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Title: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: VofD on June 12, 2010, 08:50:09 PM
Should have taken Stu instead:  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: distancetraveller on June 12, 2010, 09:48:16 PM
The best goalie in the squad should have been picked and the ironic thing is that he probably wont even get a game ..... Joe Hart

Carragher to slow. Wright Phillips clueless, King Injured and Barry not fit...

It doesnt look too good does it
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: RocketDan on June 12, 2010, 09:50:55 PM
I am trying to think of a time stuart coburn has minced a ball so badly like that?
any suggestions?
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: OldhamAlty on June 12, 2010, 10:31:25 PM
Quite the howlerl though with the save later at least he showed he's capable of more.

And I can't remember Stu doing anything of the sort!  :)
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Alty Dave on June 12, 2010, 10:38:04 PM
James has made howlers like that, its a pity because it cost us 2 points.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on June 13, 2010, 12:26:59 AM
Should have taken Stu instead:  ;D ;D ;D

VofD,

All I have to say to you is Frank Haffey and Alan Rough......


Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: VofD on June 13, 2010, 12:46:55 PM
Should have taken Stu instead:  ;D ;D ;D

VofD,

All I have to say to you is Frank Haffey and Alan Rough......

Cult,
Never heard of them ;) ;) ;)



Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: SW on June 13, 2010, 02:44:07 PM
These things happen from time to time to most keepers, it's just a shame when it's on a big stage. If it hadn't happened and he'd been beaten by the later effort when he saved well no one would be saying a word.

The USA are very underrated, not the fools of years ago. Most of their squad play in top leagues in Europe.....ok, DeMerit plays for Watford....
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Darren on June 13, 2010, 03:13:54 PM
Quite funny http://2010bc.freeiz.com/
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: joe on June 13, 2010, 05:31:19 PM
The save he made later in the match wasn't as spectacular as everyone is making out. Any keeper worth his salt would've stopped that at his near post and made it look alot more comfortable than Green did!
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: distancetraveller on June 13, 2010, 06:27:29 PM
What do Michael Jackson and Robert Green have in common ?









They both wear gloves for no apparent reason  :D
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Leon on June 13, 2010, 06:43:33 PM
The save he made later in the match wasn't as spectacular as everyone is making out. Any keeper worth his salt would've stopped that at his near post and made it look alot more comfortable than Green did!

Agreed. In fact, he was desperately close to making a big second mistake there but in the end got lucky. It certainly wasn't the 'redemption moment' that some were making it out to be.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: jiminlondon on June 13, 2010, 08:03:55 PM
it was also the first mistake green has made for england and it is not entirely his fault that england failed to beat a limited usa side.
shall we look at the anonymous and negative lampard, rooney who was dreadful etc, or perhaps we should look at the inclusion of king who hasnt been fit for years or carragher who is no longer good enough, picking milner who was ill for several days before, or replacing him with the useless swp (personal opinion) so the central midfield were light, or perhaps heskey and swp who shot straight at the keeper?
no
lets blame the goalkeeper
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: taxi Phil on June 13, 2010, 08:21:33 PM
The save he made later in the match wasn't as spectacular as everyone is making out. Any keeper worth his salt would've stopped that at his near post and made it look alot more comfortable than Green did!

Joe would undoubtedly have held it.........
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: taxi Phil on June 13, 2010, 08:37:15 PM
it was also the first mistake green has made for england and it is not entirely his fault that england failed to beat a limited usa side.
shall we look at the anonymous and negative lampard, rooney who was dreadful etc, or perhaps we should look at the inclusion of king who hasnt been fit for years or carragher who is no longer good enough, picking milner who was ill for several days before, or replacing him with the useless swp (personal opinion) so the central midfield were light, or perhaps heskey and swp who shot straight at the keeper?
no
lets blame the goalkeeper

No, let's blame Capello. Having watched the "highlights" (glad I didn't waste my time on the live game) I'd agree with all of the above. Failed to pick his best keeper (Hart), selected unfit players (King and Milner), persisted in teaming Lampard and Gerrard who simply don't function together, Wright Phillips has deteriorated over the last two seasons but got a gig ahead of Joe Cole (always a potential match winner), Carragher is past his sell by date but got in ahead of both Dawson and Warnock. Heskey played well enough, but my grandson's a better finisher. If Slovenia draw with the USA, and then with us, we could well be lined up for a stuffing from the Germans. Then perhaps the T**ts next door and over the road (she's one UGLY bitch) will take the stupid streamers down that are defacing the area.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: joe on June 13, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
it was also the first mistake green has made for england and it is not entirely his fault that england failed to beat a limited usa side.
shall we look at the anonymous and negative lampard, rooney who was dreadful etc, or perhaps we should look at the inclusion of king who hasnt been fit for years or carragher who is no longer good enough, picking milner who was ill for several days before, or replacing him with the useless swp (personal opinion) so the central midfield were light, or perhaps heskey and swp who shot straight at the keeper?
no
lets blame the goalkeeper

To be fair to SWP he was played out of position on the left which is why IMO Adam Johnson should've been included instead of him because he's equally at home on either wing.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: joe on June 13, 2010, 08:40:49 PM
The save he made later in the match wasn't as spectacular as everyone is making out. Any keeper worth his salt would've stopped that at his near post and made it look alot more comfortable than Green did!

Joe would undoubtedly have held it.........

Joking aside i would have been very disappointed not to turn it around the post quite comfortably.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: jiminlondon on June 13, 2010, 09:06:29 PM

To be fair to SWP he was played out of position on the left which is why IMO Adam Johnson should've been included instead of him because he's equally at home on either wing.

well yes, why take swp. an identikit lennon with even less end product and leave a genuine surprise package at home?
but then why go through qualifying playing upson and then decide there are another 2 centre halves who should play instead?

i have been so impressed with capello until a couple of months ago from which time i think he's done everything wrong
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: tottenham alty on June 13, 2010, 10:25:30 PM
i thought green took it on the chin quite well
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Bath Alty on June 13, 2010, 11:21:27 PM
No great surprises last night really, who didn't already know:

a) Fabio had forgotten to pick a left winger in his 23
b) Heskey plays well but can't score for toffee no matter how simple the chance
c) Carragher and Terry are too slow for international level
d) at every world cup some England player does smoothing stupid (Rooney,Seaman,Beckham,Waddle,Wilkins ....)
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: casper on June 14, 2010, 12:13:12 AM
To be fair to Green, the mistake by the Algerian keeper was worse. This new ball thing seems to have many keepers confused as well, though the way the germans were knocking it about was quite good.
No great surprises last night really, who didn't already know:

a) Fabio had forgotten to pick a left winger in his 23
b) Heskey plays well but can't score for toffee no matter how simple the chance
c) Carragher and Terry are too slow for international level
d) at every world cup some England player does smoothing stupid (Rooney,Seaman,Beckham,Waddle,Wilkins ....)

Fully agree. Think is just shows how poor the premiersh*te has been for the national team. Carragher shouldn't have been anywhere near the final 23, nor should King. But then again, we dont exactly have many world class players.

As for gerrard and Lamps, they are both similar players. One plays with world class players every week, the other with a load of halfwits, who make him look like superman.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Dougals Dad on June 14, 2010, 01:05:10 AM
I can't remember the last time Lampard had a good game for England -  he was anonymous the other night.
Terry is very much overrated.
Carragher turned his back on England - he should not be allowed back.
Heskey had a very good game - but you expect a forward to be able to score.
Wright Phillips - why?

Green made an almighty blooper, but England should not be relying on a 1 goal lead. We are not as good as the media seem to make out.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: hsmith1 on June 14, 2010, 05:57:41 AM
To be fair,i thought we might struggle against the Yanks.people are correct about Green with his redemtion moment,it could very easily been an own goal.I was glad wright philips got a game,just a pity on the wrong wing.Would never play Terry again in an england shirt.Lampard did nothing for most of the game.Rooney did come alive in the second half.Must have plugged him into the electric during halftime.Our trouble is we never seem to want to finish teams off once we get in front,i am a firm believer of going for the throat.United (spits on the floor) used to do that in their home games in Europe a few years back and England need to learn how to do it,just no pace there.its all done at a stroll
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: taxi Phil on June 14, 2010, 07:35:18 AM
Having just watched the highlights of yesterday's matches (which is my limit) I'd conclude that we won't have any trouble with Algeria, who are VERY poor, and that we should struggle past Slovenia. BUT if we find ourselves in the runners-up spot and have to play Germany, they look capable of revenging that famous 5-0, and will probably take great delight in doing so.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: CB on June 14, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Loving the fact that people who swore off watching any England/World Cup matches are now offering opinions on the basis of a few minutes highlights.

Gerrard and Lampard played well together, Heskey and Lennon also impressed too. Rooney played poorly, but I'm sure it'll come together for him. On the whole I think we deserved to win. I think Green's mistake knocked everyone's confidence and if it wasn't for that I think we could have gone on for a comfortable win.

It's early days, worry not.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: joe on June 14, 2010, 09:05:44 AM
Loving the fact that people who swore off watching any England/World Cup matches are now offering opinions on the basis of a few minutes highlights.

Gerrard and Lampard played well together, Heskey and Lennon also impressed too. Rooney played poorly, but I'm sure it'll come together for him. On the whole I think we deserved to win. I think Green's mistake knocked everyone's confidence and if it wasn't for that I think we could have gone on for a comfortable win.

It's early days, worry not.

You must have been watching a different game to me! Lennon didn't put a decent cross in all match!
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Jacko on June 14, 2010, 09:10:03 AM
Its a case of getting the bad luck out of the way now for me, I think Germany were made to look good against a shocking Aussie side anyway, I also see us playing France and beating them in the second round and by then all this will be forgotten
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on June 14, 2010, 10:03:21 AM
We can't play France in the second round, I reckon it will either be Germany or Ghana.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: taxi Phil on June 14, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
Loving the fact that people who swore off watching any England/World Cup matches are now offering opinions on the basis of a few minutes highlights.

Gerrard and Lampard played well together, Heskey and Lennon also impressed too. Rooney played poorly, but I'm sure it'll come together for him. On the whole I think we deserved to win. I think Green's mistake knocked everyone's confidence and if it wasn't for that I think we could have gone on for a comfortable win.

It's early days, worry not.

Afew minutes highlights and the full commentary on Radio 5 Live actually. I could, for example, give you a very accurate assessment of Histon from watching them for about 2 minutes. More than that would be a waste of time that could be better spent - and the same applies to England.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: jiminlondon on June 14, 2010, 08:51:39 PM
I see the german firm adidas supplied the controversial ball to the bundesliga for the last 6 months, oh and to the adidas sponsored Argentina too. Now which two sides have been able to control it....?
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on June 14, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
I see the german firm adidas supplied the controversial ball to the bundesliga for the last 6 months, oh and to the adidas sponsored Argentina too. Now which two sides have been able to control it....?

All that tells me is that two of the best sides in the competition have been the best at controlling the ball.

I refuse to entertain the notion that there's some major "ball roundness conspiracy" taking place!  :D
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: brian1925 on June 14, 2010, 09:02:12 PM
We had the best part of 50 minutes to get a winner and didn't even look like scoring. Blaming the keeper is utterly pointless, as so far, both the germans and the argies would tonk us.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Mick on June 14, 2010, 10:29:51 PM

d) at every world cup some England player does smoothing stupid (Rooney,Seaman,Beckham,Waddle,Wilkins ....)

What did Waddle do beside have an extremely laughable mullet haircut, take a woeful penalty and play for Worksop ?
Plenty of others have missed a penalty; Stuart Pearce, Gareth Southgate and of course who will forget that penalty miss by David Batty......even his own father could not believe he had stepped up for it.

My greatest moment watching England - The first minute goal by San Marino (Mr Pearce).........do I not like orange
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Longman on June 15, 2010, 07:09:13 PM
Loving the fact that people who swore off watching any England/World Cup matches are now offering opinions on the basis of a few minutes highlights.

Gerrard and Lampard played well together, Heskey and Lennon also impressed too. Rooney played poorly, but I'm sure it'll come together for him. On the whole I think we deserved to win. I think Green's mistake knocked everyone's confidence and if it wasn't for that I think we could have gone on for a comfortable win.

It's early days, worry not.

Afew minutes highlights and the full commentary on Radio 5 Live actually. I could, for example, give you a very accurate assessment of Histon from watching them for about 2 minutes. More than that would be a waste of time that could be better spent - and the same applies to England.

Don't watch the highlights then if it's a waste of time, your negative agenda towards England and the World Cup is embarrasing.

I thought you were completely boycotting the tournament?  Yet you are watching the highlights and listening to games on the radio!??
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: joe on June 15, 2010, 08:10:49 PM
Hopefully England won't even get out of the group to save them the embarrassment of getting outclassed by anyone half decent.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: jiminlondon on June 15, 2010, 08:38:50 PM
Have to love these Koreans
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: York Alty on June 15, 2010, 08:45:59 PM
Loving the fact that people who swore off watching any England/World Cup matches are now offering opinions on the basis of a few minutes highlights.

Gerrard and Lampard played well together, Heskey and Lennon also impressed too. Rooney played poorly, but I'm sure it'll come together for him. On the whole I think we deserved to win. I think Green's mistake knocked everyone's confidence and if it wasn't for that I think we could have gone on for a comfortable win.

It's early days, worry not.

Afew minutes highlights and the full commentary on Radio 5 Live actually. I could, for example, give you a very accurate assessment of Histon from watching them for about 2 minutes. More than that would be a waste of time that could be better spent - and the same applies to England.

Don't watch the highlights then if it's a waste of time, your negative agenda towards England and the World Cup is embarrasing.


I think the world cup is a corporate love-fest.  I am not watching it, not seen a minute, a pass, a goal...nothing.  not listened to any games.  I know it's a corporate love-fest by the adverts, billboards, adverts etc.  The sooner it is over and we get back to Alty FC the better,

I don't care who wins.  Don't give a toss.

It's almost a different game...

That level of fotoy holds zero interest to me, truly am not arsed on iota.

I thought you were completely boycotting the tournament?  Yet you are watching the highlights and listening to games on the radio!??

Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Ballers on June 15, 2010, 10:23:42 PM
it was also the first mistake green has made for england

Entirely incorrect!!!


I think we might have gone on to win that game without the mistake but without analysing it to much I would sum up the performance as providing more questions than answers.


As a side note, SWP had a good game in the sense that he neutralised the Yanks best player in Landon Donavan with his constant running. Donavan's influence gradually started to wane and SWP deserves credit for that, regardless of his ability (or lack) in other areas of the game. I think that's why Milner was picked ahead of Joe Cole, but I'm surprised he was risked as anyone who has a form of temerature or virus in the week leading up to a game is always way off the pace.
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: taxi Phil on June 15, 2010, 11:55:01 PM
Afew minutes highlights and the full commentary on Radio 5 Live actually. I could, for example, give you a very accurate assessment of Histon from watching them for about 2 minutes. More than that would be a waste of time that could be better spent - and the same applies to England.
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Don't watch the highlights then if it's a waste of time, your negative agenda towards England and the World Cup is embarrasing.

I thought you were completely boycotting the tournament?  Yet you are watching the highlights and listening to games on the radio!??

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I didn't say I was completely boycotting the tournament - I said I wouldn't be watching the matches. By picking out bits from the highlights, and listening to sections of games on 5 Live between jobs, I can miss out all the irrelevant commercial sh*te (eg Hyundai ads) and still have my finger on the pulse. I am, after all, a betting man !

However, confession is good for the soul. Coming home to an empty house at half time last night, I lapsed and watched the second half of Italy v Paruguay - with the sound off !
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: D.A. ALTY on June 16, 2010, 03:05:45 AM
rooney was quiet for the game because he had at least one man , man marking him , and as soon as he got the ball, he was 2 or 3 man marked . thus out of  the game !! and this will continue throught the tournament,  because without him we are NOTHING !!!
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Jezza on June 16, 2010, 10:46:08 AM
The Korean keeper made an absolute howler for Brazil's first ....reminding me of Andy Dibble allowing a Lancaster player to do him at the near post......let's see Jennifer's dad make a double entendre out of that one if he can!
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on June 16, 2010, 11:43:01 AM
The Korean keeper made an absolute howler for Brazil's first ....reminding me of Andy Dibble allowing a Lancaster player to do him at the near post......let's see Jennifer's dad make a double entendre out of that one if he can!

Jezza,

And wasn't that Lancaster City player a certain Peter Thomson, who had an unspectacular spell at Alty in recent times...?



 
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Dougals Dad on June 16, 2010, 12:02:10 PM
The Korean keeper made an absolute howler for Brazil's first ....reminding me of Andy Dibble allowing a Lancaster player to do him at the near post......let's see Jennifer's dad make a double entendre out of that one if he can!

Better than doing him with a near post!

Hang on! Have I got a reputation or something!
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: (S)ALTY on June 16, 2010, 12:11:55 PM
The Korean keeper made an absolute howler for Brazil's first ....reminding me of Andy Dibble allowing a Lancaster player to do him at the near post......let's see Jennifer's dad make a double entendre out of that one if he can!

Better than doing him with a near post!

Hang on! Have I got a reputation or something!

That could be painful ?  ;)
Title: Re: ROBERT GREEN
Post by: Butty on June 16, 2010, 05:21:41 PM
rooney was quiet for the game because he had at least one man , man marking him , and as soon as he got the ball, he was 2 or 3 man marked . thus out of  the game !! and this will continue throught the tournament,  because without him we are NOTHING !!!

Well the fault lies with the players around him - if there is 3 players marking Rooney, that leaves 2 other England players free, and if they cant shoot, cross or pass with no pressure, you have to wonder why they are playing for England