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Title: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 14, 2024, 03:50:59 PM
After yesterday, we need a result.

I hope we get at them from the whistle. High tempo and positive.

Hopefully, PP is brave and we start our best 11 and formation.

We dramatically reduce our threat, when we play wingbacks and Chesterfield would eventually pick us off.

Team near enough picks itself.

                   
                         Ross

Banks   Cooper/Roscoe  Baines   Jones

           Marriott     Osborne

 Amaluzor       CCC       Newby

                    Linney

Subs : Cooper, Mooney, Kossy, Wilson, Angus

Think he will start Cooper over Roscoe because he likes right and left foot CB’s. I have been impressed with Roscoe recently, wins a lot of headers. I personally would have him and Baines on Tuesday.

Amaluzor is due a good game, can go missing in away games.

Think it will be a draw.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 14, 2024, 04:55:02 PM
I'd rip your hands off for a draw right now. gh
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 14, 2024, 05:29:11 PM
that would be my starting 11.

chesterfield 2-1 alty (con-clarke)
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on January 15, 2024, 10:28:08 AM
Just to remind you those that cannot go like myself, yo can also buy the stream to watch the game live on TV. For a game like this as I have done so.

I cannot get to Chesterfield that night but am going to watch it on TV via the National League site.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 15, 2024, 01:22:21 PM
I think it's the sort of game that he'll deploy a back three:

                             Ross
             Cooper  Roscoe  Baines
Banks                                              Jones
                 Marriott     Osborne
                              CCC
           Amaluzor                Linney

As you've mentioned, Roscoe has earned his spot with his aerial strength and the wing backs can give us extra protection when we're pegged back.

On the counter, we need our most direct forwards on the pitch and so I think I'd keep Alex Newby on the bench to begin with, and see how we get on.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on January 15, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
Before i buy a ticket, is there any whisper of a postponement bearing in mind the low temperatures?
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 16, 2024, 01:58:47 PM
For me, it's the team and formation at the top of this thread, but 3 centre backs is not inconceivable for this fixture.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on January 16, 2024, 02:07:21 PM
Other five games are off. Chesterfield frost covers appear to have worked.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 16, 2024, 03:47:54 PM
Temperature has been above freezing since late morning and they haven't had the snow we've had in the north west - so the pitch should be OK, will be baltic though.

Hopefully the weather will act as a bit of a leveller.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 16, 2024, 06:54:09 PM
Perfect team. Let's hope we can get a perfect result!
Come on you Super Robins 👍
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: b23 on January 16, 2024, 07:12:05 PM
Good attacking line up. Why not...you never know. Go for it lads
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 16, 2024, 07:36:17 PM
Apparently Ethan injured in the warm up.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on January 16, 2024, 07:52:53 PM
Seriously? What happened?

BTW - anyone able to get on the National League TV stream?
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on January 16, 2024, 07:57:27 PM
Pulled up in the warm up according to Radio Robins. Gould almost just had a howler but recovered in time :-\
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on January 16, 2024, 08:01:15 PM
National League TV stream has finally come to life!
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 16, 2024, 08:34:58 PM
Their commentator is ridiculous!

Chesterfield have dominated, with the entire game being played in our half so far apparently...
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 16, 2024, 08:37:44 PM
Stream was working or me from 7.45. Must be a local problem.
Good equaliser!
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on January 16, 2024, 08:38:38 PM
How good is Eddie Jones and Lewis Baines at the back! Good to see them back in there together. Is Will Grigg playing???
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 16, 2024, 08:57:56 PM
Classic one from the commentator: "Altrincham's goalkeeper hasn't had much more to do than Tyrer"
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on January 16, 2024, 09:27:44 PM
Balls  :-[
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 16, 2024, 09:29:31 PM
The lads can feel hard done by.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on January 16, 2024, 09:35:18 PM
6 added minutes
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on January 16, 2024, 09:43:42 PM
Harsh on Alty. Great game apart from the result.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 16, 2024, 09:46:34 PM
Tonight's performance shows that we are a very good team but we can't afford to be complacent. Oldham and Rochdale are behind us and are big threats. If we want this, I feel we must beat Rochdale next Tuesday - a huge game.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 16, 2024, 09:51:08 PM
Played really well at times. Eddie Jones was very good.
Poor subs let Chesterfield come onto us.
No idea what is up with Amaluzor but he was shocking when he came on. He watched Berry run past him.
As for Angus, brings nothing. Linney was a constant threat, just keep him on for the 90, he didn’t play on Saturday.
I hope Ross’s injury isn’t serious. Gould should have saved that first goal.
Most gutting for me is that we have loss and out of the trophy, such a shame.
Need to dip into the loan market for a back up striker and CM.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 16, 2024, 09:51:18 PM
Tonight's performance shows that we are a very good team but we can't afford to be complacent. Oldham and Rochdale are behind us and are big threats. If we want this, I feel we must beat Rochdale next Tuesday - a huge game.
Rochdale have no keeper since their lad was recalled to go to warm the bench at Northampton instead. Decent timing with no other senior keeper on their books.

I think we were robbed by fate tonight, Ethan saves the first goal just by the virtue of being larger. The second was a great goal, but again, I wonder about the lost height.

Other than that it was just your run of the mill top of the table clash between the best two teams in the league. Standard Alty stuff.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 16, 2024, 09:52:33 PM
I thought the commentator was decent. Especially considering he had no summariser. I thought he gave credit where it was due to our players and fans. He recognised our players pretty well and slipped a couple of Alty facts in there. He was mistake. That Parky played for us but did say he had a feeling he had so overall very good for a home voice.

I thought we played well. Personally still not 100% convinced on Newby. Positionally very iffy and going forward isnt earth shattering for me. Didn’t see the Barnet game to be fair.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 16, 2024, 09:54:11 PM
I also agree on keeping Linney on ahead of any other option we have.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 16, 2024, 09:55:33 PM


We really have to hope that Ross isn't out of action for a prolonged period. He is so important for us and I feel that he would have saved Banks' shot which put them 1-0 up.

Didn't deserve to lose that one. Chesterfield were simply more clinical than us when presented with a chance, and it was written in the stars that Berry would score.

At least there's always the FA Trophy.
Oh.....

Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on January 16, 2024, 10:14:46 PM
Well that was a very encouraging performance against a really excellent side. Chesterfield are by far the best team in this league but we battled well even with Ross having to drop out so late on. I think it’s one of those where yes we have lost the match but the performance levels were still there and against any other side in the league we’d have probably picked something up tonight.

Not as important to the playoff push as Saturday might be, I think everyone will probably lose to them but we ran them close and were perhaps unlucky not to pick up a point.

I thought Gould actually did fine overall although I agree with others that Ross might have saved the first one. It’s always tricky for a keeper when they’re not playing every week anyway but to suddenly get thrown in so close to kick off adds an extra dimension to it all.  It does highlight how integral Ross has been to where we are this season, however.

In terms of subs, Linney had a brilliant game…just so dangerous on the ball and creative. His part for our equaliser was superb but I do think he was exhausted so no harm in bringing Angus on at that point who does have it in him. I thought Amaluzor looked a bit off it when he came on and probably didn’t quite have enough time to get into the game. I’m not sure if him not starting is tactical or that he’s carrying a knock?

Anyway, decent performance but Chesterfield are 12 points clear for a reason and found a way again like title winners tend to do.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on January 16, 2024, 11:32:20 PM
Agreed, shows how far Parky and Sorvs have brought the team on to put in a very encouraging performance away at the league leaders. Eddie Jones and Regan Linney in particular were superb, pity we can't get the full 90 minutes from Regan Linney yet.
Hope Ethan Ross recovers soon, Matt Gould did pretty well in goal but Ethan Ross has made a big difference this season overall.

Keep up those levels though and we should be on for a very good rest of season.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on January 16, 2024, 11:56:56 PM
That was a harsh result, absolutely deserved the draw but that's life.

How good were the Alty fans though! Superb all night, barely a whisper from 6400 homers apart from a drum until they went 2 1 up.

So close to a point.

Up the Alty.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 17, 2024, 08:00:19 AM
High praise from the Chesterfield fans on social media (the best the commentator could manage was that we gave them an 'intriguing game') who said we're the best team to come to them this season.

As much as the other teams have closed in around us, if we play like that for the remainder of the season I think we should be OK for the playoffs.

It's only a matter of time now until Regan finds his shooting boots - the chance he fashioned for himself in the first half I'd back him to put away in a few weeks - and then we really will be something.

4 points from Southend and Dale would be ideal.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 17, 2024, 09:18:11 AM
Agree with the other comments. It didn't feel like a defeat and I was feeling comfortable most of the time against the run away league leaders at their place. It was so good to see where we are compared with a team that is nailed on to win the league.

I thought the pitch had a lot to do with the quality of the football last night. It looked so much better than ours is at the moment. They've obviously had less rain.

I'm hoping Dan will go to Southend and have a point to prove at the weekend.

Next Tuesday we've all got a point to prove because we were pretty poor at Spotland. Nothing less than an emphatic victory required.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 17, 2024, 09:43:30 AM
We do seem to perform better against the top teams.

Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 17, 2024, 09:43:56 AM
High praise from the Chesterfield fans on social media (the best the commentator could manage was that we gave them an 'intriguing game') who said we're the best team to come to them this season.


That’s not true. He repeatedly complemented us, in particular that we looked very solid at the back.  He also mentioned we were a threat going forward especially on the break and that we had provided a stern test of their winning home record. He also acknowledged on more than one occasion that our defenders had kept Grieg very quiet all night. Nothing we didn’t deserve but he gave credit where it was due and therefore so am I!
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 17, 2024, 09:58:29 AM
High praise from the Chesterfield fans on social media (the best the commentator could manage was that we gave them an 'intriguing game') who said we're the best team to come to them this season.


That’s not true. He repeatedly complemented us, in particular that we looked very solid at the back.  He also mentioned we were a threat going forward especially on the break and that we had provided a stern test of their winning home record. He also acknowledged on more than one occasion that our defenders had kept Grieg very quiet all night. Nothing we didn’t deserve but he gave credit where it was due and therefore so am I!

Interesting how we see things differently - all our free kicks were met with 'come off it / he's barely touched him there' etc - and when Berry scored it was 'all their pressure finally paid off'

Happy to acknowledge balanced commentary teams where due - and in fairness he put in more research than most - maybe I'm asking too much!

In fairness give me a sole commentator over a co-commentary team that have forced banter with each other - call me a miserabke git but I'm not interested, just concentrate on the action please!
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on January 17, 2024, 12:27:06 PM
Well that was a very encouraging performance against a really excellent side. Chesterfield are by far the best team in this league but we battled well even with Ross having to drop out so late on. I think it’s one of those where yes we have lost the match but the performance levels were still there and against any other side in the league we’d have probably picked something up tonight.

Not as important to the playoff push as Saturday might be, I think everyone will probably lose to them but we ran them close and were perhaps unlucky not to pick up a point.

I thought Gould actually did fine overall although I agree with others that Ross might have saved the first one. It’s always tricky for a keeper when they’re not playing every week anyway but to suddenly get thrown in so close to kick off adds an extra dimension to it all.  It does highlight how integral Ross has been to where we are this season, however.

In terms of subs, Linney had a brilliant game…just so dangerous on the ball and creative. His part for our equaliser was superb but I do think he was exhausted so no harm in bringing Angus on at that point who does have it in him. I thought Amaluzor looked a bit off it when he came on and probably didn’t quite have enough time to get into the game. I’m not sure if him not starting is tactical or that he’s carrying a knock?

Anyway, decent performance but Chesterfield are 12 points clear for a reason and found a way again like title winners tend to do.
On point and in full agreement Golf Roader .  The Spireites are a League 1 side in all but name and we went toe to toe with them for the full 90 .  It actually reminded me of the cup games against Pompey and Colchester from that division where we deserved better but conceded to late winners.   As a point of interest i looked up the final League 1 table the season of the latter defeat , 2016 . The line up included SC**thorpe 7th , Rochdale 10th , Southend 14th , Bury 16th , Oldham 17th and Chesterfield 18th and all clear of the bottom four of course . How times change , football ....bloody hell.!
 
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 17, 2024, 12:33:14 PM
High praise from the Chesterfield fans on social media (the best the commentator could manage was that we gave them an 'intriguing game') who said we're the best team to come to them this season.


That’s not true. He repeatedly complemented us, in particular that we looked very solid at the back.  He also mentioned we were a threat going forward especially on the break and that we had provided a stern test of their winning home record. He also acknowledged on more than one occasion that our defenders had kept Grieg very quiet all night. Nothing we didn’t deserve but he gave credit where it was due and therefore so am I!

Interesting how we see things differently - all our free kicks were met with 'come off it / he's barely touched him there' etc - and when Berry scored it was 'all their pressure finally paid off'

Happy to acknowledge balanced commentary teams where due - and in fairness he put in more research than most - maybe I'm asking too much!

In fairness give me a sole commentator over a co-commentary team that have forced banter with each other - call me a miserabke git but I'm not interested, just concentrate on the action please!

I didn’t say he was balanced and I disagreed with his view on some ref decisions as you suggest but he did give us credit for playing well / being good team etc which you said he didn’t. He also mentioned “noisy fans” on a couple if occasions once saying we had made as much noise as theirs so overall as good as I’ve heard from a home commentary
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on January 17, 2024, 12:35:17 PM
Just spotted in the Derbyshire Times one of their defenders had to go to hospital after the game. I wish him well. I think it must have been the clash with Linney. Did anyone see what happened?
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 17, 2024, 01:25:27 PM
Looked like accidental clash of heads and their guys chin seemed to come off worst
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: PukkaPieman on January 17, 2024, 04:34:03 PM
Just seen the Chesterfield highlights and Linney was ONSIDE when he scored see video 1.15 onwards. When Jones shot Regan was ONSIDE played on by Grimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-H2Ad4N3A&t=150s

The replay isnt shown on the Alty TV away shorts but on their video you can see he was on.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: Bath Alty on January 17, 2024, 05:32:37 PM
Oh that’s not even close is it?  Very poor decision that even VAR would have fixed!
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 17, 2024, 05:57:15 PM
Just seen the Chesterfield highlights and Linney was ONSIDE when he scored see video 1.15 onwards. When Jones shot Regan was ONSIDE played on by Grimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-H2Ad4N3A&t=150s

The replay isnt shown on the Alty TV away shorts but on their video you can see he was on.

I did think it felt like it was on at the time.
Title: Re: Chesterfield Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on January 18, 2024, 02:02:42 AM
He is on!  Piss poor from the liner that……😠