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Title: What weve put into our club.... and what weve got out of it !!!!!!
Post by: scott tompson on April 23, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
Us as supporters have put so much into our club, paying for coach travel, petrol for the car to watch away games , buying season tickets, putting lots of our money just to see a bunch of players that couldn't give a toss about us. Half of the bloody squad didn't care :'( except for a few including nicky clee, dale etc.

Is this  what you feel because i certainly do ! ??? ??? ???

your views
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Post by: RageAgainstTheFirstTeam on April 23, 2011, 05:23:34 PM
Two words.

Let down.
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on April 23, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
I obviously don't get to many games, but that is certainly the impression I've got from recent performances having spoken to several reliable sources.

Clear out the dead wood and start again.

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Post by: ManagementGuru on April 23, 2011, 05:55:04 PM
Sad.  Very sad.  Not angry, just very low indeed
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Post by: wayno on April 23, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
Truly awful no effort or passion
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Post by: distancetraveller on April 23, 2011, 07:04:58 PM
What pisses me off more than anything is that games at Fleetwood and FGR plus Newport today we just havent shown any heart or passion and that fkn hurts..

I hope Ken Mc gets rid of of them and starts afresh.. This lot just dont give a f**k any longer
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Post by: Toff Apple on April 23, 2011, 07:06:01 PM
FGR, Fleetwood and today, if only reeves had scored 3 gilt edged chances, things might be different
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Post by: fuertes on April 23, 2011, 07:18:25 PM
FGR, Fleetwood and today, if only reeves had scored 3 gilt edged chances, things might be different

At least he's getting in the positions. Nobody intends to miss, but he's showing the effort and guile to create chances.

He's made mistakes but is one of very few players immune from serious criticism this season.
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Post by: JT on April 23, 2011, 07:26:53 PM
It was pathetic.

I didn't make it to fleetwood, but today and FGR were abysmal. The lack of fight from the majority of them is disgusting.

Not a happy camper :(
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Post by: scott tompson on April 23, 2011, 07:35:56 PM
What I've put into it.....thousands of miles of travelling; thousands of pounds in hard earned cash and today we got the square root of f**k all.
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Post by: ant on April 23, 2011, 07:45:08 PM
Today we were truely awful.  I spent half the season trying to persuade a mate to start coming and he came along today and was shocked how heartless we were(needless to say he's unlikely to be back).  I was gutted as we've at least shown heart on most occasions but we looked out on our feet from the start and totally disinterested.  Williams looked bored (I thought he was particulary poor) and the whole team lacked togetherness and concentration.  Robbie did his usual cheerleader bit but he's not a midfielder-his positioning is atrocious.  As for Twiss, Dootson summed it up when he quite clearly shouted at him after kicking the ball to him and giving him a 30 ft head start on their defence and they still caught him.  Lets just hope we show a bit of pride to finish the season off with.  We're gone and should now look at the re-build for next season.
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Post by: Bazbatteria on April 23, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
The team was completely disjointed, I didn't know who to clap at the end. Some were dedicated, lets just re-group and get back up, even if we do get a reprieve the cat in hells chance is gonna want to play for us? This club has a history and not alot of players realise this, respect to Doots today who I thought had a good game and summing it up and yelling 'if your not arsed then f@*k off. 
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Post by: AFC56 on April 23, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
RESPECT TO DOOTS................No thank you.
The stream of obscenities he hurled at Johnson on more than one occasion was totally out of order.
Don't confuse foul mouthed tirades at team mates as a show of committment either.
A family a group stood behind me, clearly embarrassed, remarked on his language.
 
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Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 23, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
FGR, Fleetwood and today, if only reeves had scored 3 gilt edged chances, things might be different

At least he's getting in the positions. Nobody intends to miss, but he's showing the effort and guile to create chances.

He's made mistakes but is one of very few players immune from serious criticism this season.

Also I'd suggest that if he was burying all the chances he got he'd not be playing in the Conference
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Post by: VofD on April 23, 2011, 09:04:48 PM
Two words.

Let down.

Another two words :

GUTLESS & CLUELESS.  >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: altyazz on April 23, 2011, 09:15:01 PM
yes I am upset   :'( but at the end f the day we are part time and do quite well concidering. We all need to be behind the lads and hopefully we can stay up :)   
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Post by: Ballers on April 24, 2011, 08:11:01 AM
RESPECT TO DOOTS................No thank you.
The stream of obscenities he hurled at Johnson on more than one occasion was totally out of order.
Don't confuse foul mouthed tirades at team mates as a show of committment either.
A family a group stood behind me, clearly embarrassed, remarked on his language.
 

If that had been the case I'd agree. I think you'll find though that his tirades were actually aimed at Michael Twiss and by God it was bang on the money. I appreciate the language wasn't great but if that family had seen what we've seen the season they'd understand. The last tirade at Twiss drew a round of applause from the amusoleum!
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Post by: seasonticket on April 24, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
I have not been able to get to many games this season but yesterday to say I was dissappointed is the understatement of the year.
I expected to see good things from Connors and Piergianni. They were poor. Connors made some dubious chalenges and got away with them, and passed mostly to Newport players.
Piergianni lumbered around like a cart horse.
In fact take out Clee, Lawton Reeves, Johnson and Densmore second half, the rest were somewhere between poor and abysmal.
As for the three stooges Baynes, Twiss and Beesley, I think they were involved in a competition for the worst player of the match.
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Post by: brian1925 on April 24, 2011, 09:20:21 AM
I think you were watching a different game from me seasonticket. Though I believe Beesley has been woeful for Alty, he actually did pretty well when he came on yesterday - though with Twiss and Baynes I would concur with you 100%. I'd also agree that Connors was poor yesterday, though probably not fit to be fair.
You've got to be joking about Carl though mate. He was basically having to carry two non-entity 'centre halves' all afternoon.
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Post by: Beez on April 24, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
Yesterday was nothing short of an embarrasment.

We gifted them 3 of the softest goals, the 3rd in particular was a disgrace, no attempt by Joseph to stop the cross and not much effort when the ball got into the box there wasn't much effort to do anything about it.

Robbie Williams and its a real shame  because i think he's one of the few that cares was having to be marshalled around in the 2nd half and told where to stand by 18 year old Carl Piergianni, i really fear whether he'll have the football brain to even cope with BSN.

Everytime Newport won the ball in midfield, it seemed like they had acres of space, they could pick a pass off at ease, not a hint of pressure.

I can understand simply not being good enough, but i will never be able to accept an Altrincham side that shows the lack of effort like from some yesterday in such an important game, of course this has been one of our biggest downfalls all season at times. Its all well and good some of them having the heads in hands at the end, but the should have been giving each other some home truths a long long time ago.

In the end i was expecting to want to give the team both barrels as they left the pitch. They really musn't understand nor care how much it does costs to watch Alty all over the country, to endure such performances as yesterday, FGR, Histon, Blyth to name but a few (and why would they as they pick up their pay packets? Afterall its just a job). But when it came to it, like much of the team itself, i simply couldn't be bothered!
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on April 24, 2011, 09:36:28 AM
The clear out should begin on monday evening if we fail to win at grimsby.That gives us 14 weeks to have a squad ready to play together in preseason friendlies rather hanging on until a few days before that start of the season to see if players like joseph have decided if they want to play for us or not....
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on April 24, 2011, 09:38:44 AM
The clear out should begin on monday evening if we fail to win at grimsby.

Agree with this.

No point going through the motions for another 90 minutes. I'd rather see half a team of youth players trying their guts out and getting beat than watch some of the prima donnas who have reportedly disgraced the red and white stripes in recent weeks.
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Post by: wayno on April 24, 2011, 10:01:47 AM
Yesterday was nothing short of an embarrasment.

We gifted them 3 of the softest goals, the 3rd in particular was a disgrace, no attempt by Joseph to stop the cross and not much effort when the ball got into the box there wasn't much effort to do anything about it.

Robbie Williams and its a real shame  because i think he's one of the few that cares was having to be marshalled around in the 2nd half and told where to stand by 18 year old Carl Piergianni, i really fear whether he'll have the football brain to even cope with BSN.

Everytime Newport won the ball in midfield, it seemed like they had acres of space, they could pick a pass off at ease, not a hint of pressure.

I can understand simply not being good enough, but i will never be able to accept an Altrincham side that shows the lack of effort like from some yesterday in such an important game, of course this has been one of our biggest downfalls all season at times. Its all well and good some of them having the heads in hands at the end, but the should have been giving each other some home truths a long long time ago.

In the end i was expecting to want to give the team both barrels as they left the pitch. They really musn't understand nor care how much it does costs to watch Alty all over the country, to endure such performances as yesterday, FGR, Histon, Blyth to name but a few (and why would they as they pick up their pay packets? Afterall its just a job). But when it came to it, like much of the team itself, i simply couldn't be bothered!

Great post
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Post by: robininstockport on April 24, 2011, 10:06:02 AM
We can't really start anything untill we know who the manager is going to be.
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on April 24, 2011, 10:19:20 AM
If kenny does decide to take up this rumoured post at luton then fair play to him,he could have walked in sept but he has stayed and nearly achieved a wonderful turn around.If he does decide to move on,then im sure he would go with everyones best wishes,and lets hope if the worst happens and he does go,we get an appointment swiftly,and its somebody not connected with the club in the past,a completely fresh outlook not an ex player or manager,someone new to the club,with new ideas.
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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on April 24, 2011, 10:20:14 AM
I wouldn't bet against Stuart Bimson throwing his hat into the ring.
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Post by: Toff Apple on April 24, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
How do we know about this job offer? seems odd that kenny would have told others and very odd that luton would be banding it around
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Post by: Mrs Warbouys on April 24, 2011, 11:35:19 AM
How do we know about this job offer? seems odd that kenny would have told others and very odd that luton would be banding it around

Might just be people putting 2 and 2 togther, however there are rumblings on the luton fourm

http://members.boardhost.com/lutonoutlaws/thread/1303639125.html
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Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on April 24, 2011, 05:35:31 PM
I wouldn't bet against Stuart Bimson throwing his hat into the ring.

Stuart Bimson lives in Cambridgeshire and commutes to training and matches (also bringing Carl Piergianni)

I don't think he'd continue to do that do you?
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Post by: AFC56 on April 24, 2011, 06:10:38 PM
If that had been the case I'd agree. I think you'll find though that his tirades were actually aimed at Michael Twiss and by God it was bang on the money. I appreciate the language wasn't great but if that family had seen what we've seen the season they'd understand. The last tirade at Twiss drew a round of applause from the amusoleum

I agree with the above Ballers, Twiss was also the beneficiary of one one of Dootson's 'motivational' rants. The first one was deffo aimed at Dale though cos Twiss wasn't even on the field at the time.

I don't know whether Dootson was acting under instructions from Ken 'to get them at it' if so I think using the c word to your team mates is hardly the way to go about it.

All it showed me is the it is hardlly 'all for one and one for all' in the Alty dressing room at the moment.

By the end even Ken was beginning to look and sound like GH, without the foul language I hasten to add.

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Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on April 24, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
I wouldn't bet against Stuart Bimson throwing his hat into the ring.

Stuart Bimson lives in Cambridgeshire and commutes to training and matches (also bringing Carl Piergianni)

I don't think he'd continue to do that do you?

Maybe not. It will be interesting to see what does happen in the coming months though.
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Post by: ben11 on April 25, 2011, 12:39:12 PM
I agree but we have to keep going we can still stay up and we can still get into the agm cup and our players need to keep there heads up and give it there all for the club because if they don't give it there all we will have to get use to the fact we are in the blue square north.

keep your heads up and get stuck in

cheers