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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Board
« on: October 31, 2016, 10:50:54 PM »
Understood Paul Cain's Chip Pan, it was a pretty awful night for me I can tell you.  My uncle came over from Liverpool and walked out before the votes and went home, he was disgusted and resigned his membership of the trust, having been an Alty fan for about 70 years at the time.  My friend who also came to give me a bit of support abstained from voting and I was totally exhausted by the end and had to go to the King George for a glass of wine afterwards!  I resigned immediately, of course, as I was obviously not wanted.  I have been an Alty fan, however for 49 years and a season ticket holder, including during my 20 years living in Oxfordshire for over 25 years and a Vice President for about 20 years, so it hasn't put me off being a fan.

It was naughty, you are right, emotions were high, we'd just been, effectively relegated by the FA sand it seemed to the trust members that the organisation they belonged to wasn't giving money to the Club but the aims of a supporters trust were not to just give money to the club without any targeted purpose.  Jenny desperately needed a dishwasher in the bar at the time and we'd done research and asked her what would help her and she was frustrated by the half time rush and lack of clean glasses.  Also, Ian had said that a T shirt printing machine for replica kits in the shop would be a great help to him and we'd found a supplier of second hand machines at a reasonable price.  The money raised and saved from these two projects would have gone straight to the club, it was trust expenditure for club revenue but no-one wanted to listen to that on the night and long term projects were not wanted by the club at the time just a short term cash donation.  So the whole purpose of a supporters trust, what they are and what they do was rejected by Altrincham fans and as an employee of Supporters Direct, it was always quite an embarrassment for me at work but it was a members organisation and if the members did not want it, then it shouldn't exist.  Now it doesn't.

Sausages, that is a question you should put to the club directors of that time.  The shares that STAR owned went back to the football club.  Whether they were the actual STAR shares were given to him isn't definite as the Club may have had some unallocated shares or another shareholder may have transferred some of their shares owned prior to the STAR transfer to the cricketer.  But there was a transfer of some shares to that person sometime shortly after that SGM.  I resigned from the trust board, so the trust's shares were transferred to the club by whoever was the Secretary of the trust with the assistance, presumably of the secretary of the club.

I saw recently that there was a new share offer and that some were unallocated, so there may still be some available for people to buy?


I recollect this as being a truly horrendous evening.

Didn't Geoff Goodwin leave the meeting at one point in order to be interviewed live on radio in relation to the James Robinson/18-points deduction fiasco?

In my view, certain board members capitalised on emotions running high in order to achieve their desired aim to eviscerate STAR.  




I remember being out the of Country when the FA verdict was announced, hence why i don't remember this meeting. This explains the contempt the Board have for the Club's supporters and why it is clearly bizarre that Board members are involved with the current Supporters Club. The 2 most prominent members were also involved back then. I have no idea where the Club goes from here.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: grahame and andrew
« on: October 30, 2016, 05:26:32 PM »
Can someone please confirm the date of the AGM? My papers never arrived.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Worcester Match Thread
« on: October 29, 2016, 06:05:12 PM »
Which board members were clowning around?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Board
« on: October 27, 2016, 11:42:34 PM »
Much good sense written by Bath Alty.
One thing which might be worth a bit of research - I have a feeling that if those with access to the relevant information did a 'postcode survey' of (a) season ticket holders & (b) TASC members (I don't think there's a way of broadening the sample out to cover other regular supporters) it might be that a high proportion of one or both categories do not have WA14 or WA15 addresses. It might even be a majority. If that IS the case, it would imply that a sizeable proportion of those attending matches probably don't 'connect' with the community aspect which the club is so apparently anxious to promote because they are only likely to visit the ground on match days. Those in high places might need to recognise that for those people (among whom I count myself - with an OL2 postcode I'm probably rather atypical, though) the club is above all else its senior football team and therefore they will expect the primary concern of the club to be the well-being of that team. All else they will see, quite reasonably, as secondary.  
The Club should absolutely be involved in the Community, you must have heard of the very successful Football in the Community programme

I'm in WA15 but totally get what Mike is saying here. I'm not against the CSH in any way, but the primary responsibility for community provision should rest with the local council, not the football club.

The Club should absolutely be involved in the Community, you must have heard of the very successful Football in the Community programme that Football Leagues clubs ran in conjunction with the PFA over many years, however there is no reason why a football team cannot also be successful.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Board
« on: October 26, 2016, 11:50:49 PM »
Thanks both. What would have happened to the shares in that case? With the settled nature of the Board and its relationship with the supporters at the time, i guess it became irrelevant, strange how things change in a few years?

An effective and influential mouthpiece challenging the Board and even taking a seat on it with a supporters representative is what is needed now. Something i think the Board are well aware of, there is no organised challenge on decisions they make, therefore they can do what they want.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Board
« on: October 26, 2016, 10:12:07 PM »
For most football supporters, what happens on the pitch is the be all and end all, because we are a non league club with no cash cow then we do tend to get more involved in the politics than at better resourced clubs. The club is debt free and has been I believe since Geoff Goodwin left in 2009 or 2010, so what i find mos difficulty with is how the board or more likely the Chairman has continued to p*** fans off, made grave errors of judgement, slagged off supporters, appointed 2 poor managers, publicly backed those managers despite being in the minority, not apologised for mistakes caused and shown contempt to supporters in 2 public meetings.

It shouldn't be that difficult, for all the good work on the finance and community side the board should be basking in glory for the work they have done, but instead longstanding supporters are boycotting the games, people are deterred from volunteering, large swathes of supporters are angry and  and the club, on the pitch at least is sinking without a trace. I can't see how things can change, with the current board in situ, unless they acknowledge that a change of approach is needed. The Chairman is standing at the AGM to be elected for another 3 years, I am looking forward to hearing his plans for the future and why he should get my vote.

Incidentally as a curious thought, am i right in thinking that the Supporters Trust is still a legal entity?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Board
« on: October 26, 2016, 04:46:42 PM »
How can you blame Gerry Berman for our current problems? Yes he left us in a mess financially but he never forgot that first and foremost we are a football club. We are also a million miles away from finishing mid table. Take off your rose tinted spectacles - we are in a mess and to blame a man who was last involved 14 years ago is laughable

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: The Board
« on: October 26, 2016, 02:27:20 PM »
Also some of the community projects are funded by the Conference Trust and they will also end with relegation. Something which the Board must be concerned about.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Disability Football
« on: September 28, 2016, 08:02:08 PM »
Indeed and it's something I've raised with the community team. What happened to the Ground committee, maybe it's a project they could take up?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Disability Football
« on: September 27, 2016, 10:16:54 PM »
Fantastic news, great to see it up and running. Would love to help out where I can.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Meet the boards. Meet the managers,
« on: September 24, 2016, 09:28:51 PM »
Jim Harvey spoke very well, he's aware of our current problems and has ambitions for the club going forward. I wish him well but have doubts about how much the board can match his ambitions and whether or not a bigger club will come in for him when we start doing well. As for the board q and a - no comment

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Injury list
« on: September 15, 2016, 11:42:39 PM »
Twitter and Facebook don't cost money, the website is poor for 2016 there are no excuses other than a backward outlook.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Money !
« on: September 14, 2016, 06:47:34 PM »
Exactly, it was Pete that issued the rallying call. Incidentally, what are we giving the Chairman credit for?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: When
« on: September 10, 2016, 05:19:44 PM »
I think the Board need to release money for Harvey to do his job. If that means appealing for support from outside then they should do it. Not doing anything isn't good enough.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Rowley Programme notes
« on: September 04, 2016, 08:56:00 PM »
There is an article next to that one hy the same journo suggesting Curtis Woodhouse would be perfect for the job because he wouldn't be bullied by internet trolls as Young was. The chairman has done a job on his own club, not sure what he was trying to achieve but the PR disasters are stacking up.

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