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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on February 16, 2016, 09:55:54 PM
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Too many changes to personnel was our ultimate undoing on the pitch. Off the pitch patted on the head again. I sought out the gaffer amongst the police in attendance and asked him why Chester supporters were allowed in to the home end ten minutes in to the game. He assured me as an officer who is in attendance most home games they wanted Chester supporters on the away end, and no where else. And it certainly wasn't their decision to seed home advantage in a relegation battle. Once the first smoke bomb went off it seemed to sap the atmosphere that was being created in the first ten minutes. A great home attendance on a dreadful champions league night, most of whom new or long standing were forced to stand in a building site in the second half. We had 1000+ Barnsley supporters here in a monsoon with no issue. It was a relegation six pointer and we put the comfort of a couple of hundred Chester fans ahead of our supporters and our survival in this league. We can console ourselves as Gainsborough go 2 n up in August that at least Reg from saltney had a comfortable night out. I'll say nothing else on the matter except we may come to regret being such a soft touch, and Inhope many of the new faces here tonight due to half term give it a go again despite being overlooked for those from Chester.
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Second half there were a good thirty Chester on the Golf Road. I noticed as I was walking out. Laughable, it really is.
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Second half there were a good thirty Chester on the Golf Road. I noticed as I was walking out. Laughable, it really is.
not the first time that and there has been trouble before when we will learn this is a derby ?
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Shambles of a performance tonight. Its not Lee's fault that Jordan has an ankle injury but why does he insist on playing Scott Leather at right back? He is woeful in that position and it just disrupts the central partnership between him and Marcus.
Should have taken off Margetts as soon as Richman went off injured and brought on Lawrie to play in the middle. We were always going to get over run in the centre without Simon's energy and an extra body in there would have helped.
Segregation issue is a joke, but when are the club going to return the popular side back to normal and remove the ridiculous amounts of scaffolding? Alty TV is great but not at the expense of enjoying the game live from a once excellent point in the ground.
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That was almost as bad as the Braintree debacle. Only Marcus Holness emerged with any credit. Chester were better organised and had come with a positive attitude. If we had a single shot on target I must have blinked and missed it.
Nights like this make me wonder why I bother.
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but when are the club going to return the popular side back to normal and remove the ridiculous amounts of scaffolding? Alty TV is great but not at the expense of enjoying the game live from a once excellent point in the ground.
OK, I’ll bite.
Not only does the scaffolding provide a home for the superb FREE Radio Robins and Alty TV services, but it’s also a home for cameras recording for BT Sport and The FA – both league requirements.
It is also home to MUTV when united play games at Moss Lane.
While far from ideal, it is the most logical place in the ground for such a facility.
I’m sure all involved would love it to be permanently anchored to the roof so to not obstruct the view of the fans, it’s a compromise at best.
Perhaps you’d like to forward your views to the ground committee, maybe even join up and help make a difference?
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Woeful performance that, and against a team at the same level as us budget/ player/ part time status wise. Leather at right back was horrendous. Holness out paced for the non penalty, but at least spent time talking to Heathcote, who incidentally didn't have a bad game but isn't quite polished yet, he will be a good player though. I agree that as soon as Richman went off we should've brought Lawrie on and took Margetts off, a poor showing from him. The ball seemed to bounce off Rankine everytime he tried to hold it up. Poor Deasy made two point blank saves in a goal mouth scramble and yet still the ball gets bundled in.
Nearly everyone had an off night. Can't feel sorry for ourselves need to dust ourselves down and go again Saturday.
The farce letting the Chester fans on the side terrace is extraordinary.
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but when are the club going to return the popular side back to normal and remove the ridiculous amounts of scaffolding? Alty TV is great but not at the expense of enjoying the game live from a once excellent point in the ground.
OK, I’ll bite.
Not only does the scaffolding provide a home for the superb FREE Radio Robins and Alty TV services, but it’s also a home for cameras recording for BT Sport and The FA – both league requirements.
It is also home to MUTV when united play games at Moss Lane.
While far from ideal, it is the most logical place in the ground for such a facility.
I’m sure all involved would love it to be permanently anchored to the roof so to not obstruct the view of the fans, it’s a compromise at best.
Perhaps you’d like to forward your views to the ground committee, maybe even join up and help make a difference?
If it's acknowledged its "far from ideal" why are the regular supporters overlooked for 231 supporters from Chester? We've had bigger from the last two away games with no issues and the the 'perfect formula' was clearly found against Barnsley in monsoon conditions. Sorry but tonight was simply not good enough. I rarely publically air negatives views about the club, but tonight of all nights with so many first timers or first midweekers, probably due to the half term holidays was out of order. You could sense the atmosphere drain from the crowd as soon as that happened (they scored 3 minutes later and ignited smoke bombs). The psychological war was lost, in a relegation six pointer. The team don't opt to shoot towards the golf road end first half to be faced nothing on the second half. We keep being told how important the fans are, so show us a little respect, as paying customers if nothing else.
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If it's acknowledged its "far from ideal" why are the regular supporters overlooked for 231 supporters from Chester? We've had bigger from the last two away games with no issues and the the 'perfect formula' was clearly found against Barnsley in monsoon conditions. Sorry but tonight was simply not good enough. I rarely publically air negatives views about the club, but tonight of all nights with so many first timers or first midweekers, probably due to the half term holidays was out of order. You could sense the atmosphere drain from the crowd as soon as that happened (they scored 3 minutes later and ignited smoke bombs). The psychological war was lost, in a relegation six pointer. The team don't opt to shoot towards the golf road end first half to be faced nothing on the second half. We keep being told how important the fans are, so show us a little respect, as paying customers if nothing else.
I've no idea Pete, you'd have to ask whoever made that decision, I can only speak from my involvement with Alty TV/BT Sport/Radio Robins.
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but when are the club going to return the popular side back to normal and remove the ridiculous amounts of scaffolding? Alty TV is great but not at the expense of enjoying the game live from a once excellent point in the ground.
OK, I’ll bite.
Not only does the scaffolding provide a home for the superb FREE Radio Robins and Alty TV services, but it’s also a home for cameras recording for BT Sport and The FA – both league requirements.
It is also home to MUTV when united play games at Moss Lane.
While far from ideal, it is the most logical place in the ground for such a facility.
I’m sure all involved would love it to be permanently anchored to the roof so to not obstruct the view of the fans, it’s a compromise at best.
Perhaps you’d like to forward your views to the ground committee, maybe even join up and help make a difference?
If it's acknowledged its "far from ideal" why are the regular supporters overlooked for 231 supporters from Chester? We've had bigger from the last two away games with no issues and the the 'perfect formula' was clearly found against Barnsley in monsoon conditions. Sorry but tonight was simply not good enough. I rarely publically air negatives views about the club, but tonight of all nights with so many first timers or first midweekers, probably due to the half term holidays was out of order. You could sense the atmosphere drain from the crowd as soon as that happened (they scored 3 minutes later and ignited smoke bombs). The psychological war was lost, in a relegation six pointer. The team don't opt to shoot towards the golf road end first half to be faced nothing on the second half. We keep being told how important the fans are, so show us a little respect, as paying customers if nothing else.
So, so true. The second their fans started to walk into OUR terrace, the atmosphere turned. For the second half we had no chance as vocal fans when we were blocked out of the area we are entitled to. Farce.
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I won't make any judgement's in relation to the motivational benefits of having our singers in the final third of the popside.
Instead I will simply moan about the basics - Second half, I had a choice of staying reasonably dry and having a poor view of the pitch in either direction due to various obstructions or having a good view by standing out in rain on the hoardings. The Chester fans had both shelter and a good view
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I won't make any judgement's in relation to the motivational benefits of having our singers in the final third of the popside.
Instead I will simply moan about the basics - Second half, I had a choice of staying reasonably dry and having a poor view of the pitch in either direction due to various obstructions or having a good view by standing out in rain on the hoardings. The Chester fans had both shelter and a good view
You are spot on, Mick. When you give away fans that part of the popular side the fencing, scaffolding etc. in place makes it worse for the home fans. Which other club treats its away fans better than the home ones? I know thats not the intention but that is how it comes across.
If the club can make a statement pleading for more support and income it can make a statement as to why the segregation was what it was. An explanation is owed.
We seem to go round and round in circles about this. It isnt ideal, and the money clearly isnt there to add a roof or improve the gantry or fencing. But to make the best of the situation you put your own fans first. This isnt happening.
As for the match we were utter sh*te.
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Very poor performance, not seen us play so badly for ages, looked like we were well and truly sussed out (with chester not having a game I bet they had loads of management here on sat). should have been 5.
Segregation decision benefited only Chester fans and made the view for alty fans very poor, terrible decision
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but when are the club going to return the popular side back to normal and remove the ridiculous amounts of scaffolding? Alty TV is great but not at the expense of enjoying the game live from a once excellent point in the ground.
OK, I’ll bite.
Not only does the scaffolding provide a home for the superb FREE Radio Robins and Alty TV services, but it’s also a home for cameras recording for BT Sport and The FA – both league requirements.
It is also home to MUTV when united play games at Moss Lane.
While far from ideal, it is the most logical place in the ground for such a facility.
I’m sure all involved would love it to be permanently anchored to the roof so to not obstruct the view of the fans, it’s a compromise at best.
Perhaps you’d like to forward your views to the ground committee, maybe even join up and help make a difference?
I think everyone understands the concept of what scaffolding does Dan.
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Awful performance , awful weather , awful decision to let their fans in to pop side , and to top it all had a puncture on way home. >:(
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I'll leave aside the scaffolding/segregation issue other than to say we shouldn't pander to smacked arses away fans and the priority should always be those who pay £14 on a cold wet night to watch us, because if you're dismissive of them then one day they won't be there...
Anyway, the game, Jesus that was one of the worst in living memory. At least away at Macc we threatened a bit. I hate people who don't give credit to the oppo so I'll say that Chester were more committed, organised and were lovely on the ball but honestly we were awful.
I was very disappointed with Lee Sinnott last night. 4-5-1 has always worked well the Chester so why this desire to play 4-4-2 all the time now. They raced up the middle of the park against us at will from the minute go for Gods sake. After conceding six goals in two games (with two missed penalties) can we just him it off?
Why the hell was Rankine playing? You don't pull out of a game on Saturday because of a virus or flu and then be fit to play on a Tuesday. That's never happened. Needless to say he was yards of the pace (although he did improve later on) and all we did was lump balls towards him that Chesters 3 giant centre halves mopped up all night long.
Jonathan Margetts - this lads a lazy waste of space, didn't challenge for a header all night, gave the ball away and stood watching as Chester ran off with it, pathetic work rate. If he's being picked purely to satisfy the loan arrangement (and I don't necessarily have a problem with that principle) then it's time to rip the agreement up. We've got a striker ten times the player he is on the bench.
Reeves - I don't know if Sinnott has fallen out with him or if he's just being too clever by half but let me just say that leaving Damien on the bench for two months is proven to be a guaranteed way of being relegated. Get this lad on the pitch, ideally with Lawrie.
Hope Richman is better - O'Keefe looked very rusty.
I didn't enjoy a single part of my night from start to finish last night. The only bright spot was that Deasy wasn't sent off - can only assume ref wasn't sure whether Deasy, Holness or Heathcote clipped him - I've never seen a red card not come out on such a clear goal scoring opportunity. We were a whisker away from playing Guiseley on Saturday with a youth/reserve team keeper making his debut.
Shambolic from start to finish - on and off the pitch.
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Unable to get to Moss lane due to my wife being seriously ill.
All I want to say is regarding the segregation problem ( which has been a particular beef of mine over the years) is.
Same old Same old. There obviously isn't any real urgency or keenness to rectify this age old problem by the football club otherwise the club wouldn't keep doing this. The Chester fans could have easily been put in the away end behind the goal.
As passionate forumites have stated on numerous occasions especially when we play crucial games ie 6 pointers against local opposition the club frustrate home fans by ensuring away fans are nice and cosy whilst the Alty faithful are treated like lepers.
We need to make the most of our home game advantage.
The cost to rectify this problem is virtually zero pence. Just use the away end for what its meant for. The clue is in the description ie AWAY end.
Keep letting this situation fester and one day those same passionate fans may not be there anymore.
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Sorry to hear your news Ray - hope things improve soon
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Give Jill my love Ray....I'll be rooting for you both.
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Thanks for that guys. It means a lot.
She starts her chemo next week
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I met up with an old mate from my teens last night who I'd not seen for way over 10 years. I bumped into him at a funeral last week and was telling him how well Alty were playing at the moment (we used to go together about 25 years ago) and we agreed to go to the match together last night. He's a United supporter but a bit disillusioned with them at the moment and possibly looking for another option to follow.
Needless to say the playing didn't happen and then the fiasco with being kept out of our own second half spot on the Poplar side and ending up with a less than great position away from the main atmosphere (the singing area in between the Chester fans and the gantry was already rammed by the time we got there) and with lots of things obstructing parts of the view did nothing to sell Alty FC to him.
We did have a good old natter and a good old laugh though, which was really good. Just a shame about the football.
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I'll leave aside the scaffolding/segregation issue other than to say we shouldn't pander to smacked arses away fans and the priority should always be those who pay £14 on a cold wet night to watch us, because if you're dismissive of them then one day they won't be there...
Anyway, the game, Jesus that was one of the worst in living memory. At least away at Macc we threatened a bit. I hate people who don't give credit to the oppo so I'll say that Chester were more committed, organised and were lovely on the ball but honestly we were awful.
I was very disappointed with Lee Sinnott last night. 4-5-1 has always worked well the Chester so why this desire to play 4-4-2 all the time now. They raced up the middle of the park against us at will from the minute go for Gods sake. After conceding six goals in two games (with two missed penalties) can we just him it off?
Why the hell was Rankine playing? You don't pull out of a game on Saturday because of a virus or flu and then be fit to play on a Tuesday. That's never happened. Needless to say he was yards of the pace (although he did improve later on) and all we did was lump balls towards him that Chesters 3 giant centre halves mopped up all night long.
Jonathan Margetts - this lads a lazy waste of space, didn't challenge for a header all night, gave the ball away and stood watching as Chester ran off with it, pathetic work rate. If he's being picked purely to satisfy the loan arrangement (and I don't necessarily have a problem with that principle) then it's time to rip the agreement up. We've got a striker ten times the player he is on the bench.
Reeves - I don't know if Sinnott has fallen out with him or if he's just being too clever by half but let me just say that leaving Damien on the bench for two months is proven to be a guaranteed way of being relegated. Get this lad on the pitch, ideally with Lawrie.
Hope Richman is better - O'Keefe looked very rusty.
I didn't enjoy a single part of my night from start to finish last night. The only bright spot was that Deasy wasn't sent off - can only assume ref wasn't sure whether Deasy, Holness or Heathcote clipped him - I've never seen a red card not come out on such a clear goal scoring opportunity. We were a whisker away from playing Guiseley on Saturday with a youth/reserve team keeper making his debut.
Shambolic from start to finish - on and off the pitch.
Spoke to Deasy after the game.
He never touched the player.
There was no red card because their player was running away from goal.
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Running away from an open goal!
I don't know. That might be the reason but 99% of the time a ref would have sent Deasy off regardless.
In that respect we got lucky.
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Running away from an open goal!
I don't know. That might be the reason but 99% of the time a ref would have sent Deasy off regardless.
In that respect we got lucky.
From where I was stood it was the most blatant dive I have ever seen and the lad should have been embarrassed when he got awarded the penalty. I think the guy who took it must have thought the same which is why he ballooned it over the bar!
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Can somebody please tell me why we always seem to kick off every game playing to the Golf Road end?
Surely it is more advantageous kicking to the covered Golf Road end in the second half where the covered stands enhance the sound of the supporters. We seem to start 90% of our games kicking to the Golf Road end, but I am not convinced who lose the same amount of coin tosses at the start.
I know this isn't the Old Trafford of old, but feel the atmosphere during the second half should work to our advantage playing to the Golf Road.
Any other comments??
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Can somebody please tell me why we always seem to kick off every game playing to the Golf Road end?
Surely it is more advantageous kicking to the covered Golf Road end in the second half where the covered stands enhance the sound of the supporters. We seem to start 90% of our games kicking to the Golf Road end, but I am not convinced who lose the same amount of coin tosses at the start.
I know this isn't the Old Trafford of old, but feel the atmosphere during the second half should work to our advantage playing to the Golf Road.
Any other comments??
Fair point
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A bad two days overall as a club. Firstly the pessimistic view of our finances (although a genuine and honest plea for help), poor team performance combined with peeving off the same fans targeted to help, by opening the old wound of molly cuddling soft away fans at the expense of our fans - especially from a club that has treated our fans badly in the recent past. We are no longer in the 1970's when provocative away fans got a good kicking, ran off, so problem quickly solved (I am not suggesting that this was right). We all make mistakes at work and in our lives, so it is not fair to keep having a pop at those that run and help the club. We are not going to progress by infighting and slating those Alty fans/directors that give their all for this club. We are not going to get extra help if those who help get criticised and ridiculed for doing so, whether on this forum or elsewhere. We are very lucky that this club is run by fans that have the club genuinely close to their hearts, and to be fair they give their all.
The reality also is that last season we were very fortunate with injuries and fewer postponements. We have not been so lucky this season and hopefully we can weather the storm. The club has tried to solve the problem by bringing in 4 loan signings, so they are not exactly doing nothing. One season of bad luck can cripple a club for years - Leeds United is a classic example. The club does listen to fans - borrowing those covers from LCCC is an example.
We all want the best for Alty and we all get disheartened and frustrated when things don't work or we don't win games that we expect to win or draw. We all think it unfair that we play by the rules while other clubs, such as Crawley progress. Life aint fair. From some of the stupid comments on this forum, you would think that the management and team deliberately sometimes set out to fail. However there have been also some good ideas such as some recent marketing suggestions posted.
Now is the time to get behind the team and behind the club and help where you can - Come on Alty!!!!!!
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Can somebody please tell me why we always seem to kick off every game playing to the Golf Road end?
Surely it is more advantageous kicking to the covered Golf Road end in the second half where the covered stands enhance the sound of the supporters. We seem to start 90% of our games kicking to the Golf Road end, but I am not convinced who lose the same amount of coin tosses at the start.
I know this isn't the Old Trafford of old, but feel the atmosphere during the second half should work to our advantage playing to the Golf Road.
Any other comments??
iv thought that for years because it's not a new thing
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Probably the same reason both teams warm up in front of opposition fans!
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Think most of the glory days in the 70s and 80s were 2nd half golf road
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Can somebody please tell me why we always seem to kick off every game playing to the Golf Road end?
Surely it is more advantageous kicking to the covered Golf Road end in the second half where the covered stands enhance the sound of the supporters. We seem to start 90% of our games kicking to the Golf Road end, but I am not convinced who lose the same amount of coin tosses at the start.
I know this isn't the Old Trafford of old, but feel the atmosphere during the second half should work to our advantage playing to the Golf Road.
Any other comments??
iv thought that for years because it's not a new thing
Did we used to attack the Golf Rd in the second half in the 90s?
I have a vague recollection that we used to.
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Can somebody please tell me why we always seem to kick off every game playing to the Golf Road end?
Surely it is more advantageous kicking to the covered Golf Road end in the second half where the covered stands enhance the sound of the supporters. We seem to start 90% of our games kicking to the Golf Road end, but I am not convinced who lose the same amount of coin tosses at the start.
I know this isn't the Old Trafford of old, but feel the atmosphere during the second half should work to our advantage playing to the Golf Road.
Any other comments??
Agree 100% with this, surely attacking an end full of your fans spurring you on can be nothing but a positive.
Also if the club continue with allowing the away fans into the pop side it wouldn't put us at so much of a disadvantage come second half and we would be able to actually see the game.
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My memory is that we generally kicked towards the Golf Rd in the 2nd half in the 80s and well into the 90s, certainly, and it makes more sense that way, just as Liverpool, say, generally attack the Kop end in the 2nd half.
I suspect it's something that evolved by accident - initially when the home changing room moved and we started entering the field between the Main Stand and the Family Stand, meaning we naturally warmed up at the Chequers end, leading to attacking the Golf Rd end 1st half being the default position. I don't know why it happens now though - we emerge on the Chequers side of the tunnel which, after the handshakes, should take us out towards the Golf Rd.
It's a small detail but the sort of thing a really meticulous manager would correct and I do believe it would make a difference, and a bigger one than the players and management might think.
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Of course, it could just be that we keep losing the toss.
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We all make mistakes at work and in our lives, so it is not fair to keep having a pop at those that run and help the club.
I do appreciate what you're saying, but it should work both ways. The way our fans have been treated over the segregation/Popular Side issue is very, very poor.
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Of course, it could just be that we keep losing the toss.
i agree however i think the frustration is its the same mistake over and over again against fans with history
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Of course, it could just be that we keep losing the toss.
Every week for years
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I heard its because the players prefer for the away team to attack to no one in the second half as they have us on the side roaring them on towards the chequers end, somthing the also gets lost when we get bullied by 200 smacked arses from Chester that haven't got a raincoat. That's not me being sarcastic, that's what I heard a while back after posing the same question. After stewing on Tuesday night for a couple of days, I think the only way forward is to give the family stand seats to away supporters. I know this might upset a few people but it far outweighs upsetting the majority. Observations from Tuesday night, home fans that stand up annoyed that the middle section of the pop side was so full people where left with little choice but to opt for a restricted view or get piss what through. People in the main stand being taunted by gloating away supporters. Supporters conversations in the bar at half time being interjected by Chester supporters who got in their via sitting in the main stand.
On that basis, match sponsors have their meals etc in the sponsors lounge pre match, are then taken to the padded seating within the main stand. At half time they are entertained within a dedicated area of the csh or in the Vice Presidents lounge. The chequers end and the small seated stand are is for away supporters, they can use the Vice Presidents lounge at half time as a can/bottle bar entering the side door nearest the main stand thus no need to go anywhere near the offices. This would
Mean NO away supporters would have any reason to go in any home area of the stadium, and they could still get a drink at half time. There's no easy answer, but I think this is the best solution, it worked superbly against Barnsley, and only needs implementing for certain fixtures. After being 2 goals down and talking in the home clubs bar at half time amongst friends I really don't need some prick from Chester interjecting uninvited in to the conversation.
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They can sit in the stand anyway
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They can sit in the stand anyway
If they had dedicated away seating they could be told they couldn't sit in the main stand, and would be thrown out/moved like at most other grounds if they did
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Unable to get to Moss lane due to my wife being seriously ill.
All I want to say is regarding the segregation problem ( which has been a particular beef of mine over the years) is.
Same old Same old. There obviously isn't any real urgency or keenness to rectify this age old problem by the football club otherwise the club wouldn't keep doing this. The Chester fans could have easily been put in the away end behind the goal.
As passionate forumites have stated on numerous occasions especially when we play crucial games ie 6 pointers against local opposition the club frustrate home fans by ensuring away fans are nice and cosy whilst the Alty faithful are treated like lepers.
We need to make the most of our home game advantage.
The cost to rectify this problem is virtually zero pence. Just use the away end for what its meant for. The clue is in the description ie AWAY end.
Keep letting this situation fester and one day those same passionate fans may not be there anymore.
Hope everything turns out ok for your wife Ray.
Thinking of you both.
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It took us 86 minutes to muster our first shot on target against a goalkeeper who was making his debut for Chester.
Steve Burr himself could have played in goal for them.
An utter embarrassment of poverty.
Unacceptable.....both on and off the pitch.
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It took us 86 minutes to muster our first shot on target against a goalkeeper who was making his debut for Chester.
Steve Burr himself could have played in goal for them.
An utter embarrassment of poverty.
Unacceptable.....both on and off the pitch.
You're lucky.....you only had a restricted view !
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It took us 86 minutes to muster our first shot on target against a goalkeeper who was making his debut for Chester.
Steve Burr himself could have played in goal for them.
An utter embarrassment of poverty.
Unacceptable.....both on and off the pitch.
You're lucky.....you only had a restricted view !
Phil,
Any more capitulations like the Chester game and I'll be petitioning for the Community Sports Hall to be extended....
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I think Figgy has it right, the so called family stand should be an away fans seating area, how often is the main stand full and as far as kids are concerned it is hardly an effing and jeffing area. Food and toilets might need adjusting but surely that is the easiest quick fix.
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I think Figgy has it right, the so called family stand should be an away fans seating area, how often is the main stand full and as far as kids are concerned it is hardly an effing and jeffing area. Food and toilets might need adjusting but surely that is the easiest quick fix.
i also agree would they enter at chequers turnstile though ?
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I think Figgy has it right, the so called family stand should be an away fans seating area, how often is the main stand full and as far as kids are concerned it is hardly an effing and jeffing area. Food and toilets might need adjusting but surely that is the easiest quick fix.
i also agree would they enter at chequers turnstile though ?
I agree in theory with the family stand being given over to away fans only. Every away fan comes through the chequers turnstiles, they pay a supplement to transfer to the seats.
In practice, my biggest concern is that the sponsors lounge, which is an excellent facility and a good revenue earner, becomes at best underused and at worst made redundant. Very few clubs at this level can offer a glass fronted lounge and dining area with good seats right in front of it. Shuttling sponsors between the lounge, the directors box (which i doubt has enough seats) and another bar or part of the CSH just isnt as good an experience.
I'm not saying this to pick holes, it is a very difficult issue to solve, but the impact on our commercial income and appeal to sponsors needs to be factored in.
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We all make mistakes at work and in our lives, so it is not fair to keep having a pop at those that run and help the club.
I do appreciate what you're saying, but it should work both ways. The way our fans have been treated over the segregation/Popular Side issue is very, very poor.
I fail to see why we pamper to away fans. The answer is simple AWAY FANS GO IN AWAY END. There should be no argument or compromise. I also think we should charge away fans what they charge us at their grounds. I know 2 wrongs do not make a right but we have been treated very shabbily by some of these clubs such as Barnet, Aldershot, Chester, Scouseport, FGR that some of our fans wont go to some of these to cheer on the Robins. We have enough issues to worry about at Alty than about Scousers getting wet.
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We all make mistakes at work and in our lives, so it is not fair to keep having a pop at those that run and help the club.
I do appreciate what you're saying, but it should work both ways. The way our fans have been treated over the segregation/Popular Side issue is very, very poor.
I fail to see why we pamper to away fans. The answer is simple AWAY FANS GO IN AWAY END. There should be no argument or compromise. I also think we should charge away fans what they charge us at their grounds. I know 2 wrongs do not make a right but we have been treated very shabbily by some of these clubs such as Barnet, Aldershot, Chester, Scouseport, FGR that some of our fans wont go to some of these to cheer on the Robins. We have enough issues to worry about at Alty than about Scousers getting wet.
We are not allowed to charge more to away fans. Even if we did, then you run the risk of away fans trying to get in the home sections for less. It would also cause more headaches with the seated areas.
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We all make mistakes at work and in our lives, so it is not fair to keep having a pop at those that run and help the club.
I do appreciate what you're saying, but it should work both ways. The way our fans have been treated over the segregation/Popular Side issue is very, very poor.
I fail to see why we pamper to away fans. The answer is simple AWAY FANS GO IN AWAY END. There should be no argument or compromise. I also think we should charge away fans what they charge us at their grounds. I know 2 wrongs do not make a right but we have been treated very shabbily by some of these clubs such as Barnet, Aldershot, Chester, Scouseport, FGR that some of our fans wont go to some of these to cheer on the Robins. We have enough issues to worry about at Alty than about Scousers getting wet.
We are not allowed to charge more to away fans. Even if we did, then you run the risk of away fans trying to get in the home sections for less. It would also cause more headaches with the seated areas.