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Title: Dennis Birch
Post by: wayno on March 24, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Fruitcake end of
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: RocketDan on March 24, 2012, 05:25:55 PM
Hopefully that will be the last time we see this vile and repugnant individual at Moss lane.

I don't know what he said, but if it was serious enough to stop the game, he should be banned for life.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: wayno on March 24, 2012, 05:26:23 PM
Total maniac
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Knutsford Alty on March 24, 2012, 05:31:04 PM
For those not there, what did he say whilst frothing at the mouth?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Hale Alty on March 24, 2012, 05:33:20 PM
"Come on Altrincham. Play up, and play the game!"
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Knutsford Alty on March 24, 2012, 05:37:31 PM
Quote
"Come on Altrincham. Play up, and play the game!"

get your subs on bernard
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: markecky on March 24, 2012, 05:40:23 PM
Seems pretty obvious to everyone that his continued abuse of players extended to racist abuse.  How bad was it that the players stopped in shock and the referee had to get involved.

Let's hope one man isn't allowed to drag the name of Altrincham Football Club through the mud.

Why he hasn't been banned years ago is disgusting.  If you're going to let him in then you need a steward stood behind him.  It's like we're scared to take action.

Its shameful that he has been allowed to do this.  Shameful.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: markecky on March 24, 2012, 05:43:51 PM
Seems pretty obvious to everyone that his continued abuse of players extended to racist abuse.  How bad was it that the players stopped in shock and the referee had to get involved.

Let's hope one man isn't allowed to drag the name of Altrincham Football Club through the mud.

Why he hasn't been banned years ago is disgusting.  If you're going to let him in then you need a steward stood behind him.  It's like we're scared to take action.  He is agressive and confrontational every single match and has now plumbed new depths.

At least he won't have been able to scream in any Solihull fans faces in the bar at the end.

Its shameful that he has been allowed to do this.  Shameful.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Knutsford Alty on March 24, 2012, 05:44:20 PM
Ecky, having not been to the game today, it sounds like he has crossed the line today.

How difficult is it for the club to ban someone from entering the ground?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: joe on March 24, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
If it was racist abuse he should be banned for life and the police informed.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: im not really here on March 24, 2012, 05:44:41 PM
To be fair if a fan needs his own personal steward then somebody somewhere should realise there is a problem. The board need to make a stand and ban him immediately otherwise the proud name of Altrincham FC will be ruined.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Bob on March 24, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
If it was racist abuse he should be banned for life and the police informed.

Agree 100%
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: York Alty on March 24, 2012, 05:50:14 PM
NOt at the game and just got in.

His behaviour has been rotten for many seasons now, if he has crossed a liine today then lets just get rid of him.  Very rare we don't want people coming to Moss lane but losing this bloke is well worth t.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: whopper on March 24, 2012, 05:51:19 PM
Illness is no excuse for his disgusting ways
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Jezza on March 24, 2012, 05:52:25 PM
Ecky I made the point that a steward should be right behind him a few months ago.....you disagreed saying if it's that bad then he shouldn't be allowed in in the first place.

maybe we were both right  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Robin Reliant on March 24, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
Reported on Radio Robins and JL's updates that " an Altrincham fan" had been removed.
Didn't take much to guess who it was

Time for action

Red Card = 3 match ban, which takes us to the end of the season for home games.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: markecky on March 24, 2012, 05:55:04 PM
If it was racist abuse he should be banned for life and the police informed.

Quite right.  He should be arrested and banned for life and made an example of.

Being old or potty is not an excuse for his behaviour.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Hugo on March 24, 2012, 05:57:02 PM
I do know what was said and I won't repeat it on here. What I will say though is that this is a social problem and not a football problem. It shames me that fellow humans can be so ignorant and it would be a crying shame if the good name of Alty FC should be associated with such nonsense.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: erimus on March 24, 2012, 06:01:30 PM
When I got to the bus station after the game Dennis was mouthing off at the driver of the 370 who was trying to tell a bloke which bus he needed to catch to Cheadle. Good job he was white otherwise Dennis might have continued with his racist comments
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Bob on March 24, 2012, 06:09:04 PM
Reported on Radio Robins and JL's updates that " an Altrincham fan" had been removed.
Didn't take much to guess who it was

Time for action

Red Card = 3 match ban, which takes us to the end of the season for home games.

Banned to the end of the season? If it was racism it should be a lifetime ban, nothing less.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: bumble on March 24, 2012, 06:57:21 PM
Ive never known a ref run across the pitch and ask a steward to sort something out

If what is reported to been have said, is true then a lifetime ban should be in place


If he spents £8 to get in, and a futher £5 inside.... thats £13

im sure plenty of people would give to make up the £13 (or whatever he spends) that would be lost by banning him.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Eatmygoal on March 24, 2012, 07:24:37 PM
If it was racial abuse, then the bugger needs to be banned. In fact, he should be band anyway. His rants are counter productive and for him to result to racial abuse is shameful. The stupid sod doesn't just humiliate himself, but also puts Alty in danger of having a bad rep for his kind of senseless, pathetic, sh*tty comments.

I was there. Really angry that the game had to stop for him. What a wanker.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on March 24, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
Ban Dennis and while we're at it, ban Dave Birch as well. I'm willing to bet that people have decided against coming back to the club in the past because of their offensive and racist behaviour. Dave Birch was ejected from Tamworth a few years ago for being racist. It's time we banned them both permanantly, we don't want people like this at our club.

Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: mikealty on March 24, 2012, 08:05:28 PM
Trying my best to resist the temptation to say vile things about this man on here.
The fact I could hear his foul mouth all the way at the end ot the Pop Side makes it even worse. His abuse has been so blatant and loud all season it's unbelievable nothing has been done until now!
He truly crossed the line today,  ban the nutter for life.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: fuertes on March 24, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
A generally unpleasant manner is bad enough, but shouting incontrovertibly racist abuse at players is utterly disgusting.

Ban this man for life.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 24, 2012, 08:39:53 PM
In response to the calls for a Steward to be located in the vicinity of the person in question I can advise that this has happened a good number of times going back to when I was Safety Officer.

Bizarrely when he has his own steward in attendance he doesn't actually ever say anything and on some other occasions over time when it has been alleged that he has transgressed nobody has actually reported it or been willing to give evidence. Today however fortunately a number of people have indicated their willingness to testify as to his misdeeds
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: robins1978 on March 24, 2012, 08:50:31 PM
Its sad its taken an incident like this for things to come to a head with this individual. I wonder was he told why and did he understand why he was being ejected? Was there any conversation with the stewards who had to eject him? If it was bad enough to be ejected it was probably racial, which is not the sort of action we as a club want to be connected with. If it was racial I feel the club only have 1 option now and that is to ban him for life. Last weekend a player nearly lost his life (get well soon Fabrice) playing this game. There is no place for racism of any kind in this world or our club. Please dont come back Dennis. You pay your money and have the ability to have a say to a certain extent on proceedings, but NOT LIKE THIS - THIS IS JUST WRONG AND THATS IT.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 24, 2012, 08:58:57 PM
I would suggest that he probably had an idea what he had done because as soon as the Moors Player stopped he moved back from the fence and started to try to move away from the area
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on March 24, 2012, 09:25:09 PM
In response to the calls for a Steward to be located in the vicinity of the person in question I can advise that this has happened a good number of times going back to when I was Safety Officer.

Bizarrely when he has his own steward in attendance he doesn't actually ever say anything and on some other occasions over time when it has been alleged that he has transgressed nobody has actually reported it or been willing to give evidence. Today however fortunately a number of people have indicated their willingness to testify as to his misdeeds

I don't believe this is true and unless I'm totally losing the plot I'm sure I've read on here of folk writing to the club about him. In any case, it's not like his behaviour is unknown to the club, every man and his dog whose ever been to Moss Lane knows about him....it should never have had to come to this.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: party boy on March 24, 2012, 10:13:27 PM
Lets hope we never see him at alty again. Racists are vile scum and i will not be bringing my wife or child to moss lane if he is not given a life ban.. I am proud to be an alty fan and we all need to stand up against this.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on March 24, 2012, 11:30:52 PM
In response to the calls for a Steward to be located in the vicinity of the person in question I can advise that this has happened a good number of times going back to when I was Safety Officer.

Bizarrely when he has his own steward in attendance he doesn't actually ever say anything and on some other occasions over time when it has been alleged that he has transgressed nobody has actually reported it or been willing to give evidence. Today however fortunately a number of people have indicated their willingness to testify as to his misdeeds

I don't believe this is true and unless I'm totally losing the plot I'm sure I've read on here of folk writing to the club about him. In any case, it's not like his behaviour is unknown to the club, every man and his dog whose ever been to Moss Lane knows about him....it should never have had to come to this.

It is true. I speak of the times when complaints have been made by opposition supporters or players. Nobody has 'heard anything'

I would refer you to the time when I personally had to physically remove him from Tamworth. Only the Tamworth Steward heard what both him and his brother shouted
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 25, 2012, 12:39:51 AM
A bloke who is very messed up I blame the parents
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: taxi Phil on March 25, 2012, 07:40:38 AM
In response to the calls for a Steward to be located in the vicinity of the person in question I can advise that this has happened a good number of times going back to when I was Safety Officer.

Bizarrely when he has his own steward in attendance he doesn't actually ever say anything and on some other occasions over time when it has been alleged that he has transgressed nobody has actually reported it or been willing to give evidence. Today however fortunately a number of people have indicated their willingness to testify as to his misdeeds

I don't believe this is true and unless I'm totally losing the plot I'm sure I've read on here of folk writing to the club about him. In any case, it's not like his behaviour is unknown to the club, every man and his dog whose ever been to Moss Lane knows about him....it should never have had to come to this.
You may be confusing this with the occasion last season when both Distance Traveller and myself complained about his brother, and the club didn't respond to our concerns. Not sure whether Dennis has been the subject of formal complaints before. I actually talked a copper out of nicking him at Forest Green a few seasons ago when he threw a plastic cup at the referee's assistant, and he calmed down for the rest of that particular match.

I still think his brother is the bigger problem, but he's not been around lately thank goodness.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2012, 08:17:28 AM
I congratulate Solihull's common sense approach to the matter. Common sense is a commodity in very short supply in football.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Derek Stubbs on March 25, 2012, 09:36:25 AM
I congratulate Solihull's common sense approach to the matter. Common sense is a commodity in very short supply in football.

As Michael Holding (ex West Indies ) always says..

"common sense as not all that common these days"

Is Dennis banned from away grounds or is it just Moss Lane ?

If not, i suspect he will still go the away games which could be a problem although i guess he would be banned from using the
away travel coaches.

Perhaps the FA should be informed so he gets banned from ALL grounds if that has not already happened although i think you have to have
been convicted of something for the ALL grounds ban comes into force.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: celica7man on March 25, 2012, 12:05:14 PM
Having been stood three persons from Dennis, there was no doubt that, after abusing an alty fan behind him he then vented his anger on not only half of the Solihull team but then to RACIALLY ABUSE the Solihull number 7.  He must not be allowed to do that ever again. He has dragged Alty's good name down to a place it does not deserve.  Ban him permanantly.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: GoneFishing on March 25, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
Is this the first time Alty have banned one of their own fans?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on March 25, 2012, 12:59:36 PM
Is this the first time Alty have banned one of their own fans?

No, I think a guy called Steve Mountfield got banned a few years back for being racist.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 25, 2012, 01:32:15 PM
What's happened to david birch ?banned or just stopped going ?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on March 25, 2012, 01:47:53 PM
What's happened to david birch ?banned or just stopped going ?

He goes in the main stand sometimes.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Mick on March 25, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
Lets hope we never see him at alty again. Racists are vile scum and i will not be bringing my wife or child to moss lane if he is not given a life ban.. I am proud to be an alty fan and we all need to stand up against this.

He has been banned.....you can come to Moss Lane again
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 25, 2012, 03:15:20 PM

Has anyone informed Jason Gallagher that it's now safe for him to come back to Moss Lane...?



Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on March 25, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
In response to the calls for a Steward to be located in the vicinity of the person in question I can advise that this has happened a good number of times going back to when I was Safety Officer.

Bizarrely when he has his own steward in attendance he doesn't actually ever say anything and on some other occasions over time when it has been alleged that he has transgressed nobody has actually reported it or been willing to give evidence. Today however fortunately a number of people have indicated their willingness to testify as to his misdeeds

I don't believe this is true and unless I'm totally losing the plot I'm sure I've read on here of folk writing to the club about him. In any case, it's not like his behaviour is unknown to the club, every man and his dog whose ever been to Moss Lane knows about him....it should never have had to come to this.
You may be confusing this with the occasion last season when both Distance Traveller and myself complained about his brother, and the club didn't respond to our concerns. Not sure whether Dennis has been the subject of formal complaints before. I actually talked a copper out of nicking him at Forest Green a few seasons ago when he threw a plastic cup at the referee's assistant, and he calmed down for the rest of that particular match.

I still think his brother is the bigger problem, but he's not been around lately thank goodness.

Indeed I was. Thank you for clarifying. They are one and the same problem though really. They fell from the same abusive tree.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on March 25, 2012, 04:13:34 PM
It is true. I speak of the times when complaints have been made by opposition supporters or players. Nobody has 'heard anything'

I would refer you to the time when I personally had to physically remove him from Tamworth. Only the Tamworth Steward heard what both him and his brother shouted

Apologies Phil, taxi Phil has cleared that one up for me. I still find it hard to believe that nobody would be prepared to speak against either brother though. It's far from the first time their behaviour has been discussed on here.

Anyway, if they have been banned then the matter can be put to bed. Ignorance is never an excuse for abuse.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: AltyFanInNottm on March 25, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
It's ironic that this should have happened yesterday, as we had a discussion after the Solihull away game on Dennis's behaviour. At the away game he nearly started a one man riot when he went verbals with a Moors fan.

It's a shame his volumus voice and energy couldn't have been harnessed for the good of Alty, as his passion for and knowledge of Alty seems quite high. And I'd noticed that he seems very reasonable and calm before the matches.

There is no room for racism in the modern world, so his exclusion is obviously correct.

Can he be "rehabilitated"?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on March 26, 2012, 11:57:24 PM
Can he be "rehabilitated"?

They tried to make him go to rehab,
He said f*&%, p***, C*&%......
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: JTH on March 27, 2012, 12:52:47 AM
Can he be "rehabilitated"?

They tried to make him go to rehab,
He said f*&%, p***, C*&%......

top drawer
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Eatmygoal on March 27, 2012, 08:18:36 AM
In relation to  Altrincham football club Community sports limited, I nominate Dennis Birch for the role of Cultural Integration officer.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: blackpoolalty on March 27, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
Is this the first time Alty have banned one of their own fans?

No, I think a guy called Steve Mountfield got banned a few years back for being racist.

Get him off, get him off. Get him off referee you dirty sod OOOH you dirty sod off off off. Along with many unrepeatable racist language
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: The Teasing Squad on March 27, 2012, 08:26:01 PM
Does he still travel away? If so is he allowed on the official supporters vehicle?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Hamilton on March 27, 2012, 08:26:46 PM
Does he still travel away? If so is he allowed on the official supporters vehicle?

He's barred from that too
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: D.A. ALTY on March 27, 2012, 09:04:23 PM
some bloke on the news just been jailed for 56 days for shoutin racist abuse at the bolton player who collapsed,, why carnt dennis birch receive the same PUNISHMENT !!!
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: seasonticket on March 28, 2012, 09:25:42 AM
Here is a thought. Dennis Birch should not have been banned for racist comments last Saturday.
There thats got you all going i'm sure!
Reason why not, because he should have been banned years ago for his general behaviour ond foul mouthed comments.
Some years ago at Bradford Park Avenue he ranted and raved at all and sundry and I was most surprised that some of the locals did not give him a good thumping.
He had the potential for causing trouble and on that basis should have been banned. Had that happenned there would have been no racist abuse to bring the club a bad name on Saturday
These things should be nipped in the bud. 
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: jimmyhank on March 28, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
Good riddance. His behaviour has been at best "questionnable" over the years and once you start racially abusing people then it's goodnight and goodbye.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: hsmith1 on March 28, 2012, 05:58:51 PM
and why are we still talking about him?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2012, 06:10:04 PM
and why are we still talking about him?
Great bumping of a thread ;)
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: Jenga on March 28, 2012, 07:52:10 PM
and why are we still talking about him?
Great bumping of a thread ;)
Please stop bumping this thread.
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: York Alty on March 28, 2012, 07:52:32 PM
and why are we still talking about him?
Great bumping of a thread ;)
Please stop bumping this thread.

like this?
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: The Teasing Squad on March 28, 2012, 09:21:35 PM
Is it still 3-1? Oops sorry wrong thread
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: VofD on March 28, 2012, 10:12:28 PM
You should be "BIRCHED" for posting on the wrong thread. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: taxi Phil on March 28, 2012, 11:06:46 PM
You should be "BIRCHED" for posting on the wrong thread. ;) ;) ;)
"DENNIS" read backwards is, rather aptly, "SINNED".
Title: Re: Dennis Birch
Post by: MadFrankie on March 28, 2012, 11:26:57 PM
Can he be "rehabilitated"?

They tried to make him go to rehab,
He said f*&%, p***, C*&%......
Cook pass babtridge. Post of the season so far Globby. Move it, move it!