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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on October 17, 2022, 12:21:14 PM
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Hoping Barrows and Conn-Clarke are available and Colclough can start. If all 3 start i think we'll win.
Gateshead 1-2 Alty (Dinanga, Mullarkey)
Good luck to all those traveling
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Yep, tough game against a good footballing team. If can get Coco on from start and CCC, then were in with a chance. Hopefully Toby back at CH. Good luck to all that travel.
COYR.
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Assuming Toby is back in the middle, I'd start James Jones ahead of Cooper.
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Byrne
Jackson Mullarkey Cooper E.J.
Lundstram
Osborne Malone
Conn-Clarke Dinanga Colclough
1-1. Either side to win it in ET.
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Having seen Saturday's match, I think Gateshead are a better team than us (with present available personnel).
I'd go 442 and lump it up to two target men. I think their 2 centre backs are even more vulnerable than ours.
Yes to Jacko at RB and Toby at CB.
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A question of the right mentality: we know we can beat them at their ground - no cause for complacency - so a positive attitude concentrating on OUR strengths and not theirs as we seemed to do in the 1st half on Saturday.
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Assuming Toby is back in the middle, I'd start James Jones ahead of Cooper.
I wouldnt
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Assuming Toby is back in the middle, I'd start James Jones ahead of Cooper.
I wouldnt
Seconded.
Jake Cooper's performance usually depends on the person alongside him.
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Id rather we resign John Cyrus than continue with Jones.
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Concussion protocol having been fulfilled, I'd be amazed if Barrows doesn't start.
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Yes Cooper didn't have his best 90 mins. Him and Mullarkey look like forming a decent partnership
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I'm sure Parky will put out the strongest team possible, I'll be listening on RR. Safe travels to all heading to the game tonight. COYR.
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If the worst happens, get down and watch The Nash v Cambridge from EFL1 First round proper! Be tough game. I guess any EFL DIV 1 side will be tough and well drilled! SBL
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will be on radio alty listening and in the RR(mixr) chatroom
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Good luck tonight lads.
If Coco can start then I fancy us…
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3-2 for Alty, great game, Alty passion wins through.
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Good luck tonight lads.
You can do it! 😉 🏆
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coco is on the bench,but hulme and dinanga start
https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FFfXwn0fWIAIuA7D.jpg%3Fname%3Dsmall
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1. Oliver Byrne, 22. Ross Barrows, 5. Toby Mullarkey (c), 26. James Jones, 2. Eddy Jones, 10. Elliot Osborne, 8. Josh Lundstram, 17. Brad Jackson, 16. Chris Conn-Clarke, 9. Jordan Hulme, 30. Marcus Dinanga.
Subs: 11. Ryan Colclough, 20. Aidan Roxburgh, 21. Matt Gould, 18. Ben Pringle, 23. Jake Cooper, 32. Zak Goodson, 33. Egli Kaja.
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1-0 behind
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2-0
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The 3 points in the league game there seem even more valuable now.
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Sorry but this is what the tactic of needlessly and endlessly passing the ball back to the goalkeeper inevitably leads to from time to time, as has been mentioned cost us that home game to Brackley a few years ago.
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2-1
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3-2 for Alty, great game, Alty passion wins through.
Well Gateshead are sticking to their side of the bargain so far.
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DDDDDDDDDDDDD
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The team selection and tactics in the first game lost this tie.
They are not a good team.
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Agreed. Ballsed it up on Saturday.
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The team selection and tactics in the first game lost this tie.
They are not a good team.
Precisely!
We concentrated on their strengths and not our own.
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
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Gutted >:(
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
can't wait to play them again the FA cup next year ... I feel sorry for the younger fans
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Well done to all those who travelled tonight. We definitely need to get back on track Saturday for the late kickoff against Torquay who had winger da silva sent off tonight in their game in the FA cup.
Cmon Alty
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
can't wait to play them again the FA cup next year ... I feel sorry for the younger fans
Don't forget the FA Trophy this year!!!
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
can't wait to play them again the FA cup next year ... I feel sorry for the younger fans
Who needs the FA Cup when we've got a sparkling Fan Zone?
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
can't wait to play them again the FA cup next year ... I feel sorry for the younger fans
Don't forget the FA Trophy this year!!!
Nah-that’ll somehow be either Stockport County or BPA.
Frustrating to lose but I do think in the relegation fight both sides will be in that our 3 points there two weeks ago will count for far more in April, when losing 1-3 at home to Stevenage would have long been forgotten about. I just worry now about the ridiculous amount of travel we have to do this week with Saturdays key game down at Torquay and if Toby M coming off injured is serious. The return of Kaja off the bench a major plus point tonight on the flip side.
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Groundhog FA cup tie(s)
Screwed if Mullarkey is out for a couple of weeks
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
can't wait to play them again the FA cup next year ... I feel sorry for the younger fans
Who needs the FA Cup when we've got a sparkling Fan Zone?
this is excellent news will it have locally sourced quality real ales from local traders ?
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Groundhog FA cup tie(s)
Screwed if Mullarkey is out for a couple of weeks
Well RR said he had to be carried down the tunnel as he couldn’t put any weight on his leg so that does not sound good at all to me😕
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Groundhog FA cup tie(s)
Screwed if Mullarkey is out for a couple of weeks
Well RR said he had to be carried down the tunnel as he couldn’t put any weight on his leg so that does not sound good at all to me😕
Toby posted off to hospital, huge open gash on the front of his ankle. Will need stitches by looks of it... Jordan was staying with him. Not good
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Comedy of errors in 2 minutes and we give the game away again due to basic individual mistakes. So frustrating when we were in complete control for the first 30 mins. I hope Toby won’t be out, otherwise it’s Jones & Cooper with no back up. Any news on Baines? Good to see Kaja come on, I hope we keep him fit. 5 for Dinanga… Could hit double figure before December! He’s certainly silenced many critics!
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Kyle Ferguson has barely kicked a ball in the last few weeks at Harrogate. Bearing in mind the impact he had when we signed him last season, it would be good if we could get him back here, even if it's only a loan.
Ditto Alistair Smith at Sutton, but easier said than done.
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Kyle Ferguson has barely kicked a ball in the last few weeks at Harrogate. Bearing in mind the impact he had when we signed him last season, it would be good if we could get him back here, even if it's only a loan.
Ditto Alistair Smith at Sutton, but easier said than done.
Ferguson is a great shout. I’ve seen the photo of Toby’s ankle from last night & it’s not pretty. No chance for Torquay I’d think and Oldham must be in doubt too. The next two league games in particular are too important not to get added and experienced CB cover in.
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Kyle Ferguson has barely kicked a ball in the last few weeks at Harrogate. Bearing in mind the impact he had when we signed him last season, it would be good if we could get him back here, even if it's only a loan.
Ditto Alistair Smith at Sutton, but easier said than done.
Ferguson is a great shout. I’ve seen the photo of Toby’s ankle from last night & it’s not pretty. No chance for Torquay I’d think and Oldham must be in doubt too. The next two league games in particular are too important not to get added and experienced CB cover in.
I hadn't realised that both Ferguson and Smith weren't playing for their respective clubs - Smith in particular I thought had been doing really well there.
Ferguson would be a great signing on loan for a month, although I suppose a lot depends on how far away Lewis Baines is from a return.
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As mentioned amongst our WhatsApp chat, billy sass davies and Ferguson both not picking up much game time. 2 big 6 pointers await.
Smith back would be excellent but not where our focus needs to be urgently, although we've lost Bennet for a while
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Let's just get the whole gang back together...
Senior at right back, Ferguson and Sass-Davies at centre half, Harry Perritt and Alistair Smith in midfield...
We'll be unstoppable!
On a more serious note, I really wouldn't mind any f these players back to be honest.
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Well, that was hugely disappointing.
That abysmal second half (described on Radio Robins) sounded about as exciting as listening to Liz Truss give a press conference.
Yet another FA Cup flop for Parkinson, I'm afraid.
can't wait to play them again the FA cup next year ... I feel sorry for the younger fans
Don't forget the FA Trophy this year!!!
Nah-that’ll somehow be either Stockport County or BPA.
Frustrating to lose but I do think in the relegation fight both sides will be in that our 3 points there two weeks ago will count for far more in April, when losing 1-3 at home to Stevenage would have long been forgotten about. I just worry now about the ridiculous amount of travel we have to do this week with Saturdays key game down at Torquay and if Toby M coming off injured is serious. The return of Kaja off the bench a major plus point tonight on the flip side.
Well, we inflicted all of that extra travelling this week on ourselves by failing to win a home FA Cup tie.
On the evidence to date, managing to get Kaja fit for two or three consecutive games looks like representing a major challenge.
Perhaps those three league points gained at Gateshead will prove to be ultra precious by the time that the season concludes but also winning an FA Cup tie there is not mutually exclusive and last evening constituted yet another miserable chapter in what is becoming an increasingly barren FA Cup record.
Merely a solitary victory over a Football League club in the last 25 years is hardly the stuff of FA Cup legend and, for the second season in succession, we've opened the door for Gateshead to boost their finances and potentially strengthen their squad.
For the past few years, people on this forum have bemoaned our sequence of FA Cup away draws. Then we get presented with Stevenage at home and somehow they are not really deemed as being worthy of our time and attention.
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As mentioned amongst our WhatsApp chat, billy sass davies and Ferguson both not picking up much game time. 2 big 6 pointers await.
Smith back would be excellent but not where our focus needs to be urgently, although we've lost Bennet for a while
Bennett's due to leave at the end of the month anyway, so I suspect that's the last we've seen of him.
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Sorry, moving this over to this thread:
We were on top without creating too much in the first 30 minutes.
There was then a horrific five-minute spell chock full of individual mistakes. Heads fell off. We're fully into the swing of the season and we're still showing indecision and misunderstanding. It's not acceptable.
Dinanga got us back into it (offside by all accounts) and I really thought we'd kick on in the second half but we looked tired and completely out of ideas.
Having a read around, I appear to be in a minority of fans who came away from it very worried, and furious that we have thrown away another season's attempt at an FA Cup run.
Not having that Gateshead are a good side either. They were kak.
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Sorry, moving this over to this thread:
We were on top without creating too much in the first 30 minutes.
There was then a horrific five-minute spell chock full of individual mistakes. Heads fell off. We're fully into the swing of the season and we're still showing indecision and misunderstanding. It's not acceptable.
Dinanga got us back into it (offside by all accounts) and I really thought we'd kick on in the second half but we looked tired and completely out of ideas.
Having a read around, I appear to be in a minority of fans who came away from it very worried, and furious that we have thrown away another season's attempt at an FA Cup run.
Not having that Gateshead are a good side either. They were kak.
Not heard that word in a while "Kak" love it. I'll go by your valued opinion as not there last night. It is frustrating were still making basic mistakes, that cost us last night. Maybe we'll see the goals at some point and see the debacle for ourselves. Looking tired is a worry. Another long trip on Friday...
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Let's just get the whole gang back together...
Senior at right back, Ferguson and Sass-Davies at centre half, Harry Perritt and Alistair Smith in midfield...
We'll be unstoppable!
On a more serious note, I really wouldn't mind any f these players back to be honest.
Any player that goes on to better opportunities; then becomes available, I see no reason to not try and bring back into the fold.
ex-players who've bundled about the league less so.
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Sorry, moving this over to this thread:
We were on top without creating too much in the first 30 minutes.
There was then a horrific five-minute spell chock full of individual mistakes. Heads fell off. We're fully into the swing of the season and we're still showing indecision and misunderstanding. It's not acceptable.
Dinanga got us back into it (offside by all accounts) and I really thought we'd kick on in the second half but we looked tired and completely out of ideas.
Having a read around, I appear to be in a minority of fans who came away from it very worried, and furious that we have thrown away another season's attempt at an FA Cup run.
Not having that Gateshead are a good side either. They were kak.
I can assure you that you are not alone in both your concern and dismay, as evinced by my previous post (and at least I didn't have the misfortune to trek all the way to Gateshead in order to witness yet another underwhelming FA Cup exit!).
We do seem to have an alarming propensity to concede goals in short bursts:
(i) two goals in a matter of five minutes against Chesterfield;
(ii) two goals in six minutes at Solihull Moors;
(iii) two goals in four minutes versus SC**thorpe United;
(iv) two goals in four minutes at Dagenham & Redbridge;
(v) two goals in two minutes at Gateshead last night.
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Notts County can be added to the list
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Notts County can be added to the list
Indeed, I overlooked that one.
Two goals conceded in a matter of just two minutes there.
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This is beyond mortifying:
https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640 (https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640)
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This is beyond mortifying:
https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640 (https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640)
Jesus.
Gateshead really do have a knack of leaving us feeling rock bottom, don't they? At least there's hoping the win in the league is the one that ultimately matters.
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This is beyond mortifying:
https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640 (https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640)
Shockingly bad..
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This is beyond mortifying:
https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640 (https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640)
1.38 anyone ?? https://youtu.be/Eozl0FIkCps Worse than Sunday league that and to endure it twice in 2 years as well
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What on earth is Byrne playing at? Absolutely ludicrous.
It’s interesting to me to compare the reaction to that howler to the one Mee committed at Maidenhead. I’m not saying people should be piling in on Byrne now but he does seem to get an easier ride from Alty fans than other keepers.
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Byrne probably cocked it up because he never expected to get the ball when support was literally screaming for it right next to the passing player.
Not defending him, but I know that is all I can think about.
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I agree with what others say that we insist in passing it back and forward along the back line. It no longer works. 1. Because clubs have now sussed it and press higher
2. More worryingly is the fact that we are no bloody good at it.
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This is beyond mortifying:
https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640 (https://twitter.com/GatesheadFC/status/1582716003456368640)
Dear me. Can't wait to watch the other one
As has been mentioned if that had been Mee the forum would be in melt down
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Byrne probably cocked it up because he never expected to get the ball when support was literally screaming for it right next to the passing player.
Not defending him, but I know that is all I can think about.
exactly has to be one of the sh*ttest back passes I have ever seen . Should never have been put in that position
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The fact that people are somehow contriving to blame Mullarkey for that goal rather proves my point about how Byrne can seemingly do no wrong.
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Toby had done the hardwork and the ball should have been sent up the pitch.
We concede, and put ourselves under so much pressure often in games with going back to the keeper. It is just a pointless risk in my eyes, unless you have 4 defenders good enough.
No idea what Byrne was trying to do. Very strange.
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The fact that people are somehow contriving to blame Mullarkey for that goal rather proves my point about how Byrne can seemingly do no wrong.
In fairness both are equally to blame; Toby could have played a 5 yard pass, put it out, launched it long.
Ollie Byrnes slip turns Tobys mistake in to a problem.
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The ball was not played to his feet it was curling you can see it clearly on the second part of the footage. Awful decision to play it back and piss around with the ball
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Byrne looks like he is attempting some bizarre breakdancing move.
An utter farce.
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Byrne looks like he is attempting some bizarre breakdancing move.
An utter farce.
ha ha that cheered me up . A failed back spin perhaps
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The fact that people are somehow contriving to blame Mullarkey for that goal rather proves my point about how Byrne can seemingly do no wrong.
In fairness both are equally to blame; Toby could have played a 5 yard pass, put it out, launched it long.
Ollie Byrnes slip turns Tobys mistake in to a problem.
Equally to blame? Really? I’d say Mullarkey was 10% at fault for the goal at most. It wasn’t a great backpass but Byrne easily gets to it first, only to usher it past him like a matador avoiding a bull. If Byrne had just cleared it with his right foot, as any pro keeper should be able to do, there would have been no issue whatsoever.
And I don’t think he does slip. He falls over trying to kick the ball with the wrong foot,
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The fact that people are somehow contriving to blame Mullarkey for that goal rather proves my point about how Byrne can seemingly do no wrong.
In fairness both are equally to blame; Toby could have played a 5 yard pass, put it out, launched it long.
Ollie Byrnes slip turns Tobys mistake in to a problem.
Equally to blame? Really? I’d say Mullarkey was 10% at fault for the goal at most. It wasn’t a great backpass but Byrne easily gets to it first, only to usher it past him like a matador avoiding a bull. If Byrne had just cleared it with his right foot, as any pro keeper should be able to do, there would have been no issue whatsoever.
And I don’t think he does slip. He falls over trying to kick the ball with the wrong foot,
Toby should never have gone back in that situation. If he went down the line then the whole mess wouldn't have occurred.
Byrne was really poor aswell.
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It's totally bizarre. To me it looks like Byrne was going down to handle it and then realises it's a backpass.
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Wow, it was not a good back pass, but should have been dealt with by Byrne. That said Barrows should have covered as well. So for me it's mainly Ollies fault
For their second we need to defend though balls better, there guy was in acres of space unmarked. Ball seemed to go under Ollie as well, so not good from a GK view either.
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Wow, it was not a good back pass, but should have been dealt with by Byrne. That said Barrows should have covered as well. So for me it's mainly Ollies fault
For their second we need to defend though balls better, there guy was in acres of space unmarked. Ball seemed to go under Ollie as well, so not good from a GK view either.
TBH Ollie’s judgement is usually spot on so he’s entitled to a rare slip.
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Highlights of the Gateshead FA Cup calamity here (for those of a strong disposition):
https://youtu.be/DVzyqz77VEQ (https://youtu.be/DVzyqz77VEQ)
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Byrne should be dealing with that back pass, it was poor but it wasn't a hospital ball. He's right footed tooAgree that Mee was suffering from an age-old case of Alty Scapegoatitis and would have been crucified for similar.
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Sadly, the second goal was clearly onside. Good decision by the referee's assistant.
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Equally, if not more concerned by whatever that so-called defending for the 2nd goal was. Abject.
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Parkinson issues an apology for the FA Cup washout at Gateshead:
https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/ (https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/)
Interesting quote:
"This defeat will have ramifications for certain people."
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Parkinson issues an apology for the FA Cup washout at Gateshead:
https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/ (https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/)
Interesting quote:
"This defeat will have ramifications for certain people."
Careful, we dont need to make changes after a poor defeat
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Parkinson issues an apology for the FA Cup washout at Gateshead:
https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/ (https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/)
Interesting quote:
"This defeat will have ramifications for certain people."
Careful, we dont need to make changes after a poor defeat
These mistakes keep happening. They need to improve or be replaced with players that improve the team. Parky will need to decide. I can see Mr Gould stepping in..
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Parkinson issues an apology for the FA Cup washout at Gateshead:
https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/ (https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/)
Interesting quote:
"This defeat will have ramifications for certain people."
Careful, we dont need to make changes after a poor defeat
These mistakes keep happening. They need to improve or be replaced with players that improve the team. Parky will need to decide. I can see Mr Gould stepping in..
You can see our first choice goalkeeper, who has been good up to that point, being replaced?
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Parkinson issues an apology for the FA Cup washout at Gateshead:
https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/ (https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/)
Interesting quote:
"This defeat will have ramifications for certain people."
Careful, we dont need to make changes after a poor defeat
These mistakes keep happening. They need to improve or be replaced with players that improve the team. Parky will need to decide. I can see Mr Gould stepping in..
You can see our first choice goalkeeper, who has been good up to that point, being replaced?
Unfortunately, it needs to be a consideration for the management, it's a close call between knocking confidence and showing that no place is safe, there are also defensive considerations to look at. Barrows should have done better for both goals as should the rest of the defence. Parky and Sorvs need to progress things and they need to make that decision whom is benched or keeps their place. Thats my opinion.
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Parkinson issues an apology for the FA Cup washout at Gateshead:
https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/ (https://www.messengernewspapers.co.uk/sport/23060417.parkinson-apologises-fans-gateshead-replay-exit/)
Interesting quote:
"This defeat will have ramifications for certain people."
Careful, we dont need to make changes after a poor defeat
These mistakes keep happening. They need to improve or be replaced with players that improve the team. Parky will need to decide. I can see Mr Gould stepping in..
You can see our first choice goalkeeper, who has been good up to that point, being replaced?
If I turn up tomorrow at Torquay and we havent started Byrne, I won't leave the pub
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You can't be dropping Byrne for 1 (90% his fault) fuk up.
Osborne would only play every other game if you applied that logic all over the pitch!
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I can't believe for one second the people that were being talked about by Phil was Byrne... He's head and shoulders the best keeper at the club.
Plenty of others within the squad who should be asking if they have done enough in their appearances to warrant keeping their place.
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What on earth is Byrne playing at? Absolutely ludicrous.
It’s interesting to me to compare the reaction to that howler to the one Mee committed at Maidenhead. I’m not saying people should be piling in on Byrne now but he does seem to get an easier ride from Alty fans than other keepers.
Apply the same logic, in that case, to Toby Mullarkey please.
I love him as much as everyone else but he's played a no-look backpass, across his left-footed keeper, straight into a dangerous area. He also had the opportunity to clear it down the line with his own weaker foot a mere matter of seconds prior to that - but opted not to do so.
Byrne failed to deal with the situation... however Toby created it. We said the same thing with Mee regarding the bizarre backpass he received himself.
Are we SERIOUSLY discussing dropping Byrne after that? Lord, give me strength.
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What on earth is Byrne playing at? Absolutely ludicrous.
It’s interesting to me to compare the reaction to that howler to the one Mee committed at Maidenhead. I’m not saying people should be piling in on Byrne now but he does seem to get an easier ride from Alty fans than other keepers.
Apply the same logic, in that case, to Toby Mullarkey please.
I love him as much as everyone else but he's played a no-look backpass, across his left-footed keeper, straight into a dangerous area. He also had the opportunity to clear it down the line with his own weaker foot a mere matter of seconds prior to that - but opted not to do so.
Byrne failed to deal with the situation... however Toby created it. We said the same thing with Mee regarding the bizarre backpass he received himself.
Are we SERIOUSLY discussing dropping Byrne after that? Lord, give me strength.
I'm not sure I understand what point you're asking me to make (or indeed why you're asking me to make it rather than just making it yourself).
What I was saying was that Byrne seems to have attracted weirdly little criticism for a horrendous mistake, which wouldn't have been true of other, less popular players. Toby has received plenty of criticism for his part in it so 'the same logic' can't be applied.
I've already given my view of the incident. I'll add that Toby was at least trying to retain possession, which, for better or worse is the Alty way. You seem to think he should have hoofed it up the line or out of touch. Maybe that's right but it would not have been the Alty way. What Byrne was trying to do is anyone's guess.
I have not called for Byrne to be dropped.
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There is now an interview from Parky available. Sound very down on the evening. Make of it what you will..
https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/phil-parkinson-altrincham-v-gateshead-fa-cup-4qr-replay-post-match-interview
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I've already given my view of the incident. I'll add that Toby was at least trying to retain possession, which, for better or worse is the Alty way. You seem to think he should have hoofed it up the line or out of touch.
He was by the left hand touchline playing the ball into an area where he would reasonably expect to be. Where’s the logic in that? Yes, hoofing it upfield or into touch would have been infinitely more sensible.
Additionally, for the second goal his time attempting to catch the goalscorer was spent slowing down to a trot whilst appealing to the linesman for offside.
Both Mullarkey and JJones were better players alongside Hannigan and I suspect they continue to need that knowledgable old head. They cannot succeed alongside each other.
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cannot afford defensive cocks up like that. Comedy of errors. SBL
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What on earth is Byrne playing at? Absolutely ludicrous.
It’s interesting to me to compare the reaction to that howler to the one Mee committed at Maidenhead. I’m not saying people should be piling in on Byrne now but he does seem to get an easier ride from Alty fans than other keepers.
Apply the same logic, in that case, to Toby Mullarkey please.
I love him as much as everyone else but he's played a no-look backpass, across his left-footed keeper, straight into a dangerous area. He also had the opportunity to clear it down the line with his own weaker foot a mere matter of seconds prior to that - but opted not to do so.
Byrne failed to deal with the situation... however Toby created it. We said the same thing with Mee regarding the bizarre backpass he received himself.
Are we SERIOUSLY discussing dropping Byrne after that? Lord, give me strength.
I'm not sure I understand what point you're asking me to make (or indeed why you're asking me to make it rather than just making it yourself).
What I was saying was that Byrne seems to have attracted weirdly little criticism for a horrendous mistake, which wouldn't have been true of other, less popular players. Toby has received plenty of criticism for his part in it so 'the same logic' can't be applied.
I've already given my view of the incident. I'll add that Toby was at least trying to retain possession, which, for better or worse is the Alty way. You seem to think he should have hoofed it up the line or out of touch. Maybe that's right but it would not have been the Alty way. What Byrne was trying to do is anyone's guess.
I have not called for Byrne to be dropped.
Sorry but I think you're trying to create a wedge issue between us all that simply doesn't exist.
If people have 'given Bryne an easier ride', it's because he hasn't done anything wrong... until Tuesday night, at which point he's (rightly) been criticised by the majority of fans that have seen the incident.
To say that Mee took all the flak for his own howler is also not true. Most of us felt for the lad, a young goalkeeper having something like that happen to him so early in his first game... psychologically it's a long way back after something like that, and I'm sorry to say that we didn't look confident with him between the sticks.
Speaking of confidence, Byrne is commanding and from what I've seen, I'd back him to get over Tuesday night quicker than Mee ever would.
What's quite galling is that the two players involved are the two that have delivered the most consistently strong performances for us so far this season.
I think that's what's frustrating Parky - that nobody is seemingly above these brain farts (and goal concession clusters) - and as a collective, we need to learn and cut them out pretty sharpish.
Re: Toby's part in the incident - call me old school, but I do like a left footer in the left channel and I don't think Baines would have hesitated to put his foot through that. You talk of the 'Alty Way' but Baines looks like the no nonsense type - and maybe that's what we need.
I think him & Toby together would be decent.
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What on earth is Byrne playing at? Absolutely ludicrous.
It’s interesting to me to compare the reaction to that howler to the one Mee committed at Maidenhead. I’m not saying people should be piling in on Byrne now but he does seem to get an easier ride from Alty fans than other keepers.
Apply the same logic, in that case, to Toby Mullarkey please.
I love him as much as everyone else but he's played a no-look backpass, across his left-footed keeper, straight into a dangerous area. He also had the opportunity to clear it down the line with his own weaker foot a mere matter of seconds prior to that - but opted not to do so.
Byrne failed to deal with the situation... however Toby created it. We said the same thing with Mee regarding the bizarre backpass he received himself.
Are we SERIOUSLY discussing dropping Byrne after that? Lord, give me strength.
I'm not sure I understand what point you're asking me to make (or indeed why you're asking me to make it rather than just making it yourself).
What I was saying was that Byrne seems to have attracted weirdly little criticism for a horrendous mistake, which wouldn't have been true of other, less popular players. Toby has received plenty of criticism for his part in it so 'the same logic' can't be applied.
I've already given my view of the incident. I'll add that Toby was at least trying to retain possession, which, for better or worse is the Alty way. You seem to think he should have hoofed it up the line or out of touch. Maybe that's right but it would not have been the Alty way. What Byrne was trying to do is anyone's guess.
I have not called for Byrne to be dropped.
Sorry but I think you're trying to create a wedge issue between us all that simply doesn't exist.
If people have 'given Bryne an easier ride', it's because he hasn't done anything wrong... until Tuesday night, at which point he's (rightly) been criticised by the majority of fans that have seen the incident.
To say that Mee took all the flak for his own howler is also not true. Most of us felt for the lad, a young goalkeeper having something like that happen to him so early in his first game... psychologically it's a long way back after something like that, and I'm sorry to say that we didn't look confident with him between the sticks.
Speaking of confidence, Byrne is commanding and from what I've seen, I'd back him to get over Tuesday night quicker than Mee ever would.
What's quite galling is that the two players involved are the two that have delivered the most consistently strong performances for us so far this season.
I think that's what's frustrating Parky - that nobody is seemingly above these brain farts (and goal concession clusters) - and as a collective, we need to learn and cut them out pretty sharpish.
Re: Toby's part in the incident - call me old school, but I do like a left footer in the left channel and I don't think Baines would have hesitated to put his foot through that. You talk of the 'Alty Way' but Baines looks like the no nonsense type - and maybe that's what we need.
I think him & Toby together would be decent.
Good post.
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I think Parkinson and the board got mote criticism than Mee, for Mee
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As a footnote I see Gateshead bowed out today 2-3 to Stevenage in front of a whopping 1,039 fans including 139 from Stevenage. Doesn’t excuse our limp exit but certainly gave me a cheer this afternoon.
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As a footnote I see Gateshead bowed out today 2-3 to Stevenage in front of a whopping 1,039 fans including 139 from Stevenage. Doesn’t excuse our limp exit but certainly gave me a cheer this afternoon.
Unsustainable for a club at this level; pitiful...and a little bit funny!
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Bottom of the league
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Bottom of the league
And only 5 points behind us with a better goal difference and a game in hand. If that isn't ringing any alarm bells, it damn well should be !
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Bottom of the league
And only 5 points behind us with a better goal difference and a game in hand. If that isn't ringing any alarm bells, it damn well should be !
It is with me!