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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: ant on September 08, 2008, 07:50:31 PM
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He's 100% committed and 100% Altrincham but he's all over the place in Midfield I'm afraid. He runs around like a headless chicken and his positioning is nowhere at all. He barely gets a touch of the ball and I often see him drifting in the middle of nowhere. I've watched him for the last 3 seasons and you won't get a fitter athlete on the pitch but surely he's holding us back in midfield. However, I think he'd be a superb rightback and has shown great discipline when filling this spot. Surely his future lies at RB but please no more midfield for Robbie as it's a waste which we can ill afford.
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i tend to agree
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Have to agree too
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I think he should work on his midfeild play before he goes to the defence because we already have Lane and Batts for RB. But I do agree with some of the other points
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He's 100% committed and 100% Altrincham but he's all over the place in Midfield I'm afraid. He runs around like a headless chicken and his positioning is nowhere at all. He barely gets a touch of the ball and I often see him drifting in the middle of nowhere. I've watched him for the last 3 seasons and you won't get a fitter athlete on the pitch but surely he's holding us back in midfield. However, I think he'd be a superb rightback and has shown great discipline when filling this spot. Surely his future lies at RB but please no more midfield for Robbie as it's a waste which we can ill afford.
Completely disagree I thought behind Denham he was our best player on Saturday. I think hes a good leader and is influencial in midfield
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He's 100% committed and 100% Altrincham but he's all over the place in Midfield I'm afraid. He runs around like a headless chicken and his positioning is nowhere at all. He barely gets a touch of the ball and I often see him drifting in the middle of nowhere. I've watched him for the last 3 seasons and you won't get a fitter athlete on the pitch but surely he's holding us back in midfield. However, I think he'd be a superb rightback and has shown great discipline when filling this spot. Surely his future lies at RB but please no more midfield for Robbie as it's a waste which we can ill afford.
Completely disagree I thought behind Denham he was our best player on Saturday. I think hes a good leader and is influencial in midfield
i reckon you are in the minority
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I agree, I think he's been a bit of a passenger in a few games this season.
I would start with Street and Danylyk against Stevenage. I think we need another centre midfielder.
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He's 100% committed and 100% Altrincham but he's all over the place in Midfield I'm afraid. He runs around like a headless chicken and his positioning is nowhere at all. He barely gets a touch of the ball and I often see him drifting in the middle of nowhere. I've watched him for the last 3 seasons and you won't get a fitter athlete on the pitch but surely he's holding us back in midfield. However, I think he'd be a superb rightback and has shown great discipline when filling this spot. Surely his future lies at RB but please no more midfield for Robbie as it's a waste which we can ill afford.
Completely disagree I thought behind Denham he was our best player on Saturday. I think hes a good leader and is influencial in midfield
I agree with this. I wouldn't have said he was ourbest player after denham but i do think it wasnt his worst game of the season. Probably one of his best so far.
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robbie lawton runs all day, he just needs to make the right decisions with his passing and that is to generally knock it short to someone who can pass.
The last game he just kept punting it forward more optimistic than expectant. We aren't gonna score goals if our forwards arent getting the service.
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However, I think he'd be a superb rightback and has shown great discipline when filling this spot.
He'd have to get in the queue behind Battersby and Lane though and I don't think he'd be better than either of those.
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Do you think he could do a job at centre half?
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Do you think he could do a job at centre half?
I would pick all of Young, McGregor and Lane ahead of Lawton at centre half so probably not.
Lawton's position is midfield. He'll never set the world alight but he'll always work hard and run his socks off. Whether or not he should play is a bit of a moot point because, like it or not, he is going to play if fit.
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Do you think he could do a job at centre half?
I would pick all of Young, McGregor and Lane ahead of Lawton at centre half so probably not.
Lawton's position is midfield. He'll never set the world alight but he'll always work hard and run his socks off. Whether or not he should play is a bit of a moot point because, like it or not, he is going to play if fit.
Agreed, always going to play when fit. I think Danylyk would be good to play next to him as he seems a decent passer. And if you watch Danylyk when we are attacking set pieces he just stands about 25/30 yeards out and just runs sideways picking up the ball and playing it out so we can attack again, which is just what we need as we never seemed to win the second ball. I really think we have unearthed a gem in him.
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I don't think we're flush with options in centre midfield to be honest. If we were I'd advocate pushing Robbie out onto the left wing which I thik he'd be good in.
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I don't think we're flush with options in centre midfield to be honest. If we were I'd advocate pushing Robbie out onto the left wing which I thik he'd be good in.
Ballers..have you gone mad?
I like Robbie Lawton in the centre to be honest but on the wing? He has hit me with more crosses than Colin Little
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was it only me that though ballers was joking. It seems everyone else is naming positions left right and centre (literally) so why not on the elft wing. ;)
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I can not fault Robbie Lawton's effort for the cause, but he's simply not up to it I'm afraid, what frustrates me so much is that he never even gets substituted - EVER!. Surely, even though he's captian, he can come off if he's not doing the business.
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was it only me that though ballers was joking. It seems everyone else is naming positions left right and centre (literally) so why not on the elft wing. ;)
i hope not..i hate falling for things like that, especially as I am rarely sarcastic myself.
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Robbie is one the better players in the team but last years position has been taken by Denham and I dont think Robbie would even argue this point.
It is funny how last year we all said Robbies best position is centre mid and now he becomes a passenger by all accounts ^^
I think Batts has been great at right back since getting in to the team and I feel sorry for Laney as well.
So we have Lane and Lawton on the bench, jeez it is a strange world.
Personally beyond commenting on everyone elses comments above I dont really have an opinion myself on the issue but perhaps he might make a great Goalkeeper, that way we can drop Coburn as well and kill two birds with one stone - RESULT !!!
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I have gone mad, as you well know. As if all of us weren't weird enough to start off with. ;)
However, And it may only be me who thinks this but Robbie Lawton is far better at running down the left wing than he is on the right. Some right footed players find it easier to do that (Danny Murphy or higher up Dumitrescu/Ginola). The technical reason I think is that with his right foot on the right wing his touch has to be more precise. On the left it's easier because you can drag the ball away from the defender and then use your body to block him.
Try running with a ball using your right foot, it's easier when the ball goes across your body than out to the side so to speak, and easier to then knock it straight forward with the outside of your foot thatn vice versa.
This doesn't make sense on a forum but I know what I mean.
I've always thought Robbie was good at driving down the left after a couple of charges in the Woking game we lost 2-3 and he's done it ona number of occasions since. The only time I can remember him charging effectively down the right was the 3-0 at home to Northwich
What I think we lack is someone to drive us on, make yardage. Sometimes we seem to be harried into giving the ball away beacues awe don't move anywhere and get closed down. I'd love to see Robbie steaming off and buying us some ground before we start playing the ball (I remember him doing this away at Oxford as the 5th midfielder in the 1-1). I'm not saying hug the touchline line like Jesper Olsen or something or float perfect Sholwer like crosses in, we've got 2 proper right wingers to do that now. Just to drive us on a bit more. He has seemed a bit lost in centre mid (which is his best position) recently going sideways across the pitch and not quite dominating the play.
But as said earlier, we don't have enough centre mid for this option. Also, and this could be evidence I really have gone cuckoo I wonder what he'd be like as an emergency centre forward, strong powerful and I bet he'd hold it up better faced with physical challenges than some other forwards we've had...
Anyone?...
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i think robbie would do best playing just off little, in the same way liverpool use gerrard just off torres (not saying they are the same standard or anything - i doubt torres is better than little ;)) that way he can drive forward and hold the ball up more for us. and i doubt some of the defenders in this league would enjoy playing against the physical pressance that robbie has.
plus it always works on football manager ;)
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I think every team needs a tireless runner in the centre of midfield otherwise we'd get over ran. I agree his passing isn't the best but I still think he should start and alongside Danylyk
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Maybe we should make up a new position for him, like how wing back was invented. Can anyone think of a newly invented position for Lawton.
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Robbie Lawton covers more of the pitch every game than the rest of both midfields put together do - but for no reason. Most of his efforts are spent running after the referee (Gary Neville style) complaining about every decision made. The rest of the time he's berating his fellow team mates for making 'errors'. If he spent 10% of the time he spent arguing with either the referee or his team mates concentrating on passing the ball to feet he would be a semi decent midfielder. As it stands unfortunately he is not a patch on Denham, Danlyk or Lawton and as for being the captain and a role model ...... ??? ???
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Robbie Lawton covers more of the pitch every game than the rest of both midfields put together do - but for no reason. Most of his efforts are spent running after the referee (Gary Neville style) complaining about every decision made. The rest of the time he's berating his fellow team mates for making 'errors'. If he spent 10% of the time he spent arguing with either the referee or his team mates concentrating on passing the ball to feet he would be a semi decent midfielder. As it stands unfortunately he is not a patch on Denham, Danlyk or Lawton and as for being the captain and a role model ...... ??? ???
Errrm, what?!
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Robbie Lawton covers more of the pitch every game than the rest of both midfields put together do - but for no reason. Most of his efforts are spent running after the referee (Gary Neville style) complaining about every decision made. The rest of the time he's berating his fellow team mates for making 'errors'. If he spent 10% of the time he spent arguing with either the referee or his team mates concentrating on passing the ball to feet he would be a semi decent midfielder. As it stands unfortunately he is not a patch on Denham, Danlyk or Lawton and as for being the captain and a role model ...... ??? ???
Your entitled to your view but thats a load of rubbish!
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Maybe we should make up a new position for him, like how wing back was invented. Can anyone think of a newly invented position for Lawton.
MANAGER ;) ;) ;)
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Robbie Lawton covers more of the pitch every game than the rest of both midfields put together do - but for no reason. Most of his efforts are spent running after the referee (Gary Neville style) complaining about every decision made. The rest of the time he's berating his fellow team mates for making 'errors'. If he spent 10% of the time he spent arguing with either the referee or his team mates concentrating on passing the ball to feet he would be a semi decent midfielder. As it stands unfortunately he is not a patch on Denham, Danlyk or Lawton and as for being the captain and a role model ...... ??? ???
Surely his ability to not be a path on hisself sets him apart from others.
I do wonder however whether Stan sees the same games as I do. It is doubtless a game of opinions and individual perceptions and all the better for that. However I think that he is a very good appointment as captain. The respect initiative allows Captains to talk to Referees but, irrespective of whether someone is captain or not, "running after" the Referee in the manner you suggest is an absolutely nailed on Yellow Card. The lack of (at least) one Yellow card per match suggests that you may be misinterpreting the situation.
Berating Teammates? Would you prefer that he didn't comment on the (sometimes) very obvious shortcomings of his team mates? I wouldn't.
May I be so bold as to suggest that you may be accused of holding Robbie Lawton in the same "esteem" as that in which Mr Needham holds Warren Peyton, probably both of you sharing the ability to demonstrate the same depth of vision as demonstrated by Nelsons eyepatch.
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Maybe we should make up a new position for him, like how wing back was invented. Can anyone think of a newly invented position for Lawton.
the Lawton Role, see the Makelele role but errr. for robbie.
its a sort of an 'deep attacking inside wide holding sweeper', which is certainly robbies best position.
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I have gone mad, as you well know. As if all of us weren't weird enough to start off with. ;)
Quote from Ballers "What I think we lack is someone to drive us on, make yardage."
I like this idea it could solve all our problems . After this all we will need is a decent Quarter Back. Robbie could play Wide Reciever and so get us easily into the End Zone.....Touchdown!! No problems.
Get the pitch re-marked and bring it on.
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the Lawton Role, see the Makelele role but errr. for robbie.
its a sort of an 'deep attacking inside wide holding sweeper', which is certainly robbies best position.
I think this would actually be a good posistion. And I'm not being joking
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I'm not being joking
Are you from India?
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He's a good leader. Fact.
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He's a good leader. Fact.
My worry is that he's not effective because he doesn't know where to be himself. At the moment we are one down in that position because he's not in the game. Yes, I've seen his passion but when he shouting the odds at others, he's not moving himself-fact-I've seen him do it over and over again. I've got to say I reckon Little would better lead and also direct Robbie on his positioning. Robbie could do alot in the right position as other here have already said.