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Title: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 30, 2023, 09:45:37 AM
Assume Kosylo and Wilson will be unavailable.

                   Ross

Banks. Jones/Roscoe/Banks* Jones

       Osbourne.  Marriott

  Amaluzor   Con-Clarke.   Linney

                       Angus

*perm 2 from 3


Alty 3-1 Bromley (Angus x 2, Amaluzor)
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on August 30, 2023, 02:17:01 PM
Assume Kosylo and Wilson will be unavailable.

                   Ross

Banks. Jones/Roscoe/Banks* Jones

       Osbourne.  Marriott

  Amaluzor   Con-Clarke.   Linney

                       Angus

*perm 2 from 3


Alty 3-1 Bromley (Angus x 2, Amaluzor)

I assume that's Baines in the central triumvirate.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 30, 2023, 02:29:41 PM
If we can beat this lot, who always seem to have the down on us, it will set us up nicely for the Barnet game.🤞🇦🇹
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on August 30, 2023, 03:55:30 PM
Assume Kosylo and Wilson will be unavailable.

                   Ross

Banks. Jones/Roscoe/Banks* Jones

       Osbourne.  Marriott

  Amaluzor   Con-Clarke.   Linney

                       Angus

*perm 2 from 3


Alty 3-1 Bromley (Angus x 2, Amaluzor)

Agree with this. Kossy will still be out.
Hopefully Donawa can make the bench.
He will start Roscoe to man mark Cheek.
Maybe rest the Captain for a game and start Baines.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 30, 2023, 04:04:18 PM
That would be a good idea. If we're rotating, JJ is due a rest. Would be interesting to see how Roscoe and Baines get on in a back four.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 30, 2023, 04:21:38 PM
That would be a good idea. If we're rotating, JJ is due a rest. Would be interesting to see how Roscoe and Baines get on in a back four.

Call me old school, however the biggest anxiety for me with starting Roscoe and Baines is the fact that they're both lefties.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 30, 2023, 05:10:25 PM
Assume Kosylo and Wilson will be unavailable.

                   Ross

Banks. Jones/Roscoe/Banks* Jones

       Osbourne.  Marriott

  Amaluzor   Con-Clarke.   Linney

                       Angus

*perm 2 from 3


Alty 3-1 Bromley (Angus x 2, Amaluzor)

Agree with this. Kossy will still be out.
Hopefully Donawa can make the bench.
He will start Roscoe to man mark Cheek.
Maybe rest the Captain for a game and start Baines.
Think Crankshaw may come in on wing now he is an Alty player. Good Dilemma to have..
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on August 30, 2023, 05:36:49 PM
Assume Kosylo and Wilson will be unavailable.

                   Ross

Banks. Jones/Roscoe/Banks* Jones

       Osbourne.  Marriott

  Amaluzor   Con-Clarke.   Linney

                       Angus

*perm 2 from 3


Alty 3-1 Bromley (Angus x 2, Amaluzor)

Agree with this. Kossy will still be out.
Hopefully Donawa can make the bench.
He will start Roscoe to man mark Cheek.
Maybe rest the Captain for a game and start Baines.
Think Crankshaw may come in on wing now he is an Alty player. Good Dilemma to have..

I hope it signals a return to 4231 as we have the personnel to make it work - one of Ollie Crankshaw, Justin, Cricky, Regan and Dior has to miss out - and that's before we get Matty and Justin Donawa back into the fold too. The biggest dilemma might well be whether to play one of Regan or Dior, given they've worked well in partnership together.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 30, 2023, 05:46:05 PM
Think Crankshhaw will probably come off the bench to start with won't he?
Subsequently it's got to be him and Amaluzor out wide with CCC at number ten hasn't it?
Number nine? Anyone's guess!
What fantastic problems to be faced with! 😉
Come on you Super Robins 👍
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on August 30, 2023, 05:59:20 PM
I don't care who PP plays up front tbh; we are spoilt for choice!

Defensively, I've no idea which combination works best - I just hope someone does! Maybe the plan is to be at least two goals ahead by added time?
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 30, 2023, 08:12:59 PM
Maybe the plan is to be at least two goals ahead by added time?

That certainly works for me! 😂
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on August 30, 2023, 08:54:18 PM
Think Crankshhaw will probably come off the bench to start with won't he?
Subsequently it's got to be him and Amaluzor out wide with CCC at number ten hasn't it?
Number nine? Anyone's guess!
What fantastic problems to be faced with! 😉
Come on you Super Robins 👍
Responses to points below

Nah throw him in.
Absolutely.
Doesn't matter, both are mint.
Abso-freakinglutely.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on August 30, 2023, 09:01:44 PM
😂😂🇦🇹🏆
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 01, 2023, 11:26:15 AM
I fancy us to the the momentum going, keep a grip of Cheek and play to our strengths and let’s add another 3 points to our very good start to the campaign.

Alty 3-1 Bromley

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 01, 2023, 02:07:49 PM
That would be a good idea. If we're rotating, JJ is due a rest. Would be interesting to see how Roscoe and Baines get on in a back four.

Unless we are going 3 at the back, it’s deffo time to give JJ a rest. Played every minute so far and has been at fault for a few of the oppositions goals. I hope we don’t go to a 3 and start both Roscoe and Baines in a 4 with Crankshaw straight in on the right wing and JA on the left. Chris sitting just behind Regan, the rest pick themselves. I believe that we will blow a lot of teams away with this starting 11 and a 4/2/3/1 formation. PP needs to stop worrying about the opposition and play to our strengths!

Still keep pinching myself… millions invested, in the playoffs and talking about a new ground simply solidifies the improvement both on and off the pitch. COYR 
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 01, 2023, 02:32:09 PM
I would 100% start Crankshaw.

Impressed by Angus, but I think Linney is next level for us. He is a constant threat, covers so much ground and harasses defenders more than Angus.

Noticed Crankshaw is played more as a RW. Maybe have Amaluzor on the left, he would be able to skin defenders more easily on the outside.

Give the Captain a rest.

                 Ross

Banks      Roscoe Baines      Jones

       Osbourne.  Marriott

 Crankshaw  Con-Clarke   Amaluzor

                      Linney
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 01, 2023, 02:45:41 PM
That's the team I'd pick for sure. With Marriot captain (although Baines has a shout despite Marriot being deputy).
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 01, 2023, 02:48:58 PM
Not sure how match fit Cranshaw will be, but if we do start him with linney up top, Angus will have been very hard done to.

Be interesting to see a goals/per minuet list
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 01, 2023, 02:57:55 PM
I suspect crankshaw left and amazulor right at least to start
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on September 01, 2023, 03:54:22 PM
Never beaten Bromley at JDS apperently. Well it's about time.
By all means give them respect but show them no mercy. Alty 3-1.
Clean sheet is too far fetched.


Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 01, 2023, 04:17:00 PM
Clean sheet is too far fetched.

Yes. Let's not be ridiculous! 😏😊
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Seth on September 01, 2023, 04:53:13 PM
Not sure how match fit Cranshaw will be, but if we do start him with linney up top, Angus will have been very hard done to.

Be interesting to see a goals/per minuet list

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/altrincham/top-scorers
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 01, 2023, 08:01:23 PM
Not sure how match fit Cranshaw will be, but if we do start him with linney up top, Angus will have been very hard done to.

Be interesting to see a goals/per minuet list

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/altrincham/top-scorers

Wow, thanks .

No assists for any one!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 01, 2023, 09:04:32 PM
Linney has had several assists this season.

Not just about goals, being number 9 in this team, is so much more.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 01, 2023, 09:17:18 PM
The dilemma the manager now has is that Regan and Dior have built up a decent partnership - both obviously scored but also assisted each other on Monday.

I think Justin might be the one that stays on the bench - but I'm glad I'm not the one picking the team because I actually don't know who I'd pick...
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Seth on September 01, 2023, 09:53:51 PM
The dilemma the manager now has is that Regan and Dior have built up a decent partnership - both obviously scored but also assisted each other on Monday.

I think Justin might be the one that stays on the bench - but I'm glad I'm not the one picking the team because I actually don't know who I'd pick...

Justin is the best at creating chances though, I don't mind who is benched between Angus or Linney because both of them are class finishers
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Toff Apple on September 02, 2023, 07:23:34 AM
If its 1 up front I'd say Linney, we seem to do a lot of the hard work first half, pushing on more second half
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on September 02, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Alty..... 4    Bromley..... 1

Att. 1,924
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 02, 2023, 12:31:54 PM
Ukrainian Alty, I would agree with all of that actually!!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 02, 2023, 12:37:47 PM
Any win will do for me!
With a flowing impressive performance from the Supers of course.
👍🇦🇹
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 02, 2023, 05:13:23 PM
Very slow today.
A lot of passes around the edge of the box and no-one in the box.
Justin really needs to carry the ball, would be better on the left and skin people on the outside and get to the byline or into the box.
I would be dropping Jones and giving Baines a game.
Aswell as Osborne has started the season, his corners remain sh*t, struggles to beat the first man.
Really missed Linney, the runs he doesn't into the channel free's up the wide players.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on September 02, 2023, 05:24:22 PM
Much too predictable and pedestrian today. Bromley could read the approach play like a book. Hardly surprising the goal came from something different. There were chances though. Only needed one of them to be nicked past the keeper to have changed it altogether.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on September 02, 2023, 05:47:20 PM
Overall we had more than enough chances to equalise, here keeper made some decent saves. Whereas I think they had 2 shots on goal and scored 2. Referee was very poor some of the decisions were appalling.

We missed Linney and was bemused when Dior was substituted as we lost those runs. CCC was poor today and should have been subbed. Not sure Ethan is much of an improvement over Ollie tbh.

 
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 02, 2023, 06:21:50 PM
Agree with most of the above, but if you think Ross is no better than Byrne you need a new hobby
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 02, 2023, 07:02:46 PM
Ross is SO much the better keeper.
My thoughts on the game?
Ref utterly appalling and consistently favoured the away side.
The incessant passing around at the back was taken to new levels and, at times, was heart stopping. (Mrs S reached new levels of exasperation!)
They obviously scouted us thoroughly and had us taped. And we didn't seem to be able to change things enough.
Very professional time wasting, free kick winners who did it successfully and well.
The captain needs a rest as ON has already said.
I'm having a single malt tonight rather than a red wine.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 02, 2023, 07:02:49 PM
Lacklustre performance against a classic Bromley outfit who were patient and waited until they sensed blood... which was when the tippy tappy got absolutely ridiculous.

I have to say Isaac Marriott doesn't seem to be his usual influential self; I wasm't sure whether it was just because Elliott has impressed by comparison, but only one of them seems to be showing for the ball and it certainly isn't Isaac.

We hugely missed Regan and he needs to start whenever he's available - I hope we don't get into a situation where Cricky plays because we paid a lot of money for him, because I agree he should have beem hooked today, he wasn't really at the races all afternoon.

Regarding the goalkeeper, I take the middle ground on the matter... he's looked decent but he's not passed his audition yet. He has every chance to do so, of course - and I think he will.

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on September 02, 2023, 07:32:21 PM
Very slow and too much sideways and backwards passing. Bromley were well organised and we had no idea of how to break them down.

Ethan Ross is a million times the goalkeeper of Ollie Byrne.

Roscoe and CCC were very poor today. James Jones looks like he needs a rest and we missed Linney. Justin is our best player at the moment.

That corner routine was pretty special which is on a very short list of positives from todays game.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 02, 2023, 07:42:38 PM
It's all very well talking about substitutions, but Matty Kosylo was the only sub we had today who has the capability to change a game. But he didn't today.

Ollie Crankshaw seemed totally unsure of his role. He drifted about all over the pitch to no great effect, and that's probably why he received limited service from his colleagues.

We can have no complaints over losing our unbeaten record because we simply weren't good enough.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 02, 2023, 08:03:05 PM

Lacklustre performance against a classic Bromley outfit who were patient and waited until they sensed blood... which was when the tippy tappy got absolutely ridiculous.

I have to say Isaac Marriott doesn't seem to be his usual influential self; I wasm't sure whether it was just because Elliott has impressed by comparison, but only one of them seems to be showing for the ball and it certainly isn't Isaac.

We hugely missed Regan and he needs to start whenever he's available - I hope we don't get into a situation where Cricky plays because we paid a lot of money for him, because I agree he should have beem hooked today, he wasn't really at the races all afternoon.

Regarding the goalkeeper, I take the middle ground on the matter... he's looked decent but he's not passed his audition yet. He has every chance to do so, of course - and I think he will.



Agree with the aforementioned synopsis.

That second-half performance was largely ponderous and laboured.

I don't think that either of our full-backs offer much as an attacking force. Too many times, they simply double back and then play the easy ball back to one of our central defenders.

Oh for a John Davison, Joel Senior or Shaun Densmore!

Woefully slapdash overplaying by Alty in the build-up to their winning goal. Marriott just hasn't quite got going this season to date, in my eyes.

Squad still looks far too shallow and short of options.

A dispiriting day.

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on September 02, 2023, 08:38:45 PM
I've had to hold back. I thought the first half we were a different class. Massive domination and had them on their heels, OK they did score first but never looked like winning. Second half was a different story, I was bored for a lot of it. Looking at my watch to see how long I had to endure what we were producing. No one wanted to see what they were made of. Eight minutes of extra time and we were still passing t around at the back until the last two minutes.

Forget the new ground/ redeveloping the existing ground. We won't need it.
 
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on September 02, 2023, 08:52:40 PM
according to a report i heard on talksport today long ball is coming back in to fashion. bring it on!
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 02, 2023, 08:58:05 PM
CCC didn’t turn up today, I would have Hooked CCC for Kossy instead of Angus, we are in need of a couple of fullbacks who can look up and run into space instead of just passing square balls  along the back line far too often. If a midfielder has the ball then the full backs  should be looking for the ball and push up a bit

The second goal for them came about due to us pissing about instead of getting it forward.

Teams this season have sussed us out especially when we dilly dally along the back line then they are ready to pounce.

I agree about our captain needing a break, personally I prefer Cooper to him and I’m amazed that Baines isn’t a regular.

We had a reality check today so we need to dust ourselves down and get set for a difficult trip to Barnet next  week.

As for ref. Poor 3/10
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 02, 2023, 09:41:05 PM
Very generous marks for the ref there DT! 😉
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 02, 2023, 09:43:09 PM

Lacklustre performance against a classic Bromley outfit who were patient and waited until they sensed blood... which was when the tippy tappy got absolutely ridiculous.

I have to say Isaac Marriott doesn't seem to be his usual influential self; I wasm't sure whether it was just because Elliott has impressed by comparison, but only one of them seems to be showing for the ball and it certainly isn't Isaac.

We hugely missed Regan and he needs to start whenever he's available - I hope we don't get into a situation where Cricky plays because we paid a lot of money for him, because I agree he should have beem hooked today, he wasn't really at the races all afternoon.

Regarding the goalkeeper, I take the middle ground on the matter... he's looked decent but he's not passed his audition yet. He has every chance to do so, of course - and I think he will.



Agree with the aforementioned synopsis.

That second-half performance was largely ponderous and laboured.

I don't think that either of our full-backs offer much as an attacking force. Too many times, they simply double back and then play the easy ball back to one of our central defenders.

Oh for a John Davison, Joel Senior or Shaun Densmore!

Woefully slapdash overplaying by Alty in the build-up to their winning goal. Marriott just hasn't quite got going this season to date, in my eyes.

Squad still looks far too shallow and short of options.

A dispiriting day.

On the way home I was actually trying to recall if I have seen Banks overlap the winger yet. He set CCC up at York but needs to overlap.

Eddie gets in great positions and needs to demand the ball more.

Amaluzor needs to run at the defenders more, take them on, he is bloody rapid.

Still missing that magic CM.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 02, 2023, 10:47:03 PM
CCC didn’t turn up today, I would have Hooked CCC for Kossy instead of Angus, we are in need of a couple of fullbacks who can look up and run into space instead of just passing square balls  along the back line far too often. If a midfielder has the ball then the full backs  should be looking for the ball and push up a bit

The second goal for them came about due to us pissing about instead of getting it forward.

Teams this season have sussed us out especially when we dilly dally along the back line then they are ready to pounce.

I agree about our captain needing a break, personally I prefer Cooper to him and I’m amazed that Baines isn’t a regular.

We had a reality check today so we need to dust ourselves down and get set for a difficult trip to Barnet next  week.

As for ref. Poor 3/10

Poor reffing and a poor 2nd half.Thought we did well in the first half. Just silly-silly ball round the back as mentioned by many others. Thought both el capitano and Roscoe needed to be rested and it it showed today. Agree with the Baines comment and feel that he is our best defender and has to be first name down. Hope this is not another season of playing people due to money paid for them or because they are captain. CCC should be benched on last few performances.

P.S… was buzzin in the fanzone
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on September 03, 2023, 06:59:30 AM
The season we manage to beat both Boreham Wood & Bromley at home we’ll get promoted…one day.

Tough assignments coming up now with two of the top four in our next 3 matches with the other at Wealdstone who we still haven’t managed to score a goal at their ground since they came back up. Think by the Maidenhead game we’ll have a good idea of how the season will pan out (somewhere slightly lower than our current position IMO).
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 03, 2023, 10:09:27 AM
If we can end up winning as many as we lose, that'll be fine by me this year and see us finish top half for the first time in a long while.
Having said that however, we could finish higher if we learn from the last few games and make a couple of key signings (as has been said elsewhere).
As has also been said, by the end of the month we'll have a much clearer picture one way or the other. 🤞
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on September 03, 2023, 08:45:44 PM
Agree with most of the above, but if you think Ross is no better than Byrne you need a new hobby
Ross is better than Ollie for sure, but feel we can do better. As with Onana today for utd, third goal, Ross positioning for 2nd goal was poor, he froze when should come and close the angle. Nit picking maybe but we need to improve and also back 4.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 04, 2023, 09:08:10 AM
Every time a high ball from a set piece comes into our box my heart is in my mouth. It's not a lack of height, and I'm not entirely sure why we're so vulnerable.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyRobin on September 04, 2023, 11:11:52 AM
Every time a high ball from a set piece comes into our box my heart is in my mouth. It's not a lack of height, and I'm not entirely sure why we're so vulnerable.

I think it’s a lack of heart not height. If I was in the trenches I’d want Maddox and Talbot, Timmons and Ellender, France and Reid, Bailey and Owens along side me not Jones and Roscoe.

PP wants his defenders to be good footballers rather than good defenders and imo he’s wrong. The back 5 are there to stop the other team scoring the front 6 are for playing football
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 04, 2023, 11:23:05 AM
Our defenders need to let the opposition strikers know they are there from the off, with some firm but fair tackles, also if PP insists on keep picking James Jones then he needs to be in the centre of defence not out on the flanks, wingers skin him far too often.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 04, 2023, 12:38:37 PM
We really need to make a decision on what our first choice centre back pairing is and stick with it to build understanding.
Back four instead of three centre backs focused on too.
For me, Baines should be a must.
Also, our captain needs taking out of the firing line for a break.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on September 04, 2023, 03:32:23 PM
Absolutely agree that we need to make a choice re. first choice centre backs. For me it's Baines and Jones but given they had a torrid time last season, have we actually improved in this department.

Laughing my head off that anyone thinks Ross is no better than Ollie.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on September 04, 2023, 05:03:45 PM
Alty..... 4    Bromley..... 1

Att. 1,924

Actual attendance was 1,921 and was just 3 out.  A great guess I thought.

Actual goals scored by Alty was also just 3 out and was a bloody awful guess!

Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on September 05, 2023, 09:55:38 PM
Can't understand why Baines doesm't get a game. Maybe his face doesn't fit
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 05, 2023, 10:14:20 PM
Can't understand why Baines doesm't get a game. Maybe his face doesn't fit

It's a puzzle to me. I've always thought he was the most dependable and solid of our centre backs. Especially in a back four. Voluble too unlike some of the others. A leader.
Title: Re: Bromley Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 06, 2023, 09:50:42 AM
Baines 100% has to start every game, whether it be a 3/5/4 whatever. He is our best defender. I’m guessing he may be slightly injured. I’m sure PP would be playing him otherwise?