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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: DavidP on August 23, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
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For me it has to be twiss as he holds the ball up well allowing reeves to run in behind the defence. I hear some people calling for astley to play with reeves, sorry astley and reeves are both players who like to run onto the ball which would leave a huge gap between attack and midfield. Just really keen to see if anyone agrees.
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I'm not a fan but he's trying so I think fans are encouraging him, but Whilst twiss hasn't played badly, I certainly don't see him putting in a matchwinning performance this season, in the first half he did his basic hold up job well, in the second half today he was totally unaffective and should have been subbed, he's scored 9 goals in his last 89 appearances so if you think he can help get us promoted don't hold your breath.
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Twiss has has a fairly decent start to the season and, in my opinion, has looked more effective at his role in our attacks than Reeves has been in his.
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Twiss is at least trying harder now and isnt playing too bad but is too static sometimes and lacks pace - Reeves runs his bollocks off every game. If its a choice between reeves and twiss then its a no brainer.
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I said at the end of last season I wouldn't pay to watch him again and now everytime he chests the ball he gets a standing ovation very bizarre situation ;D
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Astley is one for the future. Astley as a game changer sub (like Jonathan Tehoue for Orient) until Twissy eventually retires.
We really need to keep hold of him as pace is what we're missing right now!
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I said at the end of last season I wouldn't pay to watch him again and now everytime he chests the ball he gets a standing ovation very bizarre situation ;D
You've watched football long enough to be able to see an improvement in a players game. Fair play to sticking to guns in your campaign.
Twiss was far better than Reeves tonight.
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I said at the end of last season I wouldn't pay to watch him again and now everytime he chests the ball he gets a standing ovation very bizarre situation ;D
You've watched football long enough to be able to see an improvement in a players game. Fair play to sticking to guns in your campaign.
Twiss was far better than Reeves tonight.
I can't agree with that lol ecky you have also watched football long enough to know that twiss hasn't got what it takes to score anywhere near what we need to go up, I actually admit he should start the game instead of astley but to finish it as well is just shockingly wrong, did nothing second half.
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find something better to do with your time than post a one sided campaign of insults against Michael Twiss on here. No one cares is you hate him that much.
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find something better to do with your time than post a one sided campaign of insults against Michael Twiss on here. No one cares is you hate him that much.
Agreed
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Astley was coming on until they scored - why did THAT make a difference ? We'll never find out if he can hack it in BSN if he doesn't get on the pitch for more than eight minutes every other match !
Twissy did little wrong tonight, but what he did right didn't justify leaving him on. Should have been off around the 75 minute mark in my book.
Maybe Astley would have come on and settled it. Or maybe he'd have come on and been absolute sh*te. But if the lad doesn't come on at all how will we ever find out which is the more likely scenario ?
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find something better to do with your time than post a one sided campaign of insults against Michael Twiss on here. No one cares is you hate him that much.
Agreed
I suggest u remind yourself his contribution since he's been here,steady on guys open your eyes I'm not the only one saying it look at the other posts, there is no insults just debate, I don't hate him just want alty to win
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find something better to do with your time than post a one sided campaign of insults against Michael Twiss on here. No one cares is you hate him that much.
Agreed
I suggest u remind yourself his contribution since he's been here,steady on guys open your eyes I'm not the only one saying it look at the other posts, there is no insults just debate, I don't hate him just want alty to win
Whats the point of harping on about last season? Last season he was fat, sh*t and unarsed but he isn't going to be able to do much about that now.
I'm just making the point that whatever he does you'll not give him any credit which is pretty sad.
The point I am making is that he is fitter, hungrier (possibly literally) and giving 100% this year. Which of course is exactly what a player should be doing.
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find something better to do with your time than post a one sided campaign of insults against Michael Twiss on here. No one cares is you hate him that much.
Agreed
I suggest u remind yourself his contribution since he's been here,steady on guys open your eyes I'm not the only one saying it look at the other posts, there is no insults just debate, I don't hate him just want alty to win
Whats the point of harping on about last season? Last season he was fat, sh*t and unarsed but he isn't going to be able to do much about that now.
I'm just making the point that whatever he does you'll not give him any credit which is pretty sad.
The point I am making is that he is fitter, hungrier (possibly literally) and giving 100% this year. Which of course is exactly what a player should be doing.
ive give him credit for getting fitter and trying, all im saying is..... will this be good enough to help us go up? im not sure, i would say the same about brown too, where as players like reeves will bag 10+, and densmore clee have the quality to take us up for sure, if you can sight weaknesses in the team early on in this league you can bring players in when u want to improve as theres no restrictions, i reckon sinnot will be making plans already
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Michael Twiss was poor last season, of that there is no doubt. However, the concensus also seems to be that he's gone away in the summer, lost a bit of weight and is now trying a lot harder. He'll score goals but probably not as many as Damian Reeves will.
For the record, I don't think that Twiss will ever be able to live up to the level of expectation that we had when he first signed. I reckon a lot of us (myself included) thought we were getting another Colin Little who would bag 20-30 goals a season. In retrospect he's been nothing like the kind of player Colin was and is never going to be either. However, if his improved efforts lead to Damian (or Astley for that matter) scoring more goals then his presence in the team will be completely justified. If someone better comes along and displaces him then so be it, but I think he deserves credit for his attitude and application so far this season.
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Early in the game last night Twiss was very indeed IMO but as the match wore on he tired visibly until with 15 to go he was mostly going through the motions. He WANTED to do it but he couldn't it seemed.
If this is so, we have two options; Bring on Mulholland to inject fresh legs (which we definitely needed at the end of the game last night) or persist until his fitness levels improve further.
I can see benefits in both options but Lee is paid to make that decision.
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find something better to do with your time than post a one sided campaign of insults against Michael Twiss on here. No one cares is you hate him that much.
Agreed
I suggest u remind yourself his contribution since he's been here,steady on guys open your eyes I'm not the only one saying it look at the other posts, there is no insults just debate, I don't hate him just want alty to win
Whats the point of harping on about last season? Last season he was fat, sh*t and unarsed but he isn't going to be able to do much about that now.
I'm just making the point that whatever he does you'll not give him any credit which is pretty sad.
The point I am making is that he is fitter, hungrier (possibly literally) and giving 100% this year. Which of course is exactly what a player should be doing.
ive give him credit for getting fitter and trying, all im saying is..... will this be good enough to help us go up? im not sure, i would say the same about brown too, where as players like reeves will bag 10+, and densmore clee have the quality to take us up for sure, if you can sight weaknesses in the team early on in this league you can bring players in when u want to improve as theres no restrictions, i reckon sinnot will be making plans already
Where the budget will allow,don't forget Twiss is contracted until the end of the season so there is a restriction in that respect.
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It's not really comparing like with like - Twiss drops off defenders and comes deep to hold the ball up and lay it off, Reeves runs the line trying to beat the offside trap and score 'poacher goals'. Twiss and Reeves complement each other and in that way at least, there is no doubt in my mind Twiss should be starting upfront with Reeves.
That said I would have liked to see Astley come on for the last 20 minutes. Being 2-0 up and looking comfortable, I think his pace and his movement off the ball would have caused their defence a few problems, particularly as they were tiring late on.
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On the basis of the performance so far, twiss no doubt, why not ask astley or reeves?
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On the basis of the performance so far, twiss no doubt, why not ask astley or reeves?
Or indeed why not all three ? Twiss operating just in front of midfield and setting the other two free might have some merit.
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This reminds me of when heskey was getting picked all the time as he 'complimented' Owen very well, what a load of bollox!! Playing someone because he can just hold the ball up, lol sounds like pub team ethics
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This reminds me of when heskey was getting picked all the time as he 'complimented' Owen very well, what a load of bollox!! Playing someone because he can just hold the ball up, lol sounds like pub team ethics
I love the idea of Heskey saying, "Great pass Michael, you're very handsome Michael, nice haircut Michael....!"
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This reminds me of when heskey was getting picked all the time as he 'complimented' Owen very well, what a load of bollox!! Playing someone because he can just hold the ball up, lol sounds like pub team ethics
Sheringham was picked for England primarily because aside from being a good footballer, he was a better partner for Shearer than the likes of Ian Wright.
It's precisely the opposite of pub football, it's called tactical nous.
And why have you started using a new account when the bollocks you type is indistinguishable from the crap you posted via the old one?
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This reminds me of when heskey was getting picked all the time as he 'complimented' Owen very well, what a load of bollox!! Playing someone because he can just hold the ball up, lol sounds like pub team ethics
Theres nothing wrong with pub teams :-\
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This reminds me of when heskey was getting picked all the time as he 'complimented' Owen very well, what a load of bollox!! Playing someone because he can just hold the ball up, lol sounds like pub team ethics
Sheringham was picked for England primarily because aside from being a good footballer, he was a better partner for Shearer than the likes of Ian Wright.
It's precisely the opposite of pub football, it's called tactical nous.
And why have you started using a new account when the bollocks you type is indistinguishable from the crap you posted via the old one?
sheringham was picked for England becuase he was brilliant, nothing to do with his strike partner, u do chat some tripe! Anyway my theory will be proved right I'm sure, again!!
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sheringham was picked for England becuase he was brilliant, nothing to do with his strike partner, u do chat some tripe! Anyway my theory will be proved right I'm sure, again!!
I'm intrigued, with this vast knowledge and tactical wizardy, how it is that you're not managing a top European side?
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whopper - Sheringham was only the 4th highest English scorer in 1995-96 in the Premiership, behind Shearer, Fowler and Les Ferdinand. He only scored one more than the great Dion Dublin. He was picked because he complemented Shearer. Anyway, I'm sure I'm distracting you from football manager or something like that.
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Sorry all I can see is people talking absolute sh*t, teddy won the champions league and a lot more premierships than any mentioned so he was obviously better than most strikers we've had
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Sorry all I can see is people talking absolute sh*t, teddy won the champions league and a lot more premierships than any mentioned so he was obviously better than most strikers we've had
he was never first choice striker when he won those trophys, he was alway there as a sub.
you are making yourself look highly moronic. I don't doubt you had some people who agreed with you at the start of all this. however by now you are simply talking out of your arse.
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sheringham was picked for England becuase he was brilliant, nothing to do with his strike partner, u do chat some tripe! Anyway my theory will be proved right I'm sure, again!!
I'm intrigued, with this vast knowledge and tactical wizardy, how it is that you're not managing a top European side?
becuase I want the alty job :o
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Sorry all I can see is people talking absolute sh*t, teddy won the champions league and a lot more premierships than any mentioned so he was obviously better than most strikers we've had
he was never first choice striker when he won those trophys, he was alway there as a sub.
you are making yourself look highly moronic. I don't doubt you had some people who agreed with you at the start of all this. however by now you are simply talking out of your arse.
sorry all I can see is more sh*t being written, fergie actually rotated Cole yorke sheringham solksaar from game to game to get the best out of them, teddy was not a fringe player!!! So erm put that in ya pipe
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Sorry all I can see is people talking absolute sh*t, teddy won the champions league and a lot more premierships than any mentioned so he was obviously better than most strikers we've had
he was never first choice striker when he won those trophys, he was alway there as a sub.
you are making yourself look highly moronic. I don't doubt you had some people who agreed with you at the start of all this. however by now you are simply talking out of your arse.
sorry all I can see is more sh*t being written, fergie actually rotated Cole yorke sheringham solksaar from game to game to get the best out of them, teddy was not a fringe player!!! So erm put that in ya pipe
lets look at the facts shall we?
in the 1998/99 season...
teddy sheringham 11 starts 16 from bench 5 goals
dwight yorke 48 starts 3 from bench 29 goals
andy cole 43 starts 7 from bench 24 goals
ole solskaer 17 starts 20 from bench 18 goals
I put it to you that teddy sherringham was indeed a fringe player who when winning these titles (which happened between 1998-2001 i've taken a pool from his most successfull season).
indeed his most prolific seasons (20 goals or higher) were at second division level (championship).
Lawyered
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And in the 1999-00 season
Sheringham- 19 starts, 22 appearances, 6 goals
Cole- 40 starts, 45 appearances, 22 goals
Yorke- 41 starts, 47 appearances, 24 goals
Solskjaer- 24 starts, 46 appaearances, 15 goals
Corrolation?
I'll call you on putting that in your pipe, and I'll raise you by making you smoke it.
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And in the 1999-00 season
Sheringham- 19 starts, 22 appearances, 6 goals
Cole- 40 starts, 45 appearances, 22 goals
Yorke- 41 starts, 47 appearances, 24 goals
Solskjaer- 24 starts, 46 appaearances, 15 goals
Corrolation?
I'll call you on putting that in your pipe, and I'll raise you by making you smoke it.
hold on 19 starts is not a fringe player! He was every bit as important as the other strikers, Smoke on that, are they including other competitions? His impact in the cl final proved he was pure class, I think u should stop smoking now guys
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The fact remains that Twiss has played well and without him the ball when cleared from defence would just have kept coming back.
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The fact remains that Twiss has played well and without him the ball when cleared from defence would just have kept coming back.
It was coming back all second half with him! I didn't even start this thread but could see he needed to come off in the second half, I'm afraid that's fact, let's hope we learn
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Whopper,what a very apt forum name!
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Whopper,what a very apt forum name!
so is yours :D
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Teddy Sherringham is a class act.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/28/article-1090380-003D7A5A00000258-644_468x411.jpg)
Being a forward isn't all about scoring goals. Most of what Twiss does goes unrecognised. Of the 90 minutes on a pitch a player has the ball for approximately 3 minutes. Surely what Twiss does in the other 87 minutes is of equal importance.
TOTAL FOOTBALL.
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And in the 1999-00 season
Sheringham- 19 starts, 22 appearances, 6 goals
Cole- 40 starts, 45 appearances, 22 goals
Yorke- 41 starts, 47 appearances, 24 goals
Solskjaer- 24 starts, 46 appaearances, 15 goals
Corrolation?
I'll call you on putting that in your pipe, and I'll raise you by making you smoke it.
hold on 19 starts is not a fringe player! He was every bit as important as the other strikers, Smoke on that, are they including other competitions? His impact in the cl final proved he was pure class, I think u should stop smoking now guys
Whopper, please confirm I am correct. And for the record I am now off for a victory smoke.
Oh and 19 starts is fringe when you take into account the number of starts from the numbe one and two strikers had.
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The fact remains that Twiss has played well and without him the ball when cleared from defence would just have kept coming back.
It was coming back all second half with him! I didn't even start this thread but could see he needed to come off in the second half, I'm afraid that's fact, let's hope we learn
Definition of 'fact' Reality; actuality; truth; Sadly, Jacko, and despite your fevered assertions the Twiss situation is a matter of opinion and not reality, actuality or truth - hence not, by definition, a fact
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And in the 1999-00 season
Sheringham- 19 starts, 22 appearances, 6 goals
Cole- 40 starts, 45 appearances, 22 goals
Yorke- 41 starts, 47 appearances, 24 goals
Solskjaer- 24 starts, 46 appaearances, 15 goals
Corrolation?
I'll call you on putting that in your pipe, and I'll raise you by making you smoke it.
hold on 19 starts is not a fringe player! He was every bit as important as the other strikers, Smoke on that, are they including other competitions? His impact in the cl final proved he was pure class, I think u should stop smoking now guys
Whopper, please confirm I am correct. And for the record I am now off for a victory smoke.
Oh and 19 starts is fringe when you take into account the number of starts from the numbe one and two strikers had.
I can now officially confirm I am correct, a fringe player is a squad player that rarely makes a first team impact, teddy is clearly not this, and several utd fans have pointed to his important goals in fa cup and champions league final, so goodnight son try again, clearly u talk sh*te
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FFS