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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Brian Flynn on April 12, 2014, 02:28:36 PM
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Coburn
Densmore.....Havern.......Leather......Griffin
Lawrie......Moult......Rodgers........Clee
Walshaw......Perry
Subs: Marshall......Doughty.......Wilkinson........King.........Saunders
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1 nil down coburn lobbed ref now injured
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I'd be amazed if we got anything by not changing things drastically at half time........we will now see what lee is really made of....hednesford have come back from 2-0 down to guiseley....we need a reaction and a 2nd half performance otherwise we will be playing this league next season...I'd go 3-5-2 and bring on doughty for griffin.....
I'm expecting the same players to trot out the same nonsense for 15 minutes, go 2-0 down and finally start playing and lose 3-1
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From JL
46: Sub Marshall for Griffin
47: Three at back, Densmore in midfiled
so looks like lee has read your post Jezza
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Get in 1-1 wilkinson
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have to say lee made the right changes....maybe if we'd gone out from the kick off as we ended the game then maybe we'd control the game from the off....
now 7 points behind telford with a game in hand......4 behind ferriby same games......hope is still there.......as is delusion thinking we'll do it....win all our games and who knows...
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Looking at the table,I have us at 4th,and that's where we'll end up.
Disappointing, but the title went some time ago IMO
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Their number 6 didn't give Walshaw a look in all day. Strikes me what you need to win this league is loads of determination, close down quickly and exploit mistakes. Strangely enough exactly how we played in the second half.
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When teams close us down we can't/don't perform.
At least we showed something in the second half that might keep the neutrals in todays excellent crowd interested for the playoffs. Good goal by Wilkinson, apart from that very little else happened.
No game for Telford ( I know, I know) , Hednesford and Boston in the week so we must go and beat Oxford to cement the playoffs and then see how high we can get.
Well done Telford on producing the result when it mattered at Colwyn Bay, if North Ferriby were to win it it would have made the league more of a farce.
When push came to shove we came up short and simply weren't good enough.
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Push and shove is exactly what they did , what a team of spoilers .
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It isn't a case of not being good enough in my opinion. It's impossible to play against a team who just foul and dive when the referees let them do it. Also the liner who kept giving those questionable offside decisions didn't help either.
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Better second half but ferriby or Telford a poor side will win this league and that's dissapointing
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If Perry had concentrated on playing football and not trying to fight with the two center halfs he might have actually been involved in the game but sadly
most of it passed him by.
If you are going to play a player like Perry you need to be putting crosses in the box for him to atttack but dont think we put a decent cross in all game.
I personally have only seen him play well against Stalybridge but thats not really saying much as Stalybridge were woefull.
We far too often let teams easily close us down by playing too narrow and only using one side of the pitch at a time.
First half was awful but at least we showed a bit of spirit in the second half even if i could not quite figure out what formation we were playing at times.
Onwards to Oxford now which will be a very tricky game but I'm looking forward to it.
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Need richman and reeves back asap
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Agree with reeves
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If I'm being honest, I'd rather see Wilkinson start and have Lawrie upfront than having Perry start
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If I'm being honest, I'd rather see Wilkinson start and have Lawrie upfront than having Perry start
Agreed
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Perry was awful today
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trouty, you must have missed that cross perry got. that left him with the best chance of the game, he managed to head it over
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trouty, you must have missed that cross perry got. that left him with the best chance of the game, he managed to head it over
Must have been in the loo
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Utter Wank first half. could have changed it at the half time first half interlude.
Far better 2nd half with 3 at back and 2 wing backs.
Should have been Griffin as LWB.and Moult off and Clee in middle
showed some fight 2nd half which bodes well.
Never seen so many offsides in my life
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how the hell did we draw today , are we
lucky or what, do we deserve this promotion I
would say yes ; :-*
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Perry was awful today
I know some of you like him, and it's not good to bag your own players, but please, Kyle Perry's days are surely numbered.
He's big and strong, and he scores the odd good-looking goal against soft opposition. But, he's as slow as a funeral, he can't chase a ball, if he does win the ball he doesn't know where he's put it, and he dives and whines constantly, which puts official's backs up.
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We far too often let teams easily close us down by playing too narrow and only using one side of the pitch at a time.
So true, everything goes down the left hand side. It seems sides have worked us out - close down Clee and Walshaw and there's little else happening. Yet we send Joe Mwasile home early.
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This is a man who has scored 14 goals this season and has barley played a full match and lost weight too boot
I don't understand why more players don't want to join us it's beyond me
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This is a man who has scored 14 goals this season and has barley played a full match and lost weight too boot
I don't understand why more players don't want to join us it's beyond me
He frustrates me sometimes. Just hold the f**king ball up and then play it yes PLAY it. The header was a great chance and a player of his experience should've got that at least on target.
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This is a man who has scored 14 goals this season and has barley played a full match and lost weight too boot
I don't understand why more players don't want to join us it's beyond me
Faint praise indeed, professional sportsman loses weight.
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This is a man who has scored 14 goals this season and has barley played a full match and lost weight too boot
I don't understand why more players don't want to join us it's beyond me
Wayne he only scores against utter rubbish but that's alty all over flat track bullies
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Not beaten any of the top 5 (and they have all beaten us), says it all really
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how the hell did we draw today , are we
lucky or what, do we deserve this promotion I
would say yes ; :-*
I'd say no daz you need bollocks to deserve anything mate
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Not beaten any of the top 5 (and they have all beaten us), says it all really
While you were entering this I started a new thread with which I think you will largely agree !
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Kyle is an excellent option to bring on when we are a goal up or a goal down......I think on the whole he has not let us down this season and has put the effort in to maybe make criticism of him a little harsh....how many easy chances has reevesy missed this season?
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Kyle is an excellent option to bring on when we are a goal up or a goal down......I think on the whole he has not let us down this season and has put the effort in to maybe make criticism of him a little harsh....how many easy chances has reevesy missed this season?
perspective
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Kyle sums up the team looks ok Against garbage like Workington and staylebridge otherwise waste of time out of 14 goals only the goal at Harrogate was against a half decent side
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Kyle is an excellent option to bring on when we are a goal up or a goal down......I think on the whole he has not let us down this season and has put the effort in to maybe make criticism of him a little harsh....how many easy chances has reevesy missed this season?
to be fair this is rubbish
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Kyle is an excellent option to bring on when we are 6-0 up with 15 minutes left and you want to give Wally or Reevesy a rest before the next game
Fixed
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Kyle is an excellent option to bring on when we are a goal up or a goal down......I think on the whole he has not let us down this season and has put the effort in to maybe make criticism of him a little harsh....how many easy chances has reevesy missed this season?
to be fair this is rubbish
12 goals for the 3rd choice striker isn't rubbish. What more do you want? It's beside the point anyway as Kyle Perry is not the problem here at all.
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I'd like him to score against a half decent side we need to in the playoffs
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Why have we all become so intolerant? We are in the Conference North and therefore we have Conf North standard players and management. We have strengthened significantly since last season, despite the loss of Watmore and Boshell. The proof? Our equaliser yesterday came from 2 subs combining in Marshall and Wilkinson. And ths with Reeves and Richman out. And Perry, for all his critics is in the Top 20 goal scorers in the division.
And whilst we remain so FRUSTATING we do have more fight about us this season.
Now, more than ever, the team need us behind them for the last 4 plus 3 matches of the season, starting at Oxford on Tuesday.
See you there!
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Because at the top of the table you want good confrence north players
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Understood - but we don't need to be personally insulting to players and management.
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"Conf North standard players and management" ???
I will never be happy with that - it's the fact that so many people at the club will settle for it, that is the problem at this club
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Why have we all become so intolerant? We are in the Conference North and therefore we have Conf North standard players and management. We have strengthened significantly since last season, despite the loss of Watmore and Boshell. The proof? Our equaliser yesterday came from 2 subs combining in Marshall and Wilkinson. And ths with Reeves and Richman out. And Perry, for all his critics is in the Top 20 goal scorers in the division.
And whilst we remain so FRUSTATING we do have more fight about us this season.
Now, more than ever, the team need us behind them for the last 4 plus 3 matches of the season, starting at Oxford on Tuesday.
See you there!
We lost Watmore and Boshell. And replaced them with Perry and ermmmm no bugger.
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I didn't say I settled for it, it's just a fact of life - driven by simple economics as much as anything else
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If we replaced Watmore and Boshell with no one, how come we have a bench that is stronger than Ryan brook, that other bloke and 3 youth team players?
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I didn't say I settled for it, it's just a fact of life - driven by simple economics as much as anything else
Finance is not the problem do you walshaw griffin boshell before he left come cheap and the wages to keep reeves and say densmore
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If we replaced Watmore and Boshell with no one, how come we have a bench that is stronger than Ryan brook, that other bloke and 3 youth team players?
We never replaced Boshell - Fact
We have no mid fielder in thestyle of Bosh.
We have decent defenders on the bench compared with last season
We have Perry on the bench when Damo or Walshaw are out
Perry is good for 30 mins, he cant physically last for 90 mins.
IMO if we dont go up it will be down to not replacing Bosh.
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There were a number of posters claiming Boshell would be no loss to us if you recall
Also the more players you pay high salaries to, the more you have to pay below average given a fixed playing budget. For every John Rogers and John King there has to be an Ivan Crossley and Mickey Brooke
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I'd have said wally was the direct replacement for watmore.....and Wilkinson was the player lined up to replace boshell......Perry was strengthening the bench for me.....and if he gets 12 from the bench next season for me he'd be worth hanging onto.
close season we need two bullying controlling midfielders and a right winger and we will pi$$ this tinpot league....as we would have done had we got one controlling midfielder and a right winger anytime this season.......lee tried with smikle and mwswaile (yes I know).
Maybe next season Williams will be back, scott can go to right back and dens can go right mid meaning we will have loads to spend on the centre quality we need having shipped a few out....
....or something.
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There were a number of posters claiming Boshell would be no loss to us if you recall
Also the more players you pay high salaries to, the more you have to pay below average given a fixed playing budget. For every John Rogers and John King there has to be an Ivan Crossley and Mickey Brooke
The posts by people who said boshell would not be a loss were by people who must have a lack of knowledge about the game
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I agree Jimmy - current squad plus Bosh would be a top notch Conf North squad and we would all be a lot happier I think.
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I'd have said wally was the direct replacement for watmore.....and Wilkinson was the player lined up to replace boshell......Perry was strengthening the bench for me.....and if he gets 12 from the bench next season for me he'd be worth hanging onto.
close season we need two bullying controlling midfielders and a right winger and we will pi$$ this tinpot league....as we would have done had we got one controlling midfielder and a right winger anytime this season.......lee tried with smikle and mwswaile (yes I know).
Maybe next season Williams will be back, scott can go to right back and dens can go right mid meaning we will have loads to spend on the centre quality we need having shipped a few out....
....or something.
and presuming the players we want to stay next season actually do stay ?
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Understood - but we don't need to be personally insulting to players and management.
It's a football forum if players and management are not good enough they may get insulted nothing personal maybe id prefer a pint with perry rather than walshaw but one is a quality forward the other isnt
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I agree Jimmy - current squad plus Bosh would be a top notch Conf North squad and we would all be a lot happier I think.
Agree guru
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There are and have been many posts on this forum since that awful day v Eastbourne stating that we will "Piss this tin pot league"
I have to say that when push come to shove in the big games it's us that seems to piss ourselves and not turn up.
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maybe walshaw will want to rejoin guiseley? can't think of anyone else who will be desperately unhappy/desperately wanted by another club and have offers knockin at their door,.....
I suppose fcum may come sniffing close season....and Salford 92 will probably attempt to lure reevesey!
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compared to last season the answer is quite obviously yes!...if you don't believe me here is a sample picked at random from last season Subs: 12. Scott LEATHER, 14. Patrick LACEY, 15. Ryan BROOKE, 16. Callum MOONEY 18. Adam REID (gk)
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maybe walshaw will want to rejoin guiseley? can't think of anyone else who will be desperately unhappy/desperately wanted by another club and have offers knockin at their door,.....
I suppose fcum may come sniffing close season....and Salford 92 will probably attempt to lure reevesey!
I thought the Salford side was about young kids and from what iv heard Fcum are not big spenders despite the size of crowd
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Why will Walshaw rejoin Guiseley?
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Why will Walshaw rejoin Guiseley?
5 minutes from his house, the man he left because of has now gone, same or more money.
I'm sure he won't be committing himself to anything until he see's the outcome of the playoffs. Another thing to add to our list of worries next season.
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Why have we all become so intolerant? We are in the Conference North and therefore we have Conf North standard players and management. We have strengthened significantly since last season, despite the loss of Watmore and Boshell. The proof? Our equaliser yesterday came from 2 subs combining in Marshall and Wilkinson. And ths with Reeves and Richman out. And Perry, for all his critics is in the Top 20 goal scorers in the division.
And whilst we remain so FRUSTATING we do have more fight about us this season.
Now, more than ever, the team need us behind them for the last 4 plus 3 matches of the season, starting at Oxford on Tuesday.
See you there!
Agree and despite the loss of players like Watmore I think we've improved every season since Sinnott has joined. Some people on here seem to think we have a god-given right to be in the Conference National ever since we were relegated. It's an attitude that was hated by us of some teams in the league above yet I see the same sort of things said on here quite often.
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We're not as good as last season we maybe as high but that's because the league is worse
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We're not as good as last season we maybe as high but that's because the league is worse
A lot worse than last season
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Agree and despite the loss of players like Watmore I think we've improved every season since Sinnott has joined. Some people on here seem to think we have a god-given right to be in the Conference National ever since we were relegated. It's an attitude that was hated by us of some teams in the league above yet I see the same sort of things said on here quite often.
How right you are.
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You have to remember that this forum has been reduced to 10-15 posters and we have a hardcore of about 650.
I'd love to turn more of the readers into posters and get see what kind of debate it brings but sadly I don't think that will happen.
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Not a god given right but with the players we have apart from midfield we should've been good enough
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Agree and despite the loss of players like Watmore I think we've improved every season since Sinnott has joined. Some people on here seem to think we have a god-given right to be in the Conference National ever since we were relegated. It's an attitude that was hated by us of some teams in the league above yet I see the same sort of things said on here quite often.
How right you are.
ok, lets just be happy to be conf north then, let's accept it
I fully respect the league, but would never accept it as being where we should be. Every year we don't get promoted is a failure of the entire club, after three years of failure heads should roll
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You have to remember that this forum has been reduced to 10-15 posters and we have a hardcore of about 650.
I'd love to turn more of the readers into posters and get see what kind of debate it brings but sadly I don't think that will happen.
I think you would be surprised Ecky
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We're not as good as last season we maybe as high but that's because the league is worse
Agreed
This is mainly due to the loss of Watmore- A player who is impossible to replace
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Why will Walshaw rejoin Guiseley?
5 minutes from his house, the man he left because of has now gone, same or more money.
I'm sure he won't be committing himself to anything until he see's the outcome of the playoffs. Another thing to add to our list of worries next season.
Sadly I cant see Walshaw being here next season
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Why will Walshaw rejoin Guiseley?
5 minutes from his house, the man he left because of has now gone, same or more money.
I'm sure he won't be committing himself to anything until he see's the outcome of the playoffs. Another thing to add to our list of worries next season.
Sadly I cant see Walshaw being here next season
or reeves
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Agree and despite the loss of players like Watmore I think we've improved every season since Sinnott has joined. Some people on here seem to think we have a god-given right to be in the Conference National ever since we were relegated. It's an attitude that was hated by us of some teams in the league above yet I see the same sort of things said on here quite often.
How right you are.
ok, lets just be happy to be conf north then, let's accept it
I fully respect the league, but would never accept it as being where we should be. Every year we don't get promoted is a failure of the entire club, after three years of failure heads should roll
I never said that we should accept it and I doubt anyone here is happy that we're in the Conference North, but just because we were recently relegated from the premier doesn't mean that we'll be infinitely better than those teams in the North. We haven't got the biggest budget in this league and we haven't got the biggest crowds either. There's also only one automatic promotion space to aim for.
You're making it out like promotion should be a walk in the park when there's absolutely no basis for it. I agree that we should be up there challenging every year but there are always going to be teams that are as well equipped as us, if not better.
Promotion from this league is an achievement, not an expectation.
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Agree and despite the loss of players like Watmore I think we've improved every season since Sinnott has joined. Some people on here seem to think we have a god-given right to be in the Conference National ever since we were relegated. It's an attitude that was hated by us of some teams in the league above yet I see the same sort of things said on here quite often.
How right you are.
i don't for one second think we have a god given right to be in the league above however I do feel we have a right to expect the players to give it 100% and bust a gut especially in the big games
To not have the ambition to better your self and want to be promoted is not acceptable if we don't want to get promoted what's the point in running out into the field of play. ?
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You won't get anywhere on here talking common sense.
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We have a very competitive budget made possible by the continuous hard work of a very small group of volunteers to supplement gate money, golden goals etc. We wouldn't pay the two best ( and I would guess most expensive bar Jarman ) strikers in the league if we didn't want to win games and thus win the league.
This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad.
Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders?
It ain't a popular view to mention it but sometimes we lose track of what we do have whilst we shout about what we don't. There are many clubs who would swop places with us.
Promotion is the aim at the start of the season. We'd have to rediscover some of the mindset that we had years ago when we lose more than we win in the Premier if we got up but providing people stayed realistic then who knows what could be achieved.
It's pretty black and white for me. if Lee Sinnott gets us up then he deserves a go at it. If he doesn't then he has had three years at it which is time enough for any manager and it is time for a fresh face. That is a conversation for 3 weeks time though.
For now, I back the team and see where it takes us.
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Spot on mark
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Interesting comparisons with 2004-2005
1. Altrincham already have more points (71 against 69) than when finishing fifth.
2. Altrincham lost eleven games that season (currently lost nine)
3. Neither of the last two games of the regular season were won.
4. Neither of the first two play-off games were won in normal time (Nuneaton on pens, Kettering an own goal in extra-time).
Conclusion. The season hasn't ended yet. Anything can happen.
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We have a very competitive budget made possible by the continuous hard work of a very small group of volunteers to supplement gate money, golden goals etc. We wouldn't pay the two best ( and I would guess most expensive bar Jarman ) strikers in the league if we didn't want to win games and thus win the league.
This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad.
Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders?
Ecky I don't think anything gets lost, but as a club we need to look forward instead back in the past
This is where the mindset of the club is all wrong, keeps thinking back to those days, can't move on. And for this reason I can never see the club moving forward or back to where it was in the past. There isn't enough ambition about the place, to many people just happy to tread water because at least we got a club
I find the whole thing very sad, heartbreaking
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Interesting comparisons with 2004-2005
1. Altrincham already have more points (71 against 69) than when finishing fifth.
2. Altrincham lost eleven games that season (currently lost nine)
3. Neither of the last two games of the regular season were won.
4. Neither of the first two play-off games were won in normal time (Nuneaton on pens, Kettering an own goal in extra-time).
Conclusion. The season hasn't ended yet. Anything can happen.
Problem is we can't win big games which is a worry with playoffs coming up and this team has more ability than 2005 but they had heart
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We have a very competitive budget made possible by the continuous hard work of a very small group of volunteers to supplement gate money, golden goals etc. We wouldn't pay the two best ( and I would guess most expensive bar Jarman ) strikers in the league if we didn't want to win games and thus win the league.
This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad.
Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders?
Ecky I don't think anything gets lost, but as a club we need to look forward instead back in the past
This is where the mindset of the club is all wrong, keeps thinking back to those days, can't move on. And for this reason I can never see the club moving forward or back to where it was in the past. There isn't enough ambition about the place, to many people just happy to tread water because at least we got a club
I find the whole thing very sad, heartbreaking
Can't move on? We are a million miles away from those days, we had nothing then other than a debt laden football club lurching from crisis to crisis didn't we?
I don't see people treading water. I see 37 junior teams, ladies teams, youth education programmes, plans for a new community hall to provide the non matchday income the club has never had and to allow it to grow with solid foundations in place and decent facilities.
I see a club that has never been stronger off the field, in fact the only place it has been found wanting is on the big occasion on the pitch. That needs addressing at the end of the season as the most important of all of this is the first team.
Maybe some fans are happy in the Conference North and that is there right. I'm not one of them and I think the easiest decision the board could make for the sake of their own families and lives would be to halve the budget, accept crowds of 350-400 and potter along.
I don't see any signs of that at all so I don't think they should be criticised for something they are essentially not doing.
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True, but they managed to lose five and draw five against teams who finished in the bottom eight. And I forgot to mention they were fifteen point short of the winners Southport.
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Interesting comparisons with 2004-2005
1. Altrincham already have more points (71 against 69) than when finishing fifth.
2. Altrincham lost eleven games that season (currently lost nine)
3. Neither of the last two games of the regular season were won.
4. Neither of the first two play-off games were won in normal time (Nuneaton on pens, Kettering an own goal in extra-time).
Conclusion. The season hasn't ended yet. Anything can happen.
Problem is we can't win big games which is a worry with playoffs coming up and this team has more ability than 2005 but they had heart
Spot on Jimmy. Half ( or maybe more ) of this squad just treat it like a job in my opinion. They could be playing for Belper Town if the money was the same and have no idea how much playing for Altrincham means to us.
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How much is this community centre budgeted to raise?
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Ecky it was your post that suggested we should think back and be grateful
"This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad" these were your words
"Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders" more of your words, what was the point you were trying to make?
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True, but they managed to lose five and draw five against teams who finished in the bottom eight. And I forgot to mention they were fifteen point short of the winners Southport.
More importantly they beat all the top 5 apart from droylesden granted we lost at southport but beat them here and the 2005 wage budget was one of the lowest in the league not competetive like this squads budget
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I have to say, I can vividly remember the SAFE meetings where we would pay all our hard-earned funds to the club just to enable them to pay the players' wages. Give me our current situation over that any day of the week. The club is doing brilliantly off the field, it's on the field that needs taking up a notch or two.
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True, but they managed to lose five and draw five against teams who finished in the bottom eight. And I forgot to mention they were fifteen point short of the winners Southport.
In the 2005 team we had likes of Christ Adams taking injections to play and Eddie who basically ended his career getting us through playoffs this gang wouldn't play with a cold
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Christ Adams might not have been available to play at Easter though.
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Christ Adams might not have been available to play at Easter though.
Not as many crosses as Dean Saunders ;)
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We have a very competitive budget made possible by the continuous hard work of a very small group of volunteers to supplement gate money, golden goals etc. We wouldn't pay the two best ( and I would guess most expensive bar Jarman ) strikers in the league if we didn't want to win games and thus win the league.
This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad.
Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders?
It ain't a popular view to mention it but sometimes we lose track of what we do have whilst we shout about what we don't. There are many clubs who would swop places with us.
Promotion is the aim at the start of the season. We'd have to rediscover some of the mindset that we had years ago when we lose more than we win in the Premier if we got up but providing people stayed realistic then who knows what could be achieved.
It's pretty black and white for me. if Lee Sinnott gets us up then he deserves a go at it. If he doesn't then he has had three years at it which is time enough for any manager and it is time for a fresh face. That is a conversation for 3 weeks time though.
For now, I back the team and see where it takes us.
great post and I agree backs to the wall and let's get behind the management and players untill the last ball is kicked
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We have a very competitive budget made possible by the continuous hard work of a very small group of volunteers to supplement gate money, golden goals etc. We wouldn't pay the two best ( and I would guess most expensive bar Jarman ) strikers in the league if we didn't want to win games and thus win the league.
This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad.
Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders?
It ain't a popular view to mention it but sometimes we lose track of what we do have whilst we shout about what we don't. There are many clubs who would swop places with us.
Promotion is the aim at the start of the season. We'd have to rediscover some of the mindset that we had years ago when we lose more than we win in the Premier if we got up but providing people stayed realistic then who knows what could be achieved.
It's pretty black and white for me. if Lee Sinnott gets us up then he deserves a go at it. If he doesn't then he has had three years at it which is time enough for any manager and it is time for a fresh face. That is a conversation for 3 weeks time though.
For now, I back the team and see where it takes us.
great post and I agree backs to the wall and let's get behind the management and players untill the last ball is kicked
absof**kinglutely.
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We have a very competitive budget made possible by the continuous hard work of a very small group of volunteers to supplement gate money, golden goals etc. We wouldn't pay the two best ( and I would guess most expensive bar Jarman ) strikers in the league if we didn't want to win games and thus win the league.
This gets more and more lost each week and I think it's very sad.
Who remembers the days of public meetings being called every 6 weeks to find £10,000 or face winding up orders?
It ain't a popular view to mention it but sometimes we lose track of what we do have whilst we shout about what we don't. There are many clubs who would swop places with us.
Promotion is the aim at the start of the season. We'd have to rediscover some of the mindset that we had years ago when we lose more than we win in the Premier if we got up but providing people stayed realistic then who knows what could be achieved.
It's pretty black and white for me. if Lee Sinnott gets us up then he deserves a go at it. If he doesn't then he has had three years at it which is time enough for any manager and it is time for a fresh face. That is a conversation for 3 weeks time though.
For now, I back the team and see where it takes us.
great post and I agree backs to the wall and let's get behind the management and players untill the last ball is kicked
absof**kinglutely.
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