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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: I thought the ref cost us...
« on: April 02, 2007, 09:05:16 AM »
Couldn't agree more with your point about the number of free kicks that weren't given

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: I thought the ref cost us...
« on: April 02, 2007, 12:01:52 AM »
I know that this will probably get me seriously shot but I have to correct a couple of things here.

Just like my refereeing career, for once over 90 minutes I was in just the right position to see the (non) offside. Admittedly Lee Elam was indeed in an offside position but sadly the ball to him was played by an Alty defender (sorry don't know whom) this sadly put Elam onside.

As Jimmy says, there was a push so there was a penalty, yes it was a soft pen but a pen it was. I think that we were a touch unfortunate that the only players in the Penalty area were Munroe and the guy he pushed. The Ref therefore had a totally unobstructed view. Had there been more players in the Box, or had the Ref's position been different we might have got away with it. In law it would have been no less of a penalty, but Penalties not given are by definition NOT penalties.

The fact that nobody appealed is, I'm afraid a total irrelevance as is the fact that the Exeter fans (from probably 100 yards away) didn't think it was a penalty either.

I'd remind people of the penalty we got at Oxford which I seem to recall wasn't appealed for at the time either

2538
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: One less relagation place
« on: March 30, 2007, 02:19:55 PM »
Another reinforcement of the need for a strong and independent Supporters Trust I think

2539
Altrincham FC First Team / Football? Violence
« on: March 30, 2007, 02:02:01 PM »
So all violence and disorder at Sporting events is Football Violence then eh?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6510735.stm

And England has the worst problems!

 :o :o

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Thanks teasy,

Have to admit to being just a little relieved to see that this morning ;D

2541
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Futures Bright, The Futures Robins
« on: March 29, 2007, 02:59:33 PM »
I also recall hearing that a local Councillor has promised the residents that having got rid of that night club he'd be sure to get rid of the football club next.......admittedly this was a few years ago but perlease ??? ???

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Futures Bright, The Futures Robins
« on: March 29, 2007, 01:46:48 PM »
I have, before now received a request to turn the Floodlights off as they are keeping the children awake!! ::) ::) ::)

2543
It seems, and quite rightly in my view that the sympathy for Mr Evans and Boston Utd is becoming quite sparse.

You do have to feel for the real fans though, those whose footballing enjoyment and future is jeopardised by people with personal agendas and by events over which they have had no control.

2544
I suspect that the difference is that the Stafford player, having lost his boot, put it back on at the first opportunity he had whereas Chris reportedly didn't.

Therefore the Stafford Player had committed an offence briefly and inadvertantly whereas Chris, through enthusiasm to help the team no doubt, had deliberately contravened the Law

2545
Sorry to repeat my post from another thread but I thought this might help?


There is a law which relates to players equipment. This states that a player must be wearing Boots, Shirt, Shorts, Socks and Shinguards and that these items must be in good condition and not be a cause real or potential of injury to the player or an opponent.

There is also a law which states it to be an offence to indulge in conduct likely to endanger oneself or an opponent.

It seems that Chris lost his boot initially up by the Corner Flag in front of the Offices and was at that time instructed to put it back on. However he didn't do this immediately, instead continuing to play. Unfortunately the next time he was involved in play was in front of both the Referee and the Dug-outs hence the free kick and Chris having to leave the field of play to replace his boot. Having left the field of play he then has to wait until the referee allows him back on before he can rejoin play.

I discussed this last night with a Refereeing colleague who also happens to be an instructor and, like me, an examiner and it seems to us both that there was a transgression of both the areas of Law referred to at the top of my reply.

In law therefore the Referee was correct to do this but incorrect in not cautioning Chris.

Hope this helps

Phil
 

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There is a law which relates to players equipment. This states that a player must be wearing Boots, Shirt, Shorts, Socks and Shinguards and that these items must be in good condition and not be a cause real or potential of injury to the player or an opponent.

There is also a law which states it to be an offence to indulge in conduct likely to endanger oneself or an opponent.

It seems that Chris lost his boot initially up by the Corner Flag in front of the Offices and was at that time instructed to put it back on. However he didn't do this immediately, instead continuing to play. Unfortunately the next time he was involved in play was in front of both the Referee and the Dug-outs hence the free kick and Chris having to leave the field of play to replace his boot. Having left the field of play he then has to wait until the referee allows him back on before he can rejoin play.

I discussed this last night with a Refereeing colleague who also happens to be an instructor and, like me, an examiner and it seems to us both that there was a transgression of both the areas of Law referred to at the top of my reply.

In law therefore the Referee was correct to do this but incorrect in not cautioning Chris.

Hope this helps

Phil

2547
Non Altrincham FC Talk / Re: Another Southern Club's unfair treatment
« on: March 27, 2007, 08:27:41 AM »
This Brighton thing has gone on far too long now.

Yet another example of Politicians interfering in the game when they ought to leave well alone.

I'm wholly in support of Brighton & Hove Albion on this

2548
According to the BBC website (see my earlier post) both Accrington and Hereford are Non League sides already - bit of a pisser for Hereford IMO :o

2550
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: future pub quiz question
« on: March 26, 2007, 09:58:12 AM »
So, who was the first person to raise the electronic number board in an official fixture at the New Wembley then?

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