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Title: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 16, 2023, 12:25:53 PM
Going early.

Felt like we missed out on 3 points last night by starting out so defensive with three CB's and three CM's in the 11.

In the first half we looked all over the place at times and invited pressure from an average York side.

I think Managers can over think tactics. Even with the taller players we didn't defend well.

We have quality attacking players, so let teams think about us.

Back to our current best 11 and formation.

                                Ross

Banks       J.Jones        Baines      E.Jones

                      Osborne    Marriott

Amaluzor              CCC              Kossy

                             Linney

Hopefully get Donawa back soon.

One of the first to criticise Osborne but he was excellent last night. He was positive, with forward passing and wanting the ball.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 16, 2023, 12:32:25 PM
My starting 11 no doubt.

We know they will give us an aerial bombardment so we should be well prepared for it.

Alty 2-0 BW (Linney, Con-Clarke)
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 16, 2023, 12:37:42 PM
My starting 11 no doubt.

We know they will give us an aerial bombardment so we should be well prepared for it.

Alty 2-0 BW (Linney, Con-Clarke)

They will, but be positive and keep the ball, on the ground, at their end and get in front.

It seemed last night that we had so many tall players on the pitch that at times those players didn't know who should be winning the ball.

Like too many cooks in the kitchen.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 16, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
Going early.

Felt like we missed out on 3 points last night by starting out so defensive with three CB's and three CM's in the 11.

In the first half we looked all over the place at times and invited pressure from an average York side.

I think Managers can over think tactics. Even with the taller players we didn't defend well.

We have quality attacking players, so let teams think about us.

Back to our current best 11 and formation.

                                Ross

Banks       J.Jones        Baines      E.Jones

                      Osborne    Marriott

Amaluzor              CCC              Kossy

                             Linney

Hopefully get Donawa back soon.

One of the first to criticise Osborne but he was excellent last night. He was positive, with forward passing and wanting the ball.

This is very obviously the best starting XI for me at the moment.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on August 16, 2023, 08:16:28 PM
My starting 11 no doubt.

We know they will give us an aerial bombardment so we should be well prepared for it.

Alty 2-0 BW (Linney, Con-Clarke)

They have a long throw expert too so there’s an argument for leaving the temporary warm up goals and any pitch covers we have in the attacking thirds off the pitch to nullify his run up space
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 16, 2023, 09:16:52 PM
Our next two games will be difficult I would be happy to come away with a point from each of these games.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 16, 2023, 10:01:25 PM
My starting 11 no doubt.

We know they will give us an aerial bombardment so we should be well prepared for it.

Alty 2-0 BW (Linney, Con-Clarke)

They have a long throw expert too so there’s an argument for leaving the temporary warm up goals and any pitch covers we have in the attacking thirds off the pitch to nullify his run up space

Widen the pitch again
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: JD on August 16, 2023, 10:22:03 PM
I have a feeling Parkie might start Roscoe instead of Baines,
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on August 16, 2023, 11:44:25 PM
I have a feeling Parkie might start Roscoe instead of Baines,
This would be a madness. Baines is our best defender imo.

Roscoe may well be better but he's off the pace right now. 15/20 mins once we have the game settled is all I can give him in our best line up. Especially against Boreham wood.

We had a really effective cross ball field long ball going on yesterday at times. I doubt we see that Saturday.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 17, 2023, 10:40:55 AM
Wouldn't be dropping Baines for Roscoe.
They lost at home last night and have a day less to rest.
Just let's keep it on the floor and get at them.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 17, 2023, 11:43:39 AM
Wouldn't be dropping Baines for Roscoe.
They lost at home last night and have a day less to rest.
Just let's keep it on the floor and get at them.

Roscoe does need game time at some point but this is not the game to do it. We need to stick with our best eleven. If we do that we've got a reasonable chance of getting something out of the game.
Also, no subs until we're two up! 😉
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on August 17, 2023, 12:13:52 PM

We had a really effective cross ball field long ball going on yesterday at times. I doubt we see that Saturday.

I noticed this as well and I feel sure that it is something that they are working on as it was looking far too easy for them to get the range and distance correct and for the receiving Robin to bring the ball under control and move it on.  A good way to open up free space and time to move forward.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 17, 2023, 12:18:31 PM
Osbourne is mint a 40 yard diagg
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 17, 2023, 07:35:12 PM
One thing I thought about Lewis Baines last season is that he was a fabulous defender, but not much of a footballer. Which is fine, sometimes that's what you need - leave it to the other lads.

From what I've seen so far this season he's improved massively with the ball at his feet - much like Toby did. Much happier to receive under pressure, still very one-footed but it is what it is.

He'd be one of the first names on my teamsheet.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 17, 2023, 07:36:50 PM
Osbourne is mint a 40 yard diagg

Pardon?
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on August 17, 2023, 07:59:12 PM
Osbourne is mint a 40 yard diagg

Pardon?

I am glad you asked!
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 17, 2023, 09:12:09 PM
Very good at passing it 40yards diagonally.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 17, 2023, 09:34:32 PM
Was it in esperanto? 😉
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Mick on August 17, 2023, 10:58:53 PM
One thing I thought about Lewis Baines last season is that he was a fabulous defender, but not much of a footballer. Which is fine, sometimes that's what you need - leave it to the other lads.

From what I've seen so far this season he's improved massively with the ball at his feet - much like Toby did. Much happier to receive under pressure, still very one-footed but it is what it is.

He'd be one of the first names on my teamsheet.

Agree.
Improved quite a lot. Our best CB.
No idea why he was subbed on Tues and Roscoe stayed on......unless it was to give him that added bit of rest he will need for the 110 mins on Saturday
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on August 18, 2023, 01:06:38 AM
Completely agree about Baines, best defender at the club right now. A shame we lost Toby, they would have made an amazing partnership. Last year was a slow start by Alty and I think we had to juggle CB’s due to injury and swapping goalkeepers didn’t help either. Lots of errors by many, including slips trips and falls, giving away easy goals. Feel that Baines talks and walks a good game. Him and James Jones must continue as the first choice pairing and we should remain in our 4,2,3,1 shape and attack teams. I haven’t been this excited in years! COYR
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 18, 2023, 09:40:46 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on August 18, 2023, 09:44:15 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

First in line for rotation or injury replacement. Bin Roscoe or loan him out he’s terrible
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 18, 2023, 09:53:49 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

I think he's our cover at left back too isn't he?
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 18, 2023, 10:27:20 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

I think he's our cover at left back too isn't he?

Brockbanks? The Invisible Man?
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 18, 2023, 10:37:36 AM
Thought he was a right back?
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Mick on August 18, 2023, 10:39:22 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

First in line for rotation or injury replacement. Bin Roscoe or loan him out he’s terrible
I agree, not convinced so far, but Roscoe may yet come good....we have had plenty of others that have taken some time to get up to speed.
My thoughts at the time was that taking players from the lower Scottish leagues and N.I. is a gamble.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 18, 2023, 10:50:47 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

First in line for rotation or injury replacement. Bin Roscoe or loan him out he’s terrible
I agree, not convinced so far, but Roscoe may yet come good....we have had plenty of others that have taken some time to get up to speed.
My thoughts at the time was that taking players from the lower Scottish leagues and N.I. is a gamble.

Agreed, I always find it funny how these players come with 'European experience' that comprises getting mullered over two legs by an Icelandic outfit, and whilst they might play for one of the better Welsh / Irish clubs, their opposition is often nowhere near the standard - whereas in the National League you can lose to anyone - home or away.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 18, 2023, 01:05:27 PM
Well we can!
Let's hope this season is different 🤞
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 18, 2023, 04:50:39 PM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

I think he's our cover at left back too isn't he?

Brockbanks? The Invisible Man?
Liam has had ACL operation I think and in rehab. Not easy recovering from that type of injury
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: cornishrobin on August 18, 2023, 07:52:14 PM
Is the weather going to get in the way tomorrow? Lots of rain coming!
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 19, 2023, 12:21:49 AM
Is the weather going to get in the way tomorrow? Lots of rain coming!

Should have all blown through by breakfast. Meant to be a decent day after that
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 19, 2023, 10:20:05 AM
Lovely day down here in Sunny Saughall! 😉
Let's hope it doesn't get worse on the way up the M56.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 19, 2023, 10:31:48 AM
Weather set fine in Alty for the day. Bring an umbrella to shade yourself from the sun 🌞
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 19, 2023, 10:45:43 AM
Weather set fine in Alty for the day. Bring an umbrella to shade yourself from the sun 🌞

Has the main stand roof blown off then? 😎 😀
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on August 19, 2023, 10:48:09 AM
Dont where this leaves Cooper

First in line for rotation or injury replacement. Bin Roscoe or loan him out he’s terrible
Lol

I see collectively as fans we've really not learned about writing lads off after a game in the shirt.

Low IQ punditry.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 19, 2023, 11:24:50 AM
Wouldn't have put it as scathingly as that however I do agree that we, as fans, do need to be a little less quick to judge.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: JD on August 19, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
I have a feeling Parkie might start Roscoe instead of Baines,
This would be a madness. Baines is our best defender imo.

Roscoe may well be better but he's off the pace right now. 15/20 mins once we have the game settled is all I can give him in our best line up. Especially against Boreham wood.

We had a really effective cross ball field long ball going on yesterday at times. I doubt we see that Saturday.

Now, where were we...?

Just call me Nostrodamus!
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 19, 2023, 05:01:54 PM
Awful subs.
Still a wide player, for depth and CM short.
Play Amaluzor for 90.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on August 19, 2023, 05:57:30 PM
Isaac Marriott and Elliot Osborne did well again, defensively we looked pretty solid and Ethan Ross has helped out coming in as GK. This time last year we would have probably lost that.

Regan Linney and Justin A. were decent up front, Linney made and took his goal very well. But that was it up front, once those 2 went off we offered little attacking threat. Kossy and CCC well off their best today.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 19, 2023, 06:13:29 PM
Isaac Marriott and Elliot Osborne did well again, defensively we looked pretty solid and Ethan Ross has helped out coming in as GK. This time last year we would have probably lost that.

Regan Linney and Justin A. were decent up front, Linney made and took his goal very well. But that was it up front, once those 2 went off we offered little attacking threat. Kossy and CCC well off their best today.

Love Kossy but he should have been first to go.
Amaluzor was dangerous all game and should have stayed on.
Bizarre subs.
Linney is quality.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 19, 2023, 06:21:42 PM
Not sure Kossy is a wing back and ccc seemed to drift to the left at times rather than play  at number 10 .Personally prefer a back four.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 19, 2023, 06:30:45 PM
CCC was awful, first of a kerbstone and sh*t out of a challenge on the keeper that led to their goal.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 19, 2023, 06:32:50 PM
Just wrong subs. Linney and Amaluzor were mint and stretched the play.
Left us without pace and players to run the channels.
Love Parky but poor on subs. Always has been, over thinks things.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Mick on August 19, 2023, 07:12:45 PM
Thought our back line did well today and we really should have capitalised on the mistakes made by BW in the first half.
Second half we looked out of ideas and the draw was a fair result (they are no mugs). Angus should have won it for us at the death.

Was it me....or was the referee pretty random in his decisions over foul / no foul ?
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on August 19, 2023, 07:39:25 PM
I thought a draw was a fair outcome.

It seemed a bit like a game where we know we are playing Chelsea next weekend. Too many players seemed not to have their foot on the gas.

Having said that the crowd was light too. Lots of people still on holiday.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 19, 2023, 07:54:11 PM


We suffered the consequences of failing to capitalise on our first-half superiority. Conn-Clarke was guilty of squandering three excellent chances due to overplaying or taking unnecessary touches (our old chum, Mister Dinanga, would have been slaughtered for such profligacy!).

Splendid finish by Linney, but it all rather went downhill in the second half, especially after our two most effective attacking players were withdrawn.

Kosylo endured one of those afternoons when virtually nothing went right and I'm still waiting for Angus to offer me a glimmer of promise.

Boreham Wood deserved their point on a somewhat frustrating afternoon.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 19, 2023, 08:04:03 PM
Thought CCC was having an off day today,  would have hooked him instead of Linney. Borehamwood are a physical team who have the knack of getting away with niggly fouls. We seemed to lose our way in the second half, and let them back into it. Isaac was MoM, Osbourne is better than he was last season but still has  silly errors and gives away fouls in dangerous positions. James Jones is not good at right back., he got skinned for their equaliser similar to the Halifax game last season.

A point was a fair result in the end,

Referee was abysmal at best.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 19, 2023, 08:07:42 PM
Very fair and accurate summary imho. 👍
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 19, 2023, 08:47:00 PM
I thought Osborne was excellent in the first half, but, once we allowed Boreham Wood to bully us into playing so deep that I expected Jacques Cousteau to appear in our penalty area, he became less effective and eventually gave away a free kick in a dangerous position. Fortunately it was wasted.

At half time I fancied us to win. By the hour mark I feared we would lose.

The tendency to substitute Linney puzzles me. He didn't look to be injured, and his performance levels looked OK. Instead we got Angus who is basically underwhelming.

CCC had the worst game I can remember seeing from him - even the "assist" to the goal was miscued. Hopefully it was a one-off.

If you'd told me we'd be unbeaten after 4 games, I'd probably have questioned your sanity - but there are still things that need fixing.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 19, 2023, 08:56:21 PM
If we can fix them and remain unbeaten then we're in for a decent season! 😉
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on August 19, 2023, 09:54:20 PM
If we can fix them and remain unbeaten then we're in for a decent season! 😉
That's the positive way to look at it, and there's no reason why not to. At least, having declined during the second half and allowing Boreham Wood to get their deserved point, we have maintained that unbeaten record.

Not for the first time, I have to regret us not taking full advantage of our period of dominance.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on August 20, 2023, 08:24:07 AM
interesting that luke garrard in his interview thought both teams looked tired even at this stage of the season due to the extra 55 mins they've played. Maybe  training might need to start including an afternoon nap.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 20, 2023, 08:46:13 AM
interesting that luke garrard in his interview thought both teams looked tired even at this stage of the season due to the extra 55 mins they've played. Maybe  training might need to start including an afternoon nap.
We wilted second half, Gerrard is correct, leggy, tired whatever, dont think 23c helped. Shame we couldn't get the 2nd goal in first half we deserved. Missing Donawa option. Bench was poor. Disappointed with Dior so far, showed promise at Lancaster, hopefully will improve with match time. Pleased with a point but still think 2 dropped based on 1st half.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on August 20, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
I've been away so only seen the D&R game.

It's probably worth noting that some of our players e.g. Angus, Roscoe, Jones barely kicked a ball in anger pre-season so please give them time.

I've said since the Lancaster game that we are a LW short. Some bloke was on trial so Parky must also have thought this too. Hopefully this can be addressed soon.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 20, 2023, 11:39:27 AM
I've been away so only seen the D&R game.

It's probably worth noting that some of our players e.g. Angus, Roscoe, Jones barely kicked a ball in anger pre-season so please give them time.

I've said since the Lancaster game that we are a LW short. Some bloke was on trial so Parky must also have thought this too. Hopefully this can be addressed soon.

I suspect that we'd dip into the loan market again once clubs have taken a good look at their squads a few more games in.
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on August 20, 2023, 12:37:25 PM
We really rocked first half and after Reggie scored I really thought that we might massacre them. It would have been smashing if we could have been out of sight by half time as I truly believe we deserved to be. They employed physical tactics from the beginning and these increased as the referee chose to allow them, time over time again to trip, push and kick our players openly and with impunity.  They were clearly a physically fit group of players and they sought to launch the ball in a variety of different forms towards the Alty penalty area.  As Parky pointed out in his after-match chat with Brian Flynn, we absorbed their high ball tactics and their physical manhandling only to come unstuck by a pulled back cross of the kind usually taken care of by us as a matter of routine.

I was disappointed to see our best two performing players of the day replaced and after they were gone Boreham looked as though they might steal it.  On reflection, I see the importance of protecting our assets to ensure that they will be fit and available to play against the Spirites next Saturday.

I thought #19, Sousa, was good for them.

Elliot continues to impress me but needs to be less reckless with some of his tackling.

ALTYFC are simply the best... and better than all the rest!     
Title: Re: Boreham Wood Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 20, 2023, 07:36:28 PM
Just seen the highlights, couldn't go yesterday.

James Jones does seem to get skinned a bit too easily on occasion - there's absolutely no way the full back should be allowed to get to the byline from where he started.