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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: One Foot in the Grave on June 18, 2023, 06:15:44 PM
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I'm generally enthused. Obviously a massive welcome back to Chris Conn-Clarke. Joey Jones is another massive piece of business. Dior Angus will get us goals as long as he's 100% fit.
We do seem a little top-heavy in central defence. It does make me wonder if PP has plans to try a back five. The new right back says he prefers to defend - are we thinking of shifting Lewis Baines to left back, and Eddy Jones into a more advanced role ?
I await Lancaster with a great deal of interest - I shall try not to do a pub crawl till afterwards. To anyone with a love of classic pub interiors, I cannot recommend Hogarth's Gin Palace highly enough!
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Personally i prefer a flat back four with wingers as plan a dont think baines at lb has worked before when he was tried there ?
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Personally i prefer a flat back four with wingers as plan a dont think baines at lb has worked before when he was tried there ?
I think the suggestion was Baines on the left of a back three, with Eddy Jones at wing back.
I must admit I'd prefer to go back to the 4231 we know and love, but perhaps we'll continue to alternate between two separate setups again.
It seems to me that Dior Angus can play on the left of a 4231 or partner Regan up front if we went three at the back and two up front.
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I still believe we're in need of a goal scoring winger. We're still a bit low on numbers up front but imho all the signings are positive ones - and, importantly, not loans.
Perhaps we're leaving room for a couple of successful trialists in the early friendlies?
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I still believe we're in need of a goal scoring winger. We're still a bit low on numbers up front but imho all the signings are positive ones - and, importantly, not loans.
Perhaps we're leaving room for a couple of successful trialists in the early friendlies?
I thought seven had signed with two left to be announced ?
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Nothing not to like about the newcomers and a massive upgrade on previous close season business . Huge statement of intent imo .
Saughall and i both want to see a winger ( or two ) next.
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I still believe we're in need of a goal scoring winger. We're still a bit low on numbers up front but imho all the signings are positive ones - and, importantly, not loans.
Perhaps we're leaving room for a couple of successful trialists in the early friendlies?
I thought seven had signed with two left to be announced ?
Wasn't aware of that Timperley. If you're correct, and I hope you are, we could be going into the phase of friendlies fine tuning the team ready to hit the ground running in August rather than looking for prospects for starting berths.
The first time for, I think, decades this has happened and a real leap forward in the progress of the club.
Very pleased, personally, and will be even more pleased if we sign a marquee winger signing!
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Buzzing with CCC, don't really know the other players.
We 100% need wingers.
I think we are more of a force when we play 4231. If the wingers are up to the standard, then we don't need 3 CB's in my opinion.
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Buzzing with CCC, don't really know the other players.
We 100% need wingers.
I think we are more of a force when we play 4231. If the wingers are up to the standard, then we don't need 3 CB's in my opinion.
Nail on head
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Is Sam Roscoe related to Ollie Byrne or are they just mates??
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Think someone said, on another thread, that they were cousins.
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As long as they all stay with us until the end of the season Ill be very happy.
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As long as they all stay with us until the end of the season Ill be very happy.
This time they're all actual signings.
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and hopefully a fully fit Kossie back
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Is Sam Roscoe related to Ollie Byrne or are they just mates??
There Cousins, so related.
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Really pleased as others with CCC, other signings look really promising, more experience at this level.
Just awaiting those elusive wingers now.
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Are further signings being announced this week or is that it for now?
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Someone said that there were a couple more this week but I've not seen that confirmed anywhere else. We're still short at least one winger I think.
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Are further signings being announced this week or is that it for now?
I'm hoping we have a winger or 2 already signed up. Hopefully announced this week.
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I'd say we need to sign two wingers minimum and probably three. We have a few players who can play wide (CCC, Kosylo, Angus maybe) but none for whom it's their best position.
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7 was the figure from Phil - so that's 2 more, plus anyone from United to continue that partnership. That'd be 18 first team players, plus youth.
Of that 2, I would like to see a CM (in the mold of Smith/Maxi) and a a direct, pacy winger (even if they're less technical).
If we can add a 3rd, I'd opt for another winger.
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If Maxi doesn't go out on loan elsewhere than hopefully we will try and get him on loanfor a few months at least
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Personally i prefer a flat back four with wingers as plan a dont think baines at lb has worked before when he was tried there ?
I think the suggestion was Baines on the left of a back three, with Eddy Jones at wing back.
I must admit I'd prefer to go back to the 4231 we know and love, but perhaps we'll continue to alternate between two separate setups again.
It seems to me that Dior Angus can play on the left of a 4231 or partner Regan up front if we went three at the back and two up front.
We opted for a back 3 at Oldham when things weren't quite firing for us. Perhaps a Plan B is afoot.
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Just wondering:-
Where is the interview with Sam Roscoe?
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We opted for a back 3 at Oldham
Especially after James Jones was red carded!
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The one thing that does worry me is the fact we're taking a punt on players from non-Engliah leagues; it's all well and good at the top of those divisions, but not so much towards the lower halves.
What we know is that anyone can give anyone a good game in the National League, week in week out. We saw how much Ollie Byrne struggled to adjust, it could be the case for these new lads too.
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The one thing that does worry me is the fact we're taking a punt on players from non-Engliah leagues; it's all well and good at the top of those divisions, but not so much towards the lower halves.
What we know is that anyone can give anyone a good game in the National League, week in week out. We saw how much Ollie Byrne struggled to adjust, it could be the case for these new lads too.
CCC did okay last time he was here
Roscoe was with Linfield who were runner-up last year and won the NI league the year before last
The lad from Arbroath has had loads of experience too.
I don't think there's much to worry about Marple.
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The one thing that does worry me is the fact we're taking a punt on players from non-Engliah leagues; it's all well and good at the top of those divisions, but not so much towards the lower halves.
What we know is that anyone can give anyone a good game in the National League, week in week out. We saw how much Ollie Byrne struggled to adjust, it could be the case for these new lads too.
CCC did okay last time he was here
Roscoe was with Linfield who were runner-up last year and won the NI league the year before last
The lad from Arbroath has had loads of experience too.
I don't think there's much to worry about Marple.
I feel cautiously optimistic too, but we all thought the likes of Brockbank and Barrows were promising signings this time last year, for example.
At least 'experience' now means closer to 28 than 32; I feel we alternate each summer between going for experience and youth. Last time we did it we got Pringle but also others like Leitch Smith.
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Definitely a different approach to this years recruitment than last.
Time will tell, but seems more measured with experienced players this time
A few more to come in yet
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Definitely a different approach to this years recruitment than last.
Time will tell, but seems more measured with experienced players this time
A few more to come in yet
We obviously wanted to make the extremes in form less severe - but we haven't managed to do so. Maybe we over-think it though, aside from Notts/Wrexham it seems every club this level does it...?
I'd still love Dylan Boyle here based on what I saw at Curzon (and he obviously knows CCC); on the face of it he seemed to have a similar game to Josh Lundstram and could be one young asset to invest in.
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I can’t profess to know too much about these players but having criticised all last summer for not signing adults I can’t complain too much now that has been rectified.
My gripe number two about too many loanees is reduced by these permanent signings also.
My third gripe about Colclough/Mullarkey fees not being reinvested in the squad has been put to bed with CCC signing. Can’t argue with a club record fee in that respect.
I think at this level you’re always one or two light just to have a bit of wriggle room rather than a squad packed with depth. But I think there is more competition for places which is a good thing. James Jones and Lewis Baines we’re ok but we conceded a lot of goals in the end. A bit of competition there, particularly for Baines is a good thing.
I think Byrne needed taking out of the firing line at times as well but getting another gk isn’t so easy.
Maybe the signing of Joey Jones as an actual defensive midfielder rather than Osbourne trying to shore things up may make a difference there.
I think the key aim first up is to hit the ground running this time. We left a lot of points out there for various reasons in august and September and had to play catch up for a fair whiles
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With the squad almost up to strength, gives us a chance to use the friendlies for fine tuning rather than trawling through trialists.
Hopefully this might give us a better chance to hit the ground running in August. 🤞
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I hope we do still use the loan market - but for a bit extra rather than catch-up. I don't mind us being a shop window for a League 2 winger to show his talent for 3 months in Feb-April if it earns us 10 extra points.
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Now I am worried because it all looks and seems to fit together too very nicely. All of the new signings have appropriate experience and each seems to bring a quality to the team that we have been missing and looking for. I am pleased that we have taken these lads on properly as relying on loaners can be a bit hit and miss. I am sure that we will continue to use loan players in order to strengthen areas that need it and it would be fantastic if Man.Utd. could let us have Maxi for a while again. I agree with MarpleAlty that Dylan Boyle would be a good acquisition at this juncture if there are a few coppers left in the pot.
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I’m pleased with the fact PP has gone for experience. It’s ok saying the kids are ones for the future but most the kids we had have now been moved on. Our budget doesn’t really allow for that although it is an honourable idea.
I think Parky has gone down the Experience route to avoid a slow start to the season,
Interesting times at Moss Lane.
Looking fwd to it all.
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I agree, interesting post. Looking forward to seeing the difference between this and last season, hopefully hit the ground running and may surprise a few teams too.
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Think we are done now and ready with our squad for friendlies to start, bring it all on.
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I wonder what other teams think of the signings we have made.
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Compared to most, I think I'm still on the cautiously optimistic side.
It's all well and good signing specific players for specific jobs... but they still have to be quite good at football. United signed Weghorst to fulfil a specific job, and it just turned out he was pretty rubbish in general.
At this level you can't avoid having one or two complete flops, and I'm afraid this coming season will be no different.
The last time we recruited at volume, en masse... it was Neil Young at the start of THAT season. It might be a ridiculous comparison point, but I remember many praising him getting business done early and knowing his targets.
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I guess you're just a glass half empty kind of bloke, Marple!
I kind of agree with you though in that I'm not expecting ALL of them to be brilliant for us.
I'm hoping that the vast majority of them are though 😉
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The problem again is player turnover and for that reason I expect yet another slow start to the season. Having said that, the calibre of player we have signed has without a shadow of a doubt strengthened us.
I'd like to see us bringing a left winger to the club, but I realise that this is highly unlikely now given our recruitment to date. Also, as ONeedham stated, there is a worrying lack of depth in our midfield. Oyedele anyone?
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I expect to see Oyedele playing in a div 1 team at least this coming season
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I would have liked to see a keeper signed before the season starts.
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Compared to most, I think I'm still on the cautiously optimistic side.
It's all well and good signing specific players for specific jobs... but they still have to be quite good at football. United signed Weghorst to fulfil a specific job, and it just turned out he was pretty rubbish in general.
At this level you can't avoid having one or two complete flops, and I'm afraid this coming season will be no different.
The last time we recruited at volume, en masse... it was Neil Young at the start of THAT season. It might be a ridiculous comparison point, but I remember many praising him getting business done early and knowing his targets.
How manu of those players had played CN football. And how many could buy a pint in USA.
Last season recruitment was akin to NY
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Compared to most, I think I'm still on the cautiously optimistic side.
It's all well and good signing specific players for specific jobs... but they still have to be quite good at football. United signed Weghorst to fulfil a specific job, and it just turned out he was pretty rubbish in general.
At this level you can't avoid having one or two complete flops, and I'm afraid this coming season will be no different.
The last time we recruited at volume, en masse... it was Neil Young at the start of THAT season. It might be a ridiculous comparison point, but I remember many praising him getting business done early and knowing his targets.
How manu of those players had played CN football. And how many could buy a pint in USA.
Last season recruitment was akin to NY
Totally agree. We’ve signed a lot of new players but they now have a full (full time) pre season to mold in. The NY debacle was a totally different scenario with a brand new manager coming off the back of a relegation season & in a part time environment. I think our recruitment if National League Twitter is anything to go by has been noted by other fans. We’re widely being bandied about as play off dark horses, even if the odds don’t yet reflect that. I’m optimistic, we’ve signed grown men who know this level already & now they have 6 weeks to train to hit the ground running.
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I'm much more optimistic than last season, on paper we have some good experienced players coming in. As Parky said in the video that they now need to mould them and deliver as a team. Time will tell but now looking forward to the upcoming season.