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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Kick in vs Throw in
« on: June 13, 2022, 10:47:19 PM »
Google has started to work for me and it was indeed the Isthmian League in 1994-95 as well as certain overseas leagues.  Here's Horsham's take on it; it doesn't seem to have been a good idea, as mentioned above.

https://www.horshamfc.co.uk/the-kick-in/

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Kick in vs Throw in
« on: June 13, 2022, 08:46:58 PM »
I see a suggestion has been out forward to trial kick ins, instead of a throw.

I am 100% that 20/25 years ago the northern premier league trialled this in a league cup competition.

Can anybody confirm that please? There's no better place to go for this kind of info.

Thanks everyone.

I can remember a league doing that, but I am not sure which one it was; the Isthmian League comes to mind, but memory and a Google search both fail me.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Parky is 1/4* for the Notts County job
« on: June 09, 2022, 10:29:01 PM »
Great news and rather unexpected, but it does Phil great credit, as well as the club who stuck by him during that  sticky patch. I imagine, with continued progress, he will leave upwards eventually, but right now, with the team going full-time as part of his project, was not the time.

Bit of a bad day for Notts County with them also losing Kyle Wootton to Stockport County.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Obscure Ticks
« on: June 08, 2022, 12:55:54 PM »
PSF away at Alton Royale in the early 90s. Never heard of them before or after, and no idea why we played them. It was somewhere around Birmingham I recall.

I was going to mention that one. The club were actually called Olton Royale, and they were one of the leading Sunday clubs around Birmingham. The link was that their manager lived next door to Jeff Wealands when the latter played for Birmingham City. They kept in touch when he moved north, and Olton challenged to us a game.  I am pretty sure we won, but can't remember the score (possibly 4-1?).

Although Olton is in Solihull, the club played some distance away at Baytree Farm, in the countryside south of Birmingham at Hockley Heath where they shared with West Heath United. It was a proper ground with  a stand, but was as rural as its name indicates, and am sure I can remember a playing have to climb over a wall to rescue the ball from a farmyard after a wayward shot!

Olton Royale later switched to Saturday football, joining the Midland Combination, where they reached as high as the Premier Division  (North West Counties Div 2 equivalent at the time, I think) before disappearing in 1996.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: What was everyone's worse ever defeat?
« on: June 07, 2022, 10:44:51 PM »
Great thread this . I concur with all of the above and in particular the South Liverpool debacle inspired by Albie Nieman and Eric Shreeve , and yes we were lucky it was only 0-6 !  Others that immidietely spring to mind include honourless ' upsets' by he likes of the mighty Sandbach Ramblers , Pwllheli & District , Winsford Utd amd Cammell Laird in various cups .

Yes, that Pwllheli one!
I've often wondered how they came to be in the FA trophy when they never played in an English league? Nantlle Vale, who I think they beat in the previous round, too. Freddie Pye managed NV in the sixties too before he came to us (not directly before) didn't he?

There used to be a reciprocal arrangement where a number of clubs (sixteen, maybe, though I might not have that number right) from Wales and England were able to compete in each others' cups, even though they played in domestic Welsh or English football. Wales didn't have an FA Trophy equivalent so a few clubs from the Welsh League (North) were allowed to take part  in that, rather than the FA Amateur Cup or Vase. The clubs weren't always near the border either. Besides the likes of Pwllheli and District and Nantlle Vale on  one side, I can remember Stourbridge and Kidderminster Harriers in the Welsh Cup.

These defeats bring back some traumatic memories. Considering the way the match went and the outcome from the result, I think Eastbourne Borough was the worst. I can still see the ball going between Craig Dootson's legs.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Dibble ????
« on: June 06, 2022, 10:08:12 PM »
It's on the Wrexham forum.

PS. They've even got a Bangor on Dee Dragon! (although I'm sure he's not as good a guy as our own Bangor on Dee Robin!) 😉

My drinking buddy, hence all the Alty stuff.

Also my grandmother's home village, keeping this all in the family.

As for Dibble, I go with One Foot in the Grave. We could do better, but could also do worse.  He is well acquainted with the National League, at least.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Yusifu Ceesay signs.......
« on: May 26, 2022, 11:09:04 PM »
I liked him and his unorthodox style, although I can't see him featuring regularly in the current side. I assume Kidderminster have  remained full-time for next season, so he is back in full-time football which was one of his aims.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Actual Signed Players
« on: May 25, 2022, 10:49:53 PM »
Ryan Forde is the lad we signed up from the academy right? Wonder if he's pencilled in for the future? Didn't our reserve keeper go to a league club not so long back?
The youth keeper went to Salford. Not heard anything about his progress since then.

That's Joel Torrance. He has  appeared on the bench for the first team at Salford City several times, without actually making an appearance, but he has turned out for Colne on loan, just as Ryan Forde has done, by coincidence.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: NLN
« on: May 22, 2022, 10:42:24 PM »
There was this piece in the Guardian about them recently. I am not sure quite how accurate it is, but I do look forward to going to Dorking next season, as it does look like a very nice town to visit, and they have certainly shot up the leagues in recent years, aided by Dorking FC's fall, however well funded they are.

PS How are we talking about Dorking Wanderers in a National League North thread?!



https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/11/real-life-championship-manager-rise-dorking-wanderers

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: NLN
« on: May 22, 2022, 09:23:44 PM »
Dorking up too. Not quite the same appeal as York but congratulations to them as well. A new ground to visit, Meadowbank.

A popular win given that nobody seems to like Ebbsfleet.

Part-time too, will be interesting to see what they do.
They might start singing “part time and we’re proud of it” to us and “Do you practice that all week?” 😂😂😂

We could still sing "We've been once, twice, three times to Wembley, and you've won the Surrey cup"!

You may have to work on the lyrics, Hugh, as it doesn't scan very well.

However, you have hit on something as their owner-chairman, Marc White,is also their manager, so there are certain similarities to Droylsden, although I think Marc White (who says he has other backers putting money into the club) may have more charm and money than Dave Pace.

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I go back to 74/75 and can't properly remember Tony Broadhead playing for us, but do remember him returning as a Bangor City player a season or two later and getting more abuse than any other opposition player I had seen to that point.

I assume he went with Roy Rees to Bangor, but did he leave with particular bad feeling?

Didn't realise you were such a late starter 😂😂
As far as I recall, there was no reason for the bad feelings generally it was usually when there was a m*cc or a v*cs that sparks started to fly.

I was nine for my first match which was not too late if I say so myself. :) A year or two later, though, it was surprising at my then young age and still sticks in the mind to see a player getting abuse and gesturing at the crowd.

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I go back to 74/75 and can't properly remember Tony Broadhead playing for us, but do remember him returning as a Bangor City player a season or two later and getting more abuse than any other opposition player I had seen to that point.

I assume he went with Roy Rees to Bangor, but did he leave with particular bad feeling?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: NLN
« on: May 21, 2022, 09:56:06 PM »
Will they have to do ground works?
3000 capacity with just over 500 seats (according to Wikipedia) is below requirements isn't it?

(and another plastic pitch which I realise is okay).

I believe it's quite a limited ground in its current state. One side and one end are just open and flat, while there are small covers behind the goal and adjacent to the main stand. They are very well funded, but have spent most of the money on the team, it seems.
I guess they would be okay to come up, as Guiseley were a few years ago, but may have to do some work before the end of the season; as I say, though, money doesn't seem to be a problem.

At least, the ground is in the town centre, rather than stuck out on some distant industrial estate.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: current rivals
« on: May 15, 2022, 11:42:45 PM »
Just to add to that, even in 1979-80, when we won the inaugural Alliance Premier League, Mossley won 5-1 at Moss Lane in the Trophy.
Their form suddenly collapsed when, after several years of finishing 1st or 2nd, they were 22nd in 1983-84, and have never been the same since.
Did the supporters' coach get its windows put in at Mossley once?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Yeovil Match Thread..
« on: May 12, 2022, 10:29:52 PM »
Well, yes, given the manager's comments, I am sure we will see all the departing long-term players play a part in the game, subject to fitness, even if it's only a run of a few minutes as a substitute.
The Bromley match shows they are quite capable of getting a result, although I don't see that as the main point in the circumstances..

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