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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on January 18, 2024, 09:37:09 AM
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If Ross is fit hes back in. Only choice is Newby or Amaluzor
The rest pick themselves.
Southend 1-1 Alty (Newby (pen))
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Yeah, last two league games we’ve gone toe to toe with two of the top three so no big changes required. Amaluzor was excellent in the home game vs Sarfend so one to consider certainly. Be a really tough game with their large home support & ownership situation now gradually resolved so they’ll be buoyant. Dackers no doubt extra motivated after his loan spell here too even though he just faded away really after a good start. Though they’ll be saying the same about Mooney of course.
Huge trek at this time of year when everyone is skint so hopefully the usual Southern exiles can pad out our numbers. 172 at Chessy in the snow was solid on Tuesday night to be fair. I’d take a point which would set us up nicely for 2 big home games next week. Final point with this cold snap, hope their pitch is not too frozen as presume we’ll be travelling on Friday.
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Same XI for me - although I wouldn't be surprised if the management tinker.
After the performance on Tuesday night we should definitely be back to 'let them worry about us' mode, which I'll admit I wavered from after the excellent Gatshead result earlier this season.
The sun is set to shine on Southend all of Friday and isn't due to drop back down below freezing overnight going into Saturday, so the pitch should be absolutely fine I would have thought.
Four points from this one and Rochdale please.
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Yes, 4 points from these top and I'd be really confident about the play offs.
Surely it's Amaluzor or Mooney (on the right) with Newby a cert for the left?
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If Ross is fit hes back in. Only choice is Newby or Amaluzor
The rest pick themselves.
Southend 1-1 Alty (Newby (pen))
I would say Newby has been our most consistent wide player for a fair few games.
Think the choice would be Mooney or Amaluzor.
Mooney was probably the only one on Tuesday who didn’t really get into the game ( apart from the subs ).
If fit, then I would start Amaluzor, but he needs step up his performances.
No reason why we can’t go and get all 3 points.
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If Ross is fit hes back in. Only choice is Newby or Amaluzor
The rest pick themselves.
Southend 1-1 Alty (Newby (pen))
Actually meant Mooney or Amaluzour
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Southend fans are none too confident this will go ahead. Like us they've got a chunk of pitch in front of one of the stands that stays in shadow and remains frozen.
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If we don't play Mooney against the team that he's just abandoned so he can score the winner and cause a merry hell, I'd be very surprised
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If we don't play Mooney against the team that he's just abandoned so he can score the winner and cause a merry hell, I'd be very surprised
Really hope it works out that way Amsterdam! 😉
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Southend fans are none too confident this will go ahead. Like us they've got a chunk of pitch in front of one of the stands that stays in shadow and remains frozen.
Unlike the past few nights it's not due to drop below freezing between now and kick off, therefore as long as it's playable as things stand, I'm sure it will go ahead.
Justin Donawa is on Parky's Instagram team photos, so maybe we can expect his name to re-appear on the sub's bench (fingers crossed). Hope he can get fit for the rest of the season.
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Am down in Essex now and air temperature is barely above freezing and clear skies so likely a heavy frost again tonight on top if what already seems pretty frozen
Is there any indication of the time of any pitch inspection ?
Suspect it will need to be early to allow notice to be given to us travelling fans
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I assume the squad will have travelled down tonight too so we probably will lose out now even if it is called off....judging from what I've been reading from Southend fans we'd be very lucky to be actually playing tomorrow.
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Am down in Essex now and air temperature is barely above freezing and clear skies so likely a heavy frost again tonight on top if what already seems pretty frozen
Is there any indication of the time of any pitch inspection ?
Suspect it will need to be early to allow notice to be given to us travelling fans
Strongly worded statement:
https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/pitch-inspection-at-southend-tomorrow-morning (https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/pitch-inspection-at-southend-tomorrow-morning)
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Very strong statement from the club, and quite right if we're looking at a £5000 loss for nothing. Especially if Southend have been assuring us that there was no danger of it being off all week only to announce an inspection tomorrow morning. Not only is it unfair on the team and supporters but I'm sure there'll be a number of Southend fans put out by a potentially late postponement too.
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What I find odd is that their home game on Tuesday gone vs Wealdstone was PP because of a frozen pitch & I can’t imagine since then the temperatures have got significantly warmer down there, so surely there was always a strong doubt re tomorrow. Especially if you read their forum with a large part of the pitch under a shadow from one of the stands. So not to say a word all day today then slip that out at 7pm tonight what they must have known early this morning is a poor do.
I guarantee if this was the other way round we’d have tons of Southend fans all over our Twitter calling us tinpot bar stewards. Anyway, we live in hope it may still be on but if not at least we’ll be as fresh as Rochdale for the big TV local derby on Tuesday night.
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The min temp down there from now until ranges from plus 2 degrees up to 5 degs by kick off. No frost at all so I would suggest that the chances of the game going ahead is pretty good.
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tbf a decent number of Southend fans have been on twitter calling it bullsh*t
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What’s happening to the update re inspection .. there is f**k all the websites .. not very good really
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Postponed
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It's off. Shoddy Southend.
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Following this morning's pitch inspection (see below) the Southend United v Altrincham game the Shrimpers have tweeted that "Today's Vanarama National League game against Altrincham has been postponed".
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It's off. Shoddy Southend.
If the coach left as planned they should be just about at Milton Keynes when they find this out.
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I thought Southend were marvellous at our place earlier in the season and their fans are a good lot but seriously, the people who are running the club sound like a bunch of k*** h****
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The upside is we will be fresh for the appearance of Rochdale. We need three points on Tuesday
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Hey Alty fans - Shrimper in peace. Really sorry for the bloody irritating late postponement today. There has to be a better way than this - its not on that people waste their day and their money for nothing all because of a tinpot bloody numpty local ref.
All I'll say is there are fumes coming out of Roots Hall at the local ref who called the game off, and plenty of digs / hints that the pitch is fine on our official Twitter account (see below). Note that our full first team squad are training on the pitch today - these videos were taken an hour ago, and you can see they are using right up to the end of the pitch by the South Stand - the supposedly hardest bit to defrost.
Where the hell do we get these local busybody prats from?? What qualifies local league refs to be experts on ground temperatures / thawing etc?
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748686538890760439?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748686538890760439?s=20)
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748688249311117805?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748688249311117805?s=20)
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748692354540728682?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748692354540728682?s=20)
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748695652337381539?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748695652337381539?s=20)
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Hey Alty fans - Shrimper in peace. Really sorry for the bloody irritating late postponement today. There has to be a better way than this - its not on that people waste their day and their money for nothing all because of a tinpot bloody numpty local ref.
All I'll say is there are fumes coming out of Roots Hall at the local ref who called the game off, and plenty of digs / hints that the pitch is fine on our official Twitter account (see below). Note that our full first team squad are training on the pitch today - these videos were taken an hour ago, and you can see they are using right up to the end of the pitch by the South Stand - the supposedly hardest bit to defrost.
Where the hell do we get these local busybody prats from?? What qualifies local league refs to be experts on ground temperatures / thawing etc?
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748686538890760439?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748686538890760439?s=20)
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748688249311117805?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748688249311117805?s=20)
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748692354540728682?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748692354540728682?s=20)
https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748695652337381539?s=20 (https://x.com/SUFCRootsHall/status/1748695652337381539?s=20)
The pitch certainly looks playable from those clips but the big issue is the timing of the inspection. If it'd been done when it should have been done, ie yesterday lunchtime, then the team and the fans wouldn't have wasted their time and money.
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It hasn’t had freezing temps there for over 24 hrs now it would have been ok to play on it. They are taking the piss
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The pitch certainly looks playable from those clips but the big issue is the timing of the inspection. If it'd been done when it should have been done, ie yesterday lunchtime, then the team and the fans wouldn't have wasted their time and money.
I don't agree I'm afraid. The issue is not calling it off as early as possible, it is fulfilling the fixture if possible. Today it was clearly possible, but an idiot local ref showed his inexperience.
It is the responsibility of clubs to fulfil fixtures, first and foremost, not to call them off all the time if there is a bit of bad weather - postponing by default.
The local ref clearly got it very wrong today.
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If the covers had been taken off yesterday it would have helped. Let the (non freezing) air get at it for all of yesterday and this morning would have helped. In situations like this where a team has to travel the day before it should have been inspected last night at the latest
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The pitch certainly looks playable from those clips but the big issue is the timing of the inspection. If it'd been done when it should have been done, ie yesterday lunchtime, then the team and the fans wouldn't have wasted their time and money.
I don't agree I'm afraid. The issue is not calling it off as early as possible, it is fulfilling the fixture if possible. Today it was clearly possible, but an idiot local ref showed his inexperience.
It is the responsibility of clubs to fulfil fixtures, first and foremost, not to call them off all the time if there is a bit of bad weather - postponing by default.
The local ref clearly got it very wrong today.
And I'm afraid you and the club have got it badly wrong today by simply assuming that your view of the playability of the pitch would be shared by the referee.
The simple fact is that any pitch inspection should be made at a time which shows consideration for the opposition's team and fans. To do it at 10.30 today was an absolute joke.
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And I'm afraid you and the club have got it badly wrong today by simply assuming that your view of the playability of the pitch would be shared by the referee.
The simple fact is that any pitch inspection should be made at a time which shows consideration for the opposition's team and fans. To do it at 10.30 today was an absolute joke.
Ok mate - you've decided Southend must be wrong, no matter what, and nothing will change your mind. It doesn't make you right though.
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And I'm afraid you and the club have got it badly wrong today by simply assuming that your view of the playability of the pitch would be shared by the referee.
The simple fact is that any pitch inspection should be made at a time which shows consideration for the opposition's team and fans. To do it at 10.30 today was an absolute joke.
Ok mate - you've decided Southend must be wrong, no matter what, and nothing will change your mind. It doesn't make you right though.
And you've come on here to try to exonerate SUFC of any blame for this fiasco by throwing the local ref under the bus. You've not exactly exhibited a willingness to consider differing viewpoints yourself.
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What is tricky to understand about our team training on the pitch, videos of the pitch - all playable and hours before the match was due to take place? In other words, it was playable. I think that's a point worth highlighting, and that's all I've done. That is evidenced quite clearly via the links on my post. Anyway, I've said what I needed to, so that's me done.
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to be fair it happened at Yeovil last season.I drove up there(from Devon) after checking at 12 noon the game was on only for it to be called off by the time i arrived at 1400ish after stopping off for fish and chips.I think that we were also told that players were training on the pitch.
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What is tricky to understand about our team training on the pitch, videos of the pitch - all playable and hours before the match was due to take place? In other words, it was playable. I think that's a point worth highlighting, and that's all I've done. That is evidenced quite clearly via the links on my post. Anyway, I've said what I needed to, so that's me done.
All of that may well be true. None of it changes the fact that the pitch inspection, which your club arranged, should have been done at a more considerate time.
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No, it demonstrates that the pitch is playable and the match should not have been postponed.
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No, it demonstrates that the pitch is playable and the match should not have been postponed.
Then why arrange a pitch inspection?
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You tell me. At the meeting yesterday between SUFC, AFC and a local official (who attended today and postponed the game) it wasn't Southend who wanted either the inspection or the postponement. That only leaves two others, and I suspect it was the local ref but it may well have been Alty too (seriously doubt that, but you never know).
https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2024/january/19/pitch-inspection-tomorrow-morning/ (https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2024/january/19/pitch-inspection-tomorrow-morning/)
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You tell me. At the meeting yesterday between SUFC, AFC and a local official (who attended today and postponed the game) it wasn't Southend who wanted either the inspection or the postponement. That only leaves two others, and I suspect it was the local ref but it may well have been Alty too (seriously doubt that, but you never know).
https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2024/january/19/pitch-inspection-tomorrow-morning/ (https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2024/january/19/pitch-inspection-tomorrow-morning/)
Ok. So the next time Southend are required to arrange a pitch inspection, can they try to do it at a time that’s not going to f**k over the opposition team and their fans if it doesn’t turn out the way they’re expecting to? Not a lot to ask.
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I think both Southend and the ref can share culpability for this one - I do think the refs go over the top with cancellations these days (look at Anthony Taylor when he's come down to our place).
However, the social media reaction from them today is really tasteless.
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On a more positive note...
Gateshead are 1-0 down at Dorking with ten men...
...and Aldershot have completely crumbled at Kidderminster after being 2 up.
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You tell me. At the meeting yesterday between SUFC, AFC and a local official (who attended today and postponed the game) it wasn't Southend who wanted either the inspection or the postponement. That only leaves two others, and I suspect it was the local ref but it may well have been Alty too (seriously doubt that, but you never know).
https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2024/january/19/pitch-inspection-tomorrow-morning/ (https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2024/january/19/pitch-inspection-tomorrow-morning/)
To lighten things a tad , can you arrange for that clown of a ref to get dumped off the end of that fab pier of yours .😔
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On a more positive note...
Gateshead are 1-0 down at Dorking with ten men...
...and Aldershot have completely crumbled at Kidderminster after being 2 up.
But the icing on the cake has got to be Jordan's hat trick at Macclesfield ;D
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On a more positive note...
Gateshead are 1-0 down at Dorking with ten men...
...and Aldershot have completely crumbled at Kidderminster after being 2 up.
But the icing on the cake has got to be Jordan's hat trick at Macclesfield ;D
Oh it really was mate. I was in the area and dropped by to witness it. Made my f****** day 🤣
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To lighten things a tad , can you arrange for that clown of a ref to get dumped off the end of that fab pier of yours .😔
More than happy to! :D As the saying goes, I'll happily drive him there myself...
As you know we're relatively new to this league, and while pretty much everything about the NL has been a positive surprise, the standard of officials is absolutely unbelievably hopeless. How do you cope long term? We may end up here longer than anticipated so any tips would be very welcome - they're driving us round the bend!
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Too right mate , been like this for years worst luck .
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Manchester Evening News 1st February 1908.
We know how to deal with a crisis. I presume that this would have probably been our reserve team. I had a great Uncle playing for Mobberley around this time and he may have also turned out for Alty too.
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Alderley Wilmslow Advertiser 2nd July 1909
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My great Uncle is on the far right of the photograph. He has retired from playing by this time but still retained a keen interest in the club.
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Parky has just stated on Radio Alty that the pitch on Saturday was not playable in his view and he thinks the ref made the right call.
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Parky has just stated on Radio Alty that the pitch on Saturday was not playable in his view and he thinks the ref made the right call.
That brings this discussion to a close then 😀
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Southend's game at Wealdstone has just been called off, an hour or so before kick-off.
I think that's what's known as karma.
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I'm not sure this was Karma. It certainly was a pain in the arse as all of the Shrimpers tribe (well over 600) were pretty much ensconced in pubs in Wealdstone or loitering aimlessly outside the ground. Interesting comment from your manager regarding the correctness of the postponement of Saturday's game. But has been said water under the bridge now.
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Karma indeed but ultimately, it's the decent away fans who miss out. At least it wasn't a massive journey.