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Title: New manager
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 31, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
If another, please specify
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: wayno on August 31, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
Burr or Harvey please
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: taxi Phil on August 31, 2016, 10:30:45 AM
I'm going Askey since he kept Macclesfield afloat on tuppence halfpenny and a bag of midget gems (allegedly).
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: brinners on August 31, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
From the list Burr or Bower, but plenty of possibilities not on the list. Andy Preece (ex-Vics), John Flanagan (Curzon) and our old mate Frank Sinclair of course!
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 31, 2016, 10:49:53 AM
Paul Dickov has been mentioned in the past,also Shaun Reid, although thought Ken McKenna and Graham Heathcoate may have made the list.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Hash on August 31, 2016, 11:34:23 AM
I stand next to waldorf and statler I.recommend them to take the job they couldnt do any worse.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 31, 2016, 11:56:23 AM
Who on earth would want Dean Saunders or Steve Kitterick?!! Burr or Harvey are the stand out ones for me.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: robininstockport on August 31, 2016, 12:15:13 PM
Harvey for me. How he almost kept Halifax up last season was remarkable
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 31, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
The two big cheeses neck a neck, assume one of them will get the Guiseley job.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: jhcorbett on August 31, 2016, 06:59:20 PM
Harvey for me. How he almost kept Halifax up last season was remarkable

Exactly
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: roytonmike on August 31, 2016, 07:39:44 PM
Someone who knows this level of football & has shown that he can manage on a tight budget. I have little real idea who that might be - personally I'd rather not have a 'big name' manager - expectations are already too high in some quarters & don't need any further artificial boosts; of those currently not in work the Bower & Boshell combination fulfils my first requirement but I'm not sure about the other one. Wait & see who might apply ...
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: CB on September 01, 2016, 08:49:43 AM
Who are the 2 people who voted Dean Saunders  :D
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: AFC56 on September 01, 2016, 12:46:56 PM
Staylbridge are close to appointing their new manager , could be as early as tomorrow apparently. Wonder whether it will take out one of the list here
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Ashley Alty on September 02, 2016, 04:53:14 PM
Graham Barrow
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: York Alty is back on September 02, 2016, 04:57:28 PM
Graham Barrow

ooooh. Thinking cap on there.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Altyrocket on September 02, 2016, 05:24:59 PM
Staylbridge are close to appointing their new manager , could be as early as tomorrow apparently. Wonder whether it will take out one of the list here............................


Stalybridge Celtic have today announced a new management team of former Ashton United duo Paul Phillips and Steve Halford.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: brinners on September 02, 2016, 05:58:57 PM
And Guiseley sticking with Lockwood, for the time being at least. Any chance of Dens, Jake and Goodall staying in charge at Alty?
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: York Alty is back on September 02, 2016, 06:09:52 PM
And Guiseley sticking with Lockwood, for the time being at least. Any chance of Dens, Jake and Goodall staying in charge at Alty?

Got no choice for the County game.

Joint managers always seemed a bit odd to me, having three bods at the top is far from ideal. 

Come on Alty.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 02, 2016, 06:38:07 PM
Graham Barrow

Would be a good shout if he was unemployed but he's highly unlikely to leave the Assistant Managers job at Wigan for our job.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 02, 2016, 06:40:21 PM
And Guiseley sticking with Lockwood, for the time being at least. Any chance of Dens, Jake and Goodall staying in charge at Alty?

Goodall may possibly be interested in some sort of player/assistant/coach type deal but the other two still have plenty of football to play before they think about managing permanently.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: casper on September 02, 2016, 07:42:19 PM
Depends too much on what we dont know.

How many players have been signed on contracts to the end of the season? Of which, how many are utterly woeful? What wages are made available to bring players in? Realistically, where does our board want us to finish?

Any incoming manager wont want to work with some of the dross we have here. Really need someone who will quickly look to plug some gaps and bring in a couple decent defenders.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Man of Moss on September 02, 2016, 10:14:45 PM
Grahame gets a lot of criticism on here, a lot of which is unfounded, I've seen the guy mopping the bogs out on more than one occasion, noticed he has put an update on the managerial situation, can the bloke have a bit of credit where it's due ? Looking forward now.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Jimmy on September 02, 2016, 10:16:14 PM
Graham Barrow

Would be a good shout if he was unemployed but he's highly unlikely to leave the Assistant Managers job at Wigan for our job.
yes a good but unrealistic shout
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: GB Alty on September 02, 2016, 10:17:31 PM
Grahame gets a lot of criticism on here, a lot of which is unfounded, I've seen the guy mopping the bogs out on more than one occasion, noticed he has put an update on the managerial situation, can the bloke have a bit of credit where it's due ? Looking forward now.
maybe he should stick to mopping the bogs?
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Jimmy on September 02, 2016, 10:19:17 PM
I'd say the next manager should be one that hasn't failed badly in their previous job as managers,as the last 3 had,this may mean going down a league.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Man of Moss on September 02, 2016, 10:23:26 PM
Lee Sinnot failed? Did he really? Would you take that promotion now?
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on September 02, 2016, 10:28:29 PM
Lee Sinnot failed? Did he really? Would you take that promotion now?

The quote was 'failed badly in the PREVIOUS job as manager'
I don't recall him getting promotion at Port Vale.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Jimmy on September 02, 2016, 10:32:25 PM
And Bradford PA Thankyou Blindbat people should think before they reply also should've gone up quicker than 3 seasons lucky to have the chance.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Man of Moss on September 02, 2016, 11:02:05 PM
Let's talk about previous jobs then cos that's really relevant
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Jimmy on September 02, 2016, 11:04:34 PM
So what's the plan bring someone in regardless of their track record
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: Man of Moss on September 02, 2016, 11:12:28 PM
Can't be arsed to argue any more, going tomorrow to support the boys, that's it, come on Alty, so glad to see Tim back
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: bighairedmike on September 03, 2016, 10:26:33 AM
Let's talk about previous jobs then cos that's really relevant

Previous jobs are not irrelevant.

Young failed at Stockport, was given the job here and failed (even more woefully than before) again.

Neil Tolson was given the job last year after a poor managerial record at Conf North level and he failed again (he shouldn't have been given the job anyway, he was a poor managerial choice).

That's just two appointments at our club in the past 6 months. The list from elsewhere goes on and on.

Let's sign a manager with a proven track record in this division or is used to a relegation scrap, knows the need for grit and bollocks and has some form of tactical know-how.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: GolfRoader on September 03, 2016, 11:35:34 AM
And Bradford PA Thankyou Blindbat people should think before they reply also should've gone up quicker than 3 seasons lucky to have the chance.


Yeah I agree with you on Young because we could all see what we were in for if he'd stayed any longer but the signs of improvement were there with Sinnott in his first year.

You have to be realistic at this level I think, there are going to be maybe 1 or 2 managers across most of non league that will work miracles and get teams promoted at the first time of asking. The rest will either take time to build something capable of promotion or fail. Instances of  managers being majorly successful without financial clout are very rare and the ones that do achieve that like Cowley at Braintree last season perhaps, are snapped up straight away. (this is probably why Young didn't have a long list of offers after leaving Chester)

That's is simply due to the fact that we are in the 6th tier of English football so the best managers will move up. That leaves Alty to with 2 options:

Sign a known manager that can build a team but needs time or to sign a manager from 2 leagues below that is working miracles somewhere and give him a chance.

Either way this is not the premier league and we do not have the luxury to be able to demand instant wins, great performances and titles straight away.What you would expect however is a few wins, some good performances and indications that the squad is going in the right direction. Obviously these expectations are adjusted by what league this club is in but as long as those signs are there then we as supporters should offer whoever is in charge some time to actually have the chance to be successful before he's turned on.
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: wayno on September 03, 2016, 12:52:12 PM
And Bradford PA Thankyou Blindbat people should think before they reply also should've gone up quicker than 3 seasons lucky to have the chance.


Yeah I agree with you on Young because we could all see what we were in for if he'd stayed any longer but the signs of improvement were there with Sinnott in his first year.

You have to be realistic at this level I think, there are going to be maybe 1 or 2 managers across most of non league that will work miracles and get teams promoted at the first time of asking. The rest will either take time to build something capable of promotion or fail. Instances of  managers being majorly successful without financial clout are very rare and the ones that do achieve that like Cowley at Braintree last season perhaps, are snapped up straight away. (this is probably why Young didn't have a long list of offers after leaving Chester)

That's is simply due to the fact that we are in the 6th tier of English football so the best managers will move up. That leaves Alty to with 2 options:

Sign a known manager that can build a team but needs time or to sign a manager from 2 leagues below that is working miracles somewhere and give him a chance.

Either way this is not the premier league and we do not have the luxury to be able to demand instant wins, great performances and titles straight away.What you would expect however is a few wins, some good performances and indications that the squad is going in the right direction. Obviously these expectations are adjusted by what league this club is in but as long as those signs are there then we as supporters should offer whoever is in charge some time to actually have the chance to be successful before he's turned on.
an intelligent post

And very accurate

The biggest worry is that while neil should have been building his foundations he has ripped the team to peices

A lot of damage done in a short time

Big challenge for who comes in
Title: Re: New manager
Post by: jhcorbett on September 03, 2016, 05:21:38 PM
The two big cheeses neck a neck, assume one of them will get the Guiseley job.

Why are these the big cheeses?
Are they bigger cheeses (in football) than say, Deano Maunders or Mark Robins, for instance?
What is the definition of a big cheese from your list?