www.altyfans.co.uk

General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: GolfRoader on April 20, 2013, 06:24:16 PM

Title: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: GolfRoader on April 20, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Well done lads, a brilliant achievement, bring on 4th place!
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: hsmith1 on April 20, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
agreed well done,it is still just posible to finish 3rd
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 20, 2013, 06:34:58 PM
Pipping FC Halifax to fourth spot is important, as it could result in the Play-Off Final being staged at Moss Lane.

Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 20, 2013, 06:38:05 PM

agreed well done,it is still just posible to finish 3rd



Third spot is out of reach.

Brackley have now reached a points total of 82 and we can only achieve a final tally of 80.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: wayno on April 20, 2013, 07:10:47 PM
Pipping FC Halifax to fourth spot is important, as it could result in the Play-Off Final being staged at Moss Lane.


i am confuses is at a neutral venue the final or not?
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 20, 2013, 07:14:24 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: York Alty on April 20, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.

...which is why finishing as high as possible is advantageous.

Congrats to all , now the hard work begins!
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 20, 2013, 07:25:54 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.

...which is why finishing as high as possible is advantageous.

Congrats to all , now the hard work begins!

Exactly.

If we can finish fourth:

We beat Brackley, Massive beat Guiseley, then it's us vs Halifax at ML in the play off final!
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: hsmith1 on April 20, 2013, 07:26:52 PM
Aye you are correct 80 pts is our max(oh those missed pens) and brackley have 82,
do the winners of the North final,play the winners of the south final still?
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: wayno on April 20, 2013, 07:30:41 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on April 20, 2013, 07:38:57 PM
Aye you are correct 80 pts is our max(oh those missed pens) and brackley have 82,
do the winners of the North final,play the winners of the south final still?

No.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Hale Alty on April 20, 2013, 07:39:21 PM
Can anyone tell me the play-off dates? I need to check I'm not working.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Jezza on April 20, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
congratulations to lee and the players.....have to say I didn't think we'd make it under Lee before xmas and I am pleased absolutely delighted  to have been proved wrong in some style!

we are the form team with momentum going into the play offs....
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: robins1978 on April 20, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: wayno on April 20, 2013, 08:16:21 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !
this is why I am confused different people saying different things
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: brian1925 on April 20, 2013, 08:19:52 PM
Great performance in the 2nd half today. Scored 6, should have scored 10, could have scored 20. Luca was again outstanding, but i thought Jake played well too. A word or two for Hinckley though, never stopped trying, lovely ground and hospitable people - hope it all works out well for them. Bring on Halifax...
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: robins1978 on April 20, 2013, 08:52:36 PM
Great performance in the 2nd half today. Scored 6, should have scored 10, could have scored 20. Luca was again outstanding, but i thought Jake played well too. A word or two for Hinckley though, never stopped trying, lovely ground and hospitable people - hope it all works out well for them. Bring on Halifax...
I thought (and said on Five Live Radio) the same when we beat them 8-0 at home. Maybe after thier keeper was sent off the heads went down (at home) but generally kept going. Good Luck in the future whatever it may bring to Hinckley.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: PukkaPieman on April 20, 2013, 09:05:51 PM
Lee now has a dilemma to face before tuesday.

Does he rest key players and rotate the squad in the last two games,...or does he go for it tuesday in the hope of beating Halifax and getting 4th? Brackley do seem to have improved again, so would Guiseley really be a tougher prospect? They were no better than us last week.

The worry I have is if he does go for it, we may pick up some injuries to key players which effectively lose us the playoffs. I hope he is positive and we do go for it  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: markecky on April 21, 2013, 02:17:07 AM
Getting fourth gives us an outside chance of being at home on the final.

Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Jezza on April 21, 2013, 07:40:02 AM
I'd play a full line up against Halifax and then rest Duncan v droylsden

Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: RedhillAlty on April 21, 2013, 08:33:41 AM
Getting fourth gives us an outside chance of being at home on the final.


Agreed plus I would prefer to play Brackley rather than Guiesley.
However I would point out that our away results against these clubs have been better than those at home this season.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: RocketDan on April 21, 2013, 10:14:32 AM
On one hand, Four Reasons why we should play our strongest team on Tuesday to beat Halifax:

1) We need to win the game to give us any realist chance of getting 4th place - thus avoiding the strongest team (Guiseley) in the semi-final
2) It gives us a chance to get mental edge over them going into the play offs.
3) Keeping a lot of possession will wear them out for their game against Chester on Thursday (which we need Chester to win).
4) If we finished 4th - and Halifax beat Guiseley in the semi-final: the final would be at Moss Lane.


On the other hand, I'm thinking we should rest our key players (Watmore and Reeves) plus anyone who likely to pick us a card and get suspended. As far as I'm concerned it's job done - we're in the play offs and now want to be a fresh and injury free for the run in. On our day, I reckon we can beat any of them home or away. So i'm not sure it makes a massive difference between finishing 4th and 5th.

I'm not sure what our management or fans think is the best - but as negative as it sounds, for me I could never forgive the manager if Duncan or Reeves got injured playing in a game we didn't need to win, when we have (potentially) three massive games coming up. Maybe 30 minutes at the end of each game just to keep them sharp but not overplay them and risk injuring them. it's been a very long season, particularly for Reeves. Also, these last two games could be a decent chance to experiment with the team slightly and give other players to get match fitness.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: JT on April 21, 2013, 10:26:28 AM
Strongest team on Tuesday for me, resting anyone with any niggling injuries, e.g. Richman. 

Then a changed side at home to Droylsden, giving most of the starting XI a week to rest before the first leg of the playoff semi final.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Leon on April 21, 2013, 11:31:52 AM
On one hand, Four Reasons why we should play our strongest team on Tuesday to beat Halifax:

1) We need to win the game to give us any realist chance of getting 4th place - thus avoiding the strongest team (Guiseley) in the semi-final
2) It gives us a chance to get mental edge over them going into the play offs.
3) Keeping a lot of possession will wear them out for their game against Chester on Thursday (which we need Chester to win).
4) If we finished 4th - and Halifax beat Guiseley in the semi-final: the final would be at Moss Lane.


On the other hand, I'm thinking we should rest our key players (Watmore and Reeves) plus anyone who likely to pick us a card and get suspended. As far as I'm concerned it's job done - we're in the play offs and now want to be a fresh and injury free for the run in. On our day, I reckon we can beat any of them home or away. So i'm not sure it makes a massive difference between finishing 4th and 5th.

I'm not sure what our management or fans think is the best - but as negative as it sounds, for me I could never forgive the manager if Duncan or Reeves got injured playing in a game we didn't need to win, when we have (potentially) three massive games coming up. Maybe 30 minutes at the end of each game just to keep them sharp but not overplay them and risk injuring them. it's been a very long season, particularly for Reeves. Also, these last two games could be a decent chance to experiment with the team slightly and give other players to get match fitness.

Reason 5 would be so that Boshell can play in the semi-finals. And potentially the final, if Halifax beat Guiseley.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: brian1925 on April 21, 2013, 12:35:42 PM
100% must play our strongest team on Tuesday
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Timperley The Best on April 21, 2013, 01:17:13 PM
100% must play our strongest team on Tuesday

totally agree  ,im sure halifax will be going for it and want fourth place
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Jimmy on April 21, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
I think we will win our last 2 and sneak 4th
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Hamilton on April 21, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
We need to play out best players to get as high as possible and give ourselves the psychological edge with a couple of good wins - simple.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: JDN on April 21, 2013, 04:19:21 PM
Lee now has a dilemma to face before tuesday.

Does he rest key players and rotate the squad in the last two games,...or does he go for it tuesday in the hope of beating Halifax and getting 4th? Brackley do seem to have improved again, so would Guiseley really be a tougher prospect? They were no better than us last week.

The worry I have is if he does go for it, we may pick up some injuries to key players which effectively lose us the playoffs. I hope he is positive and we do go for it  8) 8) 8) 8)
not really a dilemma is it

Coming 4th is key, so of course we have to play our strongest team
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: markecky on April 21, 2013, 04:21:57 PM
We need to play out best players to get as high as possible and give ourselves the psychological edge with a couple of good wins - simple.

I think its far from simple Hamilton to be honest.

No question for me that the best team starts against Halifax.

However if the Droyslden results makes no difference to our place we should start the team that started yesterday even if everyone is fit.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Hamilton on April 21, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
We need to play out best players to get as high as possible and give ourselves the psychological edge with a couple of good wins - simple.

I think its far from simple Hamilton to be honest.

No question for me that the best team starts against Halifax.

However if the Droyslden results makes no difference to our place we should start the team that started yesterday even if everyone is fit.
[/b]

Fair point - we should still thrash 'em!
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 21, 2013, 05:27:14 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Mount Street Alty on April 21, 2013, 05:39:52 PM
If we want fourth then we play our strongest team possible in the last two games.....simples
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: robins1978 on April 21, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).

Ive been reliably informed the Conference has got this one wrong and have incorrect info on their website.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Saughall Robin on April 21, 2013, 07:37:26 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).

Ive been reliably informed the Conference has got this one wrong and have incorrect info on their website.

Sorry!
You appear to be correct. According to the Conference website, the final WILL be played at a neutral ground.
I think a great many people on here will be surprised by this! (including me).

APPENDIX C THE BLUE SQUARE BET NORTH & BLUE SQUARE SOUTH PLAY-OFFS & PROMOTION FINAL SEASON 2012/2013 COMPETITION RULES
 
1 At the end of the season, the clubs who finish in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, & 5th and whose registered home ground has been inspected on or before 1 April in the season and meets the Grading requirements in force that season and the Entry Criteria for Admission to Full Membership of the Football Conference Limited shall be eligible to enter the end of season Football Conference North & South Play-Offs and Promotion Final competition and in accordance with Football Conference Limited Rule 13.
 
2 Play-Off Semi-Final matches shall be played on a Two Leg basis, First Legs to be 5th v 2nd, 4th v 3rd Second Legs to be 2nd v 5th, 3rd v 4th (or lowest Placed Club(s) the end of the Playing Season to be at home in the First Legs should they have replace a club(s) who do not qualify for play-offs). A Single Leg Promotion Final at a neutral ground selected by the Football Conference Board of Directors. This rule may be varied prior to the season at a formerly constituted AGM/EGM, or Special Meeting of all clubs, but must not be varied following commencement of the season.
 
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: markecky on April 21, 2013, 07:39:19 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).

Ive been reliably informed the Conference has got this one wrong and have incorrect info on their website.

Sorry!
You appear to be correct. According to the Conference website, the final WILL be played at a neutral ground.
I think a great many people on here will be surprised by this! (including me).

The conference website is wrong and it is at the ground of the highest placed club.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: wayno on April 21, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).

Ive been reliably informed the Conference has got this one wrong and have incorrect info on their website.

Sorry!
You appear to be correct. According to the Conference website, the final WILL be played at a neutral ground.
I think a great many people on here will be surprised by this! (including me).

The conference website is wrong and it is at the ground of the highest placed club.
i have decided I am just going to see where we are playing and turn up
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: taxi Phil on April 21, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).

Ive been reliably informed the Conference has got this one wrong and have incorrect info on their website.

Sorry!
You appear to be correct. According to the Conference website, the final WILL be played at a neutral ground.
I think a great many people on here will be surprised by this! (including me).

The conference website is wrong and it is at the ground of the highest placed club.
i have decided I am just going to see where we are playing and turn up
It's at Histon  ;)
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: OldhamAlty on April 22, 2013, 01:12:34 AM
No. It's a one-off game at the home of the higher placed team.
thanks all is clear now

Not so, 2 legged semi with 2nd game at highest placed team. Final is at Neutral Venue to be decided by Conference once finalists are known.

SEE 'SINCE WHEN????????? etc' POST FOR RULES ON CONFERENCE WEBSITE !

No it isn't. Otherwise we couldn't have a chance of holding it at ML (if we finish 4th and play Halifax in the final).

Ive been reliably informed the Conference has got this one wrong and have incorrect info on their website.

Sorry!
You appear to be correct. According to the Conference website, the final WILL be played at a neutral ground.
I think a great many people on here will be surprised by this! (including me).

The conference website is wrong and it is at the ground of the highest placed club.
i have decided I am just going to see where we are playing and turn up
It's at Histon  ;)

Is that really worse than Guiseley?  ;)
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: ASMO on April 22, 2013, 08:21:21 AM
I don't care where we play final,  just as long as were in it 
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: Beaver on April 22, 2013, 12:55:57 PM
Guiseley in the semi's and Brackley in the final would be ok, or other way round. Just want to avoid Halifax in the final as they'll take loads.

Im sure we'll take a few wherever the final is so we'd give the players a real lift to see us outnumber the opposition.

If the final is at Moss Lane do we have to give up half the ground? Might not be a bad thing, we could still pack 2500 into half the ground and create a brilliant atmosphere.
Title: Re: Play-off place confirmed!
Post by: bighairedmike on April 22, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
Guiseley in the semi's and Brackley in the final would be ok, or other way round. Just want to avoid Halifax in the final as they'll take loads.

Im sure we'll take a few wherever the final is so we'd give the players a real lift to see us outnumber the opposition.

If the final is at Moss Lane do we have to give up half the ground? Might not be a bad thing, we could still pack 2500 into half the ground and create a brilliant atmosphere.

I don't think so. I seem to remember when Guiseley played at Telford a couple of years ago they were only given a tiny allocation of tickets. I suppose it would depend on who we were to play against if we got there really. I think that we could just open the away end for Guiseley/Brackley but if we were to play Halifax then we may have to give them a small section of the Pop Side as well, due to the number of fans they would bring.

EDIT: http://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/afc-telford-united/2011/05/09/sinton-afc-telford-have-achieved-nothing-yet/

"Guiseley took just 102 fans to Boston for their second leg and Carter today confirmed that they would receive an allocation of around 250 to 300 for the final - which will NOT be all-ticket for either set of supporters."