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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Ledbury Robin on November 25, 2009, 06:58:45 PM
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I was talking to a kidderminster supporting friend of mine about both our seasons,with both clubs doing pretty well so far.He mentioned that clubs wanting to gain entry to the football league at the end of the season have to apply to enter.I didnt realise clubs still had to apply,but he says that the deadline for applying is next week.This may be a little premature, and only a pipedream at the moment,but does anyone know if Alty have applied to join the football league? Im presuming we will have done.There is a deposit or bond of about £900 required apparently.But if you dont apply by next week, then you cannot take part in the playoffs,even if you finish in the top 5.Can someone clarify if this is the case, and wether or not the club has applied? Even one season in the footballl league as a part time side would be a dream for all supporters,and set the club up financially even if in West Brom style we came straight back down,due to the payments you get as a football league club.Probably getting a little giddy after a couple of wins, but it would be terrible to finish in the top five and miss a place in the league yet again.
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Post of the year!
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Surely you don't have to pay to be in the playoffs!!
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Surely you don't have to pay to be in the playoffs!!
I think we have to pay if we want to apply for the Football League next year? If we end up in the play offs and haven't payed this stupid fee thing, then there is no point us participating as we wont be allowed entry even if we do win..
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Come on apply, we have a chance if we play all our playoff games away from home :D
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You would think its been done,if it needs to be.900 quid is a lot of money,but im sure it could be made available,and if not,im sure as supporters we could muster a grand by next week if they asked!!.It would only need a tenner off 100 of us,and for something so important, you'd pull that in overnight.
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You would think its been done,if it needs to be.900 quid is a lot of money,but im sure it could be made available,and if not,im sure as supporters we could muster a grand by next week if they asked!!.It would only need a tenner off 100 of us,and for something so important, you'd pull that in overnight.
Definitely
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If it's a trip to Wembley we're setting our sights on, there is a very important game coming up on 12th December as well! The added advantage is that it won't cost us £900 to take part and the closer we got to the final of the Trophy, the more money we would receive!
I think we're genuine contenders for the competition this season if our attitude is right.
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On evidence of seeing us in the games with a fully fit squad,i'd say we're very much genuine contenders for a playoff place aswell
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You would think its been done,if it needs to be.900 quid is a lot of money,but im sure it could be made available,and if not,im sure as supporters we could muster a grand by next week if they asked!!.It would only need a tenner off 100 of us,and for something so important, you'd pull that in overnight.
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I would definitely sign up for that.
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Is this £900 on a website anywhere?
I don't think we'll get near the playoffs, I reckon about 10-12th which will be superb.
However stranger things have happened.
Imagine if we scraped 5th and the whole town starts talking about the club and we get two huge games against Luton.
ANd then we announce "ermmmm actually...."
Its a no brainer...if it is needed to be paid it will have been paid I am sure.
Otherwise whats the point in winning games?
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On evidence of seeing us in the games with a fully fit squad,i'd say we're very much genuine contenders for a playoff place aswell
I'm so excited by this it's unreal! :) :) :) :)
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i would defo give a tenner of my money to put to it, if its not been paid, like said befor me can u imagine if we just got in an we havent paid it!!!!
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I reckon we are well capable of a top 5 finish.. Kettering lost Exodus Geoghan to Peterborough today, he was a part of the spine of Kettering and they will miss him big time. like Hughesy says, If we can keep the squad reasonably free from injury and suspension I havent seen many teams who would trouble us that much..
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Every penny the club receive is money that can be used to strengthen our playoff push in January!
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I reckon we are well capable of a top 5 finish.. Kettering lost Exodus Geoghan to Peterborough today, he was a part of the spine of Kettering and they will miss him big time. like Hughesy says, If we can keep the squad reasonably free from injury and suspension I havent seen many teams who would trouble us that much..
That's our problem though - strength in depth, because our squad is so small we struggle when we get just 1 or 2 key players injured, as we've seen thus far this season.
I'm worried that will be our downfall over the course of the season, although obviously I hope not!
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Get the home form going, and we are in with a chance.
You can count on my tenner.
COME ON. ;)
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Surely you don't have to pay to be in the playoffs!!
I think we have to pay if we want to apply for the Football League next year? If we end up in the play offs and haven't payed this stupid fee thing, then there is no point us participating as we wont be allowed entry even if we do win..
Just as a matter of personal interest why is this a STUPID fee thing if, for a very small outlay, it allows a club to progress?
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If this is right then you have to think of the £900 asan entrance fee or a membership fee.
I think the theory is sound but £900 sounds too low for footie. I reckon such a fee would be nearer to £5k.
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That's our problem though - strength in depth, because our squad is so small we struggle when we get just 1 or 2 key players injured, as we've seen thus far this season.
I'm worried that will be our downfall over the course of the season, although obviously I hope not!
Indeed. There are only a couple of positions in which we have genuinely good cover. A few injuries and we're having to bugger around with strikers on the wing and shifting Youngy to left-back, stuff like that.
We're at the mercy of the injury Gods, though if we avoid them I have no doubt we won't be too far away. I still think if we improve upon last season's finish that's a good season, so I'm in dreamland with the way things are going.
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Surely you don't have to pay to be in the playoffs!!
I think we have to pay if we want to apply for the Football League next year? If we end up in the play offs and haven't payed this stupid fee thing, then there is no point us participating as we wont be allowed entry even if we do win..
Just as a matter of personal interest why is this a STUPID fee thing if, for a very small outlay, it allows a club to progress?
Because the idea that playing in the football league is a privilege for which Conference clubs ought to have to pay is a patronising relic of the re-election days perhaps?
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Surely you don't have to pay to be in the playoffs!!
I think we have to pay if we want to apply for the Football League next year? If we end up in the play offs and haven't payed this stupid fee thing, then there is no point us participating as we wont be allowed entry even if we do win..
Just as a matter of personal interest why is this a STUPID fee thing if, for a very small outlay, it allows a club to progress?
i just don't think you should have to pay at all
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Okay - I'll go with that but we do already pay for the privilege of playing I believe - affiliation to Cheshire FA, Affilliation to The FA probably some money to play in the Conference too.
Without these affilliations we could not play so it doesn't seem to unreasonable for there to be a fee for playing in the Football League. Also it might, if it were a large enough amount deter timewasters from applying and tbh given the increase in revenue probable i really don't see the problem
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How many players in our team are up to League Two standard though?
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How many players in our team are up to League Two standard though?
Luton would have stayed in League 2 comfortably were it not for the points deduction. They're hardly pissing this league. In fact, they're not far above us at all.
I reckon we'd have a chance of survival.
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Okay - I'll go with that but we do already pay for the privilege of playing I believe - affiliation to Cheshire FA, Affilliation to The FA probably some money to play in the Conference too.
Without these affilliations we could not play so it doesn't seem to unreasonable for there to be a fee for playing in the Football League. Also it might, if it were a large enough amount deter timewasters from applying and tbh given the increase in revenue probable i really don't see the problem
You can be an argumentative bugger, but I think you're right here.
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I think we're getting so far ahead of ourselves it's untrue! :)
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Is there a fee for entry to the Champions league?
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I don't think we are mate to be honest.
As I say, I don't think we have the strength in depth to make the playoffs (which we all know the reasons for)
However if we did sneak in then it would set the club back years if we could not take part.
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Okay - I'll go with that but we do already pay for the privilege of playing I believe - affiliation to Cheshire FA, Affilliation to The FA probably some money to play in the Conference too.
Without these affilliations we could not play so it doesn't seem to unreasonable for there to be a fee for playing in the Football League. Also it might, if it were a large enough amount deter timewasters from applying and tbh given the increase in revenue probable i really don't see the problem
Why should any team have to pay to get promoted? If they win the league or win a play-off and have a suitable ground, shouldn't that be enough? Do League Two clubs have to pay such a fee if they want to be eligible for promotion to League One? I doubt it. Affiliation fees are one thing but this just seems of way of getting 20 Conference clubs to pay for something from which only 2 will benefit.
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Fair enough, paying the £900 bond is something we should do as a matter of routine. However, this talk of which players would be good enough for League 2 is a little ahead of time.
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Fair enough, paying the £900 bond is something we should do as a matter of routine. However, this talk of which players would be good enough for League 2 is a little ahead of time.
Oh see what you mean.
Maybe we have paid it?
Can anyone confirm?
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And noting that word "bond".........is it refundable if we don't qualify ?
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And noting that word "bond".........is it refundable if we don't qualify ?
That had also occurred to me. I would be amazed if the club hasn't already attended to this.
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I was talking to a kidderminster supporting friend of mine about both our seasons,with both clubs doing pretty well so far.He mentioned that clubs wanting to gain entry to the football league at the end of the season have to apply to enter.I didnt realise clubs still had to apply,but he says that the deadline for applying is next week.This may be a little premature, and only a pipedream at the moment,but does anyone know if Alty have applied to join the football league? Im presuming we will have done.There is a deposit or bond of about £900 required apparently.But if you dont apply by next week, then you cannot take part in the playoffs,even if you finish in the top 5.Can someone clarify if this is the case, and wether or not the club has applied? Even one season in the footballl league as a part time side would be a dream for all supporters,and set the club up financially even if in West Brom style we came straight back down,due to the payments you get as a football league club.Probably getting a little giddy after a couple of wins, but it would be terrible to finish in the top five and miss a place in the league yet again.
Congratulations, Ledbury - or whoever you are - this must count as the biggest "chomp" we're ever likely to see on the forum.
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Little bit of an update from someone more knowledgeable than me on this.
There is definitely a fee to be paid and you have to apply and pay it if you want to be considered for the playoffs/promotion. Seems like the Conferences best kept secret that!
As for whether we have paid it or not then I don't know.
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wouldnt we earn a few quid by the mere fact of getting into the playoffs anyway.. Plus there is the extra gate money from the playoff matches.
Personally I think it may be unlikely but certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that we could end up in the top 5 this season..
As I said in an early post, there arent too many teams in this league that would worry me too much..
Isnt it nice to be discussing this rather than scratching around for points down the bottom of the league,
It's certainly worthy of discussion and just proves how far the club has come in the last few seasons
Long may this present situation remain
Cmon Alty.
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I was talking to a kidderminster supporting friend of mine about both our seasons,with both clubs doing pretty well so far.He mentioned that clubs wanting to gain entry to the football league at the end of the season have to apply to enter.I didnt realise clubs still had to apply,but he says that the deadline for applying is next week.This may be a little premature, and only a pipedream at the moment,but does anyone know if Alty have applied to join the football league? Im presuming we will have done.There is a deposit or bond of about £900 required apparently.But if you dont apply by next week, then you cannot take part in the playoffs,even if you finish in the top 5.Can someone clarify if this is the case, and wether or not the club has applied? Even one season in the footballl league as a part time side would be a dream for all supporters,and set the club up financially even if in West Brom style we came straight back down,due to the payments you get as a football league club.Probably getting a little giddy after a couple of wins, but it would be terrible to finish in the top five and miss a place in the league yet again.
Congratulations, Ledbury - or whoever you are - this must count as the biggest "chomp" we're ever likely to see on the forum.
I'm man enough to admit I was hopelessly wrong on this one! Apologies all round - and a Goodwin to Ledbury. ;)
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I still cannot believe the conference operates this system.
Are you telling me there has never been a team that has had a bad start to the season therefore not apply to be in the football league then hitting an amazing run and reaching the play-offs?? Surely someone would have been caught out before and we would have heard of this?
Why do they need a bag of sand up front for this? Why couldn't you just give the money on qualification?
Stinks to me unless you get the money back? Surely it would be part of the registration fee to be in the league each year?
Sceptic, yes I am.
Well reading all the rest of the posts it would seem this is the situation, another bizarre concept from the Conference.
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rocky rocky rocky
Don't you go pretending you don't know the conference is run by a set of space monkeys. all the rules ccome out of their backsides on an ad-hoc basis.
They should have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute years ago.