Duke, I for one have given Joe a break, time and time again. I wasn't at the match on Saturday, but would dearly love to see him taking Woking's full back apart on Thursday. What I will say is that both Joe and Col were struggling before Christmas and have since flourished with new players around them. If the same courtesy was extended to Carlos then, who knows? I don't prescribe to heckling Alty players, whether I see then play or not. Since they may read the comments made on this forum I feel it makes sense to be as constructive and positive as possible. Some of the comments made by some of the regulars about Carlos have been pathetic to say the least and I (and others) too have the right to think that Ecky.