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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on April 09, 2012, 11:40:55 PM
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At Chester v northwich today, we've missed a huge chance this season in a league poor in quality and financial clout.Chester,Kettering and Darlington to come next year.With a the possibility of big spending Chorley or FCUM. We needed to hit the ground running after last season, that's a minimum we should have expected.The excuses about budgets and sugar daddys and not being able to compete will probably get trotted out on here again.But weve not even looked likely this year.I don't care how big somebody's social club or lottery is, Altrincham football club being patted on the head by Hyde united and Guiseley is not acceptable.Not now and Not in the future.
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We should have a bigger budget next year and a manager who has gained another years experience and familiarity at this level after his break from management.
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This is what i think fans dont realise, its going to be so much harder next season and its worrying
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I hear what you are saying pete, but what are you actually suggesting we do? Sacking our manager will involve paying a large amount of compensation and jeopardise our budget for next season.
I think a few fans on here need to wake up and smell the coffee. we are a small club in a small league, that is living off past glories. What has Altrincham FC actually achieved in the past 20 years? Not a lot. This season we are just as close to the relegation zone as we are to the play offs, and quite frankly, i am expecting us to be here for another 5 seasons.
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I hear what you are saying pete, but what are you actually suggesting we do? Sacking our manager will involve paying a large amount of compensation and jeopardise our budget for next season.
I think a few fans on here need to wake up and smell the coffee. we are a small club in a small league, that is living off past glories. What has Altrincham FC actually achieved in the past 20 years? Not a lot. This season we are just as close to the relegation zone as we are to the play offs, and quite frankly, i am expecting us to be here for another 5 seasons.
Have you got about ten personalities or just permanently on a windup?
Are we now to write off the next 5 seasons?
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This is what i think fans dont realise, its going to be so much harder next season and its worrying
Hopefully the fans will be educated by the experts on here so they won't need to worry.
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I hear what you are saying pete, but what are you actually suggesting we do? Sacking our manager will involve paying a large amount of compensation and jeopardise our budget for next season.
I think a few fans on here need to wake up and smell the coffee. we are a small club in a small league, that is living off past glories. What has Altrincham FC actually achieved in the past 20 years? Not a lot. This season we are just as close to the relegation zone as we are to the play offs, and quite frankly, i am expecting us to be here for another 5 seasons.
i think were a bit better than that dan, are we as small as vauxhall mitors and corby?
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I hear what you are saying pete, but what are you actually suggesting we do? Sacking our manager will involve paying a large amount of compensation and jeopardise our budget for next season.
I think a few fans on here need to wake up and smell the coffee. we are a small club in a small league, that is living off past glories. What has Altrincham FC actually achieved in the past 20 years? Not a lot. This season we are just as close to the relegation zone as we are to the play offs, and quite frankly, i am expecting us to be here for another 5 seasons.
We're a bigger club than at least 20 other clubs in this league,and a good number in the league above, and some in the league above that. And what have lots of nonleague clubs done in the last 20 years? There's not that much up for grabs honours wise.
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i think were a bit better than that dan, are we as small as vauxhall mitors and corby?
Nottingham Forest are a bigger club than Wigan and Leeds are a bigger club than Swansea.
My point is size and history is irrelevant - we have to stop thinking that, because of our history and "size", we should be challenging for the title and accept that with out budget and our playing staff mid-table is the best we can hope for. If Droylsden win their game in hand, they will leapfrog us in the table, we will be in 9th place on merit.
sorry to bring this dose of depression to the forum, i'm not a trying to be a windup merchant or a pessimist, i'm just being realistic.
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The day we go with the approach/mindset that we aren't capable of winning the northern premier league we might as well call it a day....
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Are we now to write off the next 5 seasons?
Not saying we should write them off, I'm just telling the optimists on here not expect too much.
Anything better than mid-table next season will be a bonus in my eyes.
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Have we been making progress? Are we playing good football? are we getting results? If not why is everyone content?
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Have we been making progress? Are we playing good football? are we getting results? If not why is everyone content?
Some, some, some and expectation (in my case).
This season I expected us to be competitive, but probably not quite play off level yet. I do wholly expect us to be right up there next season.
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Sacking our manager will involve paying a large amount of compensation and jeopardise our budget for next season.
I genuinely don't know the answer to this question.....but is Lee Sinnott actually working under a contract and, if so, what is its duration?
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Have we been making progress? Are we playing good football? are we getting results? If not why is everyone content?
We played some great football today (Twiss was a part of it as well, imagine that).
Not sure many people are content.
We have spent the season on the edge of the playoffs and each time we have been close to getting in we have shot ourselves in the foot, usually with defensive howlers.
For me ripping it up and starting again is not the answer. I still believe we have a chance of keeping Reevesy and I think Sinnott is an integral part of that.
The players worked their arses today and I doubt they would have done that for a manager they didn't like as I doubt there were many that thought we'd beat Guiseley away and if they would have jacked it and lost 3-0 it would have been expected.
Sad thing for me is that with just one or two different results the season would look very different and there would not be such extreme posting.
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I honestly am not worried about Kettering, and am not sure Darlington are much of a threat.
Let's focus on getting our own house in order, and then piss this tinpot league...
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I watched Chester v Vics today. Chester should have won 5-1. Vics had one attack and scored. I think Guiseley and Hyde are better sides than Chester at the moment. I was more impressed with Witton's 5-0 demolition of Warrington Town, which I watched in the evening.
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I honestly am not worried about Kettering, and am not sure Darlington are much of a threat.
Let's focus on getting our own house in order, and then piss this tinpot league...
Indeed. Kettering are another Northants footballing basket case and god knows what Darlo will look like come August. I'd have been more bothered if traditional clubs who know what this level is about such as Barrow or Southport had come down. Chester admittedly is a different case altogether, they should go straight through.
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If we're bigger than some Football League clubs, why are we worrying about the basket cases that are Darlington and Kettering? We can't control how other clubs are run - let's focus on us.
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If we're bigger than some Football League clubs, why are we worrying about the basket cases that are Darlington and Kettering? We can't control how other clubs are run - let's focus on us.
I don't rule out the possibility that one or both of these clubs could fold in the summer, giving an AGM cup reprieve to the 20th club in our league (Histon ?) and possibly Blyth Spartans as well.
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Think its time for Rocket Dan/Daycare Dan/Dan Dare to catch a rocket, hopefully to the moon, does he even go to the games anymore?
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Think its time for Rocket Dan/Daycare Dan/Dan Dare to catch a rocket, hopefully to the moon, does he even go to the games anymore?
I think you have me confused with someone else, i'm the first one.
By my reckoning i've been to 15 home games and 8 away games this season - so yes I do get to my fair share of games (although admittedly i didn't bother with Guiesely). At times we have played some very good stuff, but we have been very inconsistent and have been undone by tactically naivety from Sinnott and poor levels of concentration and defending. This season has been one step forward, two steps back.
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In all honesty, I really thought we would be up there challenging this year. That's the optimist in me though, and also a massive dose of naivety as I didn't realise how difficult this league is, being 'newer' (5 years in) in my Alty allegiance.
I don't think it is being "too optimistic" to expect the team to improve on finishing 8th/9th next season... if we had developed a central defensive partnership and if just a couple of results had gone differently we would be right in the middle of it now... I don't think its crazy to talk about a playoff push next year?!
Yes, the Reeves issue is hanging over us, and we all want to hear the magic words that he is staying, but I'm confident that the Club and Manager are doing all that they can to make that happen.
I for one am excited about next season, and looking forward to seeing who the Manager brings in.
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How do you judge a big club?
On attendance, former glories, ground size, playing budget, wages paid, stoppers, toilet facilities, lottery, blah blah blah f**king blah.
We're up there, but by no means a given for the title. Still I think we are entitled to expect a challenge. We're big enough to compete so nothing else matters.
And can we stop berating the manager cos he had two years off, it means f**k all 9 months in, he should have shaken the rust off by now. If thats the excuse then we should never have given him the job. If the excuse is that it was a 2 year plan and we now have a good footing to sign 7 or 8 players that will improve us by 15-25 points next season then im happy.
Mybe we just need the club to communicate LS's feeling on his 'plan' a bit more often instead of media friendly responses to repeatedly underacieving performances.
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Due to work/family commitments I have not been able to attend as many matches as I would have liked this season, but I can see that LS is slowly beginning to put his own side together. I honestly believe that this season we have been just one centre back away from getting into the playoffs, so we shouldn't be too disheartened. True, 20 odd games without a clean sheet is very difficult to justify (particularly with an ex-pro defender as our manager) and some of the substitution decisions against FC United were abysmal, but I too believe that LS will get it right next season. If we keep Reevsey and sign an Earl Davis or a Greg Young at centre half we'll be just fine. In my opinion it is a mediocre league and our games v Hyde and Guiseley surely confirm this and of the teams coming into the league next season (Chester excepted) we should not worry too much. We must stand together, keep the attendances up and support the manager completely.
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5,009 for arguabally the biggest game in their history...
money doesnt equal success - to win this league you need consitency, luck and a decent defence
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5,009 for arguabally the biggest game in their history...
money doesnt equal success - to win this league you need consitency, luck and a decent defence
hyde have got a better manager and younger faster and more talented players with a better brand of football, ps is that pic of twissy warming up? ;)
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I watched Chester v Vics today. Chester should have won 5-1. Vics had one attack and scored.
Don't know what game you were watching. 1-1 was a fair result, Vics were on top until Chester made their subs and we went down to 10 men. Chester will be a threat to the BSN purely on size and budget and their obvious attraction for the top players.
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I watched Chester v Vics today. Chester should have won 5-1. Vics had one attack and scored.
Don't know what game you were watching. 1-1 was a fair result, Vics were on top until Chester made their subs and we went down to 10 men. Chester will be a threat to the BSN purely on size and budget and their obvious attraction for the top players.
Chester had 2 shots cleared off the line and 2 other chances and Michael Wilde should have won them the game in injury time. The Vics came for a point and nearly got the win. If Witton had played the Vics yesterday Witton would have torn Northwich apart.
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5,009 for arguabally the biggest game in their history...
money doesnt equal success - to win this league you need consitency, luck and a decent defence
Chester city are a league one club, regardless of what they are called this week, and will more than likely piss the conference north next season
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5,009 for arguabally the biggest game in their history...
money doesnt equal success - to win this league you need consitency, luck and a decent defence
Chester city are a league one club, regardless of what they are called this week, and will more than likely piss the conference north next season
Theres no doubt they have the most financial clout to do it, and should piss the league
(hopefully they wont be favorites the bookies though..)
But theres a HUGE difference between able to, and actually doing it....
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5,009 for arguabally the biggest game in their history...
money doesnt equal success - to win this league you need consitency, luck and a decent defence
Chester city are a league one club, regardless of what they are called this week, and will more than likely piss the conference north next season
Theres no doubt they have the most financial clout to do it, and should piss the league
(hopefully they wont be favorites the bookies though..)
But theres a HUGE difference between able to, and actually doing it....
As Halifax have found out this season
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On the other hand, Fleetwood are about to do it.
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On the other hand, Fleetwood are about to do it.
Good place to look at a few cast offs during the summer.
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Yes we need to shore up the defence etc etc but it's not as easy as just saying it otherwise we would all be top of the league
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vUwQZe_10&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vUwQZe_10&feature=youtu.be)
not a bad finish to secure automatic promotion
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vUwQZe_10&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vUwQZe_10&feature=youtu.be)
not a bad finish to secure automatic promotion
You could have warned us about the gratuitous arse crack.