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Title: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 08, 2012, 04:54:50 PM
To not start the best right sided footballer outside the football league against a make shift left back is negligent at best, not f**king good enough, your treating us like idiots...
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: wayno on December 08, 2012, 05:01:12 PM
How number 7 started over him is a mystery
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 08, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
I've been very reserved in my judgement over the last season and a half, today was nothing short of a disgrace, it was obvious to all around me we'd lose 0-1, we always conceed, but to leave Duncan on the bench when the guy standing in at left back for them has played about 3 games since July and is a makeshift left back is the last straw for me, where's this managers survival instinct? Joke
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: brian1925 on December 08, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
I think managers are just sometimes guilty of over-thinking things from time-to-time. I like Lee and i think our club are in a good place at the mo (sounds like we were v unlucky today), but if i could send Lee a message right now, it would be: just pick your best player mate - simples!
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: whopper on December 08, 2012, 05:33:32 PM
Looks like a midtable finish again this season  :(
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: joe on December 08, 2012, 05:38:55 PM
Sinnout!!
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Beaver on December 08, 2012, 06:26:25 PM
We are frustrating, unfortunately today's result was predictable. We are predictably inconsistent...... AGAIN!!!
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: VofD on December 08, 2012, 06:30:17 PM
Why the f**k did he allow Brooke,who was absolutely AWFUL, to remain on the pitch for 90 mins.If Sinnott really thinks Brooke is a BSN player, then I really despair for this club. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 08, 2012, 06:35:44 PM
Brooke had a better game than reeves today
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: arnald on December 08, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
1 point would be ok sumtimes , but another home defeat not nice
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jezza on December 08, 2012, 06:43:45 PM
how did Jordan sinnout play?.....I can only assume Lee rates him higher than Duncan for some reason.....must have been a boost to the gainsboro team hearing Duncan wasn't starting....
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: ASMO on December 08, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
Brooke  did ok but to say he was better than Reeves is not the way i saw it , imo reeves was pushed and shoved about , but ref never gave him any protection all afternoon
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: arnald on December 08, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
so why was whatmore on the bench ? was he unfit or sumet
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: decman7 on December 08, 2012, 07:29:29 PM
Sinnott did ok, he looks like he could be a very good player. I thought Brooke did ok for about 60 mins then went missing and should of been brought off. Why Duncan didn't start is beyond me. It's starting to get ridiculous. It seems he doesn't want to burn Duncan out but it really does effect us when he doesn't play. No idea why he took Moult off ether.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: arnald on December 08, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
do you think we are geting to confident against teams in are league , having  super subs ?
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jenga on December 08, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
We played ok today, ran at their defence and apart from their keeper we would have had the game sown up early on.

Watmore should have started today.

Was impressed with Brooke, and I thought Sinnout offered something as well in the middle as an attacking midfielder.

For me it was a case points lost thought today.

My only good point is that I can see the team playing some nice football and the players are now forming more team play. We are improving and the jigsaws are coming together. I like the way we play, I like the players we have and I think things do look brighter going forward. I can see what Sinnout is trying to do and I firmly believe that if we can keep this team together we will go places, just not this season. I am going to actually support Sinnout at present, the signs are there.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 08, 2012, 08:03:11 PM
 Do any of us know if Duncan was 100% fit today, how he trained on Thursday or any other reason why he may have chosen to start him on the bench? I would venture to suggest that the answer to that is a resounding NO!!

Another question - Who knows the players better, the Manager who works one to one with them, knows how they train, how they're feeling, their strengths and weaknesses  OR some people on here who look at most everything through red and white striped shirts hoping that some nasty facts don't get in the way of their personal perceptions.

Oh and for my money (and incidentally that of quite a few folk around the ground) Ryan Brooke didn't have a bad game at all. Seldom looked like scoring in all honesty but worked hard, linked play well and helped to make chances for some others

Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 08, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
Ryan Brooke looked like the sort of player you throw on when your 2 up somewhere with 15 left to chase the ball down.... Not starting Duncan against Greg young today was a disgrace, as was yet again only have four subs, however its dressed up...
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 08, 2012, 08:41:14 PM
So do you actually know whether Duncan was 100% fit or how he trained on Thursday then Pete?

Maybe you know the reasoning for him being left on the bench?

As for the four substitutes thing. I'll agree with it on the whole but would just ask who else you would have put on there?

Simon Richman is unwell, Danny Hall suspended, Sam Grimshaw injured and Danny Mitchley on loan at Marine to get some game time so I assume, that he will be hopefully a bit more up to speed if/when we need him later in the season.

As I said Ryan Brooke never looked much like scoring but did okay. Too many people (and I'm not necessarily including you) had decided he was going to be crap before he even set foot out of the dressing room and would have said he was even had he scored a hat trick
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: whopper on December 08, 2012, 08:42:09 PM
Think lee tryed to play tight at home and maybe doesnt rate duncans defending? Either way phil if he's fit to play then he should start no excuses.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: taxi Phil on December 08, 2012, 08:53:44 PM
I've been one of Brooke's biggest critics, but thought he was good today. I also thought Lacey put in a good shift. Jordan Sinnott looks a very good young player in the making. Nobody actually had a bad game today apart from Reeves who was simply kicked out of it. Budtz was excellent in goal for them, and but for him we would probably have won.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: distancetraveller on December 08, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
Do any of us know if Duncan was 100% fit today, how he trained on Thursday or any other reason why he may have chosen to start him on the bench? I would venture to suggest that the answer to that is a resounding NO!!
Another question - Who knows the players better, the Manager who works one to one with them, knows how they train, how they're feeling, their strengths and weaknesses  OR some people on here who look at most everything through red and white striped shirts hoping that some nasty facts don't get in the way of their personal perceptions.
Oh and for my money (and incidentally that of quite a few folk around the ground) Ryan Brooke didn't have a bad game at all. Seldom looked like scoring in all honesty but worked hard, linked play well and helped to make chances for some others

In answer to your question = No we dont know - however the lad hasnt hardly completed 90 mins all season, If he is indeed fit then Mr Sinnot's decision not to give the lad a full game is not one of his better choices, and I have to agree with Pete and say he would/could have ran Greg Young ragged all afternoon. Nice bloke Greg but a left back he aint. PS thought Brooke did ok
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: thegazelle on December 08, 2012, 09:24:46 PM
a messgae from an idiot abroad

why should we accept getting beat by Gainsborough . we are supposed to be contenders we lost at home to chester brackley guisley and for fecks sake gainsboro plus workington et al . no chance of the play offs for us.  2 year plan my arse. great football no points,
good attacking play but why cant we defend with a manager who was a top level defender.

I know i cant really vote because i am not there every week and some prick will peake me for saying it (and remember i think your a faceless prick who wouldnt say it to my face  before you peeke me), but sinnout for me.

 lets start agian for next season coz this one is over.

and yes i was there at halifax to watch that debacle because i do go when i can.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: arnald on December 08, 2012, 09:38:46 PM
dont give up on mr sinnott ,mr king took a while
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: robininstockport on December 08, 2012, 10:00:45 PM
Watmore should have stated rw and sinnout mid and lacey on bench.

Having said that we were miles better than them 2nd half and should won comfortable.
 
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jenga on December 08, 2012, 10:12:35 PM
I agree with ATS. Usually I dont but on this issue I do.

I am sure I read somewhere that Duncan was not 100% fit. If that is the case you dont play him in the first 11. If however he was fully fit then he should have started.

Maybe LS will comment on the forum homepage in a couple of days time and we can see his side of the story. Until then it is difficult for us all to comment really.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: scott tompson on December 08, 2012, 10:52:16 PM
Im not gunna call for his head, but cant see us getting in the play offs, quite sad really as we should be in the blue square prem; however, we cant be in a negative frame of mind, lets thrash droylsden and hopefully get a point against brackley!
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: fuertes on December 08, 2012, 11:27:06 PM
Just a couple of things:-

If we use last season as a guide, we need another 49 points from our remaining 26 games to make the playoffs. Call me a dreamer if you must, but I hardly think 14 wins, 7 draws and 5 defeats is beyond the realms of possibility. It's not long since we went 9 unbeaten. And I assume we might pick up a couple of players in Jan with our (well-earned ) FA Cup money.

I have no particular reason to back Sinnott. I don't know the man. But I think it's worth at least acknowledging that he's got us playing a decent brand of football and that he still has a chance of achieving something this season. Let's finish this season and see how we go. If we finish 13th and it looks like we're going nowhere then fine, it's worth considering alternatives. But I think there's still a chance he'll do the business for us.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jenga on December 08, 2012, 11:30:10 PM
Agree Banbury.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 08, 2012, 11:47:24 PM
Do any of us know if Duncan was 100% fit today, how he trained on Thursday or any other reason why he may have chosen to start him on the bench? I would venture to suggest that the answer to that is a resounding NO!!

Another question - Who knows the players better, the Manager who works one to one with them, knows how they train, how they're feeling, their strengths and weaknesses  OR some people on here who look at most everything through red and white striped shirts hoping that some nasty facts don't get in the way of their personal perceptions.

Oh and for my money (and incidentally that of quite a few folk around the ground) Ryan Brooke didn't have a bad game at all. Seldom looked like scoring in all honesty but worked hard, linked play well and helped to make chances for some others


Phil there was nothing wrong with Duncan we saw that when he came on may I add if we're good enough to drop Duncan we should be running away with this leauge
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: markecky on December 08, 2012, 11:56:27 PM
If Duncan was fit, and I think he was, then he should start every single home and most of the away ones unless there is a real tactical reason not too.

The current Greg Young, a shadow of the player we had at his peak, must have been concerned on the team bus that he was going to be against Duncan all afternoon.  I bet he was delighted when he saw him on the bench.

I thought Jordan Sinnott did pretty well today and he looks an accomplished player for a young lad but he should have started in the centre.

It was a frustrating day today, on another day we would have won it but it wasn't another day.

It is also not acceptable for Altrincham Football Club to play two consecutive games with 4 substitutes.  As a one off at a distant game with a late cry off can happen but for a home game we could involve one of the youth team lads even if he is last choice to bring on.  It might be alright at some club like Vauxhall where no more than 20 people care about the result, it's not acceptable here.

Couldn't fault the effort today, thought Dens and Clee played like demons but we handicapped ourselves from the start.  Wrong decision and it's cost us.


Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 09, 2012, 12:05:01 AM
Spot on eck all I'd disagree with is Watmore should start every game he is fit
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 09, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
If Duncan was fit, and I think he was, then he should start every single home and most of the away ones unless there is a real tactical reason not too.

The current Greg Young, a shadow of the player we had at his peak, must have been concerned on the team bus that he was going to be against Duncan all afternoon.  I bet he was delighted when he saw him on the bench.

I thought Jordan Sinnott did pretty well today and he looks an accomplished player for a young lad but he should have started in the centre.

It was a frustrating day today, on another day we would have won it but it wasn't another day.

It is also not acceptable for Altrincham Football Club to play two consecutive games with 4 substitutes.  As a one off at a distant game with a late cry off can happen but for a home game we could involve one of the youth team lads even if he is last choice to bring on.  It might be alright at some club like Vauxhall where no more than 20 people care about the result, it's not acceptable here.

Couldn't fault the effort today, thought Dens and Clee played like demons but we handicapped ourselves from the start.  Wrong decision and it's cost us.




Spot on, Ecky.

What a(nother) wasted opportunity that was yesterday against a very ordinary Gainsborough side.

As I'm not privileged enough to be privy to Duncan Watmore's medical records or how he might have trained last Thursday evening, I can only look forward to Mister Sinnott's ensuing explanation for his choice of starting XI against Gainsborough and the ostensibly bewildering omission of Watmore.

And the repeated failure to field a full quota of substitutes is, frankly, embarrassing.

That's seven defeats in 10 competitive fixtures at Moss Lane this season to date.

 




 





Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 09, 2012, 09:01:49 AM
If he was fit enough to come on, he was fit enough to start, why didn't we put the game to bed then tighten up? As would be normal.We went 0-4 up at Gainsborough not that long ago, when Duncan tore them too bits, youngy lasted 45 minutes and Gainsborough had to overhaul themselves at Half time but the damage was already done.Like it or not, we aren't good enough to drop our best player.Taking out the results against Hinckley and Histon which with every respect I'd think our youth team could give a game due to their current sad situations, we've won one home game against BPA.The supporters of this club are amongst the most patient in football I've ever come across, so when people do have valid reason to be upset, they shouldn't be shouted down.At £13 a pop and over 700 consistently still turning up, that is testament to that. I'll be amongst the 300+ sure to travel on Tuesday, but we need to put a run of wins together, its all well and good winning at Boston, but it counts for nothing if you then throw away a home game against an average outfit with bizarre team selections that don't include your best player.Ill always back the team and get to every game that I possibly can, but that yesterday was simply unacceptable, as was the fact none of the numerous youth players we have registered were named as a sub.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 09, 2012, 09:15:32 AM
I doubt 300 will go to droylsden maybe 200 but even 200 would be a good turn out
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 09, 2012, 11:26:41 AM
You'd be surprised, id expect 300 as its close and one of the few away games some people can get to. We've lost 4 of our last 6 league games and so Tuesday is pretty much a must win game.Droylsden is not a happy hunting ground for us, but we must put, what looks on paper a very poor side to the sword.And look to go to Brackley and win. We are doing the same as last year, "oh there's time yet" "it'll come together" then all of a sudden, we were mathematically out of it. And if we finish the season the way we finished the last one, we will be lucky to finish in the top ten.Pretty football is great to watch but I'd prefer a quick fire 15 points from 5 games regardless of how we play...
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 09, 2012, 11:35:59 AM
It worries me how we'll cope on that perennial pudding of a pitch at the Butchers Arms. Silky football is not necessarily going to be possible and we need to be ready for a real battle, which is what it will be, make no mistake!
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: JDN on December 09, 2012, 11:43:13 AM
It worries me how we'll cope on that perennial pudding of a pitch at the Butchers Arms. Silky football is not necessarily going to be possible and we need to be ready for a real battle, which is what it will be, make no mistake!
I think a defeat on Tuesday will be to much for some of us
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 09, 2012, 11:50:40 AM
I think Tuesday is an opportunity for us to show what we're about and whether we've got the stomach for a battle. It's not going to be pretty, but it's about coming home with the points above all else.

Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Mick on December 09, 2012, 01:29:39 PM
It's almost Christmas and 3 wins at home in a regional league is just not good enough - two of those wins were against teams that will be relegated in May.

Play-off contenders ? Who knows, but looking more unlikely as each week passes
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Hugo on December 09, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
We played really well yesterday but didn't show the required composure in front of goal. We were unlucky to lose but the weeks are passing us by and it feels as if the play off challenge is fading already. It's getting so frustrating because we have decent players but I agree with other posters that Duncan really has to start at home and I'm at a loss to explain why he didn't.

Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Ballers on December 09, 2012, 08:55:28 PM
Brooke had a better game than reeves today

I think that's your automatic defend Brooke and disagree with any criticism stand point coming out there.

Ryan dropped into the hole well but to little overall effect. Reeves had an excellent game holding the ball up and laying it off despite some rather rough treatment from their large centre halves.

Basically, he did the job I though Brooke was supposed to do and therefore had little chance to get into the box...
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 09, 2012, 10:29:38 PM
Brooke had a better game than reeves today

I think that's your automatic defend Brooke and disagree with any criticism stand point coming out there.

Ryan dropped into the hole well but to little overall effect. Reeves had an excellent game holding the ball up and laying it off despite some rather rough treatment from their large centre halves

Basically, he did the job I though Brooke was supposed to do and therefore had little chance to get into the box...




I don't recall defending brooke before and in fact don't rate him but felt he did ok yesyterday, reeves is the best finisher we have had for decades !
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 09, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
He gets in fair positions however touch is awfull
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: whopper on December 09, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
Brooke had a better game than reeves today

I think that's your automatic defend Brooke and disagree with any criticism stand point coming out there.

Ryan dropped into the hole well but to little overall effect. Reeves had an excellent game holding the ball up and laying it off despite some rather rough treatment from their large centre halves

Basically, he did the job I though Brooke was supposed to do and therefore had little chance to get into the box...




I don't recall defending brooke before and in fact don't rate him but felt he did ok yesyterday, reeves is the best finisher we have had for decades !
would say its between him and colin little
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: RocketDan on December 09, 2012, 11:48:25 PM
If Duncan wasn't fit then why risk playing him at all?

yes another bizarre selection from the manager.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: whopper on December 10, 2012, 10:15:15 AM
with Chester more than doubling our points total and 2nd place Guiseley nearly there too, our season is looking average....again! :(
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AFC56 on December 10, 2012, 11:53:36 AM
I think the other thing that is worth noting is that without Duncan in the side Reeves is no where near as effective.
Both Reeves goals against Boston were made by Duncan.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: ROBBIE1 on December 10, 2012, 12:31:36 PM
i thought he got the team selection totally wrong on saturday I was stood in the stand and thought he didnt looked interested in gaming the game back, leaving three of our best players on the bench for that long cost us the game, got to be looking for replacement so we can push for the promotion we derserve.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: fuertes on December 10, 2012, 01:00:03 PM
i thought he got the team selection totally wrong on saturday I was stood in the stand and thought he didnt looked interested in gaming the game back, leaving three of our best players on the bench for that long cost us the game, got to be looking for replacement so we can push for the promotion we derserve.

Yep, it's very likely the manager isn't interested. I doubt he cares one jot.

Can we please have more posts questioning levels of PASSION, since apparently that's all you need to be the next Mourinho or Messi?  ::)

His selection probably was an error. All human beings err from time to time, including managers of NL football teams. Next.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: JDN on December 10, 2012, 01:58:55 PM
i thought he got the team selection totally wrong on saturday I was stood in the stand and thought he didnt looked interested in gaming the game back, leaving three of our best players on the bench for that long cost us the game, got to be looking for replacement so we can push for the promotion we derserve.

Yep, it's very likely the manager isn't interested. I doubt he cares one jot.

Can we please have more posts questioning levels of PASSION, since apparently that's all you need to be the next Mourinho or Messi?  ::)

His selection probably was an error. All human beings err from time to time, including managers of NL football teams. Next.
this manager makes far to many errors

Your out of touch Banbury
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: fuertes on December 10, 2012, 02:13:34 PM
Maybe he does make too many errors. And as I've said before, if we get to the end of this season and can conclude firmly it's a second successive disappointment, then fair play, consider alternatives.

But it's ridiculous to claim that a manager making a mistake indicates he doesn't care.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: taxi Phil on December 10, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 10, 2012, 04:58:26 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 10, 2012, 05:02:24 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!

Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: whopper on December 10, 2012, 05:16:50 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!


also how are we better than last season? have you looked at the table?
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Hamilton on December 10, 2012, 06:12:28 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!


also how are we better than last season? have you looked at the table?

Have you looked at our cup results?
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: whopper on December 10, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!


also how are we better than last season? have you looked at the table?

Have you looked at our cup results?
yeah we beat a few sides at our level and below, great, but thats not our bread and butter
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 10, 2012, 07:02:03 PM
Maybe he does make too many errors. And as I've said before, if we get to the end of this season and can conclude firmly it's a second successive disappointment, then fair play, consider alternatives.

But it's ridiculous to claim that a manager making a mistake indicates he doesn't care.
In the time we our waiting for failure a better manager who is out of work may find another job
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 10, 2012, 07:07:43 PM
I feel we have better players than last season by some distance however team selection and poor tactics have us in a simalar position
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: fuertes on December 10, 2012, 07:35:50 PM
In the time we our waiting for failure a better manager who is out of work may find another job

Or an even better manager might become available...

Unless you're obsessed with the idea of appointing Gary Lowe (a man who resigned from the Hyde job because he didn't have the bottle to have a crack at the Conference on a small budget), you'd need to be clairvoyant to know the optimal time to change manager.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 10, 2012, 07:43:46 PM
In the time we our waiting for failure a better manager who is out of work may find another job

Or an even better manager might become available...

Unless you're obsessed with the idea of appointing Gary Lowe (a man who resigned from the Hyde job because he didn't have the bottle to have a crack at the Conference on a small budget), you'd need to be clairvoyant to know the optimal time to change manager.

How do you know what was said between the chairman and Gary Lowe? He might've been told he wasn't allowed to eat sausage rolls on the coach to away games. I work with Matty Blinkhorns dad who's currently at Hyde and there's a lot of interesting things I get to hear...
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Ballers on December 10, 2012, 07:47:01 PM
Do any of us know if Duncan was 100% fit today, how he trained on Thursday or any other reason why he may have chosen to start him on the bench? I would venture to suggest that the answer to that is a resounding NO!!

I've read some sh*t on here in my time but this is an absolute belter. Aside from the fact that Duncan looked ok as he skated past 4 players the first time he got the ball you're suggesting that how he trained on Thursday may have been a factor?

If Duncan Watmore trained so badly on Thursday that despite us only having 11 fit outfield players, including a loanee debutant, and the other 2 players who have played in his position (Richman and Lawrie) being unavailable/unfit to start to a standard that he could not get in the starting XI then the young lad needs his contract ripping up and taken outside to be shot - it would have been the worst training session in football history.

Taking the standpoint of devil's advocate does not mean you have to present such absolute rot and drivel!
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: JDN on December 10, 2012, 07:47:23 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!


disingenuous Taylor

Anything to happy clap

Credibility now nil
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: fuertes on December 10, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
How do you know what was said between the chairman and Gary Lowe? He might've been told he wasn't allowed to eat sausage rolls on the coach to away games. I work with Matty Blinkhorns dad who's currently at Hyde and there's a lot of interesting things I get to hear...

Obviously I don't. I'm just trying to make the point in the starkest terms possible that there's not necessarily a ready-made solution to our managerial situation.

And anyway, by your logic (and it's perfectly sound) we should probably hold back a bit in judging Sinnott. There may be things behind the scenes of which we are all unaware.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 10, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
How do you know what was said between the chairman and Gary Lowe? He might've been told he wasn't allowed to eat sausage rolls on the coach to away games. I work with Matty Blinkhorns dad who's currently at Hyde and there's a lot of interesting things I get to hear...

Obviously I don't. I'm just trying to make the point in the starkest terms possible that there's not necessarily a ready-made solution to our managerial situation.

And anyway, by your logic (and it's perfectly sound) we should probably hold back a bit in judging Sinnott. There may be things behind the scenes of which we are all unaware.

Very true
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: JDN on December 10, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
I feel we have better players than last season by some distance however team selection and poor tactics have us in a simalar position
team has gone forward, management has gone backwards
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Ballers on December 10, 2012, 07:57:24 PM
Maybe he does make too many errors. And as I've said before, if we get to the end of this season and can conclude firmly it's a second successive disappointment, then fair play, consider alternatives.

But it's ridiculous to claim that a manager making a mistake indicates he doesn't care.

I wouldn't go as far to say he doesn't care as it would be odd in the extreme if he wasn't bothered. However, what I would say is that Mr. Sinnott does not seem to realise what sort of football club he is at. I rather get the impression he thinks he is at a club like Farsley or Vauxhallor such like and he's here to get a side playing nice football and entertaining the hundred or so locals that may turn up.

He seems to have no concept of many of our supporters pride of our playing status in the BSP and the desperation I and many others have to get back to that level. Where was his desperation to haul us into the play off hunt - it wasn't apparent in his selection on Saturday.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 10, 2012, 08:01:32 PM
Maybe he does make too many errors. And as I've said before, if we get to the end of this season and can conclude firmly it's a second successive disappointment, then fair play, consider alternatives.

But it's ridiculous to claim that a manager making a mistake indicates he doesn't care.

I wouldn't go as far to say he doesn't care as it would be odd in the extreme if he wasn't bothered. However, what I would say is that Mr. Sinnott does not seem to realise what sort of football club he is at. I rather get the impression he thinks he is at a club like Farsley or Vauxhallor such like and he's here to get a side playing nice football and entertaining the hundred or so locals that may turn up.

He seems to have no concept of many of our supporters pride of our playing status in the BSP and the desperation I and many others have to get back to that level. Where was his desperation to haul us into the play off hunt - it wasn't apparent in his selection on Saturday.

I would put my house on the line and say if the game goes ahead tomorrow.. Watmore won't start again...
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: JDN on December 10, 2012, 08:03:37 PM
Maybe he does make too many errors. And as I've said before, if we get to the end of this season and can conclude firmly it's a second successive disappointment, then fair play, consider alternatives.

But it's ridiculous to claim that a manager making a mistake indicates he doesn't care.
out of touch Banbury
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 10, 2012, 08:38:46 PM
In the time we our waiting for failure a better manager who is out of work may find another job

Or an even better manager might become available...

Unless you're obsessed with the idea of appointing Gary Lowe (a man who resigned from the Hyde job because he didn't have the bottle to have a crack at the Conference on a small budget), you'd need to be clairvoyant to know the optimal time to change manager.
How do you no why he resigned In my opinion Sinnott should have gone last march when it was obvious we wouldn't make playoffs
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 10, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!



OK Mr Cult

To clarify

I am 100% in agreement with the fact that failure to start a particular player is not a sacking offence

Also I am 100% in agreement with the view that we are in a better state than last season and finally the onward and upward bit

You are correct in that I intimated that I would not have started Duncan on Saturday for the reasons I outlined to you then.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 10, 2012, 09:21:27 PM
Two of the "three best players" were coming back from injury. I'd have started Watmore, but Lee's failure to do so is hardly a sacking offence ! We were the better side, but had no luck at all. We are better than we were last season. Onwards and eventually upwards.

This 100%


Mister Taylor,

But you told me on Saturday that you wouldn't have started with Watmore, which rather contradicts the above...!


disingenuous Taylor

Anything to happy clap

Credibility now nil

If you took the time to read some of my historic posts you will see that i am far from happy clappy when there is valid reason to criticise rather than what some people have turned into a purely personal vendetta with absolutely no connection to the team whatsoever

I am entirely gutted that you now consider me to have no credibility - I may well go and open a vein
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: taxi Phil on December 10, 2012, 10:06:41 PM
Open a vino instead Phil. Makes much better sense.
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: Jimmy on December 10, 2012, 10:21:10 PM

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Unless you're obsessed with the idea of appointing Gary Lowe (a man who resigned from the Hyde job because he didn't have the bottle to have a crack at the Conference on a small budget), .
[/quote]yes it must be a smaller budget phil jevons won't cost much
Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on December 10, 2012, 11:55:33 PM
Do any of us know if Duncan was 100% fit today, how he trained on Thursday or any other reason why he may have chosen to start him on the bench? I would venture to suggest that the answer to that is a resounding NO!!

I've read some sh*t on here in my time but this is an absolute belter. Aside from the fact that Duncan looked ok as he skated past 4 players the first time he got the ball you're suggesting that how he trained on Thursday may have been a factor?

If Duncan Watmore trained so badly on Thursday that despite us only having 11 fit outfield players, including a loanee debutant, and the other 2 players who have played in his position (Richman and Lawrie) being unavailable/unfit to start to a standard that he could not get in the starting XI then the young lad needs his contract ripping up and taken outside to be shot - it would have been the worst training session in football history.

Taking the standpoint of devil's advocate does not mean you have to present such absolute rot and drivel!

Gareth

1) Where in my post are the words devils & advocate even alluded to, never mind use?

2) Historically you posted balanced opinion and, due to your having played at a higher level than me, I attached a bit of credence to those posts. Now sadly you seem to have become a little sad, bitter and twisted, posting mainly criticisms of the Club and then disrespectful / borderline abusive observations of the people who have the temerity to hold a different viewpoint.

I hope that you are soon able to resolve your own internal issues

Title: Re: Your hanging yourself Mr Sinnott
Post by: fuertes on December 11, 2012, 08:12:59 AM
I wouldn't go as far to say he doesn't care as it would be odd in the extreme if he wasn't bothered. However, what I would say is that Mr. Sinnott does not seem to realise what sort of football club he is at. I rather get the impression he thinks he is at a club like Farsley or Vauxhallor such like and he's here to get a side playing nice football and entertaining the hundred or so locals that may turn up.

He seems to have no concept of many of our supporters pride of our playing status in the BSP and the desperation I and many others have to get back to that level. Where was his desperation to haul us into the play off hunt - it wasn't apparent in his selection on Saturday.

To be fair, when he was at "a club like..." he got them three promotions, including up to the Conference. Obviously I wasn't an avid watcher of Farsley Celtic throughout the course of those years, but that record certainly suggests he takes progression up the pyramid every bit as seriously as developing a nice style of play.

I suspect it would be easier to get out of this division by signing up lots of big, strong, aggressive lads, getting them well-organised, then hoofing for 42 games. But that would probably see you relegated from the Conference the following season. If we can get up playing some good stuff as the likes of Wimbledon have done, perhaps we'll fare a bit better?

Dunno. As I say, I'm not particularly in love with Sinnott. But I think it's worth giving him a bit longer just yet. Surely we're better than Premier League numpties who don't give a manager a proper chance? We haven't bought into the cult of the sackfest, have we?