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Title: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Knutsford Alty on January 31, 2012, 12:57:55 PM
for me colchester united away 1990/1991

A load of colchester army type lads fans decided to enter our end and started to wade into the Alty fans....I certainly needed to change my pants after that.

Also Halifax at home when some of their fans dressed up, everything seemed so calm in the Golf Road end, then bang  :(
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on January 31, 2012, 01:22:22 PM
Port Vale in the FA Cup 1992 - absolute mayhem in the Golf Road End.

Aldershot Town in the FA Trophy 1999 - advised by stewards not to hang around at the final whistle. Didn't even wait to clap the team off, just legged it through that weird little park back to the coach.

Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Knutsford Alty on January 31, 2012, 01:36:12 PM
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Port Vale in the FA Cup 1992 - absolute mayhem in the Golf Road End.

Yes forgot about that one....staffs rozzers were even in our end.
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: chesteralty on January 31, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
Apart from Colchester, which was a sudden event and over very quickly, I remember being terrified for the whole game at Frickley in an FA Cup tie in the mid 80s.
I think it was around the time of the miners strike and the ground was full of very angry yorkshiremen who clearly weren't scared of the police and were itching for a fight. I think Phil Gardner scored for us right at the end of the game after we had been totally outplayed for the first 90 minutes, but without conceding.
That only made matters worse, on the way out I just buried my head in my coat and jumped on a bus that happened to be passing, without caring where it went. Fortunately it went to Barnsley and I was able to get a train home!!
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Post by: hsmith1 on January 31, 2012, 03:29:30 PM
Ellesmere port away in the FA Cup.when they ambushed us in the car park after we had beaten them.they had tried a pitch invasion to get the game called off first.
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: York Alty on January 31, 2012, 03:53:37 PM
the game against Port Vale stands out as an absolute fiasco.  They were indeed Staffs. dibble and they were utterly clueless.  As seemed to be the case at that time they were determined to stick to their plan (if they had one) and took no notice of what was going on around them.  Did we have to pay for that?  should have claimed a naffing refund!

The Frickley game was tense but I don't remember feeling threatened, some of the locals were up for a scrap but they weren't too bothered if it was us, the police or whatever.

Aldershot was grim, as was Wycombe away at their old ground - pre match scuffles!
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Post by: MadFrankie on January 31, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
Aldershot Town in the FA Trophy 1999 - advised by stewards not to hang around at the final whistle. Didn't even wait to clap the team off, just legged it through that weird little park back to the coach.
London Alty sloped off into the bar under the stand and spread some non-league friendship.
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: York Alty on January 31, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
though I was asked what my scarf was in a Leeds pub (we'd been to see Frank Sidebottom).  Red and white scarves aren't too welcome in Leeds!
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Ballers on January 31, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
for me colchester united away 1990/1991

It wasn't much better the season after trying to get back to the railway station.
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Post by: blackpoolalty on January 31, 2012, 04:34:54 PM
The only 2 times I've felt trouble and a bit concerned were :

Bishop Auckland at home in the trophy, circa 1996 ?  and the George Shepherd disco
Wrexham at home NYD last year, group of dickheads in home end and a steward punched
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 31, 2012, 05:03:18 PM

The legendary 1-0 win (God bless Mal Bailey!) at Runcorn in the FA Challenge Trophy Semi-Final Second Leg back in April 1978.

Adopted downcast faces as we traipsed back to the car after the game amidst irate Runcorn slubberdegullions.

Once we had driven far enough out to clear the Runcorn boundary, there was an eruption of jubilant "Wem-ba-lee!" chants.

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Post by: ManagementGuru on January 31, 2012, 05:18:19 PM
Cult - I agree about Runcorn.  And what is it with Trophy Semi-Finals?

I offer Wycombe away in 1982 and Boston away in 1985 both as very scary days.

For Wycombe I was stood in the away end watching streams of skinheads climbing into the Alty segregation along the touchline.  Difficult not to cheer - once, twice, three times - but I managed it

And at Boston, as I mentioned the other day, golf balls nails and the like hurled at us by 4000 inbred racist neanderthals
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Post by: Jenga on January 31, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
Last Season - end of.
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Post by: Nom de plume on January 31, 2012, 05:49:38 PM
Boston away in 1985
And at Boston, as I mentioned the other day, golf balls nails and the like hurled at us by 4000 inbred racist neanderthals

I remember that very high fence at the away end which I stupidly thought was to keep us off the pitch. It was to keep the mongs with one eye in the middle of their foreheads from getting to us! :o
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Kingys Beard on January 31, 2012, 05:57:49 PM
1.  Spurs the first time.  Stood in front of a gorilla drinking straight from the vodka bottle for half the game (no, it wasn't George Heslop), then waited for ages for a promised but non-appearing police escort before striking out alone, scarf tucked under coat, muttering in a fake cockney accent and trying to look disgusted.  Fun train journey home though!

2.  Mossley circa 1980.  Coach got bricked and it wasn't half a cold journey back.

3. Runcorn April 78 - got a right kicking but somehow it didn't matter  ;D
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: York Alty on January 31, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Boston is a god awful, back end of nowhere place.  It's the sort of place one-eyed, knuckle draggers come from.  It ain't all their fault they're T**ts.
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: thegazelle on January 31, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
too many to mention
add scarborough at home to the semi final terror fixtures.
Wycombe got hit on the head by a cider bottle thank god it didnt break. My punk mate Ozzie was arrested for his "own safety" celebrated with three yups and asked a copper to show us to the coach i was wearing an alty shirt. on coach massive relief and then we had to go to the police station to get the ones who were arrested for their own safety.
Runcorn me and phil hall "hid" in their end and when bailey scored we looked at each other and said feck it and went mental . we never got touched . they probably thought we were crazy.
Mossley after they won the league cup i was holding on to the emergency door on the coach as their idiots tried to board the coach.
everton went on the kiddies coach which they moved and we wandered round stanley park looking for it being spradically attacked and bottles thrown at by angry scousers.ontact with their hooligans
kettering league cup final avoided all contact with their hooligans including scaling the stand and falling into the directors box whilst being persued off the pitch . only to get T**tted by a bird in the pub in a non football related incident.
Wigan away on a couple of dark nights late 70's fixtures
there was something about being sh*t scared that made the football even more exciting. not that i advocate a return to those days.

Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Knutsford Alty on January 31, 2012, 07:34:45 PM
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there was something about being sh*t scared that made the football even more exciting. not that i advocate a return to those days.

I know what you mean.  After the England/Germany game at the old Wembley where Keegan resigned, we got the Euston to Manchester train up north.  Went to sit in our seats but thought better of it when a load of Burnley meatheads were sitting in them so we stood up pretending to look like tourists.  It soon became apparent that some Blackburn fans were in the next carriage, so the ticking timebomb began. We got to Milton Keynes before it kicked off major style, really nasty stuff and the four of us legged it to lock ourselves in the bogs. I didnt realise how much Burnley/Blackburn hated each other upto then.   ??? 
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on January 31, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
Getting mugged after a 3-1 win away at Stafford at the start of the 80-81 season... 3 of us got in our car and 5 Stafford blokes surrounded it, rocked it, spat on it, forced the doors open and kicked us repeatedly then stole my mate's right shoe! Happy days!  :o
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Knutsford Alty on January 31, 2012, 07:40:59 PM
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Getting mugged after a 3-1 win away at Stafford at the start of the 80-81 season... 3 of us got in our car and 5 Stafford blokes surrounded it, rocked it, spat on it, forced the doors open and kicked us repeatedly then stole my mate's right shoe! Happy days! 

Sounds heavy stuff that.  Once went with some Stockport lads to watch them play Stoke at the Victoria ground.  I needed new undies after the walk from the station to the ground  ;)
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Post by: Toff Apple on January 31, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
FC United home for a friendly, lad infront of me got a punch in the face
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Knutsford Alty on January 31, 2012, 08:11:41 PM
probably pissed off with the Bury rent
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: RocketDan on January 31, 2012, 08:30:47 PM
walking through Newcastle with a red and white striped scarf after Gateshead away last season wasn't the best idea i'd ever had.
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: jiminlondon on January 31, 2012, 08:32:10 PM
Gazelle is right as ever. To be honest the years 76 - 82ish it was every other week in some godforsaken hole
Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on January 31, 2012, 09:17:25 PM
On the way back from Wembley on the train in 78 I recall bricking it when we stopped in Crewe (I think) station and several carriages full of angry rabid Chelsea fans pulled up alongside us on their way back from a 6-0 tonking at Everton that afternoon. I remember all us moving to the other side of the carriage for safety
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Post by: Railway Alty on February 01, 2012, 11:37:27 AM
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On the way back from Wembley on the train in 78 I recall bricking it when we stopped in Crewe (I think) station and several carriages full of angry rabid Chelsea fans pulled up alongside us on their way back from a 6-0 tonking at Everton that afternoon. I remember all us moving to the other side of the carriage for safety
Ah yes, the famous specials to Wembley in 78, nearly missed it on the way back after Si Kelly decided to snog a Met WPC and nearly got arrested, then calling in at every offy on the way back to Wembley Central trying to get beer and ended up with about 6 bottles of Pomagne, which were part consumed before some other Met plod confiscated the rest "for our own Safety". The Chelsea fans on the train opposite thought we were United fans because of the red and white scarfs, oh happy days.
As for Wigan at Springfield Park well new undercrackers were needed after every visit :o
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Post by: thegazelle on February 01, 2012, 06:48:03 PM
si kelly trying to snog some one cannot believe it. go on give us a clue railway alty it will be a blast from the past no doubt but glad to see you are one of the few from those days who still has the faith!!!!!! .
from fat bloke who lived 3 doors away from monsieur kelly's residence at that stage, not seen him for fifteen  years believe he made good!!!

Title: Re: times when being an Alty fan wasn't such a good idea
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 02, 2012, 12:30:09 AM
The Frickley game was tense but I don't remember feeling threatened, some of the locals were up for a scrap but they weren't too bothered if it was us, the police or whatever.

I believe one of the coaches was bricked the one we were on was partially invaded and the driver got headbutted for his troubles.
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Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 02, 2012, 04:12:13 PM
...and of course the Hudddersfield game in the 82-83 season mentioned here:

http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=11227.msg123572#msg123572

I have a vague recollection of some strava at an FA Trophy match away at Winsford in 81 I think. I recall leaving rather sharpish after our 2-0 (?) victory at any rate....or did I just imagine all of that?
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Post by: gazwarrington on February 02, 2012, 07:03:18 PM
For some reason Burton away always sticks in my head, at their old ground when the coach got attacked ? Close to 'kicking off' would have to bizarrely be Redditch, just remember some lads and then one standing reet next to us slowly putting his gloves on and all drinking cans :)

Far too many good times though. From Skipper at Nuneaton  to  Nasha flying over walls at Frickley .... If I ever wrote a book about Alty that would be the title :)
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Post by: Railway Alty on February 03, 2012, 07:43:53 AM
Gazelle, Si used to get up to many tricks, especially when he had a few! scoops. we had got a load of beer from an offy near the bleeding wolf early in the morning as we had forgot the night before! the carrige floor on the train going was just full of toby light cans (remember Toby light) and we had just walk over them. there was me Si and Dave Stanley (Scaggs) if i remember right, was a real blast, we had many a scrape in those days, lol
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Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 04, 2012, 04:13:20 PM
Does nobody else remember that Winsford trophy match?
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Post by: thegazelle on February 04, 2012, 04:26:42 PM
remember someone taking a swing at me at winsford  on the way out as it got to a bit of a crush goingout of the gate,but his fist just whizzed over my head, when i turned round he ran ,that was possibly the same game i dont recall many other shennanagins in the scouse overspill.  do like fishing on winsford flash though.
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Post by: RedhillAlty on February 05, 2012, 08:29:47 AM
Wigan away on several occasions in the 70's, I remember one great escape after we won 1-0 to find the coach moved from the car park to exactly in front of the exit gate just as pack were about to pounce. I think we were the only club that took fans to Wigan in those days. They were the only NPL club that brought a mob to Moss Lane for an anual punch up.
Runcorn was never a nice place.I remember being invoved in a fisty cuff inside the ground at the FA Trophy Semi Final with Scousers that supported United.I actually caught up with one of them before a United match when I was with a gang from Dublin and they Scouse coward went to lengths explaining he supported Scotland not England.
Kettering in the APL Cup Semi - which the Gazelle knows very well about. I was also sat opposite him in the pub when that gorgeous blond bird nearly took his head off. I can confirm that it was in response to a non-football related comment!!
Everton - we wouldnt have had a problem that day had the Merseyside police not split Alty fans up into different part of the ground and didnt even try to remove Everton fans from the away end.
Spurs in 1979
Rotherham in 1976 when we lost 5-0
Probably all these indicents would be avoided these days with segregation rules.
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Post by: SW on February 05, 2012, 09:34:59 AM
There were a few skirmishes at Macc one Boxing Day in the late 70s, with one particular chap of their's wearing a long leather coat being significantly involved. It started at half time in the bar, the kicked off at the end as we tried to leave the ground.

On to New Year's Day, the return game. I met my mate for a pre-match drink in The Bridge, only after an hour or so for the Macc team to walk in. It had snowed like hell unbeknown to us and the game was off.

I walked to Alty station and there were no trains due to the snow, but who do I meet but Mr long leather coat. He was stranded so the warm congenial part of me kicked in and I said to come with me , I'll get you a bus into town. I lived off Dane Rd in Sale then so we jumped on the 263. I told him he needs to get off with me then I helpfully waited with him while I put him on the 222 to Partington. I often wonder if he ever got home!
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Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on February 05, 2012, 11:29:47 AM
There were a few skirmishes at Macc one Boxing Day in the late 70s, with one particular chap of their's wearing a long leather coat being significantly involved. It started at half time in the bar, the kicked off at the end as we tried to leave the ground.

On to New Year's Day, the return game. I met my mate for a pre-match drink in The Bridge, only after an hour or so for the Macc team to walk in. It had snowed like hell unbeknown to us and the game was off.

I walked to Alty station and there were no trains due to the snow, but who do I meet but Mr long leather coat. He was stranded so the warm congenial part of me kicked in and I said to come with me , I'll get you a bus into town. I lived off Dane Rd in Sale then so we jumped on the 263. I told him he needs to get off with me then I helpfully waited with him while I put him on the 222 to Partington. I often wonder if he ever got home!


Magnificent work.



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Post by: thegazelle on February 05, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
Nice work Cult  . indeed i recall longleathercoat man all too well as i was on the receiving end of his fist and boots a few times on the boxing day.

I think the story has been told before but it basically involved 10 pints of stones in the moss, a coach trip, 2 pints of marstons in the star and a pint of whatever in the bar under the stand at macc. All was well apart from jumping so high when we scored the first goal i went head first over the wall and on to the pitch when we scored the first goal (hard to believe but i was only 18) starting "totally by accident" a minor pitch invasion. then went for a pint at half time as if i needed another one and it turned into two so i was last to leave the bar admittedly i had taken the piss out of a tottenham fan (up and coming fixture) in the bar and his mate who happened to be wearing a long coat all in a friendly 15 pint manner . i then left the bar and had to walk down the players tunnel totally un aware the nasty people had lined either side of the tunnel and give me a friendly slap or kick as i passed by. i decided this was very rude of them and decided to fight them all and was pulled back or mopre probably out of trouble by derek kennerley and some other  people who i do not recall . said macc fans wouldnt come near me when i was back with the alty fans despite me very loudly and drunkenley requesting they do so for most of the second half . they then ambushed a small group of us on the way out but we repelled and got onto the coach as usual foxy probably got the worst of it but i had a black eye and still have a scar inside my mouth.
Discretion stops me naming the two people who got one attacking macc fan and rammed his head into the floodlight stanchion as they are both fine upstanding members of society with many childer
A lesson learned but not often heeded that drinking excesive amounts and thinking yer hard when your not is  not a good idea .


PS we won 5-1........................ i think

it also cost me a hat as i was sick on the coach into my hat and it acted as a very efficient strainer and had to be discarded and i can recall girlfriend at the time not best pleased with my appearance when i went to meet her later that night.
I suspect SW and possibly scottie were present at these goings on, although obviously not involved in the slightest yer honor, and may recall more than me
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Post by: SW on February 05, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
There were tinnies consumed on the coach on the way there if I recall as well, it was quite a day out. Not sure the coach driver saw it the same way. Oh to be 17 and immortal again!
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Post by: thegazelle on February 05, 2012, 01:36:43 PM
once strained it was almost neat stones and blood is easy to mop up whats he moaning about
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Post by: Uncle Globnasty on February 05, 2012, 07:58:41 PM
remember someone taking a swing at me at winsford  on the way out as it got to a bit of a crush goingout of the gate,but his fist just whizzed over my head, when i turned round he ran ,that was possibly the same game i dont recall many other shennanagins in the scouse overspill.  do like fishing on winsford flash though.

I have a recollection of gangs of youths outside looking for likely prey and myself being a 9 stone geekager at the time, made me the equivalent of a wounded antelope to a pride of rather hungry lions.....luckily I could run fairly well back then
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Post by: Railway Alty on February 06, 2012, 08:24:38 AM
Ah yes Winsford away, think our coach gat at least one window broke that day but my most abiding memory was a rather large Alty fan (who usde to attend with a quite small mate) getting stuck in the tiny turnstiles they had and about 4 or 5 of us pushing and pulling him to get him unstuck!!!!!! :D