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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on September 08, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
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Team news to follow
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Densmore and Watmore injured, Duncan turned his ankle in the warm up....
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Densmore and Watmore injured, Duncan turned his ankle in the warm up....
bollocks :(
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Watmore and Densmore not fit. no more
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Coburn
Leather
Havern
Hall
Doughty
Richman
Moult
Rodgers
Clee
Reeves
Lawrie
Havern captain
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Densmore and Watmore injured, Duncan turned his ankle in the warm up....
Not according to John Laidlar:
"Watmore out- hurt ankle out jogging last night."
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From JL's reports
Poor signal here
Bright and sunny
Watmore out- hurt ankle out jogging last night and Densmore also not fit. Havern captain.
Alty warming up with Neil Tolson who is back after illness
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They have 10 men and we scored a pen! Nice one
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Alty lead 1 nil
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Another for Reeves :)
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1up, HT
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The goal is on danjones_UK twitter.
Type it in
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Anyone else lost the radio??
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1-1
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2-1 down...
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Woeful
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What is going on!?
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Pen to alty
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2-2 reeves
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2-2 reeves
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Yees!! 2-2 Reeves pen.
On danjones_UK twitter
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Clee off injured.
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Ful tiome?
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Sounds like we switched off after half time.
Down to 10 men shame but three games unbeaten now.
COME ON ALTY
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FT 2 2
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Opportunity missed there, ironically finishing let us down and switched off at the back again. Not a disaster but without Dunc and Dens OK.
Hope Nicky is OK.
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We are letting in two goals a game at the moment, bit of a bugger that but a point away from home is something.
Brackley won again, argghhh
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Having listened to the Radio Robins commentary, there's definitely a sense that we threw away two points there.
That's the second time this season already that we've failed to capitalise against a team who have been reduced to ten men.
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Was a missed opportunity but not for a lack of endeavour.
We hit the post twice, the bar and there keeper made a wonder save from Rodgers header.
Poor defending down the left for the goals but they were good strikes. We can pull apart every goal of needed but it's not something that others teams fans seem to do.
Overall we were the better team and should have win. Then having ten men seemed to make them work harder and we didn't have the rub of the green.
The own goal in first half should never gave been disallowed.
Two points off the playoffs and providing Duncan is back we will beat BPA. hope nicky is ok.
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Poor defending down the left for the goals but they were good strikes. We can pull apart every goal of needed but it's not something that others teams fans seem to do.
Ecky,
I suspect that scrutinising our defensive performances will remain a prominent issue until, alas, we stop conceding an average of two goals per game!
Still no clean sheet in an away game since our demotion to the Blue Square Bet North.
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My first game for ages and I thought we looked pretty good. I haven't seen Alty defenders assured on the ball for ages. we attacked pretty well, especially in the period after they took the lead. Their dugout were playing for time from the 10th minute which was quite incredible.
I thought the team looked quite well balanced today but definitely 2 points dropped
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Well what a strange game that was.
For the entire first half and from 55mins to 90 mins we played very well. I thought we look sharper, technically better and like we were likely to score at any moment. I also liked the way our defenders looked strong and aggressive.
Unfortunately, we came out after H/T one up and a man up thinking we'd already won. Nobody told Oxford, who were right at it. By the time we'd sorted ourselves out we'd conceded two goals. In all honesty, that was a scandalous lack of professionalism from the players.
We weren't helped by some truly woeful officiating, but the blame lies with ourselves. We didn't show the necessary concentration. But in terms of our overall play, I think we look good and should still be in the playoff picture come the end of the season.
Final word - please don't let Clee's injury be serious. It looked pretty bad.
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1st game I've seen this season.
Thought we thoroughly deserved to win and a bit gutted. But defensively much better apart from just after half time.
Biggest concern was seeing Watmore limping behind the goal at half time. Hope he didn't get injured in warm up?
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Watmore injured himself jogging last night and turned his able.
That's why i don't get involved in such pastimes.
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Exercise is bad for you - well established fact known to all people over 30!
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Watmore injured himself jogging last night and turned his able.
That's why i don't get involved in such pastimes.
i hope he wasnt really in chequers with bernard break dancing to reel 2 reel or i will be livid
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By the way we definitely out numbered the home support today - actually the combined teams & staff probably out numbered the home support!
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That's the best football I have seen us play in a long time. But I am sat here feeling really down. We dominated the whole game except 80 seconds at the beginning of the second half and a nervy last 10 mins after Nicky went off. Definitely 2 points dropped - make no mistake Oxford were not a bad side, and a draw is a good result, but we played well enough to have walked this one
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That's the best football I have seen us play in a long time. But I am sat here feeling really down. We dominated the whole game except 80 seconds at the beginning of the second half and a nervy last 10 mins after Nicky went off. Definitely 2 points dropped - make no mistake Oxford were not a bad side, and a draw is a good result, but we played well enough to have walked this one
Load of sh*t
We were a disgrace today
Such sh*t against 10 men in such hot weather is a crime
The sooner Sinnott f**ks off the better
Same sh*t different season, and the same bollocks excuses on this forum
Today was the final straw
Sinnout now before its to late
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What did "Sinnott" do wrong today?
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So I know I have not been there week in week out watching Alty, but JDNs rant is bollocks I am afraid to say. We played well, and at the end of the day were unlucky. The football was good - better concentration would have seen 3 points.
And if you think today's performance was sh*t, where were you when we scraped into 13th place in the Unibond?
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Load of sh*t
We were a disgrace today
Such sh*t against 10 men in such hot weather is a crime
The sooner Sinnott f**ks off the better
Same sh*t different season, and the same bollocks excuses on this forum
Today was the final straw
Sinnout now before its to late
Hi Dennis ;)
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What did "Sinnott" do wrong today?
total lack of ability to manage at this level
Can not organise a team for toffee
Name one thing he had done right, since his sh*t head arrived at the club
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Nonsense. The improvement since last season is significant - even without Duncan today. I don't know what you are expecting but if it's massively better than that then you need to find a team a league or three higher up!
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JDN...calm the f**k down man.
Its football, no-one has died so stop being a keyboard warrior.
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So I know I have not been there week in week out watching Alty, but JDNs rant is bollocks I am afraid to say. We played well, and at the end of the day were unlucky. The football was good - better concentration would have seen 3 points.
And if you think today's performance was sh*t, where were you when we scraped into 13th place in the Unibond?
We played well? Your having a laugh! Another 2 goals conceded, well done lads
Can't be average team with ten men, well done lads
Same sh*t different season
I am fed up travel all over the country to watch such sh*t, maybe you should watch a few more games before posting such rubbish
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What did "Sinnott" do wrong today?
total lack of ability to manage at this level
Can not organise a team for toffee
Name one thing he had done right, since his sh*t head arrived at the club
We are two points off the playoffs. If we can BPA we will be in strong position.
The team is improved on last season and playing some great football in my opinion. I remain unconvinced by doughty but leather hall and haven are major improvements. Jake moult is running the midfield and reeves is on fire. Lawrie getting more consistent. Watmore exciting everyone.
We had three minutes of madness in the second half and after it we continued to attach well and were denied by bad luck.
It's not exclusive to Alty that they struggle against ten men away from home. I thought Oxford were better with ten.
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Don't often get to comment so will take chance to give my thoughts.
1st half we played well and bossed the middle well with Rodgers and Moult dispatching the ball very well. We deserved to be ahead and they panicked whenever Reeves had the ball which gifted the penalty. Lawrie, Reeves and Clee look good together.
How we can have a goal chalked off when it was an own goal is beyond me.
2nd half was typical, we started well, pressed them, got caught on the counter far too easily then Basham curled in a belter. All of a sudden we're losing. FFS!
After that we did well, and tore them apart at will. Reeves did well holding the ball up and took his penalties well, first one in top corner was a peach. However, and this is practically a famous quote, aside from the two goals his finishing was a bit off the mark. On another day we would have scored tonnes.
I thought Leather did well at right back. Moult was very good and Lawrie did well. Rodgers impressed me too.
The only real complaints I'd have are that too often they won the 2nd ball even with 10 men. And we got pulled apart for the first goal, not tight enough across the back four. Also, the ref was woeful today and payed into their hands. He allowed them to waste time and we also didn't do well keeping the tempo up. The time keeping was suspect, I was expecting at least 2 more minutes.
Hey ho, not bad all in all.
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Don't often get to comment so will take chance to give my thoughts.
1st half we played well and bossed the middle well with Rodgers and Moult dispatching the ball very well. We deserved to be ahead and they panicked whenever Reeves had the ball which gifted the penalty. Lawrie, Reeves and Clee look good together.
How we can have a goal chalked off when it was an own goal is beyond me.
2nd half was typical, we started well, pressed them, got caught on the counter far too easily then Basham curled in a belter. All of a sudden we're losing. FFS!
After that we did well, and tore them apart at will. Reeves did well holding the ball up and took his penalties well, first one in top corner was a peach. However, and this is practically a famous quote, aside from the two goals his finishing was a bit off the mark. On another day we would have scored tonnes.
I thought Leather did well at right back. Moult was very good and Lawrie did well. Rodgers impressed me too.
The only real complaints I'd have are that too often they won the 2nd ball even with 10 men. And we got pulled apart for the first goal, not tight enough across the back four. Also, the ref was woeful today and payed into their hands. He allowed them to waste time and we also didn't do well keeping the tempo up. The time keeping was suspect, I was expecting at least 2 more minutes.
Hey ho, not bad all in all.
glad your happy, but for some its not good enough
We tore them apart at will? We couldn't even score from open play!!
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We'll play worse than that and win, but much as I love Buzz we have to find another solution at left back.
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Don't think you went to the same game JDN.
I don't get to many games so I was happy actually. Got to chat to a mate, watch Alty play some good football, score a couple an overall be the better side.
I'm not daft. I've had plenty to say about LS. But what was he supposed to do today? We hit the post twice, the bar, Reeves missed a sitter, four whistled past the post and the own goal that they somehow got away with. Oh yeah, the wonder save, the one that hit the keeper in the head and the one that deflected off the defender for a corner.
Stop f**king going if you think that's bad. My last game was stalybridge at home last season. That was the worst I've seen us since Mossley in the cup, miserable. You must have been suicidal after that.
If you want to be as pedantic as today's ref you might question why we didn't put fresh legs on earlier but it wasn't like we weren't creating!
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JDN are you Gary Lowe?
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Don't think you went to the same game JDN.
I don't get to many games so I was happy actually. Got to chat to a mate, watch Alty play some good football, score a couple an overall be the better side.
I'm not daft. I've had plenty to say about LS. But what was he supposed to do today? We hit the post twice, the bar, Reeves missed a sitter, four whistled past the post and the own goal that they somehow got away with. Oh yeah, the wonder save, the one that hit the keeper in the head and the one that deflected off the defender for a corner.
Stop f**king going if you think that's bad. My last game was stalybridge at home last season. That was the worst I've seen us since Mossley in the cup, miserable. You must have been suicidal after that.
If you want to be as pedantic as today's ref you might question why we didn't put fresh legs on earlier but it wasn't like we weren't creating!
your on drugs if you think today was better than stalybridge at home last season
Also on drugs if you think Stalybridge at home last season was our worst performance for ten years, how would you know anyway?
Your credibility is nil
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Don't think you went to the same game JDN.
I don't get to many games so I was happy actually. Got to chat to a mate, watch Alty play some good football, score a couple an overall be the better side.
I'm not daft. I've had plenty to say about LS. But what was he supposed to do today? We hit the post twice, the bar, Reeves missed a sitter, four whistled past the post and the own goal that they somehow got away with. Oh yeah, the wonder save, the one that hit the keeper in the head and the one that deflected off the defender for a corner.
Stop f**king going if you think that's bad. My last game was stalybridge at home last season. That was the worst I've seen us since Mossley in the cup, miserable. You must have been suicidal after that.
If you want to be as pedantic as today's ref you might question why we didn't put fresh legs on earlier but it wasn't like we weren't creating!
your on drugs if you think today was better than stalybridge at home last season
Also on drugs if you think Stalybridge at home last season was our worst performance for ten years, how would you know anyway?
Your credibility is nil
nice claiming nil credibilty of others whilst calling them crack heads nice
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we played will for 80 mins of the game. first 10 mins of 2nd half was bizarre. thought we dominated the first half and when we went 2-1 down woke up again and started playing again! had the chance to win but the city goal keeper made some freak saves! still a wasted opportunity though. however 4 points from our last 2 away games is good going! played well today in my opinion. bollocks to people saying we were sh*t
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Don't think you went to the same game JDN.
I don't get to many games so I was happy actually. Got to chat to a mate, watch Alty play some good football, score a couple an overall be the better side.
I'm not daft. I've had plenty to say about LS. But what was he supposed to do today? We hit the post twice, the bar, Reeves missed a sitter, four whistled past the post and the own goal that they somehow got away with. Oh yeah, the wonder save, the one that hit the keeper in the head and the one that deflected off the defender for a corner.
Stop f**king going if you think that's bad. My last game was stalybridge at home last season. That was the worst I've seen us since Mossley in the cup, miserable. You must have been suicidal after that.
If you want to be as pedantic as today's ref you might question why we didn't put fresh legs on earlier but it wasn't like we weren't creating!
your on drugs if you think today was better than stalybridge at home last season
Also on drugs if you think Stalybridge at home last season was our worst performance for ten years, how would you know anyway?
Your credibility is nil
Apologies, I meant Hyde at home. My mistake.
What are you getting personal for JDN? Do you know who I am? I certainly don't know you, I think you should wind it in a bit. I said worst I've seen us play, not our worst performance, read the f**king post properly before you type things like that.
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Well said.any news on Nickys injury?
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Just back from Oxford. Thought performance was good and on another day we would have scored four or five. Richman and Leather did well on the right, both Oxford goals coming from the Alty left. Eliminate the lack of concentration at the back and our attack will scare most teams.
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He turned his ankle so i assume there will be ligament damage
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Agree with others that we played very well today and I'm still wondering how we didn't win having bosses the game throughout. I hate to say it, but we do urgently need a left back, as poor Matt was all at sea unfortunately. The difference in our fortunes has been Jake Moult - absolutely brilliant addition to the team.,2 points lost, but as others have said, things are better now and we are close.
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sad though it is looks to me that Brackley and Chester are too strong for us and we won't beat both to the league title. That being said we can make the playoffs easily as there is nothing between the rest in my opinion. Our problem is that pre season seems to have been wasted as the team looks to only now be gelling. The reeves unsettlement and the disappearing mcgivern along with signing two striker that at my kindest "need a bit of confidence" have taken the sting out of our start. Isn't it interesting that the top two had fantastic seasons last year as well and are full of confidence.
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Dissapointed seems every time we look like were a decent side we take a step back
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Regular forum reader but not posted before. Last game I got to was Solihull in September last year! So don't tell me there was no improvement. Enjoyed yesterday, thought we were unlucky not to win it when we hit the bar and post and that guy cleared off the line. The earlier poster on here (JDN) sounds like a man with some serious issues unless he is just on a windup, such hatred towards a football manager is odd and then he said someone had no credibility when he was basically swearing to get his point over. If you win your home games and draw your aways you won't be far off going places.
Hoping to get back for BPA and see if we can break into that top five
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Exercise is bad for you - well established fact known to all people over 30!
I did my last marathon in Dublin October 2001 and was aged 49.
A point we would have settled for before the game,but in the end i felt a bit deflated at the final whistle,sounded a good game on RR.
Hope JL enjoyed his fried egg he cooked at half time on the walls of the stand and hope all our injured players are ok
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Regular forum reader but not posted before. Last game I got to was Solihull in September last year! So don't tell me there was no improvement. Enjoyed yesterday, thought we were unlucky not to win it when we hit the bar and post and that guy cleared off the line. The earlier poster on here (JDN) sounds like a man with some serious issues unless he is just on a windup, such hatred towards a football manager is odd and then he said someone had no credibility when he was basically swearing to get his point over. If you win your home games and draw your aways you won't be far off going places.
Hoping to get back for BPA and see if we can break into that top five
However last year we won at Halifax to me it's been inconsistent this season like last the table shows little improvement
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Regular forum reader but not posted before. Last game I got to was Solihull in September last year! So don't tell me there was no improvement. Enjoyed yesterday, thought we were unlucky not to win it when we hit the bar and post and that guy cleared off the line. The earlier poster on here (JDN) sounds like a man with some serious issues unless he is just on a windup, such hatred towards a football manager is odd and then he said someone had no credibility when he was basically swearing to get his point over. If you win your home games and draw your aways you won't be far off going places.
Hoping to get back for BPA and see if we can break into that top five
However last year we won at Halifax to me it's been inconsistent this season like last the table shows little improvement
I think it's an improvement on last season. We've played seven matches. The three wins include victories on two grounds where we lost last season. The drawn game was disappointing but not exactly a disaster. The defeats ? Two of them to the only two sides to have 100% records after seven games. Vauxhall Motors ? Always a bogey ground where we SHOULD always get a result but contrive not to !
Yes there are still problems to be ironed out. As I already noted, left back is, yet again, our Achilles' Heel. Midfield creativity is in the hands of a loan player. We're thin on the ground if injury and suspension problems start to bite.
But I see no reason why we can't make the play-offs - and don't forget this squad is the possibly the youngest we've ever had, so there's scope for them to push on.
Glass three quarters full......................
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I was disappointed last night, but having had time to think, things are definitely looking up.
We are playing better every game, if we had have had a full strength team we would have won yesterday ( and at Vauxhall, but that wasn't through injuries!).
Look very good for the playoffs and every home game I believe we are capable of scoring four or five without breaking sweat. There can't be a team providing better entertainment than us in the country, though whether this suits Lee or not is another matter!
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I got in ten minutes late so missed a little but Oxford were poor with eleven men to not win against ten poor players in the heat is disappointing to say the least
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4 points from 2 away games is a good return in anyones book , what is baffling is that i don"t have a clue of what our style of play is ,does anybody know? after only 7 games we play like Kevin Keegans Newcastle , great when its going well , crap when not ! at least not knowing adds to the matchday experience !!!
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Fans often get criticised for overreacting to a defeat but I may be about to overreact to a draw here... nevertheless, I think yesterday's was exactly the kind of game that a successful football team would find a way to win. We can offer any number of excuses but that was two points dropped and for me, you couldn't get a better illustration of what differentiates the top teams from the 6th/7th/8th ones than that.
This is a pretty talented Altrincham squad but I just don't feel there's that streak of steel within them, the win-at-all-costs mentality, that we will need to get promotion. And I do feel that's down to the manager.
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Quality post leon
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4 points from 2 away games is a good return in anyones book , what is baffling is that i don"t have a clue of what our style of play is ,does anybody know? after only 7 games we play like Kevin Keegans Newcastle , great when its going well , crap when not ! at least not knowing adds to the matchday experience !!!
Our style of play is four four two a style that is good on the eye but makes you light in midfield but can we or lee play another way I'm not sure at the higher level of the game it's outdated
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Fans often get criticised for overreacting to a defeat but I may be about to overreact to a draw here... nevertheless, I think yesterday's was exactly the kind of game that a successful football team would find a way to win. We can offer any number of excuses but that was two points dropped and for me, you couldn't get a better illustration of what differentiates the top teams from the 6th/7th/8th ones than that.
This is a pretty talented Altrincham squad but I just don't feel there's that streak of steel within them, the win-at-all-costs mentality, that we will need to get promotion. And I do feel that's down to the manager.
Hear what you're saying but I still believe that the main reason we didn't win yesterday was poor defending down the left and simple bad luck. I've been to Alty away games where we have created little and not looked like we would score even against ten men.
After going 2 - 1 down we keep on moving forward and it was posts, bars, a wonderful save from the keeper and rogers thunderbolt hitting a defender in the face that meant we didn't turn one point into three. I wouldn't call these excuses, on another day (Gainsborough?) they are goals.
Don't remember Stuart having a save to make and the centre halves dealt with most things well.
Whether you like the manager or you don't, I'm not sure that he could have done much differently yesterday.
And with Duncan Watmore we would have won in my opinion.
We wanted three points but we got one. Disappointing yes but 4 away points in a week is no disaster.
We need to keep the run going against BPA now.
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The earlier poster on here (JDN) sounds like a man with some serious issues unless he is just on a windup, such hatred towards a football manager is odd and then he said someone had no credibility when he was basically swearing to get his point over.
Like most others on here who get abusive, post extreme views or over-react when not necessary, he is another that hides behind a psuedonym
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If we actually look closely at our form so far and the teams we've played it doesn't make too bad a reading at all.
Bar our seemingly new bogey team, Vauxhall we've only lost to the teams in 1st and 2nd whilst beating most mid-table sides and Harrogate who are now in 6th. The league table from the main site shows it quite well: http://www.altrinchamfc.co.uk/table12.htm
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Fans often get criticised for overreacting to a defeat but I may be about to overreact to a draw here... nevertheless, I think yesterday's was exactly the kind of game that a successful football team would find a way to win. We can offer any number of excuses but that was two points dropped and for me, you couldn't get a better illustration of what differentiates the top teams from the 6th/7th/8th ones than that.
This is a pretty talented Altrincham squad but I just don't feel there's that streak of steel within them, the win-at-all-costs mentality, that we will need to get promotion. And I do feel that's down to the manager.
Hear what you're saying but I still believe that the main reason we didn't win yesterday was poor defending down the left and simple bad luck. I've been to Alty away games where we have created little and not looked like we would score even against ten men.
After going 2 - 1 down we keep on moving forward and it was posts, bars, a wonderful save from the keeper and rogers thunderbolt hitting a defender in the face that meant we didn't turn one point into three. I wouldn't call these excuses, on another day (Gainsborough?) they are goals.
Don't remember Stuart having a save to make and the centre halves dealt with most things well.
Whether you like the manager or you don't, I'm not sure that he could have done much differently yesterday.
And with Duncan Watmore we would have won in my opinion.
We wanted three points but we got one. Disappointing yes but 4 away points in a week is no disaster.
We need to keep the run going against BPA now.
I agree with pretty much all of that.
It's odd, sometimes a defeat or a disappointing draw doesn't affect you that much and you just shrug it off and then sometimes it really hits home for some reason. It was my first game of the season, so I probably am reading too much into it, but for me yesterday was one of those games that doesn't seem like a big deal but actually was symptomatic of a deep-seated problem.
There wasn't much that LS could have done differently yesterday but what he hasn't done during his entire time at the club is instil the ability to defend properly for an entire game. So many of the goals we concede come from lapses in concentration - we've always got a mad two minutes in us. Cult mentioned that stat about us never having kept a clean sheet away from Moss Lane under LS, which I think is so familiar now we've almost got to the point of accepting it. But it's dreadful and it doesn't look like changing.
I like Sinnott on the whole. I like the football we play under him and the way he conducts himself. I just don't feel in my bones that he'll ever bring us success. Really hope I'm wrong about that.
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Fans often get criticised for overreacting to a defeat but I may be about to overreact to a draw here... nevertheless, I think yesterday's was exactly the kind of game that a successful football team would find a way to win. We can offer any number of excuses but that was two points dropped and for me, you couldn't get a better illustration of what differentiates the top teams from the 6th/7th/8th ones than that.
This is a pretty talented Altrincham squad but I just don't feel there's that streak of steel within them, the win-at-all-costs mentality, that we will need to get promotion. And I do feel that's down to the manager.
Hear what you're saying but I still believe that the main reason we didn't win yesterday was poor defending down the left and simple bad luck. I've been to Alty away games where we have created little and not looked like we would score even against ten men.
After going 2 - 1 down we keep on moving forward and it was posts, bars, a wonderful save from the keeper and rogers thunderbolt hitting a defender in the face that meant we didn't turn one point into three. I wouldn't call these excuses, on another day (Gainsborough?) they are goals.
Don't remember Stuart having a save to make and the centre halves dealt with most things well.
Whether you like the manager or you don't, I'm not sure that he could have done much differently yesterday.
And with Duncan Watmore we would have won in my opinion.
We wanted three points but we got one. Disappointing yes but 4 away points in a week is no disaster.
We need to keep the run going against BPA now.
I agree with pretty much all of that.
It's odd, sometimes a defeat or a disappointing draw doesn't affect you that much and you just shrug it off and then sometimes it really hits home for some reason. It was my first game of the season, so I probably am reading too much into it, but for me yesterday was one of those games that doesn't seem like a big deal but actually was symptomatic of a deep-seated problem.
There wasn't much that LS could have done differently yesterday but what he hasn't done during his entire time at the club is instil the ability to defend properly for an entire game. So many of the goals we concede come from lapses in concentration - we've always got a mad two minutes in us. Cult mentioned that stat about us never having kept a clean sheet away from Moss Lane under LS, which I think is so familiar now we've almost got to the point of accepting it. But it's dreadful and it doesn't look like changing.
I like Sinnott on the whole. I like the football we play under him and the way he conducts himself. I just don't feel in my bones that he'll ever bring us success. Really hope I'm wrong about that.
I'm right on the middle ground when it comes to the manager but I do feel he is held personally responsible for if a player doesn't close down, or trackback and a goal comes from it then its fault with some people. I've never really seen this with other managers before or at other clubs.
Full time Stalybridge threw away a 2 goal lead away from home to lose 4-3 yesterday. I've just looked at their forum and no one seems to blame Jim Harvey.
Anyway I'm falling into the trap of treating the views of a few as everyones. This forum is made up of 30 regular posters and we have 600 fans.
We will have more ups and downs to come yet, lets hope the ups outweigh the downs and we can stick together and get behind the team to play our part.
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Knowing a bridge fan they seem to be happy just watching the young players rather than the hunger our fans have to go up so im not surprised Harvey didn't get heckled in my opinion I would've been fed up with Harvey not getting a very good side promoted
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Well if Stalybridge fans are satisfied then maybe we should be satisfied?
Stalybridge the benchmark for Altrincham
Maybe I and some others have been expecting to much
Midtable in the BSN is good, and a draw at Oxford City is not a bad result (they are above us after all)
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Well if Stalybridge fans are satisfied then maybe we should be satisfied?
Stalybridge the benchmark for Altrincham
Maybe I and some others have been expecting to much
Midtable in the BSN is good, and a draw at Oxford City is not a bad result (they are above us after all)
I think you know that's not the point I'm making.
I want to be in the playoffs this year. Midtable isn't good at all.
I'm making the point that every miskick is the managers fault in some people eyes.
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The earlier poster on here (JDN) sounds like a man with some serious issues unless he is just on a windup, such hatred towards a football manager is odd and then he said someone had no credibility when he was basically swearing to get his point over.
Like most others on here who get abusive, post extreme views or over-react when not necessary, he is another that hides behind a psuedonym
JDN is not a psuedonym
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Leon has already summed it up really well there for me. That was a game we really should have won. On such a hot day having an extra man for an hour really should have tipped the scales in our favour but for the umpteenth time we shoot ourselves in the foot at the back again. Sure 7/9 represents a good week but we should be sat here with 9/9. We just don't seem to have the mentality to close games out and get the job done like a real top team would.
On a separate note, top day out drinking pints of Oxford Gold on the terraces in glorious sunshine, decent set up at Oxford City but they'll struggle to survive at our level on that support, there can't have been more than 150 home fans in the ground. Oxford United at home on the same day can't help though
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Fans often get criticised for overreacting to a defeat but I may be about to overreact to a draw here... nevertheless, I think yesterday's was exactly the kind of game that a successful football team would find a way to win. We can offer any number of excuses but that was two points dropped and for me, you couldn't get a better illustration of what differentiates the top teams from the 6th/7th/8th ones than that.
This is a pretty talented Altrincham squad but I just don't feel there's that streak of steel within them, the win-at-all-costs mentality, that we will need to get promotion. And I do feel that's down to the manager.
At last some sense!
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Fans often get criticised for overreacting to a defeat but I may be about to overreact to a draw here... nevertheless, I think yesterday's was exactly the kind of game that a successful football team would find a way to win. We can offer any number of excuses but that was two points dropped and for me, you couldn't get a better illustration of what differentiates the top teams from the 6th/7th/8th ones than that.
This is a pretty talented Altrincham squad but I just don't feel there's that streak of steel within them, the win-at-all-costs mentality, that we will need to get promotion. And I do feel that's down to the manager.
At last some sense!
So you are dismissing everyone who has a different opinion to you as having no sense?
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On a separate note, top day out drinking pints of Oxford Gold on the terraces in glorious sunshine, decent set up at Oxford City but they'll struggle to survive at our level on that support, there can't have been more than 150 home fans in the ground. Oxford United at home on the same day can't help though
Nice friendly club almost certainly living within their limited means. I wish them well.
And the Oxford Gold was bob on....as was the locally sourced sausage barm cake ;)
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I think that if we play the strarting 11 that we did against Gainsborough in a 442 we won't be far off. Trouble being that when 1 of the 11 doesn't start we're nothing like.
Keeping every one fit and not suspened is impossible.
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Only seen the home games so far this season so not as best placed to comment as others however if we continue as we have started so far again this season as in the last we are going to be one of the highest scorers in the leauge the worry is we will pretty much leak as many as we score again
Hopefully we wont and we will improve in defending for 90 minutes
Up the reds!
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Hear what you're saying but I still believe that the main reason we didn't win yesterday was poor defending down the left and simple bad luck. I've been to Alty away games where we have created little and not looked like we would score even against ten men.
After going 2 - 1 down we keep on moving forward and it was posts, bars, a wonderful save from the keeper and rogers thunderbolt hitting a defender in the face that meant we didn't turn one point into three. I wouldn't call these excuses, on another day (Gainsborough?) they are goals.
Don't remember Stuart having a save to make and the centre halves dealt with most things well.
Whether you like the manager or you don't, I'm not sure that he could have done much differently yesterday.
And with Duncan Watmore we would have won in my opinion.
We wanted three points but we got one. Disappointing yes but 4 away points in a week is no disaster.
We need to keep the run going against BPA now.
Ecky,
However, you could argue that what he should have done differently during the close season is to have signed a better left full back though.
Mind you, filling that particular position, above all, seems to have been a recurring problem since our promotion in 2005.
With the exception of Matt Doughty's first spell with the club and the odd loanee such as James Jennings, quality left full backs at Moss Lane have been scarce in recent times.
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Hear what you're saying but I still believe that the main reason we didn't win yesterday was poor defending down the left and simple bad luck. I've been to Alty away games where we have created little and not looked like we would score even against ten men.
After going 2 - 1 down we keep on moving forward and it was posts, bars, a wonderful save from the keeper and rogers thunderbolt hitting a defender in the face that meant we didn't turn one point into three. I wouldn't call these excuses, on another day (Gainsborough?) they are goals.
Don't remember Stuart having a save to make and the centre halves dealt with most things well.
Whether you like the manager or you don't, I'm not sure that he could have done much differently yesterday.
And with Duncan Watmore we would have won in my opinion.
We wanted three points but we got one. Disappointing yes but 4 away points in a week is no disaster.
We need to keep the run going against BPA now.
Ecky,
However, you could argue that what he should have done differently during the close season is to have signed a better left full back though.
Mind you, filling that particular position, above all, seems to have been a recurring problem since our promotion in 2005.
With the exception of Matt Doughty's first spell with the club and the odd loanee such as James Jennings, quality left full backs at Moss Lane have been scarce in recent times.
Quite agree. He has put his faith in Matt Doughty who is a committed and honest player but I do fear will be left badly exposed if someone has a pacey right winger.
Sad to say as I like Buzz but he is better coming forward than going back and that's not really what you want.
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Generally speaking I agree, but Matt Doughty is okay. He made one or two good interceptions and going forward he showed he's still a decent crosser. And he drove into the area and had a good shot at the near post second half.
I suppose what I'm saying is that he's not ideal, but he's passable. He's a midtable standard BSN full-back. So let's just accept that's what we've got and get on with it. And give him plenty of support from the stands.
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Hear what you're saying but I still believe that the main reason we didn't win yesterday was poor defending down the left and simple bad luck. I've been to Alty away games where we have created little and not looked like we would score even against ten men.
After going 2 - 1 down we keep on moving forward and it was posts, bars, a wonderful save from the keeper and rogers thunderbolt hitting a defender in the face that meant we didn't turn one point into three. I wouldn't call these excuses, on another day (Gainsborough?) they are goals.
Don't remember Stuart having a save to make and the centre halves dealt with most things well.
Whether you like the manager or you don't, I'm not sure that he could have done much differently yesterday.
And with Duncan Watmore we would have won in my opinion.
We wanted three points but we got one. Disappointing yes but 4 away points in a week is no disaster.
We need to keep the run going against BPA now.
Ecky,
However, you could argue that what he should have done differently during the close season is to have signed a better left full back though.
Mind you, filling that particular position, above all, seems to have been a recurring problem since our promotion in 2005.
With the exception of Matt Doughty's first spell with the club and the odd loanee such as James Jennings, quality left full backs at Moss Lane have been scarce in recent times.
ultimate responsibility lies with the manager
He signs the players
He picks the tactics
He picks the players
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Generally speaking I agree, but Matt Doughty is okay. He made one or two good interceptions and going forward he showed he's still a decent crosser. And he drove into the area and had a good shot at the near post second half.
I suppose what I'm saying is that he's not ideal, but he's passable. He's a midtable standard BSN full-back. So let's just accept that's what we've got and get on with it. And give him plenty of support from the stands.
I do not accept midtable standard BSN
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Generally speaking I agree, but Matt Doughty is okay. He made one or two good interceptions and going forward he showed he's still a decent crosser. And he drove into the area and had a good shot at the near post second half.
I suppose what I'm saying is that he's not ideal, but he's passable. He's a midtable standard BSN full-back. So let's just accept that's what we've got and get on with it. And give him plenty of support from the stands.
I do not accept midtable standard BSN
Your a sheep shagger taking the piss, jog on son
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No he's not! I also don't accept mid table BSN.
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Agree with boss Hogg any luck catching the duke boys mate
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I do not accept mid table BSN
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Generally speaking I agree, but Matt Doughty is okay. He made one or two good interceptions and going forward he showed he's still a decent crosser. And he drove into the area and had a good shot at the near post second half.
I suppose what I'm saying is that he's not ideal, but he's passable. He's a midtable standard BSN full-back. So let's just accept that's what we've got and get on with it. And give him plenty of support from the stands.
If 600 of us put £20 in a bucket, will that get us Piergianni back? :)
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I do not accept midtable standard BSN
Nor do I. Nor, I suspect, does anyone else on this forum. You say some very strange stuff indeed.
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left back from Stockport possibly? - youth team player, goes by the name of Brownhill, and not Liam (he is at Bangor). Rising future star.
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JUST WANT TO SAYTHANKS GUYS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I GIVE 100 PER CENT EVERYTIME I STEP ON THAT PITCH. I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET BACK TO WHERE I AM NOW AFTER THE INJURIES I HAVE HAD. YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION LIKE ANYONE,I KNOW ITS THE MINORITY CAUSE THE MAJORITY HAVE WELCOMED ME BACK AND ITS GREAT TO BE BACK. WE WANT THE SAME THING SUCCESS SO SUPPORT THE TEAM AND ENCOURAGE.I HAVE STARTED 5 GAMES WON 3 DREW 1 AND LOST 1,I DONT THINK THATS TO BAD
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left back from Stockport possibly? - youth team player, goes by the name of Brownhill, and not Liam (he is at Bangor). Rising future star.
Its my mates son Kyle. Quality young left back.
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JUST WANT TO SAYTHANKS GUYS FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I GIVE 100 PER CENT EVERYTIME I STEP ON THAT PITCH. I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET BACK TO WHERE I AM NOW AFTER THE INJURIES I HAVE HAD. YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION LIKE ANYONE,I KNOW ITS THE MINORITY CAUSE THE MAJORITY HAVE WELCOMED ME BACK AND ITS GREAT TO BE BACK. WE WANT THE SAME THING SUCCESS SO SUPPORT THE TEAM AND ENCOURAGE.I HAVE STARTED 5 GAMES WON 3 DREW 1 AND LOST 1,I DONT THINK THATS TO BAD
Seeing as though this seems to be being ignored, I'll stick my head above the parapit.
For me when you play football at any sort of level where people watch then people will form opinions. These will be expressed on forums/facebooks etc. As a player they may infuriate you but I think it's part of being a paid professional to rise above anything you feel is unfair. I'm pretty sure many players/managers are outraged across the country by comments made but providing they are not inflammatory or personal attacks you have to be bold enough to dismiss them as "people who have never kicked a ball at any level telling you how to do your job" to your mates/family or team mates.
It's not professional to get into dialogue with fans on here in my opinion. Others may disagree.
For the record I think you are a 100% committed Alty player, I wanted you back and I hope you go on to suceed. However I reserve the right to give my opinion on what I see.
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Have to agree with Ecky on this one. I too think Matt Doughty always give 100% but this is a fans forum for fans ti air their views. Members of the playing squad will no doubt read tbh fans forum alot to see what fans think of them but they should refrain from posting as it could cause all sorts of friction.
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It's not professional to get into dialogue with fans on here in my opinion. Others may disagree.
Couldnt agree with you more Ecky. The advance of technology, in particular Twitter, has led to many footballers getting themselves into bother.
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I think people were probably unsure as to whether that was really Matty. Anyhow, I'm all for it, maybe Lee could be persuaded to follow his example!!
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don't think players should comment on the forum especially in any way likely to cause controversy or argument....saying that it's good to see players read the forum and to hear a bit of passion from Buzz.
as for that reeves rubbish...only scores from the spot and has done nothing for the club!!!! ;D ;D ;D
(That was joke before ALTYMESSI appears and tells JEZZA TO GET STUFFED!!!)
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left back from Stockport possibly? - youth team player, goes by the name of Brownhill, and not Liam (he is at Bangor). Rising future star.
if hes a rising star hes not gonna come down a level if he has a chance of playing for stockport is he? now back in the real world, Buzz, in my opinion is good enough and we dont need a new left back. its gonna take buzz a bit of time to get get back up to speed. hes jumped up 2 levels after a bad injury. and this bull sh*t of him being mid table bsn is bollocks. he played in the alty team that finished mid table in the conference. hes a proven quality full back and after a bit of time he is gonna be back to his best.
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if hes a rising star hes not gonna come down a level if he has a chance of playing for stockport is he? now back in the real world, Buzz, in my opinion is good enough and we dont need a new left back. its gonna take buzz a bit of time to get get back up to speed. hes jumped up 2 levels after a bad injury. and this bull sh*t of him being mid table bsn is bollocks. he played in the alty team that finished mid table in the conference. hes a proven quality full back and after a bit of time he is gonna be back to his best.
I like and have always liked Buzz. But he's over 30 and has had a terrible injury. Expecting him to be as good as he was in the Conference three years ago is daft. Tom Kearney was great for us at that time and now can't even play the game.
I think he's perfectly adequate and will do okay for us this season.
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if hes a rising star hes not gonna come down a level if he has a chance of playing for stockport is he? now back in the real world, Buzz, in my opinion is good enough and we dont need a new left back. its gonna take buzz a bit of time to get get back up to speed. hes jumped up 2 levels after a bad injury. and this bull sh*t of him being mid table bsn is bollocks. he played in the alty team that finished mid table in the conference. hes a proven quality full back and after a bit of time he is gonna be back to his best.
I like and have always liked Buzz. But he's over 30 and has had a terrible injury. Expecting him to be as good as he was in the Conference three years ago is daft. Tom Kearney was great for us at that time and now can't even play the game.
I think he's perfectly adequate and will do okay for us this season.
ok, admittedly expecting him to be as good as he was in unrealistic. but I do believe hes more than "ok" for this season and if we do get back up this season he will still be good enough
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left back from Stockport possibly? - youth team player, goes by the name of Brownhill, and not Liam (he is at Bangor). Rising future star.
Its my mates son Kyle. Quality young left back.
Correct, didnt know he was your mate, I see him fairly regularly now, but only really chatted to him at the weekend properly.