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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on October 19, 2013, 10:09:05 PM
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Rumpurs were true. sh*t!
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A huge blow. Hope young Greg is good.
Good luck Danny and thanks for everything you've done at Alty.
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Sorry to see him go but when it's his best mate, a chance to go into management and with (let's be honest) his club then he couldn't really turn that down.
Been a joy to watch him, one of those players who just made time and space around him.
It was a pleasure watching him in an Alty shirt and I wish him well.
His words about the club serve as a reminder of how lucky we are as well to have good people around the place.
Sad sad news but onwards and good luck to Greg.
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That is a very good statement by Bosh! Good luck to him and thanks for speaking so highly of our special club! I remember Wilkinson and thought of him as a decent player and he's of good stature but let's not underestimate jake moult, he's a good player! We have options, but we need a centre back and wide men!
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A huge blow. Hope young Greg is good.
Good luck Danny and thanks for everything you've done at Alty.
Well said all we need now is to get back Walshaw
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Big loss. In frantic games he was always able to put his foot on it, make time and get us passing. But the Club have handled it with class as usual so good luck to him, and welcome Greg.
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Good luck Danny. Welcome Greg you will enjoy your time at Alty
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Big loss. In frantic games he was always able to put his foot on it, make time and get us passing. But the Club have handled it with class as usual so good luck to him, and welcome Greg.
I agree thanks to the chairman and manager.
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He'd signed a contract. He should have turned round to his Guiseley pal and said sorry mate, already committed. Sounds like an illegal approach as well. No great loss, gave the ball away too much and didn't start enough games.
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Anyone who knows the slightest little bit about football would consider this a loss infact I would stay in the pub on a match day and not watch something I know nothing about
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It's a blow and if I'm reading between the lines in Grahams statement correctly, sounds like he was on a good deal of money. In reality though, although a big blow, what alternative at our level is there. Yes we could have said no but would we then have the Boshell playing for us we know. Good luck to him in his new role.
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He'd signed a contract. He should have turned round to his Guiseley pal and said sorry mate, already committed. Sounds like an illegal approach as well. No great loss, gave the ball away too much and didn't start enough games.
Guiseley is his club, he was offered the chance to go into management at a pretty decent level and its also with his best mate who lives 100 yards from him.
When he signed his contract I'm sure this never crossed his mind but things change.
If he had announced he wanted to fulfil his dream of playing in midfield for Leamington then I'd be annoyed but I think this is perfectly understandable.
Do you honestly think we should stop his ambitions and hold onto a player who doesn't want to be here?
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No great loss in my opinion and let's be honest he looked a bit like Wallace and Gromit.
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I wish him all the best , as i have posted before never my type of player but hope he achieves his goal with Guisley .
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In the games he has played for us apart from Chester away a game which clee and Watmore didn't play we never lost that's my type of player
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Playing for a club that stands a chance of getting promoted or being player/coach at a club that will probably get relegated at the end of which he'd probably get sacked if that club's recent history is anything to go by? If that's the height of his ambition good luck to him. If Guiseley is "his" club that much he should have gone back at the end of his loan period and not signed for Altriincham. At the end of the day he's reneged on a contract. Sure he should go if he doesn't want to play but I doubt if the manager and the chairman are congratulating him on his opportunity.
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Why slag the lad off for having ambition. He WAS an asset to the team.
Cheap snipes are not the Alty way whether or not you thought he was any good is immaterial were fkn bigger than that foks, just wish the lad well.
PS he can't look like Wallace AND Gromit ffs
Rant over
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I wish him well. He seems to have been very honest with "Sinbad" and Mr Rowley and not tried to cause any trouble. He has waited until we got a replacement and, after all, if anyone's best friend asked for help, you are likely to help.
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Do you actually know anything at all about football Ian Harwood??
Danny Boshell was and is a very good player and I wish him all the best in his new role at Guiseley. At the wrong side of 30 alot of players think about getting into coaching/management and I guess this was just too good an offer to turn down. He only left Guiseley in the first place because Kitterick was a total balloon and like others have said I'm sure he didn't sign for Altrincham knowing this was going to happen!
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Why slag the lad off for having ambition. He WAS an asset to the team.
Cheap snipes are not the Alty way whether or not you thought he was any good is immaterial were fkn bigger than that foks, just wish the lad well.
PS he can't look like Wallace AND Gromit ffs
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Fair point, I take it back. It was a cheap shot.
He's a dead ringer for Wallace.
Chill out, he was okay but we beat Brackley without him.
Nuff said really.
Oh, and by the way, Lawton passed it forward more than he did and that's saying something.
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Was great for us good luck for the future
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As Jimmy pointed out, our record with Bosh in the team speaks for itself. Nobody wants to lose quality players.
However, you have to balance that against having a player in your ranks whose heart isn't 100% behind the cause. It would be counter productive in the long run to have a player here against his wishes, however much of a wrench it is to allow him to leave.
We still have a very good squad here and we beat arguably our biggest title rivals without Bosh in the side yesterday. It's not all doom and gloom.
Thank you Bosh and good luck at Guiseley.
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Good luck Bosh and hope Greg is as good as yesterday :)
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So disappointed he's gone. I wouldn't of let him go under any circumstances, but I understand why we have. Genially think he's the difference in us having a chance winning this league. But just my opinion.
Fantastic player, massive loss. Don't think you have a football brain if you can't see that.
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Not the point Boss Hogg. If you don't want to make a commitment don't sign a contract. You're all wishing him and saying what a great player he is and what a fantastic contribution he's made but he's walked out on your club and let down the people that made the effort to secure his services. I wondered why he spent more time chatting to Guiseley players than warming up at half-time during the recent game. It's not even like he's at the end of the contract, the season is only two months old. Very uinprofessional.
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A loss for sure. He's gone now so let's' crack on with what we've got. COME ON ALTY.
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Not the point Boss Hogg. If you don't want to make a commitment don't sign a contract. You're all wishing him and saying what a great player he is and what a fantastic contribution he's made but he's walked out on your club and let down the people that made the effort to secure his services. I wondered why he spent more time chatting to Guiseley players than warming up at half-time during the recent game. It's not even like he's at the end of the contract, the season is only two months old. Very uinprofessional.
When he signed the contract he had no idea he would get what was, to him, such a good offer. I don't see why we should doubt that, when he signed the contract, he had 100% commitment to Alty, but circumstances sometimes change...
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would he have done any better than richman or moult yesterday ?better passer of the ball not as good energy wise and alot older,good luck to him .
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Not the point Boss Hogg. If you don't want to make a commitment don't sign a contract.
So nothing can ever change?
Should he have not signed for us three months ago in case Kittrick got sacked, his mate came in, made a balls of his first six games and needed his help?
He has said quite plainly it came out of blue.
Is this "banter" I'm missing again or a wind up? I have form for this kind of thing...
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I am dissapointed he has left us, but holding on to players who want to be released from their contract can rarely be a good thing........I am also a little bit surprised that he is going to work for a Chairman who stood by and let the last manager ban him from the ground when he was on loan with us
I wish him well and hope he does not come on against us and create the point saving goal that denies us promotion !
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Not the point Boss Hogg. If you don't want to make a commitment don't sign a contract.
So nothing can ever change?
Should he have not signed for us three months ago in case Kittrick got sacked, his mate came in, made a balls of his first six games and needed his help?
He has said quite plainly it came out of blue.
Is this "banter" I'm missing again or a wind up? I have form for this kind of thing...
Good luck to him but a gamble as is most things.
The next stage in the scenario above could easily be....
Don't turn it around in the next few games and his pal is shown the door along with him.
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Not at all a wind up Ecky. If you sign a contract you make a commitment. I said in my first post he should have turned round to his mate at Guiseley and said, sorry I've already committed myself to Altrincham, call me next year. People are making it sound like he was offered a coaching job at Manchester United or something.
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The reason for getting players to sign contracts is that when things like this happen the club get some money.
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Not at all a wind up Ecky. If you sign a contract you make a commitment. I said in my first post he should have turned round to his mate at Guiseley and said, sorry I've already committed myself to Altrincham, call me next year. People are making it sound like he was offered a coaching job at Manchester United or something.
are you familiar with the concept of divorce,just out of interest?
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Not at all a wind up Ecky. If you sign a contract you make a commitment. I said in my first post he should have turned round to his mate at Guiseley and said, sorry I've already committed myself to Altrincham, call me next year. People are making it sound like he was offered a coaching job at Manchester United or something.
Hypathetical situation because neither you or I are footballers but picture it like this....You've played for Altrincham,a club you've held close to your heart for several years but the manager is a total bell end and bans you from the ground making it clear you'll never be in his plans. You're 31 yrs old and are offered a contract by Guiseley with whom you've spent time on loan. You sign the contract and start enjoying your football but said bellend at Altrincham leaves and the club you love and they are battling relegation and offer you the 1st step on your managerial ladder. Would you say no,ask me again at the end of the season or would you do your best to get released and take said job?
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I admire Danny Boshell, for as Rocky Robin said above, this is one hell of a gamble for him - that sort of gutsy decision deserves to be rewarded, but unless Guiseley get some results soon, it'll be curtains for Danny.
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Shame Altrincham couldn't apply the same logic to Michael Twiss's contract.
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Shame Altrincham couldn't apply the same logic to Michael Twiss's contract.
Totally different situation but I know what you mean. Kyle perry looks like he's on the same diet as Twissy!!!
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Best wishes Danny, it was a pleasure to see a class player while it lasted and the club has shown its class again by allowing the move. I hope that the deal involved an agreement that you wont play in the Guiseley away match as a return gesture of goodwill to Alty.
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Chill out, he was okay but we beat Brackley without him.
Nuff said really.
Oh, and by the way, Lawton passed it forward more than he did and that's saying something.
Yes but Bosh did pass it to Altrincham players though, quite a key thing!
I don't really know where to start. In fact, it's so astounding maybe not starting at all is the best option.
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Chill out, he was okay but we beat Brackley without him.
Nuff said really.
Oh, and by the way, Lawton passed it forward more than he did and that's saying something.
Yes but Bosh did pass it to Altrincham players though, quite a key thing!
I don't really know where to start. In fact, it's so astounding maybe not starting at all is the best option.
What's astounding? That people don't have the same opinion as each other? It'd be a boring world if we all thought the same wouldn't it?
Personally, I don't think we'll miss him.
That's my opinion, as it obviously is others' too.
I'm not necessarily right, and may in fact be wrong but hey ho it's my honest thoughts.
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I am dissapointed he has left us, but holding on to players who want to be released from their contract can rarely be a good thing........I am also a little bit surprised that he is going to work for a Chairman who stood by and let the last manager ban him from the ground when he was on loan with us
I wish him well and hope he does not come on against us and create the point saving goal that denies us promotion !
I would be BITTERLY disappointed if our Chairman interfered in a disciplinary matter between the Manager and a player......whether Kittrick is a balloon or not doesn't alter that, you cannot undermine your manager.
For the record I could see the good points about Bosh, but actually think he wasn't QUITE as good as some on here think (Jimmy : I think I know a LITTLE bit about the game !)
Bottom line : he's been given an opportunity to start on the rung to coaching and management. He's approached the Club in the correct manner. Good luck to him.
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Yes but phil you surely would consider it a loss which I did point out first
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We lost one game that he was involved in since he joined, what can't people see in that.
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We lost one game that he was involved in since he joined, what can't people see in that.
True, and he'll be a loss.
However Ill wait untill Ive seen Greg first before deciding how big of a loss. People believe scott phelan going would be a loss but he was replaced by someone a hell of a lot better eventually
I still maintain we'll win the league, but itll be tougher without Bosh
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I believe wilkinson should be a good signing slightly different player comes forward more as for phealan I thought it was a good thing him going with him being moderate at best
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We lost one game that he was involved in since he joined, what can't people see in that.
True, and he'll be a loss.
However Ill wait untill Ive seen Greg first before deciding how big of a loss. People believe scott phelan going would be a loss but he was replaced by someone a hell of a lot better eventually
I still maintain we'll win the league, but itll be tougher without Bosh
You can speak for yourself on that one JJ!!!
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Our willingness to be grown up about contracts and releasing players for better offers will help us attract good ambitious players, even it it turns out to be for a short period. Before someone says 'what's the point of a contract then' it stops players getting tempted by an extra £50 a week somewhere. This is clearly a different matter, as is Reeve's league club clause and McGregor getting a manager job etc (may have got the wrong defender there?).
To me this is another example of what a good club we are (but I agree I hope we asked him not to play against us!)
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Our willingness to be grown up about contracts and releasing players for better offers will help us attract good ambitious players, even it it turns out to be for a short period. Before someone says 'what's the point of a contract then' it stops players getting tempted by an extra £50 a week somewhere. This is clearly a different matter, as is Reeve's league club clause and McGregor getting a manager job etc (may have got the wrong defender there?).
To me this is another example of what a good club we are (but I agree I hope we asked him not to play against us!)
The club will never be successful until they have a settled team. Too many players come and go.
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Our willingness to be grown up about contracts and releasing players for better offers will help us attract good ambitious players, even it it turns out to be for a short period. Before someone says 'what's the point of a contract then' it stops players getting tempted by an extra £50 a week somewhere. This is clearly a different matter, as is Reeve's league club clause and McGregor getting a manager job etc (may have got the wrong defender there?).
To me this is another example of what a good club we are (but I agree I hope we asked him not to play against us!)
The club will never be successful until they have a settled team. Too many players come and go.
In fairness I think that is what Sinbad is trying to do - he managed to keep most of last year's squad here and also brought in better players to replace those who left or were released.
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seems to have been done in a mature way with no need for clubs or players to come out with ridiculous statements.....
No hard feelings from me although I hope there is an agreement that Bosh does not play against us for the duration of the contract from which we have released him.
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seems to have been done in a mature way with no need for clubs or players to come out with ridiculous statements.....
No hard feelings from me although I hope there is an agreement that Bosh does not play against us for the duration of the contract from which we have released him.
I think that's highly unlikely to be honest. Never heard of conditions like that in permanent transfers, only loans. Could be wrong.
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He was useless, did nothing for Alty, shows no ambition and can't pass the ball. I would never have him in my team and good riddance.
TEASER !!!
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He was useless, did nothing for Alty, shows no ambition and can't pass the ball. I would never have him in my team and good riddance.
TEASER !!!
Is that describing Wayno in Staff v Supporters?
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Our willingness to be grown up about contracts and releasing players for better offers will help us attract good ambitious players, even it it turns out to be for a short period. Before someone says 'what's the point of a contract then' it stops players getting tempted by an extra £50 a week somewhere. This is clearly a different matter, as is Reeve's league club clause and McGregor getting a manager job etc (may have got the wrong defender there?).
To me this is another example of what a good club we are (but I agree I hope we asked him not to play against us!)
The club will never be successful until they have a settled team. Too many players come and go.
In fairness I think that is what Sinbad is trying to do - he managed to keep most of last year's squad here and also brought in better players to replace those who left or were released.
FFS! ::) ;D
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seems to have been done in a mature way with no need for clubs or players to come out with ridiculous statements.....
No hard feelings from me although I hope there is an agreement that Bosh does not play against us for the duration of the contract from which we have released him.
I think that's highly unlikely to be honest. Never heard of conditions like that in permanent transfers, only loans. Could be wrong.
Think the rule is that if I put "could be wrong" at the end of a post I am.
Apparently he can't play against us in the league or the trophy this season as part of the deal.
As far as I know that's not common in a permanent deal but was a condition of his release.
Hats off to the chairman for that one.