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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: AltyTunnelSteward on September 06, 2011, 10:37:07 AM
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I know that I'm getting on a bit and the memory isn't what it was.
However, I'm seeming to remember that when we appointed the current management people were happy(ish) on the whole and were being quite unusually reasonable with regard to their expectations.
Before a ball had been kicked pre season the concensus seemed to be that this would probably be a two year project - We had been out of this level of football for some time, the Club had spent the past few years fighting relegation and had around it a pessimistic air (on the field) and most importantly we had a new management team, new players and consequently would be having to find a way to combine old and new players into what may have been a different system for many of them.
Then we have the pre seasons and, on the whole things went not too badly, we performed okay against a Man City side operating at about 40 - 50% of capacity, beat a poor Tranmere side, struggled for half a game against Trafford then battered them for 45 minutes. Were dissected by Stockport and played a fairly typical Barrow team (World beaters one week then worse than a pub team the next)
People's expectations looked up!
We are now seven games into the season with a squad of sixteen plus three youth teamers and the Assistant Manager and yet already the knives are out.
This is a hard league - it has changed significantly from the one we escaped from via the play offs. Can we not just step back a bit, put this superiority complex (pub teams, tinpot league etc) out of our minds and do the following
1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
2) Give the Club (players, management, staff etc) time to resolve the issues. If we can see them then I'm bloody sure they can and I'm also bloody sure that they are doing everything in their power to resolve them
3) Our fans over the years have in general given magnificent support even when things have been less than ideal. Can we please carry on doing so?
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Gloucester had 3 players fatter than me, there's being reasonable and realistic, but there is also a limit as to what is acceptable for a club of our standing.49 league victories out of 200 and no significant drop on home support tells me people are realistic and understanding. People should though be able to vent their spleen on here after a match if they so desire, without being critised for it.that's what fans forum are for, and after spending money that could have been better used elsewhere to go to the south west of England to watch a northern league match, I and the 70 others in attendance are going to be slightly cross at the outcome. You imagine the response of any other set of conference fans that got relegated the way we did and then went on to have won one game in the league below by September....,,
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I think the problem has been in the manner of the defeats.
After Harrogate I was feeling very optimistic, we bossed the game and were unlucky to lose. However that pattern has been repeated on two or maybe three occasions since then. This indicates to me that there is now something in the players minds that seems to make us freeze , despite outplaying the majority of the teams we have faced. I am willing to give Lee as much time as it takes, but this mental block we seem to have is surely the most pressing issue.
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I know that I'm getting on a bit and the memory isn't what it was.
However, I'm seeming to remember that when we appointed the current management people were happy(ish) on the whole and were being quite unusually reasonable with regard to their expectations.
Before a ball had been kicked pre season the concensus seemed to be that this would probably be a two year project - We had been out of this level of football for some time, the Club had spent the past few years fighting relegation and had around it a pessimistic air (on the field) and most importantly we had a new management team, new players and consequently would be having to find a way to combine old and new players into what may have been a different system for many of them.
Then we have the pre seasons and, on the whole things went not too badly, we performed okay against a Man City side operating at about 40 - 50% of capacity, beat a poor Tranmere side, struggled for half a game against Trafford then battered them for 45 minutes. Were dissected by Stockport and played a fairly typical Barrow team (World beaters one week then worse than a pub team the next)
People's expectations looked up!
We are now seven games into the season with a squad of sixteen plus three youth teamers and the Assistant Manager and yet already the knives are out.
This is a hard league - it has changed significantly from the one we escaped from via the play offs. Can we not just step back a bit, put this superiority complex (pub teams, tinpot league etc) out of our minds and do the following
1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
2) Give the Club (players, management, staff etc) time to resolve the issues. If we can see them then I'm bloody sure they can and I'm also bloody sure that they are doing everything in their power to resolve them
3) Our fans over the years have in general given magnificent support even when things have been less than ideal. Can we please carry on doing so?
yet again you are trying to tell people how they should feel, if someone thinks the league is tinpot then they will say so, if someone thinks we have played badly they should say so, what a crap forum this would be if everyone didnt respond to anything, you can't and won't ever stop people expressing there opinions, yet again keep trying
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In fairness, all ATS is doing is expressing an opinion - aren't you saying that is what the forum is for?
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I know that I'm getting on a bit and the memory isn't what it was.
However, I'm seeming to remember that when we appointed the current management people were happy(ish) on the whole and were being quite unusually reasonable with regard to their expectations.
Before a ball had been kicked pre season the concensus seemed to be that this would probably be a two year project - We had been out of this level of football for some time, the Club had spent the past few years fighting relegation and had around it a pessimistic air (on the field) and most importantly we had a new management team, new players and consequently would be having to find a way to combine old and new players into what may have been a different system for many of them.
Then we have the pre seasons and, on the whole things went not too badly, we performed okay against a Man City side operating at about 40 - 50% of capacity, beat a poor Tranmere side, struggled for half a game against Trafford then battered them for 45 minutes. Were dissected by Stockport and played a fairly typical Barrow team (World beaters one week then worse than a pub team the next)
People's expectations looked up!
We are now seven games into the season with a squad of sixteen plus three youth teamers and the Assistant Manager and yet already the knives are out.
This is a hard league - it has changed significantly from the one we escaped from via the play offs. Can we not just step back a bit, put this superiority complex (pub teams, tinpot league etc) out of our minds and do the following
1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
2) Give the Club (players, management, staff etc) time to resolve the issues. If we can see them then I'm bloody sure they can and I'm also bloody sure that they are doing everything in their power to resolve them
3) Our fans over the years have in general given magnificent support even when things have been less than ideal. Can we please carry on doing so?
OMG what boring post. lets not talk about anything at all shall we. everythings hunkydoory!!
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In fairness, all ATS is doing is expressing an opinion - aren't you saying that is what the forum is for?
its his opinion that other people should have his opinion which is to not say anything, what a boring world it would be....
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It's my opinion that we should beat Worcester on Saturday and then build our confidence up sufficiently to go on a really good run. Despite some players apparently under-performing I do believe confidence is a big issue as well.
I do, however, tend to agree with the school of thought that it will take a couple of years before we get to where we want to be.
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when will the squad be any bigger? when will we have a better chance with conference standard players in the squad? surely if we stay in this league next year we will lose are best players? this is our chance imo
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I know that I'm getting on a bit and the memory isn't what it was.
However, I'm seeming to remember that when we appointed the current management people were happy(ish) on the whole and were being quite unusually reasonable with regard to their expectations.
Before a ball had been kicked pre season the concensus seemed to be that this would probably be a two year project - We had been out of this level of football for some time, the Club had spent the past few years fighting relegation and had around it a pessimistic air (on the field) and most importantly we had a new management team, new players and consequently would be having to find a way to combine old and new players into what may have been a different system for many of them.
Then we have the pre seasons and, on the whole things went not too badly, we performed okay against a Man City side operating at about 40 - 50% of capacity, beat a poor Tranmere side, struggled for half a game against Trafford then battered them for 45 minutes. Were dissected by Stockport and played a fairly typical Barrow team (World beaters one week then worse than a pub team the next)
People's expectations looked up!
We are now seven games into the season with a squad of sixteen plus three youth teamers and the Assistant Manager and yet already the knives are out.
This is a hard league - it has changed significantly from the one we escaped from via the play offs. Can we not just step back a bit, put this superiority complex (pub teams, tinpot league etc) out of our minds and do the following
1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
2) Give the Club (players, management, staff etc) time to resolve the issues. If we can see them then I'm bloody sure they can and I'm also bloody sure that they are doing everything in their power to resolve them
3) Our fans over the years have in general given magnificent support even when things have been less than ideal. Can we please carry on doing so?
Im gonna invite the usual debate here and say that if certain other forumites had posted this everyone would be in agreement. I pretty much agree with it regardles of who posted it.
Basic message is: I dont think as fans we are all being realistic. Agreed.
Ive said from the start that top 5 would be a great achievement this season. Top 10 is probably least id expect, certainly not a disaster. At the end of the day theres not much difference betweeon finishing 6th and 16th in this league and I think we need to stay up forst and then see if we can push for play-offs, winning the league whilst not out of realms of reality is a bit far fetched.
I dont like seeing us draw and get beat by sh*t teams, but its true we're in this league on merit, like every other club. We should take it week by week, and based on the last week we have been gaaaash!
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Agreed. Let's put it this way. Who on here was genuinely opposed to Sinnott's appointment? Who moaned when jones was signed? Dissenting voices over pre season? Not a lot.
I'm not happy with how things have started, but I'm not just thinking about now. It's perfectly natural to moan after a poor result. But we have to stay optimistic and think long term. Sinnott needs to be left to get on with it. He is no worse a manager now than he was last month.
Also, I want us promoted, I want us to win every match possible. But we are not too good or big for this league and for as long as a small section of fans stick their noses up at it and call it tinpot or a hellhole then I suspect we will be staying longer than we'd like.
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Agreed. Let's put it this way. Who on here was genuinely opposed to Sinnott's appointment? Who moaned when jones was signed? Dissenting voices over pre season? Not a lot.
I'm not happy with how things have started, but I'm not just thinking about now. It's perfectly natural to moan after a poor result. But we have to stay optimistic and think long term. Sinnott needs to be left to get on with it. He is no worse a manager now than he was last month.
Also, I want us promoted, I want us to win every match possible. But we are not too good or big for this league and for as long as a small section of fans stick their noses up at it and call it tinpot or a hellhole then I suspect we will be staying longer than we'd like.
I concur with the sentiment that we should avoid acting like Billy Big Bollocks. However, the attitude of fans at matches and on this forum will have pretty much no impact on whether we get promoted or not.
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Agreed. Let's put it this way. Who on here was genuinely opposed to Sinnott's appointment? Who moaned when jones was signed? Dissenting voices over pre season? Not a lot.
I'm not happy with how things have started, but I'm not just thinking about now. It's perfectly natural to moan after a poor result. But we have to stay optimistic and think long term. Sinnott needs to be left to get on with it. He is no worse a manager now than he was last month.
Also, I want us promoted, I want us to win every match possible. But we are not too good or big for this league and for as long as a small section of fans stick their noses up at it and call it tinpot or a hellhole then I suspect we will be staying longer than we'd like.
I concur with the sentiment that we should avoid acting like Billy Big Bollocks. However, the attitude of fans at matches and on this forum will have pretty much no impact on whether we get promoted or not.
I will never forget Andy Reid coming up to the Alty fans at Colwyn Bay many years ago in the Trophy and said 'Lets just get the win and get out of here, what a dump.'
Needless to say we didnt win and had to go to a little needed replay. One might argue that our sentiments do travel into the dressing rooms from time to time.
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Agreed. Let's put it this way. Who on here was genuinely opposed to Sinnott's appointment? Who moaned when jones was signed? Dissenting voices over pre season? Not a lot.
I'm not happy with how things have started, but I'm not just thinking about now. It's perfectly natural to moan after a poor result. But we have to stay optimistic and think long term. Sinnott needs to be left to get on with it. He is no worse a manager now than he was last month.
Also, I want us promoted, I want us to win every match possible. But we are not too good or big for this league and for as long as a small section of fans stick their noses up at it and call it tinpot or a hellhole then I suspect we will be staying longer than we'd like.
I concur with the sentiment that we should avoid acting like Billy Big Bollocks. However, the attitude of fans at matches and on this forum will have pretty much no impact on whether we get promoted or not.
I will never forget Andy Reid coming up to the Alty fans at Colwyn Bay many years ago in the Trophy and said 'Lets just get the win and get out of here, what a dump.'
Needless to say we didnt win and had to go to a little needed replay. One might argue that our sentiments do travel into the dressing rooms from time to time.
Possibly, although players and managers do have minds of their own.
They're perfectly capable of thinking a team/ground/league is sh*t without encouragement from supporters.
I think that, on occasion, we can overestimate our importance in terms of what we think and what our attitudes are. If the players and management have any degree of professionalism about them they should give a moments thought to what is written on this forum.
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I will never forget Andy Reid coming up to the Alty fans at Colwyn Bay many years ago in the Trophy and said 'Lets just get the win and get out of here, what a dump.'
I remember that as well! Back in those pre-Unibond days it was simply inconceivable that we would ever end up playing league matches at Colwyn Bay. However, I look at that same situation now and, as much as I don't want to be in this league, I know we deserve to be here. If and when we do get promoted again it will also be because we deserve it.
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1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
is it an unrealistic expectation for us not to f**k up a 2-0 lead everyweek?
Also considering the size of our attendance (which is double most in the league) and a higher admission prices, is it not only right we should expect one of the largest budgets in this league and be competing for play off spots?
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I know that I'm getting on a bit and the memory isn't what it was.
However, I'm seeming to remember that when we appointed the current management people were happy(ish) on the whole and were being quite unusually reasonable with regard to their expectations.
Before a ball had been kicked pre season the concensus seemed to be that this would probably be a two year project - We had been out of this level of football for some time, the Club had spent the past few years fighting relegation and had around it a pessimistic air (on the field) and most importantly we had a new management team, new players and consequently would be having to find a way to combine old and new players into what may have been a different system for many of them.
Then we have the pre seasons and, on the whole things went not too badly, we performed okay against a Man City side operating at about 40 - 50% of capacity, beat a poor Tranmere side, struggled for half a game against Trafford then battered them for 45 minutes. Were dissected by Stockport and played a fairly typical Barrow team (World beaters one week then worse than a pub team the next)
People's expectations looked up!
We are now seven games into the season with a squad of sixteen plus three youth teamers and the Assistant Manager and yet already the knives are out.
This is a hard league - it has changed significantly from the one we escaped from via the play offs. Can we not just step back a bit, put this superiority complex (pub teams, tinpot league etc) out of our minds and do the following
1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
2) Give the Club (players, management, staff etc) time to resolve the issues. If we can see them then I'm bloody sure they can and I'm also bloody sure that they are doing everything in their power to resolve them
3) Our fans over the years have in general given magnificent support even when things have been less than ideal. Can we please carry on doing so?
You are spot on ATS, this doesn't mean you can't express your opinion after a poor performance but I'm a bit irritated by the lack of time given to sinnott before the knives have come out
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Sinnot obviously has realistic expectations too that's why he's changed things so drastically so you won't have to wait he has already seen faults while u lot were busy saying let's be patient, try again....
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Agreed. Let's put it this way. Who on here was genuinely opposed to Sinnott's appointment? Who moaned when jones was signed? Dissenting voices over pre season? Not a lot.
I'm not happy with how things have started, but I'm not just thinking about now. It's perfectly natural to moan after a poor result. But we have to stay optimistic and think long term. Sinnott needs to be left to get on with it. He is no worse a manager now than he was last month.
Also, I want us promoted, I want us to win every match possible. But we are not too good or big for this league and for as long as a small section of fans stick their noses up at it and call it tinpot or a hellhole then I suspect we will be staying longer than we'd like.
I concur with the sentiment that we should avoid acting like Billy Big Bollocks. However, the attitude of fans at matches and on this forum will have pretty much no impact on whether we get promoted or not.
I will never forget Andy Reid coming up to the Alty fans at Colwyn Bay many years ago in the Trophy and said 'Lets just get the win and get out of here, what a dump.'
Needless to say we didnt win and had to go to a little needed replay. One might argue that our sentiments do travel into the dressing rooms from time to time.
Possibly, although players and managers do have minds of their own.
They're perfectly capable of thinking a team/ground/league is sh*t without encouragement from supporters.
I think that, on occasion, we can overestimate our importance in terms of what we think and what our attitudes are. If the players and management have any degree of professionalism about them they should give a moments thought to what is written on this forum.
Agree, but it's not to say we never have an impact. We believe our positive energy helps them, ie support, why not the negative side too? Also, general sentiment of fans isnt necessarily unparrallel to that of club staff including players. True tho that it's blown out of proportion.
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Sinnot obviously has realistic expectations too that's why he's changed things so drastically so you won't have to wait he has already seen faults while u lot were busy saying let's be patient, try again....
What does go on in your dome man?
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1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
is it an unrealistic expectation for us not to f**k up a 2-0 lead everyweek?
Also considering the size of our attendance (which is double most in the league) and a higher admission prices, is it not only right we should expect one of the largest budgets in this league and be competing for play off spots?
I know, lets sack off football, and make league tables based upon entry revenue alone. Some clubs in the league may have better non matchday facilities, higher paying sponsors, ect. so we may not neccessarily have one of the largest budgets in the league.
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everything is not hunkydory in the garden, we know that and so does Lee and so do the players.
I still believe this is a 2 year project (I may be wrong but who knows) - have confidence and remember there is only
ONE ALTY
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This is a hard league - it has changed significantly from the one we escaped from via the play offs. Can we not just step back a bit, put this superiority complex (pub teams, tinpot league etc) out of our minds
Whilst I agree with this sentiment, I do feel obliged to point out that during the pre-season Q & A session in the NWS, our current Assistant Manager was extremely disparaging about the standard of football that we could expect to see played by other teams in this league whilst intimating that, in contrast, we would be pursuing football of a much higher quality.
From what I've seen so far, he seems rather to have misjudged things!
Whilst we have enjoyed some spells of decent play, there has been far too much default hoofing from us and that has been truly disappointing.
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i dont think you can have a two year project with part time players unless you are succesfull, all im saying is if we dont get promoted this season then we mayl have to wait a long time,
are best players will leave and we are at risk of being swamped by higher rollers fc united, chester etc
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i dont think you can have a two year project with part time players unless you are succesfull, all im saying is if we dont get promoted this season then we mayl have to wait a long time, are best players will leave and we are at risk of being swamped by higher rollers fc united, chester etc
Just a couple of points to make here;
1. The two year project, as I understood it was for the Club on the basis of the first year being a consolidation season paying back the overspend of last year and staying in the black whilst trying to remain competitive - hence the signing of Sinnott, a manager with lots of BSN experience
2. It seems an accurate assessment that if we don't get promoted this year it may be a long time but we shouldn't throw money at it because of (1)
3. If we won promotion this year (which aint going to happen, realistically, although I still fervently hope it does) we would undoubtedly be in the same position as the last few years i.e. fight rearguard actions every week.
3. The only way to go up and stay up is to have a strikeforce which has tons of goals in it - i.e. when Colin was here and Senior, Denham etc were chipping in. Look at Hyde this year with Spencer. Look at recent examples like like Southport and Fleetwood. I know the money situation is totally different between these two but the one who got the strikers did well (obviously!). Even FGR have realised this with over the years a series of prolific strikers such as MacDonald and Mangan - the latest of which is Styche, to score them the goals to keep them up. Bath was another example from last year I think.
4. FCUM and Chester ARE looming but there's nothing we can do about that and, as other posters have noted, just having bigger support doesn't necessarily mean success (otherwise we'd be in the top six now!)
5. Yes, it IS sh*t watching the Supers come unstuck more often than we all expected but we've got to believe that the team and management don't like what's happening as much (if not more) than us. That being the case, they will be trying to change things for the better as soon as they can.
6. I think we've got to accept that the phrase "two year plan" is a euphemism for "as soon as we can build a team that is good enough" and try not to get obsessed by timescales.
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I am loathed to mention this again; but as things currently stand in the Conference, is there any place in the Conference for teams with average attendances below 1500 who do not have a major benefactor ?
Without the above, it can only be sustainable by generating income from cup runs (not guaranteed) and by other teams around overspending and being kicked-out (almost guaranteed)
None of the above though is a reason not to try and get promoted. It just means that it is so hard to stay up for any longer than a few seasons.
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Tinpot league,we should be beating teams like this,i have heard these statements before somewhere and remember some of the comments when the likes of Luton said those words.Lets not fall into that trap.
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Tinpot league,we should be beating teams like this,i have heard these statements before somewhere and remember some of the comments when the likes of Luton said those words.Lets not fall into that trap.
Think it's too late for that. Quite a few already have! The best thing to do now is to draw a line under that attitude and move onwards and, hopefully, upwards.
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Tinpot league,we should be beating teams like this,i have heard these statements before somewhere and remember some of the comments when the likes of Luton said those words.Lets not fall into that trap.
Think it's too late for that. Quite a few already have! The best thing to do now is to draw a line under that attitude and move onwards and, hopefully, upwards.
Alas, I fear some have emotional issues and are unable to move on....they still believe in Father Xmas, the tooth fairy, a divine right to superiority and a bottomless pit of money based on some half-baked notion of a popularity linked financial status.
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Tinpot league,we should be beating teams like this,i have heard these statements before somewhere and remember some of the comments when the likes of Luton said those words.Lets not fall into that trap.
Yes, and we knew that Luton had no idea what league they were going into. We on the other hand have been here before for 5 years, so we know what it's about and it's still reasonable to view it in those terms.
There's a big difference between being unprepared for clubs with 1200 fans who have resources to build a team and being unable to cope with clubs of 200 fans.
Having been told that attendances, budgets etc make a difference for the past 5 ears the same should apply now. I swear if we got relegated into the Unibond Premier some of the brainwashed on here would come up with exactly the same stuff.
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1) Be realistic in our expectations, particularly given squad size, budget etc
is it an unrealistic expectation for us not to f**k up a 2-0 lead everyweek?
Also considering the size of our attendance (which is double most in the league) and a higher admission prices, is it not only right we should expect one of the largest budgets in this league and be competing for play off spots?
I know, lets sack off football, and make league tables based upon entry revenue alone. Some clubs in the league may have better non matchday facilities, higher paying sponsors, ect. so we may not neccessarily have one of the largest budgets in the league.
Ok,
Thr critiscism of the team comes from an uncomfortable feeling a lot of peole have about the clubs direction. So I'll ask you
Some clubs in the league may have better non matchday facilities - why do they? What are we seriously doing to address this?,
higher paying sponsors, ect. Why? Why is a club our size and solvency not attracting higher paying sponsors or investment into the club or only had one new director in 8 years (David Burns God Rest His Soul)?
so we may not neccessarily have one of the largest budgets in the league. Why have we not got one? Is there any point in 700 of us, (more than 3 tiimes a lot of other clubs) parting with our hard earned money for no effect?
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higher paying sponsors, ect. Why? Why is a club our size and solvency not attracting higher paying sponsors or investment into the club or only had one new director in 8 years (David Burns God Rest His Soul)?
Now, that is a far more interesting question. I suspect there is no easy answer. I wonder when it comes to large investment, how many clubs who have had that good fortune have actively sought it out and how many have just been very fortunate recipients.
Most (although apparently far from all on here) know our troubled financial past, but to steal a phrase from elsewhere, the past does not equate to the future. How much is actually done in aggressively marketing Altrincham FC to potential investors/sponsors? There is always going to be a certain element of luck when it comes to large investment, but to some extent you can create your own luck.
I've no time for blind assumptions, but reasoned questioning gets the thumbs up from me (for what that's worth......and it probably isn't much in truth).
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I agree with the gist of ATS' post .....everybody faint.
the start of the season has disappointed after the promise of the close season....but I have always had faith in Lee and have said all along we just need a few tweaks and a confidence boost and things will start to happen......and I think we need to make points in a less insulting more constructive manner particularly with regards to players who have been signed who may prove to actually be the final tweak to put us on a run....and also remember that players form can change for the better and that is more likely to happen IMO with encouragement although it is the case that a good kick up the arse can do wonders occasionaly...I'm hoping that recent comments have been such a kick up the kick up the arse and we can all start enjoying our football again together.
Am I mellowing in my old age or something????
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Am I mellowing in my old age or something????
I shouldn't have thought so!
However, you ARE talking a lot of sense. Let's hope some on here take it on board.
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good post from Ballers. best on here for some time.
no reason why fans who care about the club shouldnt ask some tough questions. its not being unrealistic just honest.
ive only been able to go to 2 of the games out of 7 so i cant speak with as much authority as a lot of you but i can still make some points i think are valid.
it does concern me though when i read the tweets from the new captain and our left midfielder saying they are tired and need a holiday in first week of sep.
Suggest Nicky Clee doesnt try and play 2 cricket matches a week as well as 2 football matches in august. he is being paid to play for our club after all even if its not a huge sum. hes hardly relaxing away from the footballl is he!
it concerns me that the players dont appear to be enjoying their football under Sinnott - i know wins will help with that, but they look like they are playing with fear. you can see it.
it concerns me that we have a strike force that for over a year now just keeps on missing good chances to score at vital moments - Reeves at least 3 times this season, Twiss in injury time at Vauxhall
and like some other fans im beginning to lose confidence with the board and the direction of travel of the club - i overheard one director at Vauxhall tell a colleague it was going to be a "long long season". loving the optimism and the leadership when fans are paying the highest admission prices in the division.
i dont think its disastrous -i still think theres a 50/50 chance of sneaking into the play offs, but i dont think it does any harm to flag a few concerns.
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Careful what you wish for.
I'd be worried about the direction of the club if we'd slashed the budget to £1500 a week and appointed a manager who had come 19th in the North West Counties last year or something.
Not happened as far as I can see and to take an overheard comment from a disappointed director as an indicator for the boards plan for the season is poor form. And who says players aren't enjoying their football "under Sinnott"? And should we ship out Reeves?
All ifs and buts but if some of the sloppy defending and lapses of concentration had been cutout we'd be in a very strong league position and this wouldn't be being discussed.
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Having spoken to some of the players they are the complete opposite...
Infact Nicky Clee said to me and trucker the other week that it is so nice to have a manager who instead of going off his head asseses the situation and does what he thinks is right.
Anyone calling for a new managers head this early on is a moron. FACT
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Incidentally I believe that Nicky Clee has not played any cricket since the beginning of pre season training never mind during the season
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Anyone calling for a new managers head this early on is a moron. FACT
Has anyone ACTUALLY called for a new manager?
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Anyone calling for a new managers head this early on is a moron. FACT
Has anyone ACTUALLY called for a new manager?
if they have they need their tiny brains examining.
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
I've read this three times and still don't get it. What's the same as Vauxhall?
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
I've read this three times and still don't get it. What's the same as Vauxhall?
500 equals 500 i think... but thats also the same everywhere... i think
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
I've read this three times and still don't get it. What's the same as Vauxhall?
budget
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What's the same as Vauxhall?
Opel.
As usual the rest of Europe have to be different. :)
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
I've read this three times and still don't get it. What's the same as Vauxhall?
budget
What makes you think that? Are such things published on http://www.bsbnbudgets.com (http://www.bsbnbudgets.com) ?
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
I've read this three times and still don't get it. What's the same as Vauxhall?
budget
Apologies if I seem rude, I don't mean to be but you're post seems devoid of fact.
I very much doubt that there are any people sat at home saying "I'm not coming because my attendance won't increase the budget".
There will be people at home saying "It's too dear" or "I'll go when they win a few" but surely no one doing that.
More people coming in would increase the budget so again not sure what you mean by that. Every spare peny goes into the playing budget from what I know.
And Vauxhalls budget is not the same as ours believe me.
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as far as i can see ballers a lot of people are thinking the same thing in that theres no point me going as im not giving us any advantage becuase it doesnt strenthen our budget as we have the same as vauxhall for example with 500- per game. very irratating. soon we will be down to 500 with this attitude i fear
I've read this three times and still don't get it. What's the same as Vauxhall?
budget
Apologies if I seem rude, I don't mean to be but you're post seems devoid of fact.
I very much doubt that there are any people sat at home saying "I'm not coming because my attendance won't increase the budget".
There will be people at home saying "It's too dear" or "I'll go when they win a few" but surely no one doing that.
More people coming in would increase the budget so again not sure what you mean by that. Every spare peny goes into the playing budget from what I know.
And Vauxhalls budget is not the same as ours believe me.
if its not then it cant be far behind, we struggle to put out a full squad most weeks,
if the budget differance doesnt show on the pitch at all then someones not doing their job properly, and fans will tail off becuase of it