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[Uncle Globnasty]

The previous two managers can f**k off. What was Neil Young doing if he wasn't scouting this level when he wasn't managing for a year. Harvey too.

It's not hard to have a good scouting system, 'many management teams have done just fine. Messrs Doughty and Lawton should've been on the case too rather than relying on Heathcote to sign his mates or previous players too.

Also, do these stats have the profile to show the 'mentally retired' player? Because at this level they're the greater danger. From Twiss laughing at Heathcote's desperation at giving him a two year contract, to Griffith looking for a quick buck, to Tom Hannigan who fancies a quite life and gets injured easily and can't cope with the pressure of a club that actually has long standing fans or the pressure of a relegation battle. That's what kills you.

I can only speak for what Prozone did, but they would certainly show you what sort of effort players were putting in, from which you could potentially deduce attitude. Of course, all systems are fallible to a certain extent and if you get a player who was brilliant at a previous club, but for whatever reason over the close season has mentally thrown in the towel, it will not detect that until it's too late and he's on your books milking you for all you're worth.

[Ballers]

And as has been the case with 4 of the last 7 managers we've had, the mentally retired manager is equally as bad.

[York Alty is back]

The previous two managers can f**k off. What was Neil Young doing if he wasn't scouting this level when he wasn't managing for a year. Harvey too.

It's not hard to have a good scouting system, 'many management teams have done just fine. Messrs Doughty and Lawton should've been on the case too rather than relying on Heathcote to sign his mates or previous players too.

Also, do these stats have the profile to show the 'mentally retired' player? Because at this level they're the greater danger. From Twiss laughing at Heathcote's desperation at giving him a two year contract, to Griffith looking for a quick buck, to Tom Hannigan who fancies a quite life and gets injured easily and can't cope with the pressure of a club that actually has long standing fans or the pressure of a relegation battle. That's what kills you.

I can only speak for what Prozone did, but they would certainly show you what sort of effort players were putting in, from which you could potentially deduce attitude. Of course, all systems are fallible to a certain extent and if you get a player who was brilliant at a previous club, but for whatever reason over the close season has mentally thrown in the towel, it will not detect that until it's too late and he's on your books milking you for all you're worth.

what was the name of the lad we had on loan from Blackpool in the Unibond days - was it Keith Russell?  Blinding when on loan, full of movement, ability, desire and goals.  Signed him up and  s p l a t.

Stats tell only part of a story, and sometimes can lead you donw the wrong path.  If you've got the wrong manager then you've got the wrong manager, and we do.

[Uncle Globnasty]

And as has been the case with 4 of the last 7 managers we've had, the mentally retired manager is equally as bad.

In some of those cases, I would argue they were mentally inept to begin with.

[Uncle Globnasty]

Stats tell only part of a story, and sometimes can lead you donw the wrong path.  If you've got the wrong manager then you've got the wrong manager, and we do.

Indeed, as I said above.....no system is infallible (including manager knowledge), but anything that can help has to be welcomed. You shouldn't rely on any one system or method and even then there will be mistakes......we are dealing with humans not machines.

[taxi Phil]

Managers and players at the lower reaches of the game, and who have a CV as long as your arm, are generally serial failures.

[GB Alty]

The previous two managers can f**k off. What was Neil Young doing if he wasn't scouting this level when he wasn't managing for a year. Harvey too.

It's not hard to have a good scouting system, 'many management teams have done just fine. Messrs Doughty and Lawton should've been on the case too rather than relying on Heathcote to sign his mates or previous players too.

Also, do these stats have the profile to show the 'mentally retired' player? Because at this level they're the greater danger. From Twiss laughing at Heathcote's desperation at giving him a two year contract, to Griffith looking for a quick buck, to Tom Hannigan who fancies a quite life and gets injured easily and can't cope with the pressure of a club that actually has long standing fans or the pressure of a relegation battle. That's what kills you.

Spot on Ballers all this football science with its charts and graphs american thinking is bullsh*t - and I can tell you now will have no place in the evostick

Just appoint a proper manager and be done with it - this is just the current board trying to spread the responsibility wider and off them, its bullsh*t

[Uncle Globnasty]

The previous two managers can f**k off. What was Neil Young doing if he wasn't scouting this level when he wasn't managing for a year. Harvey too.

It's not hard to have a good scouting system, 'many management teams have done just fine. Messrs Doughty and Lawton should've been on the case too rather than relying on Heathcote to sign his mates or previous players too.

Also, do these stats have the profile to show the 'mentally retired' player? Because at this level they're the greater danger. From Twiss laughing at Heathcote's desperation at giving him a two year contract, to Griffith looking for a quick buck, to Tom Hannigan who fancies a quite life and gets injured easily and can't cope with the pressure of a club that actually has long standing fans or the pressure of a relegation battle. That's what kills you.

Spot on Ballers all this football science with its charts and graphs american thinking is bullsh*t - and I can tell you now will have no place in the evostick

Just appoint a proper manager and be done with it - this is just the current board trying to spread the responsibility wider and off them, its bullsh*t

It's bullsh*t at our level for sure as there's no feckin data and none of the clubs could afford it to be properly done anyway, but it certainly has an effect at other levels.....it's not the be all and end all, but it can certainly provide assistance to a manager.