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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Brian Flynn on July 08, 2011, 09:27:31 AM
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Radio Robins will be providing full match coverage of saturday's game against Burnley starting at 2.45pm.
You can tune into Radio Robins via the internet on www.radiorobins.com
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Thankyou
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Thankyou
It's a pleasure!
I hope that your hopes are not too high though as we haven't done any training together.........Jack Jolly's not 100% fit.......& Simon Ellis is hanging on for better money & believed to be in talking to Dave Pace about forming 'Radio Bloods'!!!
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Thankyou
It's a pleasure!
I hope that your hopes are not too high though as we haven't done any training together.........Jack Jolly's not 100% fit.......& Simon Ellis is hanging on for better money & believed to be in talking to Dave Pace about forming 'Radio Bloods'!!!
:D :D :D
Flynn out! We're losing all our best commentators and now we're only left with that useless pie eater JJ.
And you've lost my services after you tossed my brilliant name suggestions by the wayside...your only choice now is to get in touch with that amazing commentary team, the Birch Brothers.
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Hang on a minute ...
What category do I fall into in this little contretemp ?? ???
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I hope fans will understand that as a professional it is down to me to seek to commentate at the highest possible level, that and I've heard a big up front fee might be on offer.
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I hope fans will understand that as a professional it is down to me to seek to commentate at the highest possible level, that and I've heard a big up front fee might be on offer.
If you want to commentate at the highest level I'm sure we can get you a position ontop of the roof of the main stand ?. ;D ;D
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Should be good numbers listening tomorrow,burnley seem thankful for the radio link
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2116989821
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Should be good numbers listening tomorrow,burnley seem thankful for the radio link
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2116989821
Thanks for posting that Pete.
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I'd still prefer it was kept in house as it's not like we're making any money out of the exposure from opposition fans and a large influx always seems to negatively affect the transmission......which has now left Burnley fans complaining about the breaks in transmission and the 30 second (ish) delay from real-time. I for one am truly greatful for this innovative move, exceptionally so this season given lower media profile......but in-house till we know it can stand the demand placed upon it........I want it all to myself (and other Alty fans of course).....I'm greedy like that
As said last season, I would be more than happy to pay subscription for such a service.....it's a lifeline.
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I'd still prefer it was kept in house as it's not like we're making any money out of the exposure from opposition fans and a large influx always seems to negatively affect the transmission......which has now left Burnley fans complaining about the breaks in transmission and the 30 second (ish) delay from real-time. I for one am truly greatful for this innovative move, exceptionally so this season given lower media profile......but in-house till we know it can stand the demand placed upon it........I want it all to myself (and other Alty fans of course).....I'm greedy like that
As said last season, I would be more than happy to pay subscription for such a service.....it's a lifeline.
Agreed.
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I'd still prefer it was kept in house as it's not like we're making any money out of the exposure from opposition fans and a large influx always seems to negatively affect the transmission......which has now left Burnley fans complaining about the breaks in transmission and the 30 second (ish) delay from real-time. I for one am truly greatful for this innovative move, exceptionally so this season given lower media profile......but in-house till we know it can stand the demand placed upon it........I want it all to myself (and other Alty fans of course).....I'm greedy like that
As said last season, I would be more than happy to pay subscription for such a service.....it's a lifeline.
Agreed.
The techie problems are frustrating for all concerned and Brian & myself have discussed looking into making the service more robust now we know there is an appreciative audience who will use it. My role in this has been the initial setup of the service and now background support - I'm keen to iron out the problems so the commentators can concentrate on the games confident they are broadcasting 100%. I will be looking into this further but I expect there may have to be some investment to buy a service that we can rely on - the free service we are using has done pretty well but its limitations are becoming more apparent.
If anyone has any suggestions I can be emailed at radiorobins@gmail.com
Cheers,
Paul
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I'm sure you are right about having to go for a pay stream service......it may be worth while taking a look at some of the cost options and seeing how many would be prepared to pay for a subscription service. I would have thought you could get enough of us eager listeners to pay enough to cover the setup and hosting fees. There are many that paid stupid amounts to Sultana for the prospect of one game on tv (me included).
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I'm sure you are right about having to go for a pay stream service......it may be worth while taking a look at some of the cost options and seeing how many would be prepared to pay for a subscription service. I would have thought you could get enough of us eager listeners to pay enough to cover the setup and hosting fees. There are many that paid stupid amounts to Sultana for the prospect of one game on tv (me included).
I think any reasonable fee would be very very good value.
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I'd be interested (via my business) in sponsoring a full-fat Radio Robins - if you can get some numbers together PM me.
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Just from an initial quick look:
http://www.host2stream.com/
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Only nosey as i work in the world of data how are you streaming the data? Hardwire or wirless ? Also who is the data provider and speed etc?
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Only nosey as i work in the world of data how are you streaming the data? Hardwire or wirless ? Also who is the data provider and speed etc?
Wayno.......Paul B. will probably be able to give you a definitive answer, but I think the answers to your questions are:-
1) Wireless
2) Shoutcast
3) We have tried various speeds between 24-48bps.......yesterday, because of the number of listeners, we set it at the lowest speed in the end, which was 24bps @ 22050khz (that might not be exactly correct, but I can't check at the minute as for some reason the information keeps flashing up on my screen & then immediately disappears).
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I'd be interested (via my business) in sponsoring a full-fat Radio Robins - if you can get some numbers together PM me.
Thanks bigcol, I'll be in touch.
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Thanks for the comments on this thread folks.
It was always envisaged that Radio Robins would provide revenue for the club & we will be looking at different options to achieve this, with a view to having something in place by the time the season starts.
It seems that the technical issues we experienced during the first half of yesterday's game, were caused by the number of listeners......we have never reached 200+ before, therefore we will look into utilising more robust software for the coming season.
Fortunately, we have a couple of weeks to look at this as the next game that we are considering covering is the Tranmere game on July 23rd.
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Only nosey as i work in the world of data how are you streaming the data? Hardwire or wirless ? Also who is the data provider and speed etc?
Wayno.......Paul B. will probably be able to give you a definitive answer, but I think the answers to your questions are:-
1) Wireless
2) Shoutcast
3) We have tried various speeds between 24-48bps.......yesterday, because of the number of listeners, we set it at the lowest speed in the end, which was 24bps @ 22050khz (that might not be exactly correct, but I can't check at the minute as for some reason the information keeps flashing up on my screen & then immediately disappears).
I am not an expert here- but there will be a couple of things i can see that will affecting the shoutcast transmission- first will be the fact you are streaming wirless- this always affects the quality and speed the best solotion is hardwire although i know this wont always be possible
Its also worth having no other applications running at the same time as the shoutcast as this can slow things down
In my exierence there will always be a time delay with shoutcast of anything from seconds to minutes as part of the buffering process
On the speed you selected i think the lower you get the quality suffers- i normally run it at 96kps minimum and it rarley buffers- so may be worth so more tests
On the issue of wierless i am certain you can get devices to boost the wirless network (are you using a hub or a phone netwrk signal ?)
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Only nosey as i work in the world of data how are you streaming the data? Hardwire or wirless ? Also who is the data provider and speed etc?
Wayno.......Paul B. will probably be able to give you a definitive answer, but I think the answers to your questions are:-
1) Wireless
2) Shoutcast
3) We have tried various speeds between 24-48bps.......yesterday, because of the number of listeners, we set it at the lowest speed in the end, which was 24bps @ 22050khz (that might not be exactly correct, but I can't check at the minute as for some reason the information keeps flashing up on my screen & then immediately disappears).
I am not an expert here- but there will be a couple of things i can see that will affecting the shoutcast transmission- first will be the fact you are streaming wirless- this always affects the quality and speed the best solotion is hardwire although i know this wont always be possible
Its also worth having no other applications running at the same time as the shoutcast as this can slow things down
In my exierence there will always be a time delay with shoutcast of anything from seconds to minutes as part of the buffering process
On the speed you selected i think the lower you get the quality suffers- i normally run it at 96kps minimum and it rarley buffers- so may be worth so more tests
On the issue of wierless i am certain you can get devices to boost the wirless network (are you using a hub or a phone netwrk signal ?)
Thanks for the input Wayno. The actual connection to the internet, either wired or wireless is not the issue here, certainly at Moss Lane. The problems we are encountering is a reliability with the Shoutcast service itself - we have found when it reaches a certain number of listeners the server kicks users out, won't let new listeners in and ultimately the server has to be restarted. Yesterday was a good case in point - all working fine until just before 3pm when the Shoutcast server was hit with a rush of new listeners taking it to a total of over 250 and the server just couldn't cope. We restarted it and broadcast at a lower rate and as you rightly point out, the broadcast quality suffers though it was quite acceptable yesterday. At the lower rate however, the direct web page broadcast doesn't work and listeners have to use Winamp, Media Player or RealPlayer to access the stream. The trade off is that at the lower rate (24k yesterday) the server handled 167 listeners at its peak and didn't falter again once it was settled.
The broadcast delay is just something we have to live with - I guess if people are listening to the commentary they aren't at the the game so wont be too bothered about what has been a typically (for us) 30 second lag.
Away games are a different matter - we are in the hands of the host club with regard to the internet connectivity so actually getting the commentary to Shoutcast can prove problematic in itself.
I'll open a new thread for Radio Robins Technical Discussions so that everyone else on here who wants to to talk about the far more important topic of football can ignore us geeks :D ;D
Paul