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Title: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: taxi Phil on November 07, 2011, 08:15:52 PM
Stoke City in the Europa League : unbeaten and heading for the next phase, Ryan Shotton ever present (1 goal, and a Man of the Match award).

Stoke City in the Premier League on the Sundays following Europa League : four straight defeats, and a goal difference of minus 13, Ryan Shotton hasn't set foot on the pitch.

Now, with respect, I think I can see the problem here Mr.Pulis....................................
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Darren on November 07, 2011, 08:27:57 PM
Stoke City in the Europa League : unbeaten and heading for the next phase, Ryan Shotton ever present (1 goal, and a Man of the Match award).

Stoke City in the Premier League on the Sundays following Europa League : four straight defeats, and a goal difference of minus 13, Ryan Shotton hasn't set foot on the pitch.

Now, with respect, I think I can see the problem here Mr.Pulis....................................

Having been at yesterday's game working you could see Stoke were there for the taking from the kick off it was nice to see the Reebok rocking, As for goals after music Bolton play Just can't get enough
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84L1hVVEls not normally a fan of music after goals but this works as the whole stadium joins in
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: bighairedmike on November 07, 2011, 09:15:45 PM
Stoke City in the Europa League : unbeaten and heading for the next phase, Ryan Shotton ever present (1 goal, and a Man of the Match award).

Stoke City in the Premier League on the Sundays following Europa League : four straight defeats, and a goal difference of minus 13, Ryan Shotton hasn't set foot on the pitch.

Now, with respect, I think I can see the problem here Mr.Pulis....................................

Having been at yesterday's game working you could see Stoke were there for the taking from the kick off it was nice to see the Reebok rocking, As for goals after music Bolton play Just can't get enough
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84L1hVVEls not normally a fan of music after goals but this works as the whole stadium joins in

Without getting the whole music debate started again, I'd rather scoop out my eyes with a rusty spoon than play music after a goal.

But on the Shotton front, wholeheartedly agree.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: whopper on November 08, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
Stoke City in the Europa League : unbeaten and heading for the next phase, Ryan Shotton ever present (1 goal, and a Man of the Match award).

Stoke City in the Premier League on the Sundays following Europa League : four straight defeats, and a goal difference of minus 13, Ryan Shotton hasn't set foot on the pitch.

Now, with respect, I think I can see the problem here Mr.Pulis....................................

Having been at yesterday's game working you could see Stoke were there for the taking from the kick off it was nice to see the Reebok rocking, As for goals after music Bolton play Just can't get enough
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84L1hVVEls not normally a fan of music after goals but this works as the whole stadium joins in
it really is a huge part of the entertainment at most sporting venues,  music should be embraced not stubbornly frowned opon, its happening at most clubs, we will wake up one day and smell the coffee, people view it as anti-traditional or something, truth is its just a bit of fun
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Saughall Robin on November 08, 2011, 08:55:18 AM
It works when there are 20,000 there and they all (or most of them) join in ... but not when there are 700 odd and on a tinny PA (Just my opinion)
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: MadFrankie on November 08, 2011, 09:18:03 AM
it really is a huge part of the entertainment at most sporting venues frequented by under-10s, Americans and social inadequates,  music should be embraced not stubbornly frowned opon, its happening at most clubs, we will wake up one day and smell the coffee, people view it as anti-traditional or something, truth is its just a bit of fun

Corrected for you.
In addition, I'd expect that the majority of people who currently create atmosphere after a goal would stand in silence if we played some cr4p music, while a handful of kids would sing along - sorry, but not my idea of fun.

If you want to hear music after a goal, take along your iPod and press the play button when Reevesy knocks in a goal - everyone's happy then.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: markecky on November 08, 2011, 10:11:36 AM
The notion that the whole crowd would sing along at Alty is a nonsense.

Only 50% of the crowd bother to clap the team onto the pitch, this reduced to 10% for the second half and  if you watch the videos some people don't even move when we score.

And on Saturday over 70% of the people who do sometimes sing were talking about their weekends etc and not even watching the match.

Yes its harder to get an atmosphere going when there are no away fans but we need to step it up a bit in my opinion.

Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: whopper on November 08, 2011, 01:05:58 PM
it really is a huge part of the entertainment at most sporting venues frequented by under-10s, Americans and social inadequates,  music should be embraced not stubbornly frowned opon, its happening at most clubs, we will wake up one day and smell the coffee, people view it as anti-traditional or something, truth is its just a bit of fun

Corrected for you.
In addition, I'd expect that the majority of people who currently create atmosphere after a goal would stand in silence if we played some cr4p music, while a handful of kids would sing along - sorry, but not my idea of fun.

If you want to hear music after a goal, take along your iPod and press the play button when Reevesy knocks in a goal - everyone's happy then.

What a bollox generalization that is and a complete myth again, so were at the level of correcting peoples posts to try and influence a debate, pathetic.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Knutsford Alty on November 08, 2011, 01:43:52 PM
(http://www.thomashughjohnson.com/pics/2006/january/alty.jpg) 

(http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/483.$plit/C_71_article_1072066_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg)

Actions speak louder than words

When would we be able to sing 'do you practice that all week'  :) Music, no thanks
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: bighairedmike on November 08, 2011, 02:00:46 PM
it really is a huge part of the entertainment at most sporting venues frequented by under-10s, Americans and social inadequates,  music should be embraced not stubbornly frowned opon, its happening at most clubs, we will wake up one day and smell the coffee, people view it as anti-traditional or something, truth is its just a bit of fun

Corrected for you.
In addition, I'd expect that the majority of people who currently create atmosphere after a goal would stand in silence if we played some cr4p music, while a handful of kids would sing along - sorry, but not my idea of fun.

If you want to hear music after a goal, take along your iPod and press the play button when Reevesy knocks in a goal - everyone's happy then.

What a bollox generalization that is and a complete myth again, so were at the level of correcting peoples posts to try and influence a debate, pathetic.

As if posts don't get edited by people to make a point all the time. Calm down Jacko. You have your point of view, others have theirs. Its a forum where it all gets aired. Just because somebody disagrees with you no need to start calling them pathetic.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: GolfRoader on November 08, 2011, 02:27:48 PM
I can't believe this is being debated still. It's just so tinpot to have music after a goal and I'm actually embarrassed for other clubs when they do it. It's football not High School bloody musical.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: CB on November 08, 2011, 04:35:58 PM
Stoke City in the Europa League : unbeaten and heading for the next phase, Ryan Shotton ever present (1 goal, and a Man of the Match award).

Stoke City in the Premier League on the Sundays following Europa League : four straight defeats, and a goal difference of minus 13, Ryan Shotton hasn't set foot on the pitch.

Now, with respect, I think I can see the problem here Mr.Pulis....................................

Having been at yesterday's game working you could see Stoke were there for the taking from the kick off it was nice to see the Reebok rocking, As for goals after music Bolton play Just can't get enough
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84L1hVVEls not normally a fan of music after goals but this works as the whole stadium joins in

They also have a drum.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Hamilton on November 08, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
I can't believe this is being debated still. It's just so tinpot to have music after a goal and I'm actually embarrassed for other clubs when they do it. It's football not High School bloody musical.

or Glee! (C'mon! Catch up with the times!)
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Hamilton on November 08, 2011, 04:37:25 PM
(http://www.thomashughjohnson.com/pics/2006/january/alty.jpg) 

(http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/483.$plit/C_71_article_1072066_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg)

Actions speak louder than words

When would we be able to sing 'do you practice that all week'  :) Music, no thanks

Spot on Goodwinness!
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on November 08, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
it really is a huge part of the entertainment at most sporting venues frequented by under-10s, Americans and social inadequates,  music should be embraced not stubbornly frowned opon, its happening at most clubs, we will wake up one day and smell the coffee, people view it as anti-traditional or something, truth is its just a bit of fun

Corrected for you.
In addition, I'd expect that the majority of people who currently create atmosphere after a goal would stand in silence if we played some cr4p music, while a handful of kids would sing along - sorry, but not my idea of fun.

If you want to hear music after a goal, take along your iPod and press the play button when Reevesy knocks in a goal - everyone's happy then.

What a bollox generalization that is and a complete myth again, so were at the level of correcting peoples posts to try and influence a debate, pathetic.

What Jacko is forgetting is that football can only be played in triangles.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: whopper on November 08, 2011, 07:07:13 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, to many alty fans are stuck in the muck and are to stubborn to even wipe themselves down, darren makes a good point from experience sadly overlooked.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: York Alty on November 08, 2011, 07:44:12 PM
NO NAFFING POXY STUPID CRUDDY PANTS AWFUL MUSIC AFTER GOALS.

Thanks
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: taxi Phil on November 08, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
This post was about Ryan Shotton, but has become seriously derailed. For the record, music at sports events should be played before and after the match, or at half time, and AT NO OTHER TIME. It makes supporters lazy, and reduces their input to the event.

Mind you, if we could arrange to fit the Birch brothers with I-Pods and repeatedly play "Shaddap-a Your Face" at maximum revs, I just MIGHT be interested.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Hamilton on November 08, 2011, 07:55:54 PM
This post was about Ryan Shotton, but has become seriously derailed. For the record, music at sports events should be played before and after the match, or at half time, and AT NO OTHER TIME. It makes supporters lazy, and reduces their input to the event.

Mind you, if we could arrange to fit the Birch brothers with I-Pods and repeatedly play "Shaddap-a Your Face" at maximum revs, I just MIGHT be interested.

Slap my Birch Up!
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on November 08, 2011, 09:00:32 PM
I go to sale sharks sometimes, and at one point I went on a very regular basis,  music is played there after every point scoring effort. It works. However the reason it works is despite the large numbers scores are not celebrated in any sort of similar vigor that we celebrate when we score.

If it came to a point where 8 people were stood on the golf road mildly applauding a goal then would be the time for us to think about playing music to try and add some atmosphere, but as a club we support the team in quite a vocal way and so music after goals would be a quite frankly stupid idea.

Kisses
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: RockyRobin on November 10, 2011, 06:21:57 PM
Time for a referendum!

Set up a forum vote and the majority wins, and we can put the debate to bed for a few years.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: MadFrankie on November 10, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
That was done pre-season with the red/white v red/black kit debate and it worked a treat.
Title: Re: Message for Tony Pulis
Post by: taxi Phil on December 04, 2011, 08:46:46 PM
It's good to know that you read our Forum Tony, and also that you follow my well-regarded advice. Told you if Ryan started you'd win (even if it was only Everton !).

Now we have your attention, I notice that Ricardo Fuller was on the bench today. If you'd like him to get up to match fitness, we could find a spot on OUR bench for him, just for when Damien or Jack need a rest (though he'd have to challenge Twissy for the privilege of actually coming on)  ;)

If in doubt, Ryan will reinforce to you that a spell with the Mighty Robins is perfect for setting a player up for the Premier League.