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Title: who would you say......
Post by: whopper on April 14, 2012, 10:37:14 PM
Altys best/worst managers of all time are
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Post by: whopper on April 14, 2012, 10:42:01 PM
Freddy pye/mark ward?
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Post by: im not really here on April 14, 2012, 10:42:25 PM
Either way Lee Sinnott is somewhere in the middle for now but has an opportunity to be one of the best.
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Post by: taxi Phil on April 14, 2012, 10:45:51 PM
Tony Sanders/Stan Allan
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Post by: Amsterdam Alty on April 14, 2012, 11:20:44 PM
Gleghorn kilkline?
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Post by: Toff Apple on April 15, 2012, 06:02:51 AM
worst - tommy doc
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Post by: SRT on April 15, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
Best -  Tont Sanders/ Worst - Mark Ward

Lee Sinnott certainly heading towards worst
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Post by: Jezza on April 15, 2012, 12:44:52 PM
best tony sanders....worst les rigby.
john king and tommy doc close seconds respectively.
at the moment lee is somewhere around the stan allen / mark ward level for me.....i think gerry quinn was a better manager.
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Post by: Bob on April 15, 2012, 01:26:32 PM
Surprised that Paul Rowlands hasn't had a mention.

Sanders is streets ahead of Kingy in my view.
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Post by: roytonmike on April 15, 2012, 01:40:38 PM
Best - Tony Sanders
Worst - Les Rigby
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Post by: York Alty on April 15, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
Tony Sanders

Tommy Docherty.  idiot of a man.
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Post by: John Crewe on April 15, 2012, 05:30:08 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
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Post by: whopper on April 15, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
agreed
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Post by: im not really here on April 15, 2012, 07:54:54 PM
Jacko, you started this post hoping someone would mention Lee Sinnott. I hate to be the one to break it to you but I don't think he's going anywhere.
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Post by: whopper on April 15, 2012, 08:02:43 PM
Jacko, you started this post hoping someone would mention Lee Sinnott. I hate to be the one to break it to you but I don't think he's going anywhere.
your a bad mind reader, i started this to see who people thought was the best/worst manager
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Post by: Nasha on April 15, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
In 18 years of watching Alty,I've seen 6 managers (King,Taylor,Ward,Heathcote,McKenna and Sinnott). I don't know if I could pick a best and worst out of them, all have strengths and weaknesses.

As for Sinnott being up there/on his way as one of the worst, people seem to have short memories. Yes, the defense situation has been farcical this season, but at times this season I have seen us play some of our best football for many years. I'm not saying he will become an Alty legend,but I wouldn't say he is the worst manager this club has had.
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Post by: markecky on April 15, 2012, 08:18:40 PM
Best has to be Tony Sanders that I know of.

Worst has to be Stan Allen - 13 consecutive defeats and I went to every one. Glad there was no forum then..
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Post by: whopper on April 15, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
In 18 years of watching Alty,I've seen 6 managers (King,Taylor,Ward,Heathcote,McKenna and Sinnott). I don't know if I could pick a best and worst out of them, all have strengths and weaknesses.

As for Sinnott being up there/on his way as one of the worst, people seem to have short memories. Yes, the defense situation has been farcical this season, but at times this season I have seen us play some of our best football for many years. I'm not saying he will become an Alty legend,but I wouldn't say he is the worst manager this club has had.
fair enough nasha, cant really say sinnott untill the end of the 2 year plan  ;D

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Post by: Bangor on Dee Robin on April 15, 2012, 08:35:29 PM
Based on my 20 years Heathcote (yes really, a good assistant especially) and the worst Kilkline who just couldn't be arsed. As for Mark Ward he got it wrong playing football in a swamp.
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on April 15, 2012, 08:52:46 PM
Brian Kilcline was joint coach with Nigel Gleghorn for the brief time he was with us. He was never our manager or assistant manager.
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Post by: taxi Phil on April 15, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Although Tommy Docherty appeared to be a poor manager in his time here, it shouldn't be forgotten that he was reponsible for the sell-on clause in the Paul Edwards transfer that made the club a lot of money.
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Post by: mikealty on April 15, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous
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Post by: John Crewe on April 15, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous
Ok Mike just my thinking

But as you disagree would you care to enlighten me, who was worse in your opinion?
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Post by: Ascot Alty on April 15, 2012, 10:02:07 PM
In 18 years of watching Alty,I've seen 6 managers (King,Taylor,Ward,Heathcote,McKenna and Sinnott). I don't know if I could pick a best and worst out of them, all have strengths and weaknesses.

As for Sinnott being up there/on his way as one of the worst, people seem to have short memories. Yes, the defense situation has been farcical this season, but at times this season I have seen us play some of our best football for many years. I'm not saying he will become an Alty legend,but I wouldn't say he is the worst manager this club has had.

Nasha, Kilcline and Gleghorn were so bad you've wiped them from memory!
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Post by: im not really here on April 15, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
As mentioned before Kilcline and Gleghorn were never managers. They were fist team coaches under Bernard Taylor.
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Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 15, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
Although Tommy Docherty appeared to be a poor manager in his time here, it shouldn't be forgotten that he was reponsible for the sell-on clause in the Paul Edwards transfer that made the club a lot of money.

Actually Phil it was the Secretary of Crewe who asked us whether we'd forgotten the sell on clause. Mr Docherty was reportedly on a speaking engagement on Scotland at the time
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Post by: CB on April 16, 2012, 08:58:17 AM
I agree that our defence has been a disgrace this season BUT our forward line has been absolutely brilliant, and we have played some fantastic football.

Sinnott can rightly be called for being unable to find non-calamity defenders, but the signings of James Lawrie and Jack Redshaw were first class.

Sinnott worst manager? Ridiculous. On the whole I have enjoyed this season and how anyone can say it has been worse than those dark days of the Unibond I'll never understand.
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on April 16, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
Maybe not our best manager, but I always felt Gerry Quinn's contribution (especially in his first season) was a little underrated. He not only got us to the FA Cup second round but the team he assembled contained a good few players who served the club well over many seasons.
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Post by: AltySi on April 16, 2012, 12:40:10 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous

Totally agree, ridiculous comments.
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Post by: whopper on April 16, 2012, 01:11:29 PM
He may end up being the best/worst no one can say which untill he has finished or got us promoted or wona cup game
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Post by: SRT on April 16, 2012, 05:17:13 PM
Sinnott certainly has his fans, from the BLIND school.

How can anyone possibly compare him with some of the GREAT managers we have had, he is technically inept compared with most.

We all have a right to free speech not to be shouted down when we rightly criticise the manager.

All we want is the best for AFC
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Post by: Robin Reliant on April 16, 2012, 05:30:10 PM
Best has to be Tony Sanders that I know of.

Worst has to be Stan Allen - 13 consecutive defeats and I went to every one. Glad there was no forum then..

Agree, don't count the Doc as one of our managers,because he didn;t. ;)
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Post by: Hamilton on April 16, 2012, 05:36:36 PM
Best has to be Tony Sanders that I know of.

Worst has to be Stan Allen - 13 consecutive defeats and I went to every one. Glad there was no forum then..

Agree, don't count the Doc as one of our managers,because he didn;t. ;)

I think it was more publicity stunt!

Best manager Sanders, worst Williams
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Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 16, 2012, 05:46:42 PM
Sinnott certainly has his fans, from the BLIND school.

How can anyone possibly compare him with some of the GREAT managers we have had, he is technically inept compared with most.

We all have a right to free speech not to be shouted down when we rightly criticise the manager.

All we want is the best for AFC

If you want the right to free speech, not to be shouted down as you put it, that's fine.

Might I respectfully suggest however that if you want to recieve the respect that you fell your views deserve then being so overtly disrespectful toward those who don't share your point of view by suggesting that they are blind may well not be the best way to get your wishes fulfilled
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Post by: CB on April 17, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
How can anyone possibly compare him with some of the GREAT managers we have had, he is technically inept compared with most.

Who's said he is one of the great managers??

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Post by: markecky on April 17, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
Sinnott certainly has his fans, from the BLIND school.

Are you 10?

Do you think anyone is putting him up there with the great managers really?
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Post by: JTH on April 17, 2012, 12:17:37 PM
Best - Tony Sanders
Worst - Les Rigby

Spot on - how to disassemble a winning side in one easy lesson. Dave Furnival anyone?

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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 17, 2012, 12:46:00 PM
Best - Tony Sanders
Worst - Les Rigby

Spot on - how to disassemble a winning side in one easy lesson. Dave Furnival anyone?



Indeed.

I'll see your Dave Furnival and raise you John Wood.....

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Post by: mikealty on April 17, 2012, 03:14:37 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous
Ok Mike just my thinking

But as you disagree would you care to enlighten me, who was worse in your opinion?
Not been supporting Alty long enough to really have an opinion on that, but come on, Lee's been here under a year and it's not like we're in a crisis or anything. Give him a chance that's all I'm saying
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Post by: taxi Phil on April 17, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
Best - Tony Sanders
Worst - Les Rigby

Spot on - how to disassemble a winning side in one easy lesson. Dave Furnival anyone?



Indeed.

I'll see your Dave Furnival and raise you John Wood.....


We'd have been better off with Victoria Wood in goal than that lemon !
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Post by: John Crewe on April 18, 2012, 09:27:14 AM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous
Ok Mike just my thinking

But as you disagree would you care to enlighten me, who was worse in your opinion?
Not been supporting Alty long enough to really have an opinion on that, but come on, Lee's been here under a year and it's not like we're in a crisis or anything. Give him a chance that's all I'm saying

ok, but for the record we are currently 8th in the table, if we finish the season 8th that will represent are 4th worst EVER position finish in the non league pyramid
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Post by: Nasha on April 18, 2012, 09:34:47 AM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous
Ok Mike just my thinking

But as you disagree would you care to enlighten me, who was worse in your opinion?
Not been supporting Alty long enough to really have an opinion on that, but come on, Lee's been here under a year and it's not like we're in a crisis or anything. Give him a chance that's all I'm saying

ok, but for the record we are currently 8th in the table, if we finish the season 8th that will represent are 4th worst EVER position finish in the non league pyramid

And who was in charge for those seasons where we finished below 8th? A certain Graham Heathcote,who I'm sure isn't the worst manager this club has had.

Stats don't tell the whole story.
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Post by: John Crewe on April 22, 2012, 09:26:52 PM
best - Pye/Sanders

worst - Sinnott/Williams
To say that Sinnott is one of our worst ever managers after this long is completely ridiculous
Ok Mike just my thinking

But as you disagree would you care to enlighten me, who was worse in your opinion?
Not been supporting Alty long enough to really have an opinion on that, but come on, Lee's been here under a year and it's not like we're in a crisis or anything. Give him a chance that's all I'm saying

ok, but for the record we are currently 8th in the table, if we finish the season 8th that will represent are 4th worst EVER position finish in the non league pyramid

And who was in charge for those seasons where we finished below 8th? A certain Graham Heathcote,who I'm sure isn't the worst manager this club has had.

Stats don't tell the whole story.

of course stats dont tell the whole story

we all well aware of problems we had in the unibond years

but what about now? which stats are not reflective now? have we defended better than the goals against column suggests?
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Post by: whopper on November 28, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
BEST THREAD OF ALL TIME  :D
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Post by: Mount Street Alty on November 28, 2012, 05:14:27 PM
Lee Sinnott
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Post by: Kingys Beard on November 28, 2012, 05:29:42 PM
Can I put in a word for Roy Rees?  Really liked him - along with Sanders, King and Pye.
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Post by: Toff Apple on November 28, 2012, 05:54:58 PM
Best -Bernard T - just really liked him and he liked the fans too.

worst - kingy - at the end
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Post by: Jimmy on November 28, 2012, 06:16:55 PM
Sanders however I never saw a team managed by him so it would be kingy best tommy doc worst as for the last post Bernard was poor at the end when they didn't pay the team the ridiculous wages
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Post by: anglo alty on November 28, 2012, 06:31:38 PM
best managers pye,sanders,king and heathcote all were great for Alty. worst docherty(publicity stunt) Davies (ex Mac nuff said) Gleghorn and Ward
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Post by: im not really here on November 29, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Nigel Gleghorn has never been an Alty manager. The Taylor years were certainly my best time as an Alty supporter from the Chesterfield cup final, the promotion season including 2 that crazy weekend when we won the league and his infamous birthday party. He was also a top bloke. The worst I have seen would be McKenna.