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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: JDN on February 23, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
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Unless action is taken quickly this man will destroy this football club
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I'm sure he will get to the end of the season at least
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He was the bloody messiah 2 weeks ago! :D This forum sometimes... ::)
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He was the bloody messiah 2 weeks ago! :D This forum sometimes... ::)
was he? :D
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People were singing his praises, yes.
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Not sure he was
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People were singing his praises, yes.
who was?
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Today he was a very silly boy
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Got to go for me,2 seasons of mediocraty isn't good enough for this club! Luton got to the 5th round of the FA Cup knocking out Wolves and Norwich while sitting just outside the play off zone yet Buckle went. We got a draw at f**kin Byrton and people think Sinnott is the messiah!! Wake up and smell the coffee!!
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I was singing his praises two weeks ago.
However three games on and the vast improvements i have seen from the team have all but dissappeared.
The football isnt pretty, the running is good, the commitment doesnt seem there these last three games.
1 point from 9 from teams near the bottom of the table is not play off form.
As of today my praises for LS have diminished alot. We have a long way to go to get into the play offs. Losing 8 points that we should have got seriously dents our chances.
Should we make the play offs I would give him another season. If we dont then time for a change. My opinion on that hasnt change. My opinion has changed however as to whether we will reach the play offs, and as of today I dont think we will.
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I was singing his praises two weeks ago.
However three games on and the vast improvements i have seen from the team have all but dissappeared.
The football isnt pretty, the running is good, the commitment doesnt seem there these last three games.
1 point from 9 from teams near the bottom of the table is not play off form.
As of today my praises for LS have diminished alot. We have a long way to go to get into the play offs. Losing 8 points that we should have got seriously dents our chances.
Should we make the play offs I would give him another season. If we dont then time for a change. My opinion on that hasnt change. My opinion has changed however as to whether we will reach the play offs, and as of today I dont think we will.
this i praise when praise is due and did and criticise when it is due
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He was the bloody messiah 2 weeks ago!
No, he was a very naughty boy!
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Got to go for me,2 seasons of mediocraty isn't good enough for this club! Luton got to the 5th round of the FA Cup knocking out Wolves and Norwich while sitting just outside the play off zone yet Buckle went. We got a draw at f**kin Byrton and people think Sinnott is the messiah!! Wake up and smell the coffee!!
Poor example mate of Luton. Buckle left due to personal reasons, and the board publicly came out and said wanted him to stay.
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Got to go for me,2 seasons of mediocraty isn't good enough for this club! Luton got to the 5th round of the FA Cup knocking out Wolves and Norwich while sitting just outside the play off zone yet Buckle went. We got a draw at f**kin Byrton and people think Sinnott is the messiah!! Wake up and smell the coffee!!
Poor example mate of Luton. Buckle left due to personal reasons, and the board publicly came out and said wanted him to stay.
Fair enough mate but still not happy with 2 seasons of nothingness.
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Oh please!
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What do you mean phil with please I'd say the last post was fair enough
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I refer actually to posts 1, 10 & 15 on this thread
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1 was abit over the top but 10 mostly right and 15 slightly corrected what was said on 10
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The draw away at Burton was the highlight of a poor season, they totally underestimated us. By the way we were piss poor away at leek in the amazing cup run
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The draw away at Burton was the highlight of a poor season, they totally underestimated us. By the way we were piss poor away at leek in the amazing cup run
Leek was simply a case of not adapting our game to playing on a pitch that hadn't been mowed. We've played far worse than that on a number of occasions. Obviously our last three games (I take Histon on the word of others), but also the home game with Workington, and the dreadful Trophy capitulation at Halifax. The home game with Corby also springs to mind.
The best of teams have poor days, and can still win games. We have too many of them, and don't win ugly (like that Corby game) often enough.
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Sinnout
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Changing the manager at this time of the season would not help the team in the long run. I think it is a little early to be pressing the panic button. There is still plenty of points to play for. I think we need to win at Gloucester though because I fancy Gainsboro to get something at Chester on Wednesday.
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Same old story , we go on a good streak and it all goes quite , but lose a couple and we all call for his head , so we need players , midfield mainly , so who do we get who is any good , i still think he is better than Heathcote myself .
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When I saw the team sheet I wasn't too displeased (allbeit I'd have Leather in for Hall). I thought it would be 4-3-1-2 with Watmore given a free role behind Reeves and Mlls. So I was staggered when we lined up 4-4-2 with Watmore and Richman out wide.
I been 50/50 with LS most of the season the problem I have is his insistance on 4-4-2 and no plan B.
If he going to play 4-4-2 then he has to play Clee LW.
As we're obliged to play the loanee Mills the problem is Watmore will have to play RW.
Personally I'd go 3-4-3.
I think LS should remain in charge untill end of season and if we havent made PO's he has to go.
If Gary Lowe spends as much time studying coaching methods as he he does on twitter he should make a bloody good manager!
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Probably repeating something said elsewhere but IF Gary Lowe is as good as he is made out to be then why is he still not Managing anyone?
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When I saw the team sheet I wasn't too displeased (allbeit I'd have Leather in for Hall). I thought it would be 4-3-1-2 with Watmore given a free role behind Reeves and Mlls. So I was staggered when we lined up 4-4-2 with Watmore and Richman out wide.
I been 50/50 with LS most of the season the problem I have is his insistance on 4-4-2 and no plan B.
If he going to play 4-4-2 then he has to play Clee LW.
As we're obliged to play the loanee Mills the problem is Watmore will have to play RW.
Personally I'd go 3-4-3.
I think LS should remain in charge untill end of season and if we havent made PO's he has to go.
If Gary Lowe spends as much time studying coaching methods as he he does on twitter he should make a bloody good manager!
Are we 'obliged' to play Mills?
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Not only obliged correct to play him the mistakes were Watmore on wrong side not starting clee not dropping moult starting richman in centre also not playing leather for hall for such a small squad its amazing how many selection mistakes he makes
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Probably repeating something said elsewhere but IF Gary Lowe is as good as he is made out to be then why is he still not Managing anyone?
What's Gary Lowe got to do with anything
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Not only obliged correct to play him the mistakes were Watmore on wrong side not starting clee not dropping moult starting richman in centre also not playing leather for hall for such a small squad its amazing how many selection mistakes he makes
100% correct.
Even if you're going to drop Clee to the bench (his recent games haven't been anywhere bear the quality he is capable of) then you have to play leather at left back and doughty in midfield if its a 4-4-2. Putting one of your best players out of position and expecting him to adapt is ridiculous. Its happened before and not worked. Duncan is NOT a left winger!
Hall is sh*te by the way. And I don't mind saying that in as few words. Ridiculous. Probably worse than Adie Hawes. In fact worse than Hawes and Marc Joseph at their most tragic.
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Same old story , we go on a good streak and it all goes quite , but lose a couple and we all call for his head , so we need players , midfield mainly , so who do we get who is any good , i still think he is better than Heathcote myself .
i have to ask as I am intrigued what do you base this on that lee is better than graham or has achieved more? Given the cup run was a bonus apart from that I would love to know
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Like Wayne I'm intrigued or is it just the fact that people post and don't justify what they're saying
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Very surprised at some people's opinion of Danny Hall. I think that he has been a good acquisition for us and forms a good partnership with Luca.
Scott needs to get a bit more experience at this level and to fill out a bit (Not my words but those of a relative of his)
When all is said and done though football is a game of opinions
I am a Referee therefore my opinion is ALWAYS correct
This, for those of you who don't recognise the previous two lines it is irony
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When all is said and done though football is a game of opinions
I am a Referee therefore my opinion is ALWAYS correct
This, for those of you who don't recognise the previous two lines it is irony
Speaking of referees how shocking were the referee and Lino yesterday. I don't normally complain as its a hard job and humans make errors, but seriously the amount of shirt pulling, synical late tackles from Colwyn bay were shocking. There should have been about 6 or 7 yellows yesterday. Plus the Lino flagged an Alty player off side despite being about 2 yards onside. Terrible decisions all round
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Very surprised at some people's opinion of Danny Hall. I think that he has been a good acquisition for us and forms a good partnership with Luca.
Danny Hall is poor and costing us a goal a game at the moment
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Very surprised at some people's opinion of Danny Hall. I think that he has been a good acquisition for us and forms a good partnership with Luca.
Scott needs to get a bit more experience at this level and to fill out a bit (Not my words but those of a relative of his)
When all is said and done though football is a game of opinions
I am a Referee therefore my opinion is ALWAYS correct
This, for those of you who don't recognise the previous two lines it is irony
On what basis? He's slow, has no urgency and thinks he is far better than he is. His partnership with Luca has not been fantastic. When Scott Leathrr has played with Luca we have looked more solid at the back.
Danny Hall has no sense of urgency, he looks like a headless chicken at times and his positioning is shoddy at best. He thinks he knows it all but he just wants to pass it around the back four. That in itself is no bad thing but when you are chasing a winner and you are playing it around the defence in the 93rd minute, its just ridiculous. If we released him tomorrow it wouldn't be soon enough.
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The draw away at Burton was the highlight of a poor season, they totally underestimated us. By the way we were piss poor away at leek in the amazing cup run
Totally agree
Poor season due to a poor manager
Hysteria?
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The draw away at Burton was the highlight of a poor season, they totally underestimated us. By the way we were piss poor away at leek in the amazing cup run
Totally agree
Poor season due to a poor manager
Hysteria?
Who would your choice of new manager be ?
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George Heslop
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In this day and age sinnot should have been given a season max to get us in the play offs, its not cut throat its actually refreshing, we have been dealt a smokescreen from this issue's with outstanding performances from reeves, watmore and the fa cup money, i dont think theres much point arguing with eachother as everyones feeling the same hurt, at the end of the day he just cant get the players to play well enough and tactically he is bad :(
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If we don't finish in the top 5 come the end of the season, then Sinnott should walk. Simple as that.
For what it's worth. I still fancy us to make the playoffs. And if we do then Sinnott should stay regardless of individual games or tactical mistakes.
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If we don't finish in the top 5 come the end of the season, then Sinnott should walk. Simple as that.
For what it's worth. I still fancy us to make the playoffs. And if we do then Sinnott should stay regardless of individual games or tactical mistakes.
Agree i would take losing in the plays offs as being enough for ls to keep his job as long as watmore and reeves stay
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George Heslop
and smally as assistant manager lets be honest our best player this year was given to Lee anyway from them
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George Heslop
and smally as assistant manager lets be honest our best player this year was given to Lee anyway from them
We could do worse. I remember George's analysis on Radio Robins and was very impressed by his nouse.
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Very surprised at some people's opinion of Danny Hall. I think that he has been a good acquisition for us and forms a good partnership with Luca.
Phil,
Well, I'm disappointed at you, as you are usually the scourge of ponderous centre halfs!
After all, you used to give dear old Darren Tinson some considerable grief on this Forum and, to be fair to him, he was nearing 40 and playing in a higher division.
Personally, I'm increasingly underwhelmed by Hall, who appears to be under the delusion that he is Franz Beckenbauer.
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If we don't finish in the top 5 come the end of the season, then Sinnott should walk. Simple as that.
For what it's worth. I still fancy us to make the playoffs. And if we do then Sinnott should stay regardless of individual games or tactical mistakes.
Agree i would take losing in the plays offs as being enough for ls to keep his job as long as watmore and reeves stay
But have the board already decided that we will not WIN the playoffs,and so where we finish is not as important.
If so, they may not be willing to allow spending on further players this season?
It's not the course of action I would advocate, but it would explain the lack of interest in obtaining the services of a couple of extra midfielders.
With things as they stand, a couple of injuries to key players could see us in real trouble.
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We should have offered Guiseley £20,000 for the two boshells that have fallen out with Steve kitterick and been transfer listed
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We should have offered Guiseley £20,000 for the two boshells that have fallen out with Steve kitterick and been transfer listed
we dont pay transfer fees
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We should have offered Guiseley £20,000 for the two boshells that have fallen out with Steve kitterick and been transfer listed
The wages that go with mate not sure it be possible
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We should have offered Guiseley £20,000 for the two boshells that have fallen out with Steve kitterick and been transfer listed
we dont pay transfer fees
Why? If its a sound investment and can be afforded? I'm not being flippant with that remark by the way
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We've not paid a transfer fee in years because we've had no money.
Now we have
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We've not paid a transfer fee in years because we've had no money.
Now we have
was keith russell the last fee paid ? around 1998 ?
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I think it was Andy McDonald in 2002.
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I think Bandy was £4,000, although I think Bernard and others may have paid that.
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Didn't gestetner fund or part fund the £25,000 transfer fee for Keith Russell? Bizaare arrangement that was...
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Didn't gestetner fund or part fund the £25,000 transfer fee for Keith Russell? Bizaare arrangement that was...
Gestetner there a name from the past
:D
http://www.gestetner.com/
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Didn't gestetner fund or part fund the £25,000 transfer fee for Keith Russell? Bizaare arrangement that was...
Correct , it was part of an awful deal where we leased some sort of printing machine from them and they paid us in advance for t-shirt sales.
We would had have to shift a fair few t-shirts I think. Needless to say to say I think it went legal (like Keith Russell)
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Very good forward Mr Russell, liked the booze I understand but the first time I saw him in an Alty shirt I thought what the f*ck do we have here
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I wonder if the no speaking publically Clause is still inserted in to contacts :D
He wasn't too sore to play pool in the hurst cross social club all afternoon the ponce..
http://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/archive/1998/10/08/Trafford+Archive/7233952.MYSTERY_still_surrounds_the_reasons_behind_Altrincham_striker_Keith_Russell_being_transfer_listed_la/
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He liked a pint, Whoop Dee Doo ;)
Kingy used to like a pint in Red Robin Club, by the way the fella walks on water ;D
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I think for the average Alty fan we find ourselves in a strange position. Most fans favour stability and don't want to see constant changes of management but at the same time I don't think any of us think we are moving forward at the moment.
We seem to be going through cycles of looking a good side with good football to watch and then very poor quality football often against poor opposition.
I don't pretend to know what the answer is but I can't see how a change of management at this stage of the season would help our cause. Surely the time to make the big decisions is in the summer, if a knee jerk reaction was made now then we will end up with whoever is available not the best man for the job.
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I think for the average Alty fan we find ourselves in a strange position. Most fans favour stability and don't want to see constant changes of management but at the same time I don't think any of us think we are moving forward at the moment.BEFORE the season ends.
We seem to be going through cycles of looking a good side with good football to watch and then very poor quality football often against poor opposition.
I don't pretend to know what the answer is but I can't see how a change of management at this stage of the season would help our cause. Surely the time to make the big decisions is in the summer, if a knee jerk reaction was made now then we will end up with whoever is available not the best man for the job.
Whilst I'm not calling for Lee's head, I do have to say that, IF the board were considering "letting him go", they should do it before the season ends. Any new manager then has the whole summer to sort things out.
But I wouldn't sack Lee anyway !
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I think for the average Alty fan we find ourselves in a strange position. Most fans favour stability and don't want to see constant changes of management but at the same time I don't think any of us think we are moving forward at the moment.BEFORE the season ends.
We seem to be going through cycles of looking a good side with good football to watch and then very poor quality football often against poor opposition.
I don't pretend to know what the answer is but I can't see how a change of management at this stage of the season would help our cause. Surely the time to make the big decisions is in the summer, if a knee jerk reaction was made now then we will end up with whoever is available not the best man for the job.
Whilst I'm not calling for Lee's head, I do have to say that, IF the board were considering "letting him go", they should do it before the season ends. Any new manager then has the whole summer to sort things out.
But I wouldn't sack Lee anyway !
is he on a two year contract ?
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Lee will stay and rightly so.
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Very good forward Mr Russell, liked the booze I understand but the first time I saw him in an Alty shirt I thought what the f*ck do we have here
Got on one of my dads buses in Blackpool and when my dad recognised him sheepishly walked off.
He was plastered. Think he was living in Lytham at the time as I also saw him in a car once on the south prom
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I think it was Andy McDonald in 2002.
First game away at Lancaster if I remember correctly on a weekday night.
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Lee will stay and rightly so.
Why?
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Sinnout
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Very surprised at some people's opinion of Danny Hall. I think that he has been a good acquisition for us and forms a good partnership with Luca.
Phil,
Well, I'm disappointed at you, as you are usually the scourge of ponderous centre halfs!
After all, you used to give dear old Darren Tinson some considerable grief on this Forum and, to be fair to him, he was nearing 40 and playing in a higher division.
Personally, I'm increasingly underwhelmed by Hall, who appears to be under the delusion that he is Franz Beckenbauer.
Barry
The comparison of Danny Hall and the fossilised Tinson is akin to comparing Sara Martins to Mona
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Franz Beckenbauer ? Hall is more like Franz Half an hour.....which is about the time he seems to need on the ball of late.
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I think it was Andy McDonald in 2002.
Did we sign him from Coronation Street?
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I think it was Andy McDonald in 2002.
First game away at Lancaster if I remember correctly on a weekday night.
I think that it was Lancaster away, but on a Saturday afternoon......about October/November 1997?
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Lee's fate will rest with chairman, probably at the end of this season. If he stays some will see this as a message to the fans that BSCN is good enough. Personally, I can't get too exicted either way, he isn't terrible. In a 3rd season though he will have nowhere to hide, play-offs will be demanded surely?
If Lincoln don't come down, Guiseley go up and FC United don't do a Chester, we have nothing to fear next season and no excuses.