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Title: Winter Break
Post by: Toff Apple on February 11, 2012, 09:07:19 AM
For those who always say we should have a winter break, this season is the reason why not.  We would have not played over xmas and new year and be back to the season now.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: MadFrankie on February 11, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
Hit the nail on the head Mr Apple. Doubt it will stop the discussion arising 2 or 3 times every season though.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: York Alty on February 11, 2012, 09:32:45 AM
Pretty much got the bulls eye.  Being pedantic for a moment the dreaded winter break could run for two or three weeks across Jan/Feb but still wold not guarantee to coincide with the worst of the weather.  That would leave us with a planned two week break PLUS an unscheduled weather break.

The suggestion of a winter break is now a dead dog. Bang.  Hear that noise? That was the dog being shot.

Thank You.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: markecky on February 11, 2012, 09:49:03 AM
It might have worked 15 years ago when we used to have seasons, before we all broke the weather by using Mandate deodorant after PE with CFC's in.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: MadFrankie on February 11, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
It might have worked 15 years ago when we used to have seasons, before we all broke the weather by using Mandate deodorant after PE with CFC's in.

My Hai Karate roll on shall remain blameless.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 11, 2012, 12:42:32 PM
Don't you hate it when global warming causes all this cold weather!
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Butty on February 11, 2012, 03:22:15 PM
Don't you hate it when global warming causes all this cold weather!

On a not very pedantic note, its not global warming, its climate change, which, for the UK, makes climatic events more extreme and unpredictable.

Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bumble on February 11, 2012, 03:27:15 PM
Don't you hate it when global warming causes all this cold weather!

On a not very pedantic note, its not global warming, its climate change, which, for the UK, makes climatic events more extreme and unpredictable.



And on another note global warming is a myth

It's natural fluctuations that occur
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: whopper on February 11, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
Enjoy the postponements then, is feb not late winter? Hmmmmm are u guys slightly stuck in the muck??
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: im not really here on February 11, 2012, 04:08:20 PM
Madrid Robin - in tht case you would have a 3 month break from beginning of November to the end of February which would cancel out a summer break. As has already mentuioned its not feasible.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Robin Reliant on February 11, 2012, 04:54:47 PM
The Anglesey league has a winter break, which has just ended. A majority of the teams play on astroturf pitches!

  ;D ;D


Note that those who play with oval balls, seem to manage in the snow!  ;)
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Bob on February 11, 2012, 06:14:15 PM
Enjoy the postponements then, is feb not late winter? Hmmmmm are u guys slightly stuck in the muck??

So how would the winter break work practically then? Dates? Funding? FA cup format?
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: blackpoolalty on February 11, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
Traditionally the coldest month of the year is February. It would be impossible to have a winter break, the weather in this country is just too unpredictable.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: taxi Phil on February 11, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
The season should start on May 1st. and run until September 30th. All cup competitions should be abolished, and teams should play three times a week. That'll sort the men from the boys  ;D
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 11, 2012, 10:57:04 PM
Don't you hate it when global warming causes all this cold weather!

On a not very pedantic note, its not global warming, its climate change, which, for the UK, makes climatic events more extreme and unpredictable.



And on another note global warming is a myth

It's natural fluctuations that occur

Absolutely the irony I was trying to make. The man-made global warming bandwagon is an unscientific  and expensive con trick.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: MadFrankie on February 12, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
The season should start on May 1st. and run until September 30th. All cup competitions should be abolished, and teams should play three times a week. That'll sort the men from the boys  ;D
You mean 3 times per week, or the premier league moaners definition of 3 times which merges one week into another?
Playing sat, tue, sat etc is 2 games per week, not 3.
Perhaps I've been triple whoosed though.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: RockyRobin on February 12, 2012, 10:10:02 AM
The season should start on May 1st. and run until September 30th. All cup competitions should be abolished, and teams should play three times a week. That'll sort the men from the boys  ;D
You mean 3 times per week, or the premier league moaners definition of 3 times which merges one week into another?
Playing sat, tue, sat etc is 2 games per week, not 3.
Perhaps I've been triple whoosed though.

Not sure if you have been whoosed or not but have a Peake just in case x
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: PukkaPieman on February 12, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
Don't you hate it when global warming causes all this cold weather!
On a not very pedantic note, its not global warming, its climate change, which, for the UK, makes climatic events more extreme and unpredictable.
And on another note global warming is a myth
It's natural fluctuations that occur
Absolutely the irony I was trying to make. The man-made global warming bandwagon is an unscientific  and expensive con trick.
The scientific evidence for global warming is completely overwhelming. ALL the world's environmental experts agree. There a few people left who still think its a conspiracy theory, looks like we found a couple on here though :-[
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: hsmith1 on February 12, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
wrong,its something the planet has always done,ice age then warmer weather,then an ice age,and its happenning again,Yes its climate change,but not all caused by Greenhouse gases.If you think about it look at how many volcanos that spewed crap into the atmosphere all the time,now we just have cars and the odd volcano.As for a winter break,no thanks.Unless you mean moving to Tenerife during the coldest months.Ecky use a roll on does less damage to the enviroment.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Ascot Alty on February 12, 2012, 11:29:36 AM
Don't you hate it when global warming causes all this cold weather!
On a not very pedantic note, its not global warming, its climate change, which, for the UK, makes climatic events more extreme and unpredictable.
And on another note global warming is a myth
It's natural fluctuations that occur
Absolutely the irony I was trying to make. The man-made global warming bandwagon is an unscientific  and expensive con trick.
The scientific evidence for global warming is completely overwhelming. ALL the world's environmental experts agree. There a few people left who still think its a conspiracy theory, looks like we found a couple on here though :-[

Denial is the key to piece of mind, and the scapegoat of the lazy and unhindered.

Ironically the prediction software shows that melting of the ice caps will make uk colder and Europe covered in snow 6 months a year.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Ascot Alty on February 12, 2012, 11:36:05 AM
wrong,its something the planet has always done,ice age then warmer weather,then an ice age,and its happenning again,Yes its climate change,but not all caused by Greenhouse gases.If you think about it look at how many volcanos that spewed crap into the atmosphere all the time,now we just have cars and the odd volcano.As for a winter break,no thanks.Unless you mean moving to Tenerife during the coldest months.Ecky use a roll on does less damage to the enviroment.

There's no less volcanoes spewing crap now than in the last few million years. So we are adding to it, not replacing it.

You are right, it's a natural phenomena. But we've accelerated it and also now gone past the peak of any previous natural warming. We could be at the cusp of an ice age, or we could all be f**ked.

I think we'll get it under control eventually, necessity is the mother of invention.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bumble on February 12, 2012, 11:52:06 AM
wrong,its something the planet has always done,ice age then warmer weather,then an ice age,and its happenning again,Yes its climate change,but not all caused by Greenhouse gases.If you think about it look at how many volcanos that spewed crap into the atmosphere all the time,now we just have cars and the odd volcano.As for a winter break,no thanks.Unless you mean moving to Tenerife during the coldest months.Ecky use a roll on does less damage to the enviroment.

There's no less volcanoes spewing crap now than in the last few million years. So we are adding to it, not replacing it.

You are right, it's a natural phenomena. But we've accelerated it and also now gone past the peak of any previous natural warming. We could be at the cusp of an ice age, or we could all be f**ked.

I think we'll get it under control eventually, necessity is the mother of invention.

Good old ester

Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 12, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
Since the late 1990s global temperatures have dropped!
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: markecky on February 12, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
Since the late 1990s global temperatures have dropped!

They've not dropped in our house!
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bighairedmike on February 13, 2012, 12:10:05 AM
Since the late 1990s global temperatures have dropped!

They've not dropped in our house!

It's all that hot air after another dreadful alty performance that you produce that's causing it...  ;)
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bumble on February 13, 2012, 05:58:06 PM
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/09/01/fa-launches-‘let’s-kick-climate-change-denial-out-of-football’-campaign/ (http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/09/01/fa-launches-‘let’s-kick-climate-change-denial-out-of-football’-campaign/)
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Robin Reliant on February 13, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/09/01/fa-launches-‘let’s-kick-climate-change-denial-out-of-football’-campaign/ (http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/09/01/fa-launches-‘let’s-kick-climate-change-denial-out-of-football’-campaign/)

or even..FA to scrap handshakes in favour of face-slapping and arse-kicking. More soon.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Jezza on February 14, 2012, 07:48:29 AM
The scientific evidence for global warming is completely overwhelming.......it's a load of bollocks, the earth's temperature has been fluctuating since the dawn of time, average global temperatures have actually dropped in the last twenty years, and if anything we are more likely heading toward another ice age than anything else....... so we should get a refund on our fuel duty to leave our 4x4s running in the drive overnight.....sorry if that's an inconvenient truth to anyone who wants to keep their public job that is funded by taxing old people's energy bills and justifying it with a scare story..... a scare story I tell you!!!!!.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 14, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Spot on
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: distancetraveller on February 14, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
Global Warming,  I categorize it alongside the Millenium Bug - Basically a load of B-------x

This meterogical behaviour has been happening since the Earth came into being.

Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bumble on February 14, 2012, 12:01:26 PM
Global Warming,  I categorize it alongside the Millenium Bug - Basically a load of B-------x

This meterogical behaviour has been happening since the Earth came into being.



We also would die without the greenhouse effect...

the earth would be 3O degrees colder

Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bighairedmike on February 14, 2012, 12:44:15 PM
Global Warming,  I categorize it alongside the Millenium Bug - Basically a load of B-------x

This meterogical behaviour has been happening since the Earth came into being.



We also would die without the greenhouse effect...

the earth would be 3O degrees colder



How would that kill us? That's shorts and flip flops weather if you ask me.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Butty on February 14, 2012, 01:08:53 PM
Global Warming,  I categorize it alongside the Millenium Bug - Basically a load of B-------x

This meterogical behaviour has been happening since the Earth came into being.



We also would die without the greenhouse effect...

the earth would be 3O degrees colder



How would that kill us? That's shorts and flip flops weather if you ask me.

No heat, crops failing leads to there being no vegetables to eat. It also means that there would be no crops for animal feed, therefore no meat. No food=death.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bumble on February 14, 2012, 01:11:15 PM
Global Warming,  I categorize it alongside the Millenium Bug - Basically a load of B-------x

This meterogical behaviour has been happening since the Earth came into being.



We also would die without the greenhouse effect...

the earth would be 3O degrees colder



How would that kill us? That's shorts and flip flops weather if you ask me.

The earths average tempature for 2011 was around 14.4 degrees, so if its then 30 degrees less - this would make it -15.6 average, therefore some areas would be far colder, therefore areas that are warmer would have more people thus be over populated, resources would run out eventually, and therefore death would occur



Anyway, the world will be fine - well as long as we dont go nuclear.....
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: bighairedmike on February 14, 2012, 01:20:21 PM
Global Warming,  I categorize it alongside the Millenium Bug - Basically a load of B-------x

This meterogical behaviour has been happening since the Earth came into being.



We also would die without the greenhouse effect...

the earth would be 3O degrees colder



How would that kill us? That's shorts and flip flops weather if you ask me.

The earths average tempature for 2011 was around 14.4 degrees, so if its then 30 degrees less - this would make it -15.6 average, therefore some areas would be far colder, therefore areas that are warmer would have more people thus be over populated, resources would run out eventually, and therefore death would occur



Anyway, the world will be fine - well as long as we dont go nuclear.....

It was a joke.

But even so, it'd be survival of the fittest in the end, just how nature intended. Not everyone would die and places that are naturally colder (M*cc, Northw*ch) would be wiped out. Winner!
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: taxi Phil on February 14, 2012, 01:46:07 PM
Not in MY lifetime, therefore totally selfishly ARSED !
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Robin Reliant on February 14, 2012, 04:42:27 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Leon on February 14, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth

'State of Fear' the novel, you mean? Does that mean Jurassic Park is real?
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Robin Reliant on February 14, 2012, 05:03:02 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth

'State of Fear' the novel, you mean? Does that mean Jurassic Park is real?

NO, but the novel I quoted is more like a treatise, with many references.Read it before you scoff.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: MadFrankie on February 14, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth

'State of Fear' the novel, you mean? Does that mean Jurassic Park is real?

JP1 was real. 2 and 3 were pure fiction.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Leon on February 14, 2012, 05:29:27 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth

'State of Fear' the novel, you mean? Does that mean Jurassic Park is real?

NO, but the novel I quoted is more like a treatise, with many references.Read it before you scoff.

You make it sound both unscientific and tedious. Don't think I'll bother.

And I'd suggest that a scientific journal, say, might be a more reliable source of information about climate change than a thriller with a load of footnotes. 
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on February 14, 2012, 05:48:24 PM
This novel received criticism from climate scientists,[1][6][15] science journalists[16][17] and environmental groups[18][19] for inaccuracies and misleading information. Sixteen of 18 top U.S. climate scientists interviewed by Knight Ridder said the author was bending scientific data and distorting research.[6]
Several scientists whose research had been referenced in the novel stated that Crichton had distorted it in the novel. Peter Doran, leading author of the Nature paper,[20] wrote in the New York Times stating that
"... our results have been misused as “evidence” against global warming by Michael Crichton in his novel “State of Fear”[15]

See, even a former Alty midfielder thinks it's crap.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 14, 2012, 06:19:29 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth

'State of Fear' the novel, you mean? Does that mean Jurassic Park is real?

JP1 was real. 2 and 3 were pure fiction.

I've never read "State of Fear," but the Dinosaurs in "Jurassic Park" were actually of the Cretaceous era!
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: PukkaPieman on February 14, 2012, 06:34:39 PM
To the many sceptics on here,..just look at the video debate given by Al Gore, "an Inconvenient Truth" It puts the issues into more understandable perspective for you. No its not perfect but its got more reality than many views on here.

The pace of global warming is frightening and unprecedented.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Saughall Robin on February 14, 2012, 09:13:55 PM
Read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton,for full debunking of the Global Warming myth

'State of Fear' the novel, you mean? Does that mean Jurassic Park is real?

Isn't that where V*cs may be force to play their home games from next season?  ;)
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: B. 4D on February 14, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
'What will be, will be'.
Let's just get on with it.
Bring on Saturday.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 14, 2012, 09:43:25 PM
To the many sceptics on here,..just look at the video debate given by Al Gore, "an Inconvenient Truth" It puts the issues into more understandable perspective for you. No its not perfect but its got more reality than many views on here.

The pace of global warming is frightening and unprecedented.

"An Inconvenient Truth" had too many inconvenient untruths to be taken seriously.

Still, Gore's made a lot of money....!
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: distancetraveller on February 14, 2012, 10:41:24 PM
To the many sceptics on here,..just look at the video debate given by Al Gore, "an Inconvenient Truth" It puts the issues into more understandable perspective for you. No its not perfect but its got more reality than many views on here.

The pace of global warming is frightening and unprecedented.

PukkaPieman my friend - This is where I have a problem with your Global warming theories - You obviously feel quite strongly that us earthlings use far too many fossil fuels in our everyday life and we are about to ruin the world for the generations who follow us.

Could I ask one question - If you do indeed feel that strongly about it, how come you are happy to drive a car, use an aircraft and generally use up said fossil fuels along with the rest of us.... surely if it is as Frightening and unprecented as you state then you wouldnt do these things.  Just a thought...
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: taxi Phil on February 14, 2012, 10:52:09 PM
I preferred it when CFC was a football team in West London.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 15, 2012, 11:44:13 PM
Those that believe that mankind has contributed considerably to the recent trends in global temperature rises tend to belong to the scientific community and the naysayers tend on the whole not to. In fact, I would be surprised if anyone could name any scientific body of any standing that does not agree with this. What it means for the future of our insignificant little speck of dust is another matter entirely and certainly will not be anything of any real significance in any of our lifetimes. Sarah Palin is a cimate change naysayer and that says it all to me....if I ever agree with anything that woman says on any issue of any significance it will be time to take some VERY strong medication.

Oooooh Alty and the climate change, the landing of german rifles on the lonely banna strand.....we need football and fast
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Cornish Alty on February 16, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
Firstly, I'm loving the amount of people who haven’t been duped by the politicians and media on this one.

There is no logic in the idea that Palins views add any weight to the argument either way..But if youwere to go down this route, the other side is pushed by Al (I invented the internet) Gore and other establishment politicians and the mainstream media (you know those people who lie and manipulate truths on a daily basis). Then you've got David Rothschild prating about on a boat made of lynx cans or something, to promote man made global warming whilst the rest of his filthy family and their crony’s push for carbon taxes and global government. But I’m sure this is just a coincidence.

Finally, and in response to the statement that “I would be surprised if anyone could name any scientific body of any standing that does not agree with this”. There are a number of scientists who disagree, they may be the minority but numbers do not decide if a theory is right or wrong. Having looked at both sides of the argument for me it basically comes to one side with a theory and lots of fancy models which are potentially highly inaccurate and based on assumption upon assumption. And the other who bases its opinion on scientifically undisputed facts that you would learn in an introductory geology lesson and comon sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

I know it may sound a little wacky to some of you, but governments and the media manipulate people, and the big yellow thing in the sky is what determines whether it is hot or cold, not deodorants and cow farts.

Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Jezza on February 16, 2012, 06:43:03 AM
any scientists who disagree with global warming are shot by MI6....everyone knows that for a fact.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Hamilton on February 16, 2012, 09:22:59 AM
There is significant evidence to suggest that solar action is that which dictates global temperatures and minimal evidence to confirm if higher CO2 levels are the cause or EFFECT of global warming. The biggest single cause of CO2 release into the atmosphere is the errosion of the Tibetan Plateau depositing Calium carbonate into the Indian Ocean. Calcium is deposited on the ocean floor while  CO2 is released into the atmosphere due to the high temperatures in the Indian Ocean.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 16, 2012, 04:09:21 PM
Firstly, I'm loving the amount of people who haven’t been duped by the politicians and media on this one.
Meaningless statement that cuts both ways. There is NOBODY on this thread that knows for 100% certain either way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

Palin was a throwaway (or should that be throwback), but the tea party and their ilk do love to deny global warming. My statment was that by far the vast majority of recognised scientific organisations (nationally or internationally) are agreed on global warming and of course there are going to be individuals within the scientific community who believe otherwise. These organisations have nothing necessarily to do with governments and certainly not the media.

I know it may sound a little wacky to some of you, but governments and the media manipulate people, and the big yellow thing in the sky is what determines whether it is hot or cold, not deodorants and cow farts.
Since time immemorial. Tell us something we don't know, but little relevance here.
Title: Re: Winter Break
Post by: Robin Reliant on February 16, 2012, 04:48:57 PM
Those that believe that mankind has contributed considerably to the recent trends in global temperature rises tend to belong to the scientific community and the naysayers tend on the whole not to. In fact, I would be surprised if anyone could name any scientific body of any standing that does not agree with this. What it means for the future of our insignificant little speck of dust is another matter entirely and certainly will not be anything of any real significance in any of our lifetimes. Sarah Palin is a cimate change naysayer and that says it all to me....if I ever agree with anything that woman says on any issue of any significance it will be time to take some VERY strong medication.

Oooooh Alty and the climate change, the landing of german rifles on the lonely banna strand.....we need football and fast

Wasn't very lonely last September,4 truckloads of Irish Rangers,and a couple of Garda with metal detectors.....source of much conjecture in the bars of Tralee   ;)