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Title: Down at last
Post by: Butchers on April 26, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
The one consolation from this sorry season is...........YOU'LL BE COMING WITH US. ;D
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: j.b on April 26, 2008, 08:12:19 PM
I cant stop laughing, feel a bit sorry for some of you
but one Alty fan insisted on coming on the Macc Town board
giving it the big one we were going down.......

Where are you now mate, You couldn't make this up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 26, 2008, 08:14:04 PM
I cant stop laughing, feel a bit sorry for some of you
but one Alty fan insisted on coming on the Macc Town board
giving it the big one we were going down.......

Where are you now mate, You couldn't make this up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why are you so bothered about a club you havent played or over a decade you sheep shagging prick
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: j.b on April 26, 2008, 08:16:17 PM
lets all laugh at alty, lets all laugh at alty, na na na na

Stick to Ice skating you Wasters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: sheepshagger on April 26, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
why are you so bothered about a club you havent played or over a decade you sheep shagging prick
 
 
cos its fun you to laugh at you
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Butchers on April 26, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
There will be tears and riots all over Wythenshawe tonight folks!.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 26, 2008, 08:24:23 PM
They'll be tears and riots all over Wythenshawe tonight folks!.

why would a droylsden fan want to gloat over alty going down , no rivalry and a few of us actuallly like droylsden me included
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: j.b on April 26, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
Fooking scum, havin we hate macc flags,

Go bust you dicks
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Dougals Dad on April 26, 2008, 08:50:22 PM
Fooking scum, havin we hate macc flags,

Go bust you dicks

Ah, but we won't; but you could!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: j.b on April 26, 2008, 08:59:47 PM
Keep smiling through, just like Alty used to do
 coz you know your goin down to the conference north.......
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Dougals Dad on April 26, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
This thread must be about the time I remember looking for good quality pillows.

There were lots of foam ones and all other sorts of artificial fillings.

Then I found the one I wanted and announced: "Down at last"
Title: don't feed the trolls!
Post by: Alty TV on April 26, 2008, 09:14:33 PM
Don't feed the trolls
We've been relegated again and deserve some of the flack we're bound to take.
Unfortunateley there are those Alty fans who would take great pleasure in trolling our rivals forums if the boot were on the other foot
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 09:19:29 PM
Unlucky alty,

I'll never pretend to like you but wanted you there in case we ever dropped a division. You never like you're rivals being above you but never want them to drop too far as it makes real rivalry even more of a memory.

Chins up fellas
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Farsley40 on April 26, 2008, 09:23:01 PM
You guys deserved to go down with us (Farsley) because of what's happened over the past few seasons. You've got a commendably passionate forum occupied by a large set of commendably passionate fans, but for you guys to survive this season would have been highly unjust. You may still do survive if somebody goes bust, but I hope that doesn't happen.

They should change the rules so teams can't stay up on a technicality two seasons running. There's a chance you guys might stay up having been relegated three times where as Droylsden, Stafford, and Farsley go down having been relegated only once.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Dougals Dad on April 26, 2008, 09:26:42 PM
In fairness we did finish above you which does give us first dibs at the AGM.
I appreciate we have been very lucky, but if other clubs are run outside of the rules then we cannot be responsible for the action taken against them. I am sure all clubs would not be unhappy to benefit from the mismanagement of others.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Farsley40 on April 26, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
Personally I'd rather stay relegated than see two clubs go out of business. That's not a nice thing.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
Farsley fan we don't enjoy staying up on technicalities but to be really honest this league is so full of corruption that it is done for us. Think about it, if it was a level playing field each season we would be a regular mid table side.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Dougals Dad on April 26, 2008, 09:32:26 PM

Personally I'd rather stay relegated than see two clubs go out of business. That's not a nice thing.

Never said anything about going out of business, both Scarboro & Boston were simple relegated (though the former sadly went out of business through no fault of anyone but themselves). I, too, don;t want to see clubs going out of business, but I also would not like to be owed money by a club only to receive, for instance, 2.5pence out of every pound owed.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 09:47:15 PM
Exactly Jens dad.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: j.b on April 26, 2008, 09:54:43 PM
Stop fooking moaning you losers,  DOWN AND OUT

You deserve everything you get.

We have watched one of your so called fans come on our message board for the
last couple of months and constantly tell us were going down,

He who laughs last laughs longest, No sympathy, WEEP YOU SCUM
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 09:57:14 PM
Stop fooking moaning you losers,  DOWN AND OUT

You deserve everything you get.

We have watched one of your so called fans come on our message board for the
last couple of months and constantly tell us were going down,

He who laughs last laughs longest, No sympathy, WEEP YOU SCUM

ignore.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: The Volunteer on April 26, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
Yeah, perhaps those muckspreading Vics name even on the national forum and on the Conf North forum should contain their envy next season- unless of course they`ve managed not to direct their vitriol at the Conference itself- in which case the Old Pals Act could still be on.
I remember Jezza comin on the Vics site after we got our reprieve telling us that Alty would be too proud to accept staying up by default  (& by the way we got demoted on non-playing grounds a year or two later) and that we should be embarrassed to accept the chance of stayin up.
Apols to the decent Robins for draggin all this up but I`d advise you to try and keep the few websters in your fold from embittering relations with rival clubs.
And cheer up - tis only togger.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Alty Dave on April 26, 2008, 10:14:30 PM
I was born in Halifax but am quite happy to say F*ck off Farsley and I hope Halifax go bump, because it is totally unjust if Fax stay up.

Come on Alty, as usual 1 goal would have done it.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Narcissist on April 26, 2008, 10:16:33 PM
Stop fooking moaning you losers,  DOWN AND OUT

You deserve everything you get.

We have watched one of your so called fans come on our message board for the
last couple of months and constantly tell us were going down,

He who laughs last laughs longest, No sympathy, WEEP YOU SCUM

You are an eloquent individual with a clear grasp of the English language and a passion for local rivalry.

No doubt you will celebrate your latest venture into the area of banter by flicking over to the other tab you have open on your dads PC and bashing one out to the lovely fluffy animals in the graphics.

I cant wait to see the post you come up with next season when we start back in the BSP following our next reprieve.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: The Volunteer on April 26, 2008, 10:18:08 PM
But you won only 9 out of 46 games... Halifax have had 10 pts deducted already - otherwise you would have been relegated on Tuesday.
OK - got that one off me chest (even if you don`t agree)
How many did you take today?
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: j.b on April 26, 2008, 10:24:13 PM
Weather you stay up or not who gives a fook

You still will be below the Silkmen as you have been for many years.

You are the club no one likes, get used to it loser.   ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: stubmanred on April 26, 2008, 10:24:25 PM
To everyone else that says I told you so! f**k OFF !! It's only a small element that spend their time to go on your fourms and say anything.

Don't come on here and rub the salt in.

Macc - You always have a good March - invraiably because you've changed managers twice a year! I think we'd give you a game (even given your current position!) considering we're no longer your rivals your spending a lot of time talking about it - W*****S

Farsley - Why are you moaning? You seriously didn't deserve to stay up! What do you want a sympathy vote? See you next year - When you're full time (HA-HA)

Anybody else - say your piece and go away.. We'll get a hat-trick via the AGM?
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Bath Alty on April 26, 2008, 10:26:09 PM
I think the rules for going into admin should be changed to align the penalty with the scale of financial overspending on players you can't afford.  So if you agree a CVA to pay 80p in th epound you keep 80% of your points for the season.  If you have spent £2m you don't have and can afford just £50k then you keep just 2.5% of the points you've won!

Frankly if you gave me £2m to spend I could earn more than 10 points with it!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Alty Dave on April 26, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
More than you brought to us, when we are 50 miles away!!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 10:42:14 PM
To everyone else that says I told you so! f**k OFF !! It's only a small element that spend their time to go on your fourms and say anything.

Don't come on here and rub the salt in.

Macc - You always have a good March - invraiably because you've changed managers twice a year! I think we'd give you a game (even given your current position!) considering we're no longer your rivals your spending a lot of time talking about it - W*****S

Farsley - Why are you moaning? You seriously didn't deserve to stay up! What do you want a sympathy vote? See you next year - When you're full time (HA-HA)

Anybody else - say your piece and go away.. We'll get a hat-trick via the AGM?
we do always have a good march,as (for some reason) we always pick a sh*t manager but know when he is sh*t and replace him (maybe something to think about). you are always our rivals,anyone who says otherwise is talking rubbish. best of luck
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 11:10:11 PM
we do always have a good march,as (for some reason) we always pick a sh*t manager but know when he is sh*t and replace him (maybe something to think about). you are always our rivals,anyone who says otherwise is talking rubbish. best of luck
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Thanks for the real and proper sentiments Macc fan, real fans understand how these things feel, gloating about things like this helps no one and can only bite back, one day we will play each other again, hopefully soon in a decent league or competition.

Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 11:11:20 PM
each to their own mate. to me alty are our main rivals, the only team i detest (my dad told me too!). Because of this i want them round about where we are.  County are nothing, if you're too young to remember (in which case fair enough) or really drunk (again, fair enough)you dont realise what truly great rivalry we have against these boys.

we do laugh at them, they call us cu*ts,no problem with that. i'd love a proper derby again. stop making a fool of yourself
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 11:15:05 PM
mtfc1, I hope you are responding to your rather silly boy poster from Macc and not my comment otherwise you should read it again.

Actually rereading this after eleventeen pints I think you were, sorry, a bit stressy right now.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 11:17:48 PM
mtfc1, I hope you are responding to your rather silly boy poster from Macc and not my comment otherwise you should read it again.

i'm responding to the d1ck mate not you!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 11:19:09 PM
I know see above!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 11:26:41 PM
no problem, ignore them young un's from macc (bright future......dole, drugs etc!). How has tarzan done for you this season (tinno, looks like tarzan plays like jane as stuart hall once put it)?
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 11:34:02 PM
I think Tinno has played his last season at BSP level, I'll never slag any of our players who try and genuinely believe, we have had a few before. Tinno wasn't one of those to me, Keith Russell anyone.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 11:37:42 PM
that bad? always used to be solid and despite his lack of pace, only ever mistakes that let him down (but going back about 6 years there)

Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: SW on April 26, 2008, 11:43:29 PM
No not bad the guy is a giant but sadly this league has become so much more competitive in the last few seasons that it isn't a place a player can see out his last few years anymore.

I wonder how well our great sides of 79-82 would compete now. Likewise your grudgingy accepted side of 95-06?i
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 11:48:54 PM
instead of 95-06 for us you should read 95-00. since then we have just done enough with the odd signing like richie barker, rickie lambert, jon parkin making us just better than the norm. all other years we've just done ok no better!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Unemployed Coalminer on April 26, 2008, 11:52:05 PM
Serious question. Weren't Macc part-time when they won the Conference? If so the division has certainly changed out of all recognition since those days.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 26, 2008, 11:57:09 PM
yes mate,only went full time after promotion. I'm sure some players (Chris Byrne, John Askey etc) were on full time wages but officially you're correct. Massive difference to nowadays and I think they were better than some of the Sh1te on show nowadays but thats just the way things go unfortunately.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: The Volunteer on April 27, 2008, 12:04:03 AM
Pretty insipid rivalry from here mtfc1-
you are two leagues apart- as Vics may yet be from Witton-
at least Wrexham v Vics will see some real passion next season
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: mtfc1 on April 27, 2008, 12:11:17 AM
occasional rivalry comes and goes The Volunteer. Real rivalry stays, I always look out for you lot,as I know Northwich aren't a proper football team you know neither are Stockport County. You are the only club i dislike (because of rivalry), yet know some fans in Weymouth right now who I am genuinely gutted for!
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: The Volunteer on April 27, 2008, 12:20:04 AM
I always look out for you lot,as I know Northwich aren't a proper football team you know neither are Stockport County. You are the only club i dislike (because of rivalry)
eh???
I can only conclude you have a cosy Alty thing? (As I say, not much of a rvalry- esp when some of this lot slag your club off far and wide)   
That`s perfectly OK by me, cos we can stick to our little patch of Mid-Cheshire and what we`re good at-
stayin in the Conference.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: HalifaxWhacker on April 27, 2008, 12:25:32 AM
Gutted that it came down to the two of us, I'm good mates with Chrissy Senior and I hope you keep him, still twists and turns that may save you though.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: AltyFC on April 27, 2008, 01:28:29 AM
You guys deserved to go down with us (Farsley) because of what's happened over the past few seasons. You've got a commendably passionate forum occupied by a large set of commendably passionate fans, but for you guys to survive this season would have been highly unjust. You may still do survive if somebody goes bust, but I hope that doesn't happen.
YOU KNOB
They should change the rules so teams can't stay up on a technicality two seasons running. There's a chance you guys might stay up having been relegated three times where as Droylsden, Stafford, and Farsley go down having been relegated only once.
I HOPE YOU DIE YOU WOOLY C**t
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: hsmith1 on April 27, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
Cheers HalifaxWhacker,this is how it should be between clubs.Not the silly posts earlier.If you do not get your debts sorted and you do get kicked I will be sorry to see you go,i remember Halifax under Alan Ball senior and Alty first playing you in The FA Cup.good luck what everhappens.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: wayno on April 27, 2008, 09:45:55 AM
You guys deserved to go down with us (Farsley) because of what's happened over the past few seasons. You've got a commendably passionate forum occupied by a large set of commendably passionate fans, but for you guys to survive this season would have been highly unjust. You may still do survive if somebody goes bust, but I hope that doesn't happen.

They should change the rules so teams can't stay up on a technicality two seasons running. There's a chance you guys might stay up having been relegated three times where as Droylsden, Stafford, and Farsley go down having been relegated only once.

Why is it unjust to survive due to having a strong buisness plan ethic alongside running a family orientated club?

If you are in retail and you dont make enough money to cover the rent, wages and power etc your buisness closes its as simple as that.

Clubs who do not run there finances correctly should be closed. The rule of a 10 point deduction is fundementaly flawed. In my eyes it should be automatic relegation at the very least.

PS I am devestated that we have been relegated. Long live the Alty.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: markecky on April 27, 2008, 09:50:50 AM
For me there is no argument.

Halifax got more points than up by losing £30,000 a month, money they did not have.

If we had spent another £30,000 a month we would have had more points.

If you can do it and get away with it, the gamble was worth it (VICS)

If you do it and it backfires on you, thats life.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Jezza on April 27, 2008, 10:09:20 AM
Not sure why macc are so happy....that must mean they still see us as major rivals? I guess just as all the football league (apart from Accy) look down at the joke club they feel some psychological need to look down on someone themselves????? fulltime and their gates aren't even double ours in the football league???

I find it bizarre Farsley are upset...the rules are simple and clear.....finish 4th bottom and you have hope of a reprieve.

I'm sorry for Stafford and Droylsden, I'm pleased for Vics they managed to get out of it.

Halifax's 'penalty' for buying points with money they did not have was a relegation scrap...is that enough? The rule needs changing..maybe put and keep the cluib onto zero points and they can't earn any more until they have paid the cva in full?

But I'm f*cking chuffed to bits Farsley are out....I hate these progressive clubs who claim to have crowds growing year on year and get promoted with a ground hardly fit for East Cheshire League and then they give it the old "we're going full time on gates of 500".

And when Vics did finally get kicked out they regained their honour by coming back the hard way and were congratulated by Alty fans..........my real gripe with Vics was that you could see their financial problems looming but they said no problem at vics we're heading for the fooball league (this was when telford saved them) yet their ground was not going to be finished clearly and money had run out....they were very lucky to actually complete the next season's fixtures......clearly at the time, telford were a sounder financial bet than Northwich and they knew it.

That's all in the past now but at least Alty fans show some embarassment at the reprieves and some do say they don't want one so at least we have morals at Alty....but maybe that's our problem?
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Butchers on April 28, 2008, 02:48:34 PM
If there is any justice left in football (and please god there is) Then you will not be allowed to profit once again from another teams misfortune. >:(
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: altrincham on April 28, 2008, 02:55:08 PM
dunce
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 28, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
If there is any justice left in football (and please god there is) Then you will not be allowed to profit once again from another teams misfortune. >:(

I think you mean mis-management ... or bad management ... or shady/dodgy management.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: markecky on April 28, 2008, 02:56:19 PM
If there is any justice left in football (and please god there is) Then you will not be allowed to profit once again from another teams misfortune. >:(

Do you need it explaining to you again?  Jesus Christ....
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Leon on April 28, 2008, 02:57:16 PM
Yes, because getting into crippling debt when your business model involves losing £30,000 a month really is jolly bad luck, isn't it?

If there is any justice left in football (and please god there is) Then you will not be allowed to profit once again from another teams misfortune. >:(
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on April 28, 2008, 03:03:45 PM
You guys deserved to go down with us (Farsley) because of what's happened over the past few seasons. You've got a commendably passionate forum occupied by a large set of commendably passionate fans, but for you guys to survive this season would have been highly unjust. You may still do survive if somebody goes bust, but I hope that doesn't happen.

They should change the rules so teams can't stay up on a technicality two seasons running. There's a chance you guys might stay up having been relegated three times where as Droylsden, Stafford, and Farsley go down having been relegated only once.

Just to play out this argument one more time... we wouldn't be in the bottom four if other teams above us played by the rules and didn't spend beyond their means only to shaft their creditors later in the season.
Title: Re: Down at last
Post by: Longman on April 28, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
If there is any justice left in football (and please god there is) Then you will not be allowed to profit once again from another teams misfortune. >:(

You are clearly extremely thick.