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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on November 12, 2016, 04:42:22 PM
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Not even left the ground.
3 at the back first half and full backs don't overlap?
Having Lawrie, Wilkinson and Miller in the team will not win you games. They can't get back.
Lawrie struggles to beat the first man on set pieces. If Wilko plays he does set pieces.
Right back number 9.
No pace in the team and lazy.
No 8 Lenighan, appears clueless and the game passed him,like most.
Paterson has energy but not good at defending. Cyrus doesn't even stand goal side of his player.
No leaders out there and hasn't been since Robbie Lawton.
Need energy in the team but Richman sits on the bench and Lenighan starts in front of him.
More than anything a team full of fannies who are not fit to wear out shirt.
I am now wasting my money.
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Given up. No spirit no fight, nothing. Another week, another new formation with new players. Same circus different clowns. Harvey must take the blame from now on. He's had no impact at all. Weird formation, John Cyrus captain, a full back up front? Confidence is at an all time low, and Harvey's decisions to take Lenighan off after 30 mins and play a bloody full back up top won't have helped Lenighan or Reeves. Disgraceful.
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And 2k home fans to witness it
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Cyrus as captain ? If I was in the changing room I would be thinking if you f**k up weekly you lead . Unbelievable
Reeves on the bench signalled the intent from the off
Its hard to watch the demise unfold in front of us
Time to start planning for next season now?
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Down and out,simple as that. Why was Reeves on the bench with a right back who hasn't played for 15 months up front??!!
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Obeng, maybe not his fault playing out of position, was sh*te. Leather left us because we were £50 short on his weekly wage. Should have built around a young solid defender. 35 years old, back op and even I would have done more up front than Obeng, not even joking. I would have at least put by beer belly around.
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Whatever success and his reputation in the past it is abundantly clear that the players are not responding to Jim Harvey's methods.
Another week, another game passes us by, another clear defeat and confused set up and system. I think it was Hughesy who said it the other day we have to stare reality in the face and that is the Evostik Premier League. Maybe a younger man, who we haven't heard of but is prepared to stick it for the long term is needed. We've hit rock bottom and the road back will be long and painful.
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Oh Doughty as assistant clearly doesn't work either. Didn't first time round.
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Whatever success and his reputation in the past it is abundantly clear that the players are not responding to Jim Harvey's methods.
Another week, another game passes us by, another clear defeat and confused set up and system. I think it was Hughesy who said it the other day we have to stare reality in the face and that is the Evostik Premier League. Maybe a younger man, who we haven't heard of but is prepared to stick it for the long term is needed. We've hit rock bottom and the road back will be long and painful.
I really hope you are right and this is rock bottom and we don't yet have further to fall
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I would love and thrive such a job. Serious consideration about my badges, not that I think you need them.
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Given up. No spirit no fight, nothing. Another week, another new formation with new players. Same circus different clowns. Harvey must take the blame from now on. He's had no impact at all. Weird formation, John Cyrus captain, a full back up front? Confidence is at an all time low, and Harvey's decisions to take Lenighan off after 30 mins and play a bloody full back up top won't have helped Lenighan or Reeves. Disgraceful.
spot on
Harvey taking us backwards rather than forwards. His signings and formations have been worse than Neil Youngs. As for making Cyrus captain, for me it's a sackable offence to even play him never mind make him captain, crazy
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How many more managers are going to bench Reeves in favour of inferior players? Are we putting something in the managers' tea or what? f**k me, we're not going to get out of this situation by starting matches with no recognised striker on the pitch. You don't have to be Pep Guardiola to figure that one out!
Jesus wept!
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At least 4 good wing play today nowt on the end
No striker no one in the box
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Given up. No spirit no fight, nothing. Another week, another new formation with new players. Same circus different clowns. Harvey must take the blame from now on. He's had no impact at all. Weird formation, John Cyrus captain, a full back up front? Confidence is at an all time low, and Harvey's decisions to take Lenighan off after 30 mins and play a bloody full back up top won't have helped Lenighan or Reeves. Disgraceful.
whilst I agree with most of your post we have to remember 3 things.
Jim was handed a pile of turd on arrival couple that with the fact we can't compete financially with other teams in the leauge like Harrogate and then add into the mix we are on track for relegation. Attracting players into that is very very difficult
However as you say the selection today was a disgrace and his fault
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Is this real?
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Losing the faith.
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Jim had to try something different. It didn't work. He inherited a very poor squad and the only players available are free agents who are free for a reason. Yes, Obeng over Reeves was weird, but I think he was trying to bringing more speed up front. That didn't work either. On a positive note, the new centre back was pretty decent and the defence generally looked more compact than it has done all season. Dawber was brilliant today. We lack the kind of creativity Nicky would have provided and the kind of physicality that a Robbie Lawton or Eddie would have provided in midfield. I think we're down, but I do believe in miracles.
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Jim had to try something different. It didn't work. He inherited a very poor squad and the only players available are free agents who are free for a reason. Yes, Obeng over Reeves was weird, but I think he was trying to bringing more speed up front. That didn't work either. On a positive note, the new centre back was pretty decent and the defence generally looked more compact than it has done all season. Dawber was brilliant today. We lack the kind of creativity Nicky would have provided and the kind of physicality that a Robbie Lawton or Eddie would have provided in midfield. I think we're down, but I do believe in miracles.
How can he possibly justify Cyrus as captain. Someone needs to help me out here
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Jim talks a good story, but players are not responding. If nothing else I expect 100% from the players on the pitch, thats not happening. And to start with no recognised CF was bizarre.
Whatever they do at training is not working.
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Blame the chairman, not the present manager. Spending sanctioned on dross. And as for the Duncan windfall. Wasted😩
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Jim had to try something different. It didn't work. He inherited a very poor squad and the only players available are free agents who are free for a reason. Yes, Obeng over Reeves was weird, but I think he was trying to bringing more speed up front. That didn't work either. On a positive note, the new centre back was pretty decent and the defence generally looked more compact than it has done all season. Dawber was brilliant today. We lack the kind of creativity Nicky would have provided and the kind of physicality that a Robbie Lawton or Eddie would have provided in midfield. I think we're down, but I do believe in miracles.
How can he possibly justify Cyrus as captain. Someone needs to help me out here
I'd love to be able to help you out but I was as baffled as you were.
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Well that was bizarre.
I dont know what formation we were playing but it was sh*te. No strikers on the pitch and your not going to score many. 1 shot on target i recall.
Remember when young signed a player on thursday, started him saturday and subbed him after 18mins. Not much differnt today.
We're fukked.
Thought mcwilliams was our mom but believe he got a bollocking for being sh*te so wbo knows.
As for Cyrus being capt, perphaps its jh giving him a confidence boost
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I also thought Jim was trying to give Cyrus a confidence boost. In all fairness, he did okay - the defence was a bit more solid and I agree that McWilliams did well too. Goalie was surely our motm though.
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Jim hahaha
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Wank
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Plenty of cider to tell the truth
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Can't honestly see us winning another game this season. 2400 in there today and it sounded like a morgue, it looks like everyone is resigned to relegation and I think the players know it, and accept it, too.
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Only three players earned their pay today .. Dauber, McWilliams and Miller.
Wilkinson is too fkn lightweight and needs to man up and get on the weights, apart from the 3 mentioned their still isn't any fight in the team.
Salford no10 ran us fkn ragged, he is on loan from Fleetwood why aren't we scouting that kind of talent ffs
Its beyond a joke now, sh*t creek is right in front of us and the fkn paddle is probably in the corner of the dressing room.
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Jim Harvey is making sh*te decisons. It is plain to see, thinking too much. Managers over think tactics. They simply f**k up the simple decisons.
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Jim Harvey is making sh*te decisons. It is plain to see, thinking too much. Managers over think tactics. They simply f**k up the simple decisons.
The most cohesive we have looked was under Shaun Densmore and we were playing 4-4-2. We need to get back to playing a system everybody understands, play the players in their correct position and stop with the constant chopping and changing. We had 3 players making their home debuts today and the rest of them (excluding Lawrie) relatively new to the club playing a system that was impossible to comprehend. Keep it simple Jim.
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The team don't seem to be able to comprehend simple instructions.
Probably due to them being too fkn busy poncing about on social media sites telling everybody what they fkn had for dinner.
I would get them all on a beasting session and get them to work as a team and install some grit and fight in them.
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Two things I fail to understand. 1 - Why did the XI that finished the game at Lincoln - and competed well in the second half there - not start the game today? 2 - When Richman came on at Lincoln the energy level of the team rose by a factor of getting on for 100%, yet today he was on the bench & stayed there. Why? If he wasn't fit to play he shouldn't have been named as a sub - & if he was fit to play he should surely have started. I try not to be critical of managers - nearly 50 years watching Alty has taught me that managers know more than I do about the game - but Mr. Harvey's team selection today defeated me completely.
I shall be looking at the clubs in the league below to see how many new grounds I'll be visiting in 2017-18; meanwhile, fool that I am, I'll be at Alfreton on Saturday, wherever we play in the Trophy the week after, at Moss Lane on December 3rd, & certified soon after that, I don't doubt.
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Suprrb post AFC56
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I admire your fortitude Mike (I don't think you need certifying quite yet !) but I've reached a point where I can't arouse enough enthusiasm to attend home games when I have a season ticket. I don't expect to see my team play again this calendar year, and early 2017 looks distinctly unpromising at the moment. At this rate we'll be playing to actual crowds of 400 by then though absent season ticket holders will inflate that figure by a fair few. It's simply too depressing to watch just now.
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Jim had to try something different. It didn't work. He inherited a very poor squad and the only players available are free agents who are free for a reason. Yes, Obeng over Reeves was weird, but I think he was trying to bringing more speed up front. That didn't work either. On a positive note, the new centre back was pretty decent and the defence generally looked more compact than it has done all season. Dawber was brilliant today. We lack the kind of creativity Nicky would have provided and the kind of physicality that a Robbie Lawton or Eddie would have provided in midfield. I think we're down, but I do believe in miracles.
Unfortunately I don't believe in miracles
the harder you work the luckier you get a great manger once said.
We try and pass the ball yet it was Salford who had all the chances
(don't think they put more more than 4-5 passes together but to be be fair that doesn't matter and particularly against us when one long ball will do) We didn't put in one serious challenge today any where on the park!!!!!!
Dawber was good true however that was because the defence was so poor. 1st goal conceded same old same old ball over the top in the channel catches us out every time and unfortunately that was then game over as we showed very little in the second half. I reckon I've seen 3 of the worst ever Alty home performances in one season!
I can't currently see us winning another game, yet we need minimum playoff form just to survive....... based on our last 18-24months performances is that a realistic possibility.
really not sure where we go from here..... perhaps praying for miracles is the only solution, I certainly will pray for Jim
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Two things I fail to understand. 1 - Why did the XI that finished the game at Lincoln - and competed well in the second half there - not start the game today? 2 - When Richman came on at Lincoln the energy level of the team rose by a factor of getting on for 100%, yet today he was on the bench & stayed there. Why? If he wasn't fit to play he shouldn't have been named as a sub - & if he was fit to play he should surely have started. I try not to be critical of managers - nearly 50 years watching Alty has taught me that managers know more than I do about the game - but Mr. Harvey's team selection today defeated me completely.
I shall be looking at the clubs in the league below to see how many new grounds I'll be visiting in 2017-18; meanwhile, fool that I am, I'll be at Alfreton on Saturday, wherever we play in the Trophy the week after, at Moss Lane on December 3rd, & certified soon after that, I don't doubt.
Spot on post. If you end a game well then carry on with momentum. Not impressed with Jim and I love Doughty as a player but no assistant manager. Not sure if they are the right combination. Graham, still here without FA qualifications but I would get better results. Desperate times and desperate measures.
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Bunch of fannies be ashamed. Man up and get a grip. That includes the manger making sh*te decisons. Do you think you'd win games with Miller, Lawrie and Wilkinson in the same squad?what did you learn as Northern Ireland assistant manager? Even if can see that man.
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I actually can't believe there are people on here defending what we seen today! We looked more solid defensively? We could have been 5-0 down at half time. Also, 5 of the starting 11 today were Harvey signings. I understand he is limited to who he can get in at this stage of the season but most managers would be lucky to get the chance to bring in 6/7 players in the summer never mind mid season. Drastic changes/improvements needed pronto or it really is time to get ready for the Evo stick.
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Jim Harvey's record in charge is surely one of unprecedented misery for any Altrincham FC manager in his opening eight league fixtures:
Won: 1.
Drawn: 0.
Lost: 7.
Goals scored: 5.
Goals conceded: 20.
Points gained: 3 out of a possible total of 24.
As you may already have gathered, I am utterly deflated after our latest calamity.
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Jim Harvey's record in charge is surely one of unprecedented misery for any Altrincham FC manager in his opening eight league fixtures:
Won: 1.
Drawn: 0.
Lost: 7.
Goals scored: 5.
Goals conceded: 20.
Points gained: 3 out of a possible total of 24.
As you may already have gathered, I am utterly deflated after our latest calamity.
mother have mercy on our poor souls
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Sean Williams from Telford to Warrington? Isn't he the sort of player we could have done with at this level?
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Sean Williams from Telford to Warrington? Isn't he the sort of player we could have done with at this level?
Exactly.
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Proper grafter that fella
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Sean Williams from Telford to Warrington? Isn't he the sort of player we could have done with at this level?
According to the Shropshire Star (as quoted on our club website) "It is reported that Sean Williams has left the club because of work commitments." It could be that those commitments would limit his choice of club, so although we could have done with him he might simply not be available to us.