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Title: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: robininstockport on July 20, 2020, 09:50:56 AM
Not heard anything official about the absence of Densmore, Jones and Williams.

Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Leon on July 20, 2020, 09:53:34 AM
It was stated in the match programme that Jones was offered an improved contract but turned it down and has left the club.

Densmore was absent because his wife was about to give birth.

Don't know about Williams - injured, presumably?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 20, 2020, 10:10:17 AM
Williams has still been involved in and around the squad, judging by the photographs.

So what's the gossip on James Jones? Did the FGR rumour have legs after all?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Sarf London Alty on July 20, 2020, 10:25:15 AM
I can’t remember whether it was in an interview or the programme but firm interest from clubs from higher leagues & you’d assume therefore a full time professional deal on the cards for Jones, so understandable given his age that he wants to take that opportunity, no confirmation though of where other than that FGR rumour.

Dens & Williams you’d hope might be in the mix for York, nothing suspicious there just family commitments & presumably some kind of knock. If you’ve got the programme then Rob Esteva’s column is well worth a read, the key phrase being ‘ A good percentage of the squad are now under contract for next season’.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: HashtagAlty on July 20, 2020, 10:26:10 AM
Williams has still been involved in and around the squad, judging by the photographs.

So what's the gossip on James Jones? Did the FGR rumour have legs after all?

Rumours yesterday that he hasn't signed for anyone, yet. But as above had turned down our deal.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Alty Dave on July 20, 2020, 10:30:28 AM
During the match commentary Brian advised as most mentioned about an improved package being turned down and was in negotiation with another club, so left out.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: robininstockport on July 20, 2020, 10:35:09 AM
No fee for Jones then
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Alty Dave on July 20, 2020, 10:36:48 AM
No fee for Jones then

If he's still under contract, then maybe, or due to his age we get a fee?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 20, 2020, 10:39:01 AM
Though James Jones would be a loss for the club, he did this before when he went to Salford City when he originally signed for us, and then came back again. Possibly the same may happen again but we shall see. Would not bank on it this time, but there again the grass is always greener on the other side. I think the club have been more than fair with him. I hope we can offer any newer players or replacements, football in the National League. I am also glad that nearly all of last seasons squad have signed now for next season. They should adapt fairly easily to playing a league higher, should be be successful in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: andrewflynn on July 20, 2020, 11:01:50 AM
Though James Jones would be a loss for the club, he did this before when he went to Salford City when he originally signed for us, and then came back again. Possibly the same may happen again but we shall see. Would not bank on it this time, but there again the grass is always greener on the other side. I think the club have been more than fair with him. I hope we can offer any newer players or replacements, football in the National League. I am also glad that nearly all of last seasons squad have signed now for next season. They should adapt fairly easily to playing a league higher, should be be successful in the playoffs.

That never happened? Different James Jones I think?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 20, 2020, 11:06:45 AM
Though James Jones would be a loss for the club, he did this before when he went to Salford City when he originally signed for us, and then came back again. Possibly the same may happen again but we shall see. Would not bank on it this time, but there again the grass is always greener on the other side. I think the club have been more than fair with him. I hope we can offer any newer players or replacements, football in the National League. I am also glad that nearly all of last seasons squad have signed now for next season. They should adapt fairly easily to playing a league higher, should be be successful in the playoffs.

That never happened? Different James Jones I think?

That's the other James Jones who plays for Chester I believe. Playing for the ex Salford management duo.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on July 20, 2020, 11:14:31 AM
Though James Jones would be a loss for the club, he did this before when he went to Salford City when he originally signed for us, and then came back again. Possibly the same may happen again but we shall see. Would not bank on it this time, but there again the grass is always greener on the other side. I think the club have been more than fair with him. I hope we can offer any newer players or replacements, football in the National League. I am also glad that nearly all of last seasons squad have signed now for next season. They should adapt fairly easily to playing a league higher, should be be successful in the playoffs.

That never happened? Different James Jones I think?

No, it kind of happened, but it's been misrembered above. He spent most of pre season on trial with us then went to Salford for a trial then returned. That's why he wasn't in the squad for the first couple of games in our Evo Stik season.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Leon on July 20, 2020, 11:17:07 AM
Indeed. From JL's website, early August 2017.

JAMES JONES GOES ON TRIAL WITH AMMIES
Altrincham FC Press and Media Officer John Edwards writes that "Altrincham defender James Jones (left) is heading for Salford City after being handed the chance to impress the Vanarama National League North side's joint managers Anthony Johnson and Bernard Morley during a trial period that will start next week.
The versatile centre-back made a favourable impression in Alty colours after joining at the beginning of the pre-season programme but was mindful he faced an uphill struggle for a first-team place, given the quality of defenders at manager Phil Parkinson's disposal.

His prospects of figuring in Alty's matchday squad for this season's Evo-Stik League Premier Division promotion push appeared to recede still further, following clear signs of a welcome return to full fitness by Tom Hannigan, who grew in confidence during a 45-minute outing at Bradford Park Avenue on Saturday and shone as a second-half substitute in Tuesday night's 4-0 win at Winsford.

The realisation Hannigan was vying with Ben Harrison and Chris Lynch for a place in central defence left Jones weighing up his options, and he needed little persuading to accept an invitation to try to prove his worth at Moor Lane. Alty boss Parkinson explained, 'James has done really well, but clearly with the form and fitness Tom has shown in the last two games, the future in central defence for us lies with him, Ben and Chris. That is where we are going to be forging defensive partnerships, between those three.'"
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 20, 2020, 11:22:57 AM
Yeah I do remember that happening - definitely wouldn't begrudge the fella a chance at full-time football, if that's what's being presented to him.

I do, however, think we'd need to bring in some more experience in that area for next season, which I'm sure the management will be working on as much as they can currently.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Hemel Alty on July 20, 2020, 11:41:07 AM
It does leave us worryingly short should Mullarkey or Hannigan pick up an injury or red.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 20, 2020, 03:26:41 PM
Agree with Hemel Alty's last post
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 20, 2020, 05:41:45 PM
That said though, Phil and Neil will cover that before the start of next season. Jake can also fill that role on a temporary basis whilst we negotiate the playoffs. In an emergency could we not get James back if need be, just for the playoffs? Depends on how far he is with his negotiations I suppose.
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: robininstockport on July 20, 2020, 07:05:46 PM
Did we offer him and Ceesay a short term deal does anyone know?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 20, 2020, 07:34:17 PM
Did we offer him and Ceesay a short term deal does anyone know?

would have to be part of the squad in March
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: robininstockport on July 20, 2020, 08:32:54 PM
Did we offer him and Ceesay a short term deal does anyone know?

would have to be part of the squad in March

They were weren't they?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 20, 2020, 08:54:51 PM
I assume Drench was still injured?
Title: Re: The Elephant In The Room (×3)
Post by: HashtagAlty on July 21, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
Did we offer him and Ceesay a short term deal does anyone know?

would have to be part of the squad in March

How are we allowed Wynne in that case?

Perhaps we were unsure TT would be available for selection; and therefore had an emergency signing. I had thought there may be an issue with Dens and Williams car sharing, but TT played and Dens' good news was annouced.

TT had a very good game Saturday (went under the radar).