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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on June 07, 2007, 07:00:19 PM
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So,how is everybodies mindset? Is there a chance we may be playing conference national football next season? I get the feeling they may just let things go on as they are and hope for the best.The silence coming from the conference is pretty baffling, unless, as in war of the worlds they are "quietly drawing up there plans against us" so to speak and have been watching on with interest and already know the outcome of saturdays AGM and have decided a club or two is in for the high jump and will reveal all in bournemouth on saturday.
Thoughts???
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We have a 1 in 20 chance of staying up my head says yes my heart says no.
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80% sure we will be in the BSN >:(
could be wrong though ;D
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Have converted to RC, Islam, Mormon and all other known religions and am spending the next 48 hours on prayer mat but still think we're off to Barrow.
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Have converted to RC, Islam, Mormon and all other known religions and am spending the next 48 hours on prayer mat but still think we're off to Barrow.
Thats your problem your praying in the wrong direction Blue squre premier doesn't go that far
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I thin k we have to feel what it would be like as a supporter of one of the teams in supposed peril hold our hands up and get on with planning for promotion next year
if we are a winning team next year it will not affect crowds and income too much.
however this even minded theory doesnt apply if the salt pit dwellers get chucked out i would happily take their place.
a play off final win at stoke against Tamworth and a cup run that knocks out the canniving cheats at boston and crawley(last minute kingy /neenan esque penalty) with a third round tie against man u would make it even sweeter. me to win the lottery and a night with any super model.
well a man can hope
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I wonder just how much the appointment of Steve Evans will have got people backs up in the Conference boardroom for Crawley. Or will they have a dig around and find something on the ever popular Mr Connett and make him a scapegoat? Have Halifax worried them with the uncertainty there? And as for Boston, the ground is boarded up with no manager and owing £3 milliion quid. Welcome back lads.
I think we may get a reprieve. I just hope we haven't talked ourselves out of one.
I also just hope we have a press statement prepared that isn't along the lines "Christ Almighty..thats done it now"
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Think we are more deserving of a place in the league than the likes of Crawley who have blatantly cheated time and time again signing players and mercenaries when they are supposedly in admin. Boston are a joke, cant see that mess being sorted out today so we'll surely be ahead of them i the pecking order!
But thats just it, surely we deserve that league more than them but in my heart I know that where the conf is involved the right thing rarely gets done.
I think its 50/50, purely down to Boston.
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I think that too much has actually gone on for anything to happen and the conference may just have to try and let it ride. Depends on BS and Setenta I guess, will there be more damage done by clubs being chucked out or remaining in the league but in a mess. Whilst Crawley, Boston, Halifax, Weymuff are hardly Real Madrid I don't think Steenta would want a league with us Tam Port St Albans Droylsden F\rsley Histon Salisbury in it. How weak would that league be?
Whilst I think Crawley should have been chucked out ages ago I dont't garee with all the shenanigans. i.e. the rules should say, in administration for more than 3 months - definately relegated, enter into a CVA - thrown out immediately, as things stand they don't exactly say that. Therefore, Halifax have no chairnman etc, big deal, they'll get taken over, no way they won't not play on.. So Crawley pay people less than they owe them, nowt to do with football just means that no one will give them credit, Weymuff owe £2mil, doesn't make much different.. Boston are just hamming up the difficulty, wheres he benefit in saying oh look we've sorted everything out.. And as for Vics - they've got an ego trip chairman and no manager, hardly unusual or grounds for being thrown out.
I don't really think any could be thrown out if we're honest. For me I think we have a problem in that Southport need finished 2 places below us, 3 teams may be 2 much for Charlie Clapham to justify, if they were behind us maybe CRawley and Boston would cop it, God knows. Also don't think there is too much pressure from other clubs, I doubt Phil Wallace post Trophy money gives a toss about anyone else in the league at all now and Peakeys mob are safe and looking a settled club.
I don't think the conference clubs want to rock the boat and jeopordise their new cash (The conf can easily withold tv money as bonds of paymentas well). I can't see how you could chuck one out but not 3 or 4, is there really a difference between Weymouth who are in admin and Crawley who are not.
I would hope for a reprieve but can't see it. A real sham as next year looks a weakish conference that I'm sure we could do better in. What I will say is that if no one is chucked out then it confirms that the conference is sorrupt. Not because we'll go down (as we should really :'() but for the teams in the past who have been thrown out, if Crawley don't go compared to say Scarboe I think all the chucked out clubs will know it was due to whims and political pressures rather than consistency of policies.
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Personally, I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance of a reprieve. A new sponsor, big new TV deal... the last thing the Conference needs is more clubs being thrown out for off the pitch issues. It just doesn't look good on them if, season after season, this continues to happen. As Ballers says, its about politics.
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Agree with ballers post 100%, I just wonder if some personalities may come into it.
If I was a Scarborough fan today I'd be furious if some of these charlatans get away with what they are doing.
I firmly believe that a few months back the conference commitee would have sat down and said "no-one is getting chucked out this year, no way" but then clubs have contrived to do some incredible things that make that statement hard to action.
For me, they should save the four that went down, who were pretty much all clubs that lived within their means and kick out Boston, Crawley, Halifax and Northwich/Weymouth.
Never going to happen but what a warning to these charlies that would be if the conference said "these clubs played by the rules and in the right spirit, you didn't, bye."
The whole thing stinks. What happened to 11 against 11 seeing who could get the most goals?
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Interesting to see people making accusations of corruption before a decision has even been made yet. Nothing like getting you conspiracy theories in early.
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I think Boston, Halifax and maybe Northwich will be asked to pay bonds.
I think Crawley may be required to pay their cva off in full (their recent payment had a few thousands skimmed off by the administrators).
Deadline for above 1 week so another week of waiting.
I think it'll be fun getting 2 games into the season and Boston go bust?
I've said all along I think we'll get a reprieve although I am ambivalent toward it.
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Sorry UC, are you saying that it "who you know" plays no part in the decisions of the Conference Management Board?
If would bet every penny I had that if Southport had finished 4th from bottom they would not have gone down due to Charlie Claphams influence.
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Sorry UC, are you saying that it "who you know" plays no part in the decisions of the Conference Management Board? If would bet every penny I had that if Southport had finished 4th from bottom they would not have gone down due to Charlie Claphams influence.
You're quite right Ecky.
As has been said previously, I bet a lot of us were hoping for a Southport victory on the last day of the season as a 'fall-back' scenario in case we failed to get out of the bottom 4.
I truly believe if they'd have finished 4th or 3rd bottom, one or two teams would have been saved.
As it stands now, of course, three would have to go - and that's not going to happen - so it's down to looking forward to my local match with Vauxhall at Rivacre again.
Ironically enough, I also genuinely believe that with a left back and a winger who could provide a lot of ammo we would have been OK next season!
Oh well ...
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Interesting to see people making accusations of corruption before a decision has even been made yet. Nothing like getting you conspiracy theories in early.
Please note UC that I'm referring to decisions previously taken, i.e. it was done in the past for political purposes. As I have said there isn't actually definate justification for chucking a team out this year (is there ever?).If they were to throw a team out this year I would start to say, well the warning signs have been there with thier actions in the past, can't believe Crawley have acted like this when they saw what happened to scarboro etc.
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I think there is plenty of justification to chuck a team out. Boston without a takeover cannot guarantee to complete their fixtures for the season ahead. I doubt they'd get much further than pre-season to be honest. Crawley in the past should be long gone, but at least the Majeeds could argue that they would easily complete their fixtures because they had no intention of paying any debts so they'd be no probs there.
In the cases of Halifax and Weymouth, I think they'll be sorted out in the correct manner and probably get relegated next season as a result on on-field merit alone. Unless they do a Crawley and just f**k the debts off!
Northwich have been a sham all along but connett doesn't seem to be going anywhere and the conference didnt have a problem at the last AGM so there won't be one this year.
So really it rests on a Boston takeover, and the possibility of the conference saying enough is enough to Crawley.
In 36 hours at least we'll know either way and we can just get on with looking forward to next season, whatever league we're in. I'd love a reprieve and we deserve one, but this is all becoming tiresome, I just want to get past it all!
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Bizarrely, I have to say that I'd be more confident of us being able to avoid the relegation positions in the BS National next season than I would of us getting promoted from the BS North!
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Bizarrely, I have to say that I'd be more confident of us being able to avoid the relegation positions in the BS National next season than I would of us getting promoted from the BS North!
I think there are many on here (including myself) who would wholeheartedly agree with you on that point.
Bottom line is I fear the AGM will pass quietly and with little incident (regrettably). I've got to say that whatever league we now end up in it will be good to put an end to all this speculation and just get on with preparing for the new season. I'm missing talking about matches and the playing side of things already and let's face it, that's what we would all rather be talking about.
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Takeover Done On Friday!
By Boston FeverDate: 8/6/2007
The takeover of United by Standing Alone Limited will finally be completed on Friday.
The light is finally at the end of the tunnel for Boston United with their future secured after the near completition of one of the longest takeovers in living memory.The takeover plans, which date back to late 2006, look finally to be done on Friday, ahead of the Nationwide Conference AGM in Bournemouth on Saturday.With just the i's to dot and t's to cross, chief executive Barrie Pierpoint is looking forward to attending the meeting with the takeover complete."I'm like everyone else, I'm just waiting for Standing Alone and Lavaflow to finalise things so we can push on," he told the Lincolnshire Echo."I want to go Bournemouth with the takeover having been completed."It's been very frustrating and has taken a lot longer than we would have liked."To be honest, I have not known a takeover to be so drawn out before - and it has put us a long way behind our rivals."But we're near the end now.
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They have been saying it will be done for weeks now. If I was them I'd get a shift on.
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What is wrong with the education systems in Boston and Crawley? They've both been "dotting i's and crossing t's" for weeks now and they still can't seem to manage it.
Duhhh! ???
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Today for the first time in my life I bought some lucky heather and pegs off a lovely gypsy lady.
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Hopefully you didn't buy that from the Moss Lane Car park !
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I want to be in the National next season. I've been working on disenchanted United fans at work and have got them to agree to come to a few games next season. I'd much rather they see Moss Lane with 1500 in and 500 noisey York fans on the away terrace than 15 from Vauxhall in a game where very little football is played.
That said, we were all looking forward to Stalybridge away next season for the easy train, superb ales and pleasant views so like many I am hopeful but won't be devastated if we don't stay up. We don't deserve to - we finished in a relegation zone. And to be honest, that league is becoming so corrupt I am not sure I would want us to be associated with it anymore until it becomes what it should be: a mostly part time league representing the very best of NON LEAGUE football.
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looking forward to Stalybridge away
Never thought I'd see an Alty fan type those words !! :'(
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Anyone know what time the AGM is or when we could expect to hear anything?
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Anyone know what time the AGM is or when we could expect to hear anything?
It started at 10.30. No idea when we might hear anything.