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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: RocketDan on April 29, 2012, 11:11:50 AM
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Shouting and Heckling a referee or assistant official over a bad decision is almost a given, but to imply the reason the decision was made incorrect was due to the gender of the official is non-sensical and unacceptable.
From my opinion it was offside and that she made a mistake, but mistakes happen in football by all linesmen and at all levels - not just the women. Personally, I think all the linesmen/assistant referees we have had this season have been of a similar standard of mediocrity - be them old, young, black, white, gay, straight, male or female.
Some of the abuse thrown at the women running our side yesterday was totally uncalled for. Baring in mind, the offence people took to Dennis Birch recently, I wonder what peoples reactions would be if a fan claimed the assistant was unable to do their job on the basis of skin colour?
I'd also like to point out the club could have stopped this sorry affair by allowing the majority of vocal fans to stand where they normally do which is not directly infront of a linesman.
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Shouting and Heckling a referee or assistant official over a bad decision is almost a given, but to imply the reason the decision was made incorrect was due to the gender of the official is non-sensical and unacceptable.
From my opinion it was offside and that she made a mistake, but mistakes happen in football by all linesmen and at all levels - not just the women. Personally, I think all the linesmen/assistant referees we have had this season have been of a similar standard of mediocrity - be them old, young, black, white, gay, straight, male or female.
Some of the abuse thrown at the women running our side yesterday was totally uncalled for. Baring in mind, the offence people took to Dennis Birch recently, I wonder what peoples reactions would be if a fan claimed the assistant was unable to do their job on the basis of skin colour?
I'd also like to point out the club could have stopped this sorry affair by allowing the majority of vocal fans to stand where they normally do which is not directly infront of a linesman.
This.
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Shouting and Heckling a referee or assistant official over a bad decision is almost a given, but to imply the reason the decision was made incorrect was due to the gender of the official is non-sensical and unacceptable.
From my opinion it was offside and that she made a mistake, but mistakes happen in football by all linesmen and at all levels - not just the women. Personally, I think all the linesmen/assistant referees we have had this season have been of a similar standard of mediocrity - be them old, young, black, white, gay, straight, male or female.
Some of the abuse thrown at the women running our side yesterday was totally uncalled for. Baring in mind, the offence people took to Dennis Birch recently, I wonder what peoples reactions would be if a fan claimed the assistant was unable to do their job on the basis of skin colour?
I'd also like to point out the club could have stopped this sorry affair by allowing the majority of vocal fans to stand where they normally do which is not directly infront of a linesman.
well said
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Indeed. I wonder how many of the people shouting sexist abuse (which wasn't funny, just embarrassing) thought it was right to eject Dennis Birch for his comments? In my opinion, yesterday's comments were just as bad, and the abuse-givers should also have been ejected. I also thought that the offside decision for the goal was correct, with the striker being in-line, not offside! So there...
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well said, I always thought we had good, honest, decent fans ( the majority are ) but sometimes one or two both in the ground and on the forum really let our club down.
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well said, I always thought we had good, honest, decent fans ( the majority are ) but sometimes one or two both in the ground and on the forum really let our club down.
I'm looking at you fatdog!
But seriously, it's not on at all, you wouldn't be laughing if it was your wife or daughter getting that kind of abuse, would you? Have a bit of respect.
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Stop teasing jamie
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I welcome female assistants and even refs at our level...as long as it doesn't affect the housework and their husbands don't mind....it adds interest to the game for me and good for them I say. In my experience I have never seen a consistently dreadful female official and the men have built up a pretty decent reputation as being truelly dreadful.
But if they want to officiate in front of what is almost certainly going to be a large bunch of men they are going to have to be able to take the stick that the male refs get...if they want equality then they should actually demand they are treated equally.
They are a different sex, that's why i love them, that is the reality and i live in the real world....but I'd like to think any comments passed about the official's sex are done in a gentlemanly well meant humorous way.....if that isn't too patronising on the fairer sex.
I do seem to remember an indian ref who took out his notebook to book a player, licked his pencil and the crowd started belting out orders for vindaloo and madras.....racist? almost certainly but it was genuinely meant in good humour and i remember the ref laughing his head off and seeing the funny side....
I'd think the ladies who take up officiating are made of stern stuff, fully prepared for a bit of stick and do not wish to be patronised.....and I'd love to see more of the ladies as long as they are the best man for the job.
The last time i saw a female assistant at moss lane she came to the net to examine the nets and was welcomed with applause....followed by wolf whistles....she also smiled and seemed to appreciate both...
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i think we should embrass women as linespersons and afterall it is 2012 , especially if they are topless
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i think we should embrass women as linespersons and afterall it is 2012 , especially if they are topless
Had to read that a few times as I thought it said "embarrass" as opposed to embrace :D
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Shouting and Heckling a referee or assistant official over a bad decision is almost a given, but to imply the reason the decision was made incorrect was due to the gender of the official is non-sensical and unacceptable.
From my opinion it was offside and that she made a mistake, but mistakes happen in football by all linesmen and at all levels - not just the women. Personally, I think all the linesmen/assistant referees we have had this season have been of a similar standard of mediocrity - be them old, young, black, white, gay, straight, male or female.
Some of the abuse thrown at the women running our side yesterday was totally uncalled for. Baring in mind, the offence people took to Dennis Birch recently, I wonder what peoples reactions would be if a fan claimed the assistant was unable to do their job on the basis of skin colour?
I'd also like to point out the club could have stopped this sorry affair by allowing the majority of vocal fans to stand where they normally do which is not directly infront of a linesman.
Or the ref could have put the assistants on the left-wings.
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Interesting postulation Ian, particularly from an official with experience of operating with assistants and familiar with the difficulties of running a different diagonal.
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Interesting postulation Ian, particularly from an official with experience of operating with assistants and familiar with the difficulties of running a different diagonal.
I agree with you ATS for once
it was onside
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So wrong to be overtly sexist re a wrong decision - especially as the vid shows the player looked onside.
Lets give the young lady the credit and respect she deserves - the tottie did good! ;)
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i think we should embrass women as linespersons and afterall it is 2012 , especially if they are topless
Had to read that a few times as I thought it said "embarrass" as opposed to embrace :D
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i think we should embrass women as linespersons and afterall it is 2012 , especially if they are topless
Had to read that a few times as I thought it said "embarrass" as opposed to embrace :D
OK point taken that will teach me to post quickly just before i pop out to the pub, Hands held up, i type like a Knob
if you want to make an issue of it, i am on the same continent at the moment and i have to say considering its spanish st augustine is fableoustastic
yer welcome is driving me feckin mad, how do you put up with it? i am stopping saying thank you............. awesome
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A women is getting married and asks her mother why do women wear white at their wedding,to which the reply was..its to show everyone they are still pure.
The groom asked his father the same question,why do women wear white at their wedding
to which his father replied,son dont you know all kitchen appliances come in white.
This was told by a female radio presenter before i get slated :D
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Interesting postulation Ian, particularly from an official with experience of operating with assistants and familiar with the difficulties of running a different diagonal.
I agree with you ATS for once
it was onside
I can't say for certain it was onside but there were a number of occasions just prior when Marlon Broomes was stood a few yards behind the rest of the back four (trying to compensate for lack of pace?) where they would've been onside. I thought it was onside, couldn't definately say, but there is a likelihood on balance of probabilities that it was.
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Interesting postulation Ian, particularly from an official with experience of operating with assistants and familiar with the difficulties of running a different diagonal.
My theory is that the assistant would have been protected more from the abuse. If you can give your lesser experienced assistant some protection you try and look after them. This is presuming the senior official is on the dugout side.
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I agree entirely Ian. My point is that you will know as well as anyone how hard it is to change your diagonal
Also we play at a level where Referees have to run outside rights.
If I had concerns about an Assistant in that scenario I might have thought of swopping them over and putting the object of my concern in front of the Family Stand