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I think Parky would have to think a player would be a nailed on starter who improved the team considerably before signing a 30 year old.
There are two rules. The one we were able to take advantage of as a out of contract player with Mooney, then the training solidarity fee which is where we'd need to share some cash in a sale situation to all parties involved in their development.Age does I believe for players under 23 that have been trained by an academy there is a fixed solidarity percentage around 5%. This will mean Burnley and Fleetwood profit. We got the same when Dan Mooney left for his sojourn to the world of big crowds and small squads.500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.
Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
The owner of the club does not do the contract administration either. It would be negligent of an employee to just not bother with an industry standard clause.
We'll owe around 20-25% is my guess to Fleetwood (& Burnley to a lesser extent). With similar percentages negotiated in with the sale price when we are negotiating. Remember this clause is free money to all selling parties involved. It's an easy sweetener on a player you rate.
Dan Mooney was out of contract though - I thought it was to protect clubs who had developed a young player only to lose them for absolutely nothing?
I agree that I'd be amazed if the industry standard clause isn't in there - out of a £250k fee for argument's sake, I suspect at least £50k would go to Fleetwood.
Burnley chose to release him, I don't think they'd get a penny otherwise it would be carnage up and down the pyramid. I'm sure the acid test is demonstrating that you put your own contract on the table.
I know of this due to FM but it is realthey might not know the actual wages/real player ratings etc. but they do have the rules to hand.
Age does I believe for players under 23 that have been trained by an academy there is a fixed solidarity percentage around 5%. This will mean Burnley and Fleetwood profit. We got the same when Dan Mooney left for his sojourn to the world of big crowds and small squads.500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.
Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
The owner of the club does not do the contract administration either. It would be negligent of an employee to just not bother with an industry standard clause.
We'll owe around 20-25% is my guess to Fleetwood (& Burnley to a lesser extent). With similar percentages negotiated in with the sale price when we are negotiating. Remember this clause is free money to all selling parties involved. It's an easy sweetener on a player you rate.
500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.
Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.
Again, correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be!) but I'm not sure age comes into it - Fleetwood agreed a transfer with us, of their own free will, for a player that was under contract with them. How well they negotiated in terms of sell-on % is up to them.
Fleetwood's owner is in jail, they were relegation fodder. I doubt they would have had the wisdom to negotiate anything in terms of selling on fee - they'd have just seen the transfer fee and run.
I'm a believer that the King name is sacred here and he should come just because of that.
Lots of very strong right backs from this league are available this summer - Tylor Golden from Halifax, James Clarke from Solihull (who is from the North West) and Connor Barrett from Fylde - although I think they'd have been more realistic if we'd have gone up and it's not a huge priority position unless someone is presented to us that we simply can't refuse.
Add Jeff King to this list...
My concern is he's a demon going forward but is his defence as strong as we need it to be?
500K would be unbelievable. I think (should CCC leave) it'll be nearer the Stokes fee tbh but I hope you are right. Do I think Fleetwood would have been stupid? Yes 🤣Fleetwood are getting money because of his age. They will have done % deal though it's almost a standard feature of lower league transfers. See us getting some money for signing and never playing Berry. We'll do the same with Chris when we sell him I'm certain. We know from Watmore though that doesn't always work out so well.
Whatever happens, I just hope it's done quickly (and undisclosed) so the club know where they stand.
Stokes went for over 300 all in I think and he came with a wage free loan back. so that's 500k in value surely. We've gotta hope it gets bidding war silly to push to the higher end. Which as has been mentioned might come with the social media frenzy.
Ipswich 'are keen'. Peterborough, Portsmouth and Mansfield are 'monitoring his Progress'
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Not going to town with Neil Young's tenure at Alty.....but didn't his record that woeful season turn out to be better than Jim Harvey's and the caretaker roles ?
To be fair....his achievements at Chester and Marine are decent and I won't knock that...several promotions and the nirvana that is the FA Cup 3rd round !
I don't think Dan showed enough when he came back but he could justifiably argue that he didn't see enough of the ball to show much.
Good luck to him whatever happens next.
I think Dan Mooney was a useful weather vane when it comes to the progress the club has made in the time between him leaving and re-joining.
Good point. Dan’s problem is he is a bit too predictable, he needs to use his right foot more, I wish him luck for the future.
I don't think Dan showed enough when he came back but he could justifiably argue that he didn't see enough of the ball to show much.
Good luck to him whatever happens next.
