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Title: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 27, 2010, 05:07:47 PM

From tonight's edition of the Manchester Evening News:


ALTRINCHAM NEED HELP UP FRONT - HEATHCOTE

Non League by Tony Glennon



Altrincham boss Graham Heathcote has warned the Robins risk losing their cherished top-flight status unless he’s given the means to boost his strike force.

The ailing Moss Lane outfit currently prop up the Blue Square Bet Premier after scoring only three times in an opening four match spell which has seen them suffer three odd-goal defeats and register just one point from a draw with Darlington.

And, as Alty prepare for tomorrow’s visit to a York City side similarly still chasing their first win, Heathcote - who lost main strikers Colin Little and Chris Senior in the Summer - admits the Robins’ lack of firepower is already giving him real cause for concern.

He said: “I’ve tried to replace Colin and Chris without spending but it’s already apparent the strikers I’ve brought in are not good enough for this division.

I feel so sorry for our defenders who have done well so far but if things carry on this way, we’re simply not going to score enough goals to keep our heads above water.

“It’s an awful thing to be saying in August but I’m already thinking in terms of a survival fight.”




Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: bigcol on August 27, 2010, 05:34:02 PM
Unless it's reverse mind-games, I'm pleased my name isn't Reeves or Twiss and I've just signed for the mighty Alty.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: joe on August 27, 2010, 05:40:57 PM
Very negative! I can't really see that statement bringing the extra fans we're after through the gate.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: bigcol on August 27, 2010, 05:43:40 PM
There's a simple solution: put our players on 2+ year contracts.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: markecky on August 27, 2010, 06:03:00 PM
Its far to early to say they are not good enough for the division.

Its hardly as if they have wasted chance and chance..they have only had about two chances each all season due fact they we have had no midfield and they have not supplied anything.

I have been impressed with Reeves, we know what Dale can do and Denham for me has worked his tripe off and is definitely good enough for the division.

Not seen enough of Twiss although to start pre season "fat" was pretty inexcusable.  He would be my main worry.

For me this is one of three things.

1) It will motivate them to prove him wrong.

2) It will motvate them to not try a jot

3) He never said it at all.

I guess time will tell.


Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: markecky on August 27, 2010, 06:13:30 PM
There's a simple solution: put our players on 2+ year contracts.

THen we'd be stuck with them for longer?
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: bigcol on August 27, 2010, 06:22:05 PM
If Senior had been on a long-term contract he either would have stayed or would have gone to Darlo via a transfer fee which should then fund a decent replacement.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: fuertes on August 27, 2010, 06:36:43 PM
If Senior had been on a long-term contract he either would have stayed or would have gone to Darlo via a transfer fee which should then fund a decent replacement.

This is a bit naive. I don't think Darlington would have paid much of a fee for a part-time player. We can't afford to tie people down to longish contracts only for them to get injured/not perform.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: fuertes on August 27, 2010, 06:39:57 PM
If GH really said what has been reported, we'll have to trust he knows what he's doing. If all our strikers are the type to respond to a rollocking, it's probably not the worst thing to say. Alternatively, he may have taken Dale and Damien aside and said "I'm happy with your efforts, and I don't want to obviously pick on a single player, but I'm going to mention our striking problems in an attempt to get Twiss to buck up his ideas".

I really don't know, but given his record I think we have to give the manager the benefit of the doubt. I seem to recall he was a bit harsh in his criticism of the players after losing to Luton in the FA Cup, but they responded quite well after that.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: joe on August 27, 2010, 06:42:34 PM
Its far to early to say they are not good enough for the division.

Its hardly as if they have wasted chance and chance..they have only had about two chances each all season due fact they we have had no midfield and they have not supplied anything.

I have been impressed with Reeves, we know what Dale can do and Denham for me has worked his tripe off and is definitely good enough for the division.

Not seen enough of Twiss although to start pre season "fat" was pretty inexcusable.  He would be my main worry.

For me this is one of three things.

1) It will motivate them to prove him wrong.

2) It will motvate them to not try a jot

3) He never said it at all.

I guess time will tell.



[/quote ] I hope the strikers try to prove him wrong but i also hope he's been mis quoted and never said it at all!
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: bigcol on August 27, 2010, 06:45:34 PM
I'm sure other fans share my frustration that a team that was gelling well and starting to show a lot of promise has to be rebuilt again because of players leaving & to a lesser extent injuries.

Guess we need to get used to it.
Title: Strikers
Post by: Ballers on August 27, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
He says strikers that he has brought in. So that's Reeves, Twiss and Holsgrove. Well Twiss hasn't played. Reeves has already scored and looked dangerous at Southport which leaves Holsgrove who seems more of a winger anyway and needs time to adjust to this level. Little strange, maybe GH was just a bit down when he spoke to him.
Title: Re: Strikers
Post by: markecky on August 27, 2010, 06:50:20 PM
He says strikers that he has brought in. So that's Reeves, Twiss and Holsgrove. Well Twiss hasn't played. Reeves has already scored and looked dangerous at Southport which leaves Holsgrove who seems more of a winger anyway and needs time to adjust to this level. Little strange, maybe GH was just a bit down when he spoke to him.

Ballers I stand corrected, although agree fully with the rest of your post.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: taxi Phil on August 27, 2010, 08:18:35 PM
As an exercise in demotivating Reeves and McCready this wants some beating. What worries me even more is the effect on people reading the MEN who might have been thinking of pitching up on Monday, but won't now bother because our own manager is dissing us !
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Leon on August 27, 2010, 08:23:45 PM
Seems these weren't heat-of-the-moment words - we've signed a new striker. See official site.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Bear Town Robin on August 27, 2010, 08:29:50 PM
Quote
Seems these weren't heat-of-the-moment words - we've signed a new striker. See official site.

(http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/resources/images/891837/?type=display)

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/football/warringtontownfc/warringtontownfc/4322603.Town_finish_on_a_high/ (http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/football/warringtontownfc/warringtontownfc/4322603.Town_finish_on_a_high/)
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: bigcol on August 27, 2010, 08:51:41 PM
So it was mind games. Welcome James :)
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: ASMO on August 27, 2010, 09:25:23 PM
Good luck james  and welcome
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 27, 2010, 09:32:26 PM
Good luck James.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: fuertes on August 27, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
Good luck James.

He looks to be a big lad. I wonder if he'll be like John McAliskey with a bit more pace, energy and finishing prowess?
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 27, 2010, 11:07:57 PM
It may just me my computer acting up, but hasn't the article about the new signing disappeared off the main site now?

If it's NOT my computer's fault, has the move fallen through for some reason?  ??? ???
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 27, 2010, 11:11:51 PM
Just realised that and was going to amend my previous post!

Old age really is a b*st*rd isn't it?  :D
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Cheadle Hulme Alty on August 27, 2010, 11:12:29 PM
Jimmy played for my mate's local (The Blue Mugge) in Leek and he told me about him 3 years ago.......I did mean to recommend him to Graham at the time but never got round to it (mainly on the basis I didn't think he'd take any notice!!). My mate reckoned Jimmy could play at our level so it will be interesting to see if he can.
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 27, 2010, 11:34:08 PM
Saw the pic and thought Peter Crouch!
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 28, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
Good luck James.

He looks to be a big lad. I wonder if he'll be like John McAliskey with a bit more pace, energy and finishing prowess?

How on earth could he possibly not have more of those qualities than McAliskey....?!




Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 28, 2010, 12:20:55 AM

I have been impressed with Reeves, we know what Dale can do and Denham for me has worked his tripe off and is definitely good enough for the division.


Ecky,

Alas, we also know what Dale apparently is unable to do i.e. score goals on a regular basis.

Only seven goals in his 49 (+19) appearances to date.




Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: distancetraveller on August 28, 2010, 07:25:29 AM
Welcome to the Alty fold James and good luck. Competition for places is never a bad thing.

Personally I think its a bit early to be saying our strikers are not good enough.. Reeves has played all right since he came and I am sure he will start finding the net soon... I reckon if you asked Twiss he himself would admit he could have started the pre season fitter than he did.. We all know what Dale brings to the table.. He will never be a prolific goal scorer but he has the capability to bring other players in to the game and once he is fully back to fitness he will contribute more up front..

I am still optimistic about the season and just hope we can start to field a settled mid field who have the ability to control the middle of the park....

Injuries and suspensions will be our biggest achilles heel this season
Cmon ALTY....



Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Toff Apple on August 28, 2010, 08:07:19 AM
Saw the pic and thought Peter Crouch!
I saw the picture and thought wes!
Title: Re: "Strikers...are not good enough for this division"
Post by: Jezza on August 28, 2010, 10:52:44 AM
welcome James and good luck.

personally I think the 'cote must have been at best mosquoted....he would never even think he had to have the means to sign better players let alone issue such a Harry Redknapp style threat.

He may have said we need to score more goals but he must also be thinking heavily about last minute goals going in and thus the defence/midfield...it's a double edged sword at the moment and both problems just need a tweak and we'll start picking up more points.