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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on July 29, 2013, 02:17:01 PM
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http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jul/28/gilford-park-celtic-nation-kevin-lynch
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Not this old chest nut again.
Celtic will NEVER Join the English league set up.
1. Not good enough. (remember Brian's assessment of scottish football when Reeves turned down Inverness)? That was spot on.
2. Fans wont let in happen (bad enough having to travel up to dingwall on a bleak wednesday night without having to travel to J.D. stadium on a Tuesday)
3. financially not viable.
Scottish football had to take a HUGE cut in Television revenue this year, due to the Rangers situation. If celtic join the English set up, they would have to come in at the lower level,
so No TV revenue due to lack of interesting games would kill the game stone dead.
I was at celtic vs cliftonville last week, believe me, After watching Altrincham for a year;It was Just awful.
Celtic or any other Scottish club would not survive in the English league set up.
Looking forward to getting back to watching proper football.
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Celtic have no connection to this club what so ever.
It must have been a slow news day.
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Danny Hall signed for them.
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"There are 92 clubs in England, but none of them caters specifically for the Scottish and Irish communities in their midst. I want to establish a club that has a Celtic identity and would like to encourage people of Scottish and Irish heritage to come and watch us play."
as soon as you start creating football clubs for the benefit of specific communities (regardless of which ones they are) you're going down a pretty unhealthy route in my view. What's wrong with trying to build a club where people from all backgrounds can support it, not just one or two?
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Not this old chest nut again.
Celtic will NEVER Join the English league set up.
1. Not good enough. (remember Brian's assessment of scottish football when Reeves turned down Inverness)? That was spot on.
2. Fans wont let in happen (bad enough having to travel up to dingwall on a bleak wednesday night without having to travel to J.D. stadium on a Tuesday)
3. financially not viable.
Scottish football had to take a HUGE cut in Television revenue this year, due to the Rangers situation. If celtic join the English set up, they would have to come in at the lower level,
so No TV revenue due to lack of interesting games would kill the game stone dead.
I was at celtic vs cliftonville last week, believe me, After watching Altrincham for a year;It was Just awful.
Celtic or any other Scottish club would not survive in the English league set up.
Looking forward to getting back to watching proper football.
P.S.
Celtic have no connection to this club what so ever.
It must have been a slow news day.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Celtic and have no desire to see them playing in England. But your first point is rather silly. They beat Barcelona a matter of months ago as well as doing the double over Spartak Moscow. Now that they've adjusted their sights and put in place a credible transfer policy, they're a pretty decent side.
If Celtic, Rangers or anyone else want to play in England, then they should do it in a completely transparent way. Leave their current national association and start at the very bottom of the English pyramid. All this talk of Trojan clubs or clubs joining at Premier League or Championship level is utter bollocks.
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But your first point is rather silly. They beat Barcelona a matter of months ago as well as doing the double over Spartak Moscow. Now that they've adjusted their sights and put in place a credible transfer policy, they're a pretty decent side.
It was a tremendous result, but since then Celtic have not improved. They do not have the dept of squad needed to maintain a league run in English football.
As to celtic nation as a team, i hope they do well, and attract a decent support.
They are in the same league as Shildon.
Good luck to them.
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It was a tremendous result, but since then Celtic have not improved. They do not have the dept of squad needed to maintain a league run in English football.
As to celtic nation as a team, i hope they do well, and attract a decent support.
They are in the same league as Shildon.
Good luck to them.
I think Celtic would probably finish about 14th in the Premier League. But that's neither here nor there. That club with that fanbase and the additional TV/sponsorship revenues would be up there fighting for the CL places.
Anyway, not gonna happen. So never worry.
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That's very optimistic considering last season celtic lost away to Motherwell in a game they should have won lost at ross county and to Inverness at home.
and were very inconsistent throughout.
Celtic have now sold Hooper to Norwich and the game against cliiftonville last week at celtic park was awful.
cliftonville should have got a draw.
But i do agree that if any Scottish club were to join the English league set up, they should start at the bottom.
But i can't see it happening.
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If Wales can have teams in the English league, why cant Scotland?
At present Celtic would be a championship side but the extra revenue generated would give them the facility to develop.
Celtic have a lot to thank Fergus McCann for when he laid down the foundations, and was ridiculed at the time for not throwing money at players like Rangers did.
There should be a British Premier League and also one Great Britain national side (the 3 British countries and the Channel Islands/IOM) which must start as a bottom seed to qualify for World Cups and the Euro's.
I am afraid that Scottish Football died as a result of the mismanagement of Rangers.
However this topic has nothing to do with Alty and hopefully never will have.
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Bring Celtic & the Gers in, welsh clubs are in without causing problems to their national side, and Berwick ! it goes both ways. Fan base is massive and the qualty would improve to compete.
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It almost sounds to me like they are hinting not so much Celtic joining the English league, but Celtic having a team in England. It is perfectly feasible to have an owner with teams in different countries and I think Watford's situation is a good example as they have umpteen loanees from affiliated club(s) in Spain/Italy.
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Celtic are an Irish team playing in Scotland, that spend their time hating the union and England. You can't have your cake and eat it, not from here, not wanted.
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The reason why this notion of the "Celtic brethren" supporting their own club will fail is essentially there is no such thing except in the imaginations of silly old men from America. More pertinently those of us who would presumably qualify as one of it's number aren't likely to fall for such a lot of patronising guff from a plainly deluded numpty. So there.
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The reason why this notion of the "Celtic brethren" supporting their own club will fail is essentially there is no such thing except in the imaginations of silly old men from America. More pertinently those of us who would presumably qualify as one of it's number aren't likely to fall for such a lot of patronising guff from a plainly deluded numpty. So there.
I am hardly going to fall for this one considering the missery of supporting Alty and kidding myself for nearly 50 years that we will be a FL club ;)
I also think you are the right person to advise Cruikshank and other ignorant posters that Glasgow Celtic is not an exclusively Irish Catholic club. Celtic does draw support from Ireland, more so because of the exclusion imposed by Rangers.
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If Wales can have teams in the English league, why cant Scotland?
At present Celtic would be a championship side but the extra revenue generated would give them the facility to develop.
Celtic have a lot to thank Fergus McCann for when he laid down the foundations, and was ridiculed at the time for not throwing money at players like Rangers did.
There should be a British Premier League and also one Great Britain national side (the 3 British countries and the Channel Islands/IOM) which must start as a bottom seed to qualify for World Cups and the Euro's.
I am afraid that Scottish Football died as a result of the mismanagement of Rangers.
However this topic has nothing to do with Alty and hopefully never will have.
The Wales situation is a bit different though. Welsh teams were always allowed in the English pyramid because there was no professional Welsh league.
As for three British countries - I think you'll find Northern Ireland remains part of the UK. Fair play, we're awful. But our birth right hasn't been completely sold down the river just yet.
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The reason why this notion of the "Celtic brethren" supporting their own club will fail is essentially there is no such thing except in the imaginations of silly old men from America. More pertinently those of us who would presumably qualify as one of it's number aren't likely to fall for such a lot of patronising guff from a plainly deluded numpty. So there.
I am hardly going to fall for this one considering the missery of supporting Alty and kidding myself for nearly 50 years that we will be a FL club ;)
I also think you are the right person to advise Cruikshank and other ignorant posters that Glasgow Celtic is not an exclusively Irish Catholic club. Celtic does draw support from Ireland, more so because of the exclusion imposed by Rangers.
I'm a catholic,and I'm not ignorant,although i never realised the Scottish national flag was green white and gold.
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I reckon they need the bloke from oxford to maximise their branding then they really would have a recipe for disaster.....
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anyway this idea of celtic getting into the top flight via a Trojan club has already been tried and failed by....... Stalybridge! ;D
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anyway this idea of celtic getting into the top flight via a Trojan club has already been tried and failed by....... Stalybridge! ;D
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I am hardly going to fall for this one considering the missery of supporting Alty and kidding myself for nearly 50 years that we will be a FL club ;)
I also think you are the right person to advise Cruikshank and other ignorant posters that Glasgow Celtic is not an exclusively Irish Catholic club. Celtic does draw support from Ireland, more so because of the exclusion imposed by Rangers.
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I'm a catholic,and I'm not ignorant,although i never realised the Scottish national flag was green white and gold. [/quote]
Neither is the Irish flag as it's colours are Green, White and Orange (not gold). The make up being Green representing the indigineous Celts, Orange for the settlers mainly in the north and white in the middle being the symbol of peace between the two. Also not all Celtic fans are Catholic, neither do all Catholics support Celtic. Again I repeat that this post has nothing to do with Alty.
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celtic and Rangers for that matter will never join and English league as doing so will fall straight into the hands of Fifa and there daft plan they have had for years of having One Great British team.I was surprised we got away with it at the Olypmics
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There may be scope for an English team playing 'home' matches in Glasgow. Remember the talk a few years ago of prem matches being played overseas. There are a number of clubs, including Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U that would quite easily fill Hampden Park for a league game. I don't want any of that to happen, but it's more likely than Celtic or lower league Rangers joining an English league.
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I'd have celtic in the premier league over sh*te like Wigan and Hull.
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I'd have celtic in the premier league over sh*te like Wigan and Hull.
How dare you question media darling plucky brave Wigan! :o
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I'd have celtic in the premier league over sh*te like Wigan and Hull.
Wigan despite going down played good football to watch Celtic play kick and run if that's what you want more teams to play like that's fair enough
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I'd have celtic in the premier league over sh*te like Wigan and Hull.
Leave my home town club alone you bully !
Come on you Tigers !!!