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Title: York Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 14, 2023, 12:13:57 PM
Same starting 11

York 0-2 Alty (Linney, Con-Clarke)

Good luck and safe travels
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 14, 2023, 12:27:42 PM
That would be great. I'd be surprised if there was more than a goal in it. Just hope it's in our favour! Head says one each, heart says 2-1 to the Supers 👍 🇦🇹
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 14, 2023, 12:29:39 PM
Really worried when I expect us to win! Past and current form would suggest an away win
 What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 14, 2023, 12:34:53 PM
Really worried when I expect us to win! Past and current form would suggest an away win
 What could possibly go wrong?

That's what might be termed the voice of experience! 😉
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on August 14, 2023, 12:52:32 PM
Really worried when I expect us to win! Past and current form would suggest an away win
 What could possibly go wrong?

That's what might be termed the voice of experience! 😉
😱😱😱
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 14, 2023, 01:23:02 PM
Really worried when I expect us to win! Past and current form would suggest an away win
 What could possibly go wrong?

That's what might be termed the voice of experience! 😉
😱😱😱

Don't be shocked, I could have said age!😂😂
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 14, 2023, 02:04:10 PM
Agree. Same 11 if all are fit.

Would like to see Donawa on the bench, replacing Cooper.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: that man showler on August 14, 2023, 02:04:57 PM
See we have sold out the Away travel service for tomorrow,which is
Fantastic for a Tuesday night,with that in mind I am driving to York
Tomorrow if anyone needs a lift let me Know.
Also anyone know how to obtain an away ticket and we’re the Alty fans are
Going to be accommodated?
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 14, 2023, 07:37:35 PM
The fact that we always do well there, combined with their form and ours, makes me believe we're not going to get going and fall to a 1-0 defeat. Hope I'm wrong.

Play our own stuff, same XI, and we should be OK.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on August 14, 2023, 08:06:34 PM
I am driving to York
Tomorrow if anyone needs a lift let me Know.

I would be grateful for a lift.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Is this it? on August 14, 2023, 10:09:23 PM
Going+1.  Looking forward to it.  After our first home performance and the win at Woking, I'm uncharacteristically/ridiculously optimistic.  Be great to come away with a win.....momentum breeds success.  #coyr
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 14, 2023, 10:26:45 PM
York 1- 3 Alty. Let the unbeaten run continue.
Linney, Jones (James) Amaluzor.

Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on August 14, 2023, 11:09:46 PM
I want to say away win, but that'd just be tempting fate. York 1 Supers 0.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 15, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
I want to say away win, but that'd just be tempting fate. York 1 Supers 0.

Yes. I don't think you're on your own in not wanting to jinx it! 😂😂
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 15, 2023, 12:10:18 PM
I want to say away win, but that'd just be tempting fate. York 1 Supers 0.

Yes. I don't think you're on your own in not wanting to jinx it! 😂😂

PS. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 15, 2023, 07:23:31 PM
Not really sure what we're going for with that lineup; there only seems to be two out-and-out forward players in there (Linney and Conn-Clarke).

I sincerely hope I'm made to look daft with this at full-time, but I would have thought the best approach would have been to let them worry about us.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 15, 2023, 07:26:25 PM
Not as confident now the team's announced.
I think we're going with our away formation plan B.
5-3-2 (or 3-5-2) with three centre backs and overlapping full backs.
I'd have been happier with Donowa as one of the latter but in Parky we trust!
Come on you Supers 👍 🇦🇹 🏆
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 15, 2023, 07:32:34 PM
Lack of pace.
3 CB's and 3 CM's, too defensive.
Would always have a front 3, with wingbacks.
Linney, CCC, Amaluzor
Linney, Amaluzor, Kossy
Linney, Amaluzor, Donowa
Etc
Thinking too much about tactics and the opposition.
Good enough to play our strongest team and formation . York are bang average.
Always aim to get in the lead and not chase goals late on.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 15, 2023, 07:33:49 PM
Also kills Linney's game, will be chasing long balls into the channels.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 15, 2023, 07:34:13 PM
Not really sure what we're going for with that lineup; there only seems to be two out-and-out forward players in there (Linney and Conn-Clarke).

I sincerely hope I'm made to look daft with this at full-time, but I would have thought the best approach would have been to let them worry about us.

Correct
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on August 15, 2023, 07:35:55 PM
PP must have done due diligence. York must be weak in the middle. Maybe he's hoping we'll dominate there and pass them to death!
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 15, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
Can we get back to what we know.

Amaluzor and Kossy for Roscoe and Joey Jones.

Just knew with the formation we'd be chasing this game.

They are average.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on August 15, 2023, 08:49:17 PM
Can we get back to what we know.

Amaluzor and Kossy for Roscoe and Joey Jones.

Just knew with the formation we'd be chasing this game.

They are average.

This exactly… Jo Jones looks way off the pace and Roscoe is costing us big time! Looks nervous!
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on August 15, 2023, 08:57:21 PM
Crap
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 15, 2023, 09:10:41 PM
We're losing to a really average team. Play our best XI and we beat them.

I didn't like the look of the Joey Jones signing, and nothing has changed that.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on August 15, 2023, 09:12:08 PM
york are a goal up and still attacking. haven't they read the script?
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 15, 2023, 09:16:30 PM
This has got 2-2 written all over it (in pencil ✏) 😉
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 15, 2023, 09:30:39 PM
This has got 2-2 written all over it (in pencil ✏) 😉

That's the way lads! 🇦🇹✏️👍
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on August 15, 2023, 09:49:56 PM
cut out the stupid mistakes and we win that
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 15, 2023, 09:51:33 PM
If we didn't set up like we did and had to chase the game, as predicted, we would have won this comfortably.
Osborne had a great game.
Let's get back to our strongest team and formation. We need to brave every game.
3 CBs and 3 CMs first half was far too defensive. All over the shop at times.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 15, 2023, 09:53:05 PM
We're losing to a really average team. Play our best XI and we beat them.

I didn't like the look of the Joey Jones signing, and nothing has changed that.

I was also concerned about Joey Jones, well off the pace.
Maybe Wilson need a chance.
Osborne played really well but we are a CM and possibly another wide player short IMO.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 15, 2023, 09:55:42 PM
I would have taken the draw at half-time to keep the unbeaten record going - but we absolutely bossed them as soon as we went back to our usual system.

Roscoe (who missed a sitter of a header) and Joey Jones both look like absolute carthorses - I don't know why Baines was the one to make way.

Dior Angus was pretty dreadful when he came on - couldn't stay onside and thrashed wildly at anything that did come his way.

Strange to hear the commentary team say Linney and Conn-Clarke had good games - I guess we know they're both capable of much better, not much came off for them.

Marriott wasn't his usual influential self but Osborne played really well I thought - looked much more confident and assured, picked some great passes out too.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on August 15, 2023, 10:04:02 PM
One tiny pick at Osbourne in what has been a night-and-day improvement this season is his speed releasing the ball.

Linney was a terrier until he went off, if he had been given one of the chances Angus had we'd have won.

I can't help but think the Angus, Joey Jones, and Roscoe being off the pace is to do with them all missing pre-season. Players don't come here as fit as they leave us it seems.

Gutted we didn't win but I bet York feel the same
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on August 15, 2023, 10:06:28 PM
Young Linney needs to make decisions quicker, we should have been one up but he keeps taking an unnecessary extra touch when in with a scoring chance, Joey  Jones seemed well off the pace, Angus didn’t do a lot when he came on, I understood the decision to give Matty a rest he has had a serious injury and needs handling with care. Amaluzor should have started. A deserved point in the end which was really a fair result.. We need to be at it for Borehamwood and Chesterfield.

Excellent turn out by the Alty faithful.

A decent start to the campaign which is a good sign
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Leon on August 15, 2023, 10:07:00 PM
I think the idea of us having two different systems we use regularly is good but we don’t have the personnel to make 3-5-2 work at the moment. Neither Banks or Eddy Jones offers any kind of attacking threat as wingbacks. The three in midfield tonight are too same-y. No creativity and nobody who really looks to get beyond the front players. And when you play three CBs, the two wide ones need to be able to step into midfield and make play. James Jones can do that but Baines can’t. He’s good in a back four but not in a five.

Happy with a point in the end.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on August 15, 2023, 10:21:27 PM
Really sharp performance at times tonight, our first goal especially was sublime. Contrary to some views on here I thought Conn-Clarke was excellent. Seemed to have time on the ball every time he was in possession, pulled strings and created dangerous opportunities consistently. Linney too, aside from his first effort, looked sharp, was weaving in and out of the York defence and was unlucky not to score himself. Credit again too to Ethan Ross for another superb save at the end.

York looked very dangerous going forward at times and made us look vulnerable under pressure in some situations but I thought we had them in midfield and in the final third as well.

Overall, a really decent point against a York side that are bound to get their act together sooner or later. Bonus that we've kept the unbeaten record and Kosylo and Amaluzor's legs have been conserved for the weekend. Roll on Borehamwood.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on August 16, 2023, 01:39:06 AM
I would have taken the draw at half-time to keep the unbeaten record going - but we absolutely bossed them as soon as we went back to our usual system.

Roscoe (who missed a sitter of a header) and Joey Jones both look like absolute carthorses - I don't know why Baines was the one to make way.

Dior Angus was pretty dreadful when he came on - couldn't stay onside and thrashed wildly at anything that did come his way.

Strange to hear the commentary team say Linney and Conn-Clarke had good games - I guess we know they're both capable of much better, not much came off for them.

Marriott wasn't his usual influential self but Osborne played really well I thought - looked much more confident and assured, picked some great passes out too.

Onwards and upwards.



For my money, that's a pretty accurate synopsis of the game.

Ultimately, I'm actually somewhat disappointed that we haven't managed to record yet another victory in York, as I thought that we created the better chances.

Linney should have put us 1-0 up inside the opening three minutes, only for him to emulate AC/DC and take a touch too much.

Then there were those two late golden opportunities: CCC blazing over the bar from close range when you fully expected him to score his second goal of the night and Roscoe's inexplicable misdirected free header from that Eddy Jones corner.

I'd still love to see a creative (and goalscoring) central midfielder recruited, but I suspect that they are currently even harder to find than Nadine Dorries.
 
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on August 16, 2023, 06:18:25 AM
Watched the game on the stream last night, thoroughly enjoyed what was an end-to-end enthralling game, perfect for any watching neutrals. I basically agreed with all the above. Chris Conn-Clarke was inventive, Matty Kosylo made a difference and his running after he came on was a nightmare for York's defenders. We really missed him last season, and it is like having a new player again. He is a nice fella too, the girls and I have spoken to him on a few occasions and he always has time for you. Overall it was a good advert for the National League, York made me nervous going forward, they have improved over last season and like us, they will be a top half team. The other players who came in today need a little more game time, but we have good strength in depth and I like Regan Linney too. He had their defence at 6's and 7's last night. Fair result for both teams and I notice we are being taken more seriously this season, which is good to see.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on August 16, 2023, 08:22:28 AM
I would have taken the draw at half-time to keep the unbeaten record going - but we absolutely bossed them as soon as we went back to our usual system.

Roscoe (who missed a sitter of a header) and Joey Jones both look like absolute carthorses - I don't know why Baines was the one to make way.

Dior Angus was pretty dreadful when he came on - couldn't stay onside and thrashed wildly at anything that did come his way.

Strange to hear the commentary team say Linney and Conn-Clarke had good games - I guess we know they're both capable of much better, not much came off for them.

Marriott wasn't his usual influential self but Osborne played really well I thought - looked much more confident and assured, picked some great passes out too.

Onwards and upwards.



For my money, that's a pretty accurate synopsis of the game.

Ultimately, I'm actually somewhat disappointed that we haven't managed to record yet another victory in York, as I thought that we created the better chances.

Linney should have put us 1-0 up inside the opening three minutes, only for him to emulate AC/DC and take a touch too much.

Then there were those two late golden opportunities: CCC blazing over the bar from close range when you fully expected him to score his second goal of the night and Roscoe's inexplicable misdirected free header from that Eddy Jones corner.

I'd still love to see a creative (and goalscoring) central midfielder recruited, but I suspect that they are currently even harder to find than Nadine Dorries.

Agreed. We could be sat here with 9/9, fine margins. For all the money lavished on that York team over the summer they weren’t overly impressive. Dangerous & pacey up top but not the control or flow in their football that we have. Still I’d have taken 4/6 from Woking & York away & now on to another big test in Boreham Wood.

Also a note on our support, to take over 200 to a midweek game 2hrs away is really impressive & we were very vocal too. Hopefully it will continue to grow throughout the season. 3-400 at Fylde perhaps. To end on a curmudgeonly note, Brew York a main club sponsor & their ads plastered all over the ground & just Amstel, John Smiths or cider in the away end. Save us a few bottles next year please.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on August 16, 2023, 12:08:47 PM
I know that it is early days yet, but lots of positives from Alty again last night and I continue to retain a good vibe.

I agree that we were vulnerable to and soon fell victim of their pre-industrial tactics. There was nothing inventive about their play which consisted basically of:-

1.  Counter attack quickly along the flanks missing out the midfield.
2.  Cut inside and cross, or
3.  Cross it at the byline
4.  Put lots of spin on the ball causing it to hang in the air or make an unpredictable descent.
5.  Cram the area in front of goal with as many players as can be spared.
6.  When the ball cuts loose play pinball and hope that it goes in.
7.  Use the same method for corners and set pieces.

In contrast we were more inventive with our movement towards goal and outfield play showing some nice touches leading to clear-cut chances that on another day would have found the back of the net. I thought that we might have stolen it at the end, however, I am satisfied that on balance that a draw was a fair result.

Fantastic support on view and my thanks go to the fellow Alty supporter who gave me a lift to the game.
Title: Re: York Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on August 16, 2023, 05:01:26 PM
Good to hear the many positives from last night and i agree 5 from 9 is a very decent start . The support sounded fantastic on RR too , brilliant effort 👏  The usual raft of surprise early season results in the NL and i do believe that this season that as few as 65 points might hit the play off mark . Other than Chesterfield i don't see anyone else as stand outs to challenge so we could be well in the mix .l do believe that we need to play our strongest and best balanced 11where possible rather than the rotational option to maintain that challenge though.