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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: ScoreDaws on April 29, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
do we have to go over this again?
Poor
Overall Grade - F
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What does the a mean ? Champions ,making the play offs or going up via the play offs ?
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
do we have to go over this again?
Poor
Overall Grade - F
No you didn't have to but you weren't going to miss an opportunity to slag off our manager were you.
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inconsistent. must try harder.
grade = C
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My honest opinion:
He's had a year to look at both the team and the standard of opposition, tried plenty of players, tactics and formations. Next season we need to hit the ground running and be there or there abouts early on, no excuses this time. We are still a big name in BSN and should be proud of it. Have it as Peter Kay would say.
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
do we have to go over this again?
Poor
Overall Grade - F
No you didn't have to but you weren't going to miss an opportunity to slag off our manager were you.
If you dont want a discussion about the abilities of our manager dont start threads about him
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Could and should have done better. Hopefully Lee will be more settled in more after the break and come back with a bang. The year for Lee to find his feet has now passed, it's time for results from the off in August.
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Not learning from his mistakes or improving our defence has made me lose faith in lee, in an ideal world we would of changed manager as soon as promotion was out of our reach to bed him in etc, not good enough D.
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
do we have to go over this again?
Poor
Overall Grade - F
No you didn't have to but you weren't going to miss an opportunity to slag off our manager were you.
If you dont want a discussion about the abilities of our manager dont start threads about him
Oh yes because your dismissive shrug of a first sentence and perfunctory second one made for a great contribution.
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
do we have to go over this again?
Poor
Overall Grade - F
No you didn't have to but you weren't going to miss an opportunity to slag off our manager were you.
If you dont want a discussion about the abilities of our manager dont start threads about him
Oh yes because your dismissive shrug of a first sentence and perfunctory second one made for a great contribution.
at least i was on topic
your only contribution has been to try and goad me into an argument
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Lee shows flashes of brilliance and great understanding at times. Some of the performances have been simply stunning, whilst others have been absolute garbage.Sometimes, he can flounder and not have the right solution to some problems presented. The majority of his colleagues are supportive with some excellent results he has had this season. Progressing to later stages of any cup competion was also a mjor concern and will need to be also addressed. Hopefully, with further funds being released shortly due to contracts expiring, he may have the money to secure his proven goalscorer, along with some further quality additions and the full backing of the management team.
Overall a satisfactory year, with some encouraging signs. There are some good foundations in place,and this is a vital year for Lee to go on to progress and achieve his full potential. Good Luck
Overall Grade-C+
Expected Grade -2012/13 A
do we have to go over this again?
Poor
Overall Grade - F
No you didn't have to but you weren't going to miss an opportunity to slag off our manager were you.
If you dont want a discussion about the abilities of our manager dont start threads about him
Oh yes because your dismissive shrug of a first sentence and perfunctory second one made for a great contribution.
at least i was on topic
your only contribution has been to try and goad me into an argument
Despite it being his first post on this thread!
the title of the thread is Managers end of year report 2011/12 neither his post or either of your two posts have been on topic
the only point in your posts is to create argument with me
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Come on then John, where has he fallen short? What did you expect and where can he improve? For the record, the first post is spot on- a season of mediocrity, more consistency next year and he will attain his target grade of an A- this season a solid C from me
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Come on then John, where has he fallen short? What did you expect and where can he improve? For the record, the first post is spot on- a season of mediocrity, more consistency next year and he will attain his target grade of an A- this season a solid C from me
Butty I was expecting a play off position - or at least to challenge for one
i have detailed my fears about the management before, so i don't think it will serve any purpose to go through them again now (it will only result in Clicky goading for argument again)
i hope we can be more consistent next season
for me to score 90 goals and only get 61 points is most certainly not a solid C
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If we'd got relegated what would you have given him ? Something in Cyrillic script because you'd run out of letters ? Bloody ridiculous.
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As per my old school, with the letter being ability and the number effort - I go for C3:
C - A manager of proven ability at this level, but unable to get the defence anything like sorted
3 - Some inspired moments countered by others where he did not seem to react.
Conclusion: OK, great promise at times, but room for improvement
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Have a shuftie at Barry Pikesley's excellent season review on JL's site.
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for me to score 90 goals and only get 61 points is most certainly not a solid C
On the other hand it's better than not scoring the 90 goals at all. Blame him for a shoddy defence, but credit for the attack is certainly due (which is what most people seem to think with the good and the bad cancelling out and giving him a C).
Could and should have done better. Hopefully Lee will be more settled in more after the break and come back with a bang. The year for Lee to find his feet has now passed, it's time for results from the off in August.
This.
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If you start a thread to grade the manager then please expect fans to grade him.
I too expected a play off position as a minimum and to be honest so did most other fans?
My concern would be the inability to manage the team to take points, we have thrown away so many games when in the lead. Good managers can structure their team on the field to defend when needed even if it is not pretty to watch. Even against the best in the world this can be done (Chelsea/Barca), just good discipline and structured defending.
I might give Lee a "C", but is "C" really good enough?
Yes we should expect "A" next season Like we did this!
Will we let our expectations slip like we did this year and except mediocrity?
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Genuine question:
Are people "accepting mediocrity" or are they simply accepting that we're not automatically entitled to be in the top 5 just because we're Alty?
I'm just as disappointed as anyone else by our failure to earn promotion and can't comment directly on most of our performances this season. However, it seems to me that there is a huge difference between being realistic and simply being happy with averageness.
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If we're concerned about running out of letters, I suggest we take a leaf out of credit rating agencies books.
I would award a BBB-, just worthy of further investment - but definitely under ongoing scrutiny.
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Positives
-Tries to play attractive football, lots of goals, seems to have got he best out of Reeves, giving youth teamers a chance.
Negatives
- Never truly in contention for a play off place (only in them for a week or so all season, 2 shambolic cup defeats - one away at a team from the league below, one at home to a team two leagues below (although not much worse then every other recent manager in this case), 27 games without a single clean sheet and only 3 all season, ridiculous amount of goals scored, some odd tactics at times
and most worryingly some appaling player recruitment, starting off with giving all of last seasons tripe the chance to stay, transfer wise only Redshaw, Lawrie and to an extent Flynn M could be said to have been upto scratch. This season's gone, I think it should have been better but as we can see, people have different views on that so it's where we go from here that counts and I'm not sure LS and NT have the contacts or nous to take us forward based on what I've seen.
I hope I'm wrong. However, if you look at the season like this I'm afraid I'm heading closer to John Crewe's F than the C's that others are suggesting.
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Genuine question:
Are people "accepting mediocrity" or are they simply accepting that we're not automatically entitled to be in the top 5 just because we're Alty?
I'm just as disappointed as anyone else by our failure to earn promotion and can't comment directly on most of our performances this season. However, it seems to me that there is a huge difference between being realistic and simply being happy with averageness.
The day we accept being mediocre is the day when we should shut the door. But I knew this season was going to be a tough one. After years of struggling at the bottom end of BSP, there had to be a rebuild period to get ourselves back in shape, losing the mentality of keeping teams out before attacking away from home (a mentality we needed as the season grew). The one major thing that LS got wrong was keeping most of the side that got relegated. By January/February, we had the only players that you would want to keep from last season (Coburn,Densmore,Clee,Reeves,and stuck with Twiss). but by then it was too late.
Though we haven't achieved to set out what we wanted to do this season, I feel we weren't a million miles away from what we wanted when you look at the teamsheet towards the end of the season. We have made some cracking signings going forward (Lawrie, Redshaw, Watmore), and during the summer if we sign similar standard defenders, we will be in a good position to challenge at the top.
As has been said, we need to get the ground running straight away. LS will be looking at potential signings now no doubt, but need to have the starting 11 ready for the 2nd or 3rd pre-season game so we can get as many wins as possible to start the season.
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Positives
-Tries to play attractive football, lots of goals, seems to have got he best out of Reeves, giving youth teamers a chance.
Negatives
- Never truly in contention for a play off place (only in them for a week or so all season, 2 shambolic cup defeats - one away at a team from the league below, one at home to a team two leagues below (although not much worse then every other recent manager in this case), 27 games without a single clean sheet and only 3 all season, ridiculous amount of goals scored, some odd tactics at times
and most worryingly some appaling player recruitment, starting off with giving all of last seasons tripe the chance to stay, transfer wise only Redshaw, Lawrie and to an extent Flynn M could be said to have been upto scratch. This season's gone, I think it should have been better but as we can see, people have different views on that so it's where we go from here that counts and I'm not sure LS and NT have the contacts or nous to take us forward based on what I've seen.
I hope I'm wrong. However, if you look at the season like this I'm afraid I'm heading closer to John Crewe's F than the C's that others are suggesting.
I wish it wasn't so but I find myself agreeing with this.
I've defended Lee all season and am inclined to continue to do so but there have been times where I just can't understand what he is thinking.
Overall I have to say there has been some very entertaining football which makes a change but it's been so frustrating knowing that with a tighter defence we could have had a real shot at promotion this year.
Highlight for me was the entertaining game of Vauxhall away lowlight was the ridiculous goals we've given away.