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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: bumble on November 25, 2014, 10:02:59 AM
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Q: Having got ourselves into bother, it was an incredible turnaround in the second half, wasn’t it?
A: Yes it was, but I’m going to sound like a right miserable old git again, because the way the final few minutes panned out annoyed me. We go 3-2 up, and then what happens? Nine men push us back for the last five minutes and leave us hanging on. I pointed out to the players what the consequence could easily have been.
Let’s say eight of our players and seven of theirs were inside the box when we were defending our goal at the end. That’s 15 players inside the area, as the ball is played in. It only has to hit someone on the backside and fall at one of their players’ feet, and it’s 3-3. How galling would that have been? That is what disappointed me.
Then Why do we bring so many men back for Corners in general. They are unlikely to go man v man on the half way line, Itd give Stu more space to come and command.
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I agree, with all 10 men in the box, there's no-one to pick up the ball when it's cleared, and a big chance it gets pumped back in. It would be good to leave three out for the stray ball IMO
That's what happened for Alfreton's goal recently. Deflected off Kyle's head and into the net. Not a pop at Kyle, but surely he should have been hanging around the half-way line?
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Which does lead us back to the question of organising an effective defence, which given Lees career I'm surprised we're not better at.
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
That's what he thinks and that's why he thinks he can do what he want's - we know nothing compared to him
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
That's what he thinks and that's why he thinks he can do what he want's - we know nothing compared to him
Quite probably correct.
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I'd like to think that by leaving two up on the half way line we've got more chance of scoring from a breakaway than conceding because there's more space in the penalty area.
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
That's what he thinks and that's why he thinks he can do what he want's - we know nothing compared to him
Quite probably correct.
I'm not questioning Lee knows more about defending (indeed all tactical areas of the game then me but his applying it.
I remain however sure Lee will and Co. will keep us up.
COME ON ALTY.
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I'd like to think that by leaving two up on the half way line we've got more chance of scoring from a breakaway than conceding because there's more space in the penalty area.
Yes, that's what I was getting at. Even if there is no breakaway, the oppo having to backpedal at least reduces the danger to our goal, so it's a no-lose situation IMO. How many times do we see a half-cleared ball just come straight back because we have no-one to move the ball away?
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I'd like to think that by leaving two up on the half way line we've got more chance of scoring from a breakaway than conceding because there's more space in the penalty area.
Yes, that's what I was getting at. Even if there is no breakaway, the oppo having to backpedal at least reduces the danger to our goal, so it's a no-lose situation IMO. How many times do we see a half-cleared ball just come straight back because we have no-one to move the ball away?
it's not the first time we've seen this from Alty. i can recall games going back through the years where we cannot keep the ball and we end up going round in a cycle of defeence. the onus has to be on ways of breaking that cos in the end pressure and continually chasing the ball is going to tell.
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I know it's not fashionable to be a fan of route one, but my favourite sort of goal is when the ball is lashed out of defence and the man up front takes just one or two touches to stick the ball in the net. Colin Little was the master.
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just thought this might interest a few on here as we need more people involved in the game who know what there doing especially at youth levels.
http://nav.thefa.com/sitecore/content/TheFA/Home/GetIntoFootball/FALearning/NewsAndFeatures/2003/Becoming_a_coach
Put your money where your mouth/keyboard is if you know how it should be done, prove it.
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It is odd that we bring every player back when the opposition have a corner. There must be a reason for it, since it appears to be a very deliberate team policy. All I can think of is that, it draws the opposition's defenders forward and the team must feel that we have the pace to outrun a back pedalling defence on the counter attack.
It's probably a better idea to ask the manager in person, or indeed one of the players, why the team does this, rather than call him names.
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It is odd that we bring every player back when the opposition have a corner. There must be a reason for it, since it appears to be a very deliberate team policy. All I can think of is that, it draws the opposition's defenders forward and the team must feel that we have the pace to outrun a back pedalling defence on the counter attack.
It's probably a better idea to ask the manager in person, or indeed one of the players, why the team does this, rather than call him names.
Maybe we could ask Perry to outrun the back pedalling defence!!!!!!
I know who my money would be on
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He managed ok at Halifax,although they were reeling him in pretty quickly.
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
That's what he thinks and that's why he thinks he can do what he want's - we know nothing compared to him
Quite probably correct.
speak for yourself Jenga
I know people, long standing supporters of this club, that know much more about this level of football than Mr Sinnott ever will
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
That's what he thinks and that's why he thinks he can do what he want's - we know nothing compared to him
Quite probably correct.
speak for yourself Jenga
I know people, long standing supporters of this club, that know much more about this level of football than Mr Sinnott ever will
but are they qualified?
i know a bloke who spends his free time attending the public gallary at manchester law courts, he's seen thousands of cases, does that make him able to tell a barrister how to do his job and how to interprit the law?
not saying i agree with this tactic but lee isnt the only manager in the world to use this tactic so there must be a method behind it. I remeber GH employed the same tactic and when questions he pointed out Sir Alex used the tactic at United so if thats the case maybe it works. unless someone can quote me the statistic of us conceeding everytime we defend a corner like this in which case i will retract the statement.
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Christ. LS can't please everybody whatever he does. If we were 10 points clear at the top of the league some people would find something to moan about him. We all know he has his faults but he is the best person to manage the club at the moment. This criticism of him is getting a bit tiresome.
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Christ. LS can't please everybody whatever he does. If we were 10 points clear at the top of the league some people would find something to moan about him. We all know he has his faults but he is the best person to manage the club at the moment. This criticism of him is getting a bit tiresome.
Hear, hear! The only change I would make to this post is to the first sentence - it seems at times as if LS can't please anybody whatever he does. Leave the man alone to do his job; we are after all at about the top of what we can realistically aspire to as a club - membership of the top division available to semi-pro clubs & players - & capable of maintaining that status. To expect more than that is in my view to live in dreamland.
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Totally agree, the continued criticism is to be quite frank pi$$ing me off.
For the record i dont think LS is the best manager in the world, otherwise he would be Madrid, but he does a job and a decent job. yes he has his faults, or what we think are his faults, and i myself think he makes some strange decisions, as does Van Gaal and Alex Ferguson did. but the continued personal abuse (mainly from Jamie) is getting is just doing my head in.
He is the manager get over it or go to the trafford forum.
And for the record this is a serious post.
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Given Lee's career maybe he knows better than we do. Just saying like.
That's what he thinks and that's why he thinks he can do what he want's - we know nothing compared to him
Quite probably correct.
speak for yourself Jenga
I know people, long standing supporters of this club, that know much more about this level of football than Mr Sinnott ever will
but are they qualified?
i know a bloke who spends his free time attending the public gallary at manchester law courts, he's seen thousands of cases, does that make him able to tell a barrister how to do his job and how to interprit the law?
not saying i agree with this tactic but lee isnt the only manager in the world to use this tactic so there must be a method behind it. I remeber GH employed the same tactic and when questions he pointed out Sir Alex used the tactic at United so if thats the case maybe it works. unless someone can quote me the statistic of us conceeding everytime we defend a corner like this in which case i will retract the statement.
Do you actually know a man who goes court on a regular basis also just because Alex ferguson uses a tactic does not mean its right Pehaps they conceded a lot from corners I can't remember as for Sinnott he is doing ok
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I do, his name is eion and I regularly tell him he needs to get a life but that's another story
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Fair enough