspect they won't be so jolly after the game when the reality of the conference finally sinks in after a 1-2 defeat.
They must have good taste then.
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Or Glasgow rangers.
Have to disagree with that one
If you're talking worldwide 'fanbase' and appeal Celtic are definitely the bigger club.
By a country mile
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Have we ever played the Gasheads before?
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IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE MATCH COMMENTARY?
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Sorry Harold - didn't see you there. It was hopeless first half but no problems in the second
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it did improve in the second thank god,it was driving me potty
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A good first win we are off and running now well done boys
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A great result and from what we could tell on Radio Robins sounded a good performance. Gillespie and Cav in particular seem just what we needed, good to get Scot back too.
Well done all! ;D
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Brilliant win, well done lads. Special mention for Marshall too, thought he was outstanding.
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Crowther gave a good performance after coming on. What was Clee's booking for? Reeves also booked after Perry was kicked on the ground ????
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Ross Joyce - need we say more?
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Assume Clee was booked for timewasting as he took a long time to go off after being subbed.
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Ref was spot on with everything today.
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Clee was presumably booked for time wasting, as was Reeves. I thought the ref had a decent game.
More importantly we played well and deserved the win.
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Ref was spot on with everything today.
From where I was stood it looked like he missed a clear push in the back in the build up to their goal.
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Well done the lads! Excellent 3 points and we're off and running.
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Today was a huge win southport is a huge game on Saturday as well and we can double our tally if we play well
Like we did today
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Top result and a cracking atmosphere in the corner for the second half.
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Deco a push for there goal , think ref had OK 1st half , some odd bookings 2nd half , Rover's won't be going up fast , we played em off the park well done lads .
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Well, that was much better wasn't it? Will the imposter calling himself Marshall today, please step forward. He was absolutely brilliant and long may it continue! It was great to have Scott back and to have a bloody proper defender playing at full back. I felt that the game was won and lost in the way both Reevsey and Gillespie ran their two centre halves completely ragged. To be fair, they'll never have an easier day, as I'm not sure their number 6 was even a footballer, but has anyone ever seen Reevsey work so hard in a football match before? My only negative today, and it is a small one, is that Nicky seemed to run out of steam by the hour mark and wasn't replaced soon enough - I think a better team would have exploited that, but on the whole that was a very enjoyable game of football today - WELL DONE ALTY!!!
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I thought at the time that in the second half at Aldershot Marshall was excellent and it sounds like he was again today, long may it continue
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Ross Joyce - need we say more?
To be fair he got all the bookings right..........including those of Reeves (standing on the ball?) and Clee (timewasting after being subbed?).............another surprise today considering it was our old friend Mr Joyce
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Tom Marshall class today thought he shouldev left in the summer hope he proves me wrong great start
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Marshall was excellent today and earned that mom award but I would also say that adam griffin was also top notch today and did anyone else notice once richman was moved into centre mid they didn't really threaten after that , cav again immense at what he does and reeves and gill top class
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Don't want to single anyone out today, they all worked their tripe off. It was a superb battling team performance and they must be buzzing tonight.
Got to have a word for Marshall though who was superb but also Cavanagh who was cool as a cucumber all the way through. Could be one of our most influential signings of recent years with his experience, he will drag us through games.
Nice week off playing now, 2 sessions to work on the little things and then pick it up again at Southport.
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Don't want to single anyone out today, they all worked their tripe off. It was a superb battling team performance and they must be buzzing tonight. Got to have a word for Marshall though who was superb but also Cavanagh who was cool as a cucumber all the way through. Could be one of our most influential signings of recent years with his experience, he will drag us through games. Nice week off playing now, 2 sessions to work on the little things and then pick it up again at Southport.
The new Val Owen?
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I thought Mr Joyce had a decent game today.
However, he does have a uncanny knack of making himself noticed.
That's the nearest your getting to a "well done" off me fella ;)
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Yes. I think the main thing he's got to remember is that it's not all about him - he's there to let things flow and be relatively invisible.
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I thought all the team were up for it today.
Well done boys.
You all deserve the MOTM award :)
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Don't want to single anyone out today, they all worked their tripe off. It was a superb battling team performance and they must be buzzing tonight. Got to have a word for Marshall though who was superb but also Cavanagh who was cool as a cucumber all the way through. Could be one of our most influential signings of recent years with his experience, he will drag us through games. Nice week off playing now, 2 sessions to work on the little things and then pick it up again at Southport.
The new Val Owen?
I can give no higher praise than to say......the new Mick Carmody.
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Altrincham
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First viewing of the season...
I absolutely loved that today. The Conference is just totally a different thing. Where we belong isn't it. Those 3 pts were better than anything we got in the Conference North we got in the past 3 seasons.
Thought we were excellent today, we've definitely got the players for this league if they can just learn and get up to speed sharpish (S Williams a prime example) even if we need perhaps a couple more. I hope the squad realise we're prepared to give them some leeway and time on that, well we're not really they've got to get to grips with it right now but just to say we appreciate it and know what's what.
Players wise:
Marshall played well, although with the proviso against Rovers' long ball approach most of what he had to do was just win headers. He did make a couple of fantastic last ditch tackles as well just when I thought he was f**ked as did Havern (one just outside the area was vital).
Scott Leather was a bit sluggish but still good enough. The Rovers forum remarked on how an Alty player had to miss a game due to work commitments. What they don't realise is he'd walk into any back 4 (in any position) in this league...particularly theirs...
Griffin - the jury seems to be out on this lad and that includes me but I'm coming round to the idea that maybe he's just one of those players who looks shaky even when he isn't. He had an 8 out of 10 game today without looking convincing (ok, 7) and he did well given they were trying to give him the Shearer/Parker treatment on crosses for an hour.
Cavanagh - this bloke's a class act, outstanding. Breaks the game up and comfy in possession. Exactly what we need, looked every inch a league 2 promotion winning captain from last year. How important he could be.
S Williams - looks a good player, just needs to adapt to this level and some of his team mates around him (and their quickness of thought)
There won't be a fitter full or part time footballer in this league than Simon Richman and I thought his 'legs' for us in central midfield in the last 20 minutes were vital. An excellent display.
Gillespie, not quite as good as Walshaw but suits Reeves much better. Likes to shoot from outside the box but all his efforts were reasonable, theirs were shocking.
Reevesy - Man of the match by a mile, sensational, looks like he's had a new lease of life. His best game in an Alty shirt. A Papin-esque finish that for all his 120+ goals you don't always associate with him.
Kyle Perry - did a good job after a frankly awful first 5 minutes. Has a role to play but needs to match the sheer effort and closing down of Reeves and Gillespie even if it'snot his bag.
Lively cameo from Crowther. I think LS will play him on the rw opposite Nicky Clee when we first play a part time team, at which point we'll murder them. Lawrie did ok too.
I think we've got more than enough to beat the middle third teams like them at home. But we must make sure we do. We deserved that today.
As for Bristol Rovers, well there's enough of their fans having post mortems anyway so I wouldn't comment as such, we're just a part time team that's beaten probably not the best team they've ever had so there's no need to start gloating or pontificating about life in non league, however....
Aside from the appalling defensive display and the precarious passing about from the back which always ended up in a hoof anyway....they need to shape up. They looked absolutely startled whenever we harried them off the ball (er, we are allowed to). You can't lapse into that attitude no matter where you go in this league. Adapt to it or spend a long angry time here. they had whatever fans in the away end and easily 150+ in the main stand who desperately deserve better (I've no idea what's going on their but they need to be aware of Stockport).
One thing worth commenting on is their manager's haraunging of the officials to get Clee booked for timewasting coming off from the furthest part of the pitch. Listen Darrell Clarke you dickhead, you're not at Salisbury now with your never never budget, it won't take long for Bristol to realise that you don't have genuine conference managerial ability, just the inflated cv that ian bogie had at a well funded Gateshead before he took over County. Your idea of professionalism was to get Clee booked, look at yourself you f**king pillock, you presided over the most shambolic defensive display I've seen for years, sent out an anonymous midfield, which to be fair was because the ball was lumped over their heads in your abysmal long ball pathetic tactics. You should od some hard work instead of the easy route of sh*thouse tactics. The chop is coming for you in November. X
What must worry them is this was no bunch of thugs in a ramshackle ground with a tight bobbly sloping pitch, we passed them off the park today and deserved the win.
Ok, that was a lot of comment but it's mostly by the bye. What we need to focus on is that 90+ minutes of concentration and belief at his level will see us through. Well done LS/NT and the lads.
p.s well done Stu on your 1,456,372th appearance or whatever the f**k it was, you're a ledge :-* :-* :-*
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Brilliant post as always Ballers, but if Wally is a better footballer than Gillespie I'll eat my hat!!! Gillespie's turn of movement is so quick it's frightening. He is clearly accustomed to playing at this level and I feel much happier with him in the team. I do agree that he and Reevsey are more compatible and I think this is probably because Gillespie is not as greedy as Wally and can read Reevsey's game better.
It's a good debate to be had though.
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Gillespie appears ro be a better all round player than wally who is the better striker
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Thanks for doing that Ballers, saved me a lot of typing.
I think we have even more to come yet from the new signings which is very exciting. Gillespie and Cavanagh will get match fitter and Williams and Crowther will setlle in to the style we try and play with each game as well.
Gillespies fast feet and ability to change direction is a joy to watch.
The league remains tough, it almost seems odd to say that we won't play teams as poor as them every week, but to say that feels like I am taking something away from our lads.
Third game in a week against 3 full time sides and we finished the stronger. That'll do me.
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Stevie g will score goals , maybe not as many as wally , but he compliments reeves better , not as greedy and two footed , overall we looked well balanced and deserved to win , still don't think Perry good enough .
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Good post as ever Ballers.
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Back to the ref, fair play on not awarding the pen to them and booking the player who dived
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Not seen one Alty fan gloat at yesterday's result, enjoy it etc and move on. To be fair to the ref I forgot it was him, as in Ross Joyce, Clee took the piss lets not beat around the bush, granted he was in the corner but come on haha. Good spot to book their lad for diving as well. Incidentally did anyone else notice a foul in the build up to Rovers goal?
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Very good all round performance. As has been mentioned, Marshall and Griffin did very well, but Cavanagh is a class above. Thought we looked better when Richman was in the middle.
It would appear that like Peter Parker and Spiderman that Crowther and Clee are in fact the same person and we wont see them both on the pitch at the same time.
Gillespie is much better footballer than Walshaw. Once he nets his first goal I think his link up play will be better.
As for Bristol, decent fans who deserve much better than a mid conference south side.
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First viewing of the season...
I absolutely loved that today. The Conference is just totally a different thing. Where we belong isn't it. Those 3 pts were better than anything we got in the Conference North we got in the past 3 seasons.
Thought we were excellent today, we've definitely got the players for this league if they can just learn and get up to speed sharpish (S Williams a prime example) even if we need perhaps a couple more. I hope the squad realise we're prepared to give them some leeway and time on that, well we're not really they've got to get to grips with it right now but just to say we appreciate it and know what's what.
Players wise:
Marshall played well, although with the proviso against Rovers' long ball approach most of what he had to do was just win headers. He did make a couple of fantastic last ditch tackles as well just when I thought he was f**ked as did Havern (one just outside the area was vital).
Scott Leather was a bit sluggish but still good enough. The Rovers forum remarked on how an Alty player had to miss a game due to work commitments. What they don't realise is he'd walk into any back 4 (in any position) in this league...particularly theirs...
Griffin - the jury seems to be out on this lad and that includes me but I'm coming round to the idea that maybe he's just one of those players who looks shaky even when he isn't. He had an 8 out of 10 game today without looking convincing (ok, 7) and he did well given they were trying to give him the Shearer/Parker treatment on crosses for an hour.
Cavanagh - this bloke's a class act, outstanding. Breaks the game up and comfy in possession. Exactly what we need, looked every inch a league 2 promotion winning captain from last year. How important he could be.
S Williams - looks a good player, just needs to adapt to this level and some of his team mates around him (and their quickness of thought)
There won't be a fitter full or part time footballer in this league than Simon Richman and I thought his 'legs' for us in central midfield in the last 20 minutes were vital. An excellent display.
Gillespie, not quite as good as Walshaw but suits Reeves much better. Likes to shoot from outside the box but all his efforts were reasonable, theirs were shocking.
Reevesy - Man of the match by a mile, sensational, looks like he's had a new lease of life. His best game in an Alty shirt. A Papin-esque finish that for all his 120+ goals you don't always associate with him.
Kyle Perry - did a good job after a frankly awful first 5 minutes. Has a role to play but needs to match the sheer effort and closing down of Reeves and Gillespie even if it'snot his bag.
Lively cameo from Crowther. I think LS will play him on the rw opposite Nicky Clee when we first play a part time team, at which point we'll murder them. Lawrie did ok too.
I think we've got more than enough to beat the middle third teams like them at home. But we must make sure we do. We deserved that today.
As for Bristol Rovers, well there's enough of their fans having post mortems anyway so I wouldn't comment as such, we're just a part time team that's beaten probably not the best team they've ever had so there's no need to start gloating or pontificating about life in non league, however....
Aside from the appalling defensive display and the precarious passing about from the back which always ended up in a hoof anyway....they need to shape up. They looked absolutely startled whenever we harried them off the ball (er, we are allowed to). You can't lapse into that attitude no matter where you go in this league. Adapt to it or spend a long angry time here. they had whatever fans in the away end and easily 150+ in the main stand who desperately deserve better (I've no idea what's going on their but they need to be aware of Stockport).
One thing worth commenting on is their manager's haraunging of the officials to get Clee booked for timewasting coming off from the furthest part of the pitch. Listen Darrell Clarke you dickhead, you're not at Salisbury now with your never never budget, it won't take long for Bristol to realise that you don't have genuine conference managerial ability, just the inflated cv that ian bogie had at a well funded Gateshead before he took over County. Your idea of professionalism was to get Clee booked, look at yourself you f**king pillock, you presided over the most shambolic defensive display I've seen for years, sent out an anonymous midfield, which to be fair was because the ball was lumped over their heads in your abysmal long ball pathetic tactics. You should od some hard work instead of the easy route of sh*thouse tactics. The chop is coming for you in November. X
What must worry them is this was no bunch of thugs in a ramshackle ground with a tight bobbly sloping pitch, we passed them off the park today and deserved the win.
Ok, that was a lot of comment but it's mostly by the bye. What we need to focus on is that 90+ minutes of concentration and belief at his level will see us through. Well done LS/NT and the lads.
p.s well done Stu on your 1,456,372th appearance or whatever the f**k it was, you're a ledge :-* :-* :-*
Surprised I saw you for a drink last night mate with you writing this book
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It's all about timing Jimmy.
Brian, with regards to Walshaw and Gillespie, you have to factor in their goalscoring ability. That's why I'd say Walshaw is better. It is quite important for a striker. But yes, in a years time I'll be able to make abetter judgement.
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Altrincham
Altrincham Town!!!
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It's all been said but we were very impressive yesterday. Reeves and Gillespie already forming a good understanding. Defensively apart from their soft goal we looked very solid. As Ballers said in his excellent post the penny is clearly beginning to drop with a few players even from last Saturday at Aldershot.
Bristol Rovers were predictably appalling. I didn't think beforehand they'd be up to much having spoken to a Barnet fan who saw them on Tuedday but they really were that bad. It'll be a long hard season for them. Slightly disappointed with the gate, thought it would be closer to 2000.
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I was impressed with Dizzy at the MU XI pre season match and he continues to improve and get to know the lads. I think he and Cav link up well.
My opinion is that we are in for quite a ride this season ;D
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Excellent summary Ballers, pretty much agree with your whole assessment.
Pleased with all the new signings and think they will all improve as they acclimatise to the pace and physical demands which are both a big notch higher than CN.
Sean Williams struggled a bit in the physicality stakes but I can see him controlling the midfield in games where the play gets stretched maybe coming off the bench.
We will get a better idea where we sit in the next 2 games especially Gateshead at home.