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[taxi Phil]

Purely in terms of history, Everton have spent only four seasons outside the top level of English football since being one of the 12 founder members of the Football League in 1888.

For me, they are one of the biggest clubs in English football, albeit in slightly reduced circumstances nowadays.

[distancetraveller]

Purely in terms of history, Everton have spent only four seasons outside the top level of English football since being one of the 12 founder members of the Football League in 1888.

For me, they are one of the biggest clubs in English football, albeit in slightly reduced circumstances nowadays.

Hope your including Creepy Crawley in that list 

[taxi Phil]

Purely in terms of history, Everton have spent only four seasons outside the top level of English football since being one of the 12 founder members of the Football League in 1888.

For me, they are one of the biggest clubs in English football, albeit in slightly reduced circumstances nowadays.

Hope your including Creepy Crawley in that list 

They just creep into the top 500 behind Prestwich Heys Ray ! All the best to you and Jill for Xmas and New Year.

[Robin Reliant]

I know that I'm likely to be pilloried for supporting a friend/colleague but I honestly think that both were Red Cards

The first (Carlton Cole) may be a touch harsh but it did endanger the safety of an opponent and was made with (marginally) disproportionate force

The second one (Gibson) is a Red Card all day, week, month and year

Looks like the FA disagree..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20853419

[AltyTunnelSteward]

I know that I'm likely to be pilloried for supporting a friend/colleague but I honestly think that both were Red Cards

The first (Carlton Cole) may be a touch harsh but it did endanger the safety of an opponent and was made with (marginally) disproportionate force

The second one (Gibson) is a Red Card all day, week, month and year

Looks like the FA disagree..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20853419

Wrong!

It is an independent panel which adjudicates on these matters I think

[blackpoolalty]

I know that I'm likely to be pilloried for supporting a friend/colleague but I honestly think that both were Red Cards

The first (Carlton Cole) may be a touch harsh but it did endanger the safety of an opponent and was made with (marginally) disproportionate force

The second one (Gibson) is a Red Card all day, week, month and year

Looks like the FA disagree..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20853419

Wrong!

It is an independent panel which adjudicates on these matters I think

Eh? How can you say someone's point is wrong when your not sure yourself 

[taxi Phil]

"Taylor is believed to be the first official in the country to have had two red cards from the same game wiped out" (The Times this morning).

[Robin Reliant]

I know that I'm likely to be pilloried for supporting a friend/colleague but I honestly think that both were Red Cards

The first (Carlton Cole) may be a touch harsh but it did endanger the safety of an opponent and was made with (marginally) disproportionate force

The second one (Gibson) is a Red Card all day, week, month and year

Looks like the FA disagree..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20853419

Wrong!

It is an independent panel which adjudicates on these matters I think

"Suspensions for Carlton Cole and Darron Gibson have been withdrawn
The FA can confirm that red cards shown to West Ham United's Carlton Cole and Everton's Darron Gibson have been rescinded.

Both players were sent from the field of play in the Premier League fixture between the two clubs at Upton Park on Saturday 22 December.

Their three match suspensions have been withdrawn immediately. Written reasons will be provided at a later date.

Other hearings heard by The FA today: " 

It may or may not be an independent panel, but the judgement comes from the FA.

[Ballers]

Very much an Alty fan, used to go home and away game til refereeing commitments on Saturdays got in the way.

Don't see him so much now but he's still very much in the loop about how we're doing.

[Mallorca Alty]

Personally I would like to see referees explain why they gave the decisions in the game. I believe it would give some people a better understanding of the laws of the game especially the pundits. Though I think some of the LOAF and directives don't help the referees especially the offside law.

[MadFrankie]

It would also help if pundits and managers passed an exam at the start of the season to show that they understand the laws of the game e.g. that there's no 'last man' rule, and that players aren't 'entitled to go down' under certain types of challenge etc.

[AltyTunnelSteward]

Personally I would like to see referees explain why they gave the decisions in the game. I believe it would give some people a better understanding of the laws of the game especially the pundits. Though I think some of the LOAF and directives don't help the referees especially the offside law.

Nice idea Ian but you know as well as I do that nobody (particularly the media and the "offended against Club & its fans) is really interested.

When SKY started they had a Referee in the Studio ( either Joe Worrall or Neil Midgely I believe) who explained why certain decisions had been made. This totally destroyed any controversy and after about six games they paid the Ref off and didn't use him any more.

Now they put Alan Wiley and Dermot Gallagher on the media the day after when most folk aren't working and only normally show their comments when the Referee has erred