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Title: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Jenga on April 18, 2008, 12:51:51 PM
How would this work should the unthinkable happen and Rotherham go out of existance?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rotherham_utd/7354203.stm

One more team up from the BSP to replace them? leaving only three to go down?
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Daycare Dan on April 18, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
Only two come down from League 2, I suspect one of the bottom two would avoid relegation and the BSP would be left a team light.

Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: blackpoolalty on April 18, 2008, 01:10:30 PM
I sometimes wonder if more of the bigger clubs could help with lets say 'a friendly'. I thought Chelsea could have helped Scarborough a few years back, they had that connection through th FA cup, one game could generate about £500k and would surely 'save' the club. Then on the other hand you could say you've made your bed now lie in it.
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Daycare Dan on April 18, 2008, 01:13:02 PM
I sometimes wonder if more of the bigger clubs could help with lets say 'a friendly'. I thought Chelsea could have helped Scarborogh a few years back, they had that connection through th FA cup, one game could generate about £500k and would surely 'save' the club. Then on the other hand you could say you've made your bed now lie in it.

Scarborough did not deserve any help for anybody, they made over £1m from the Chelsea game and ended up £2m in the red. If you manage to do that in what 3 years you deserve to go our of business.
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Mick on April 18, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
Extremely doubtful that any league would get an extra promotion spot........more likely a reprieve of a relegated club. Not sure why, but just seems more logical.

If this 'cascaded' down then each league would lose a relegation place eg ........if Rotherham leave the league, then only two will go down, but 3 still come up from League 2. Applying this to the next level, only one team is relegated from league 2, but 2 come up from BSP.....................only 3 teams relegated from BS, but 4 still come up etc etc until the Jacksons Boat get into the Mid Cheshire League.

Anyway it will not happen. The Millers will be rescued.
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: blackpoolalty on April 18, 2008, 01:17:07 PM
Yeh I agree there Daycare, bit shocking I suppose, maybe I shouldn't have used Scarborough as an example and I dont know whats happened at Rotherham but it sounds as like a few things were out of their hands, wonder if Liam King fancies going part time and doing a local pysio course..  ;)
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Daycare Dan on April 18, 2008, 01:20:53 PM
wonder if Liam King fancies going part time and doing a local pysio course..  ;)

Heres hoping!!  ;D
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: bigcol on April 18, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
Not only Rotherham, look at the implications if Leeds get back some or all of their points in League 1?  Carlise have already said they'll counter-sue if they don't get promoted if Leeds get points back, and the verdicts of the Leeds trial isn't due till way after the end of the season.

How can the league organise a play-off if a judge nods his head one day and they find that there is a team in the playoffs who shouldn't be?

I suppose this is the knock on from trying to punish teams who break the rules, they are entitled to appeal, but that appeal process is a lot slower and more complicated than the original dishing outs.

What ever happened to three points for a win? ;)
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Bob on April 18, 2008, 02:38:02 PM
I sometimes wonder if more of the bigger clubs could help with lets say 'a friendly'. I thought Chelsea could have helped Scarborough a few years back, they had that connection through th FA cup, one game could generate about £500k and would surely 'save' the club. Then on the other hand you could say you've made your bed now lie in it.

Any club in the country is capable of living within its means.   Clubs go into debt or go bust not because they aren't earning enough, its because they recklessly spend money they never had in the first place.
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Jenga on April 18, 2008, 03:33:26 PM
Probably right in that a second division club would get a repreive from relegation, makes more sense and only affects one club in one league rather than cascading it down loads of leagues. ^^
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: markecky on April 18, 2008, 03:58:20 PM
If they go won't that leave the Conference one short if one goes down?  So only three down for us?
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Jenga on April 18, 2008, 04:53:28 PM
If they go won't that leave the Conference one short if one goes down?  So only three down for us?

I think you might be right here :-)   but my brain hurts, it has been a long day  ::)
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: DarrenH on April 18, 2008, 05:03:28 PM
There is no mention of any of this on the Rotherham site !!!
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Mick on April 18, 2008, 05:55:38 PM
Cocked up my reply, but stick by my logic

I thought Rotherham were still in league 1 !!!
I still think that if a league 'loses' a team, then it will reprieve a doomed club, rather than allow an extra club in from below. Hence if the Millers cease to exist only Wrexham down, but still Aldershot and Cambridge up.

BSP can then reprieve Vics (when we finish 5th from bottom)
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: blackpoolalty on April 18, 2008, 07:56:02 PM
FAO Big Col, it appears that they will be making a decision pretty quick..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/7354091.stm
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: chrisrufc on April 19, 2008, 12:17:46 AM
I feel like I should contribute to this thread but everything has already been said.  Tom Cahill started the other week and the crowd booed the manager when he was subbed
Title: Re: The AGM Cup? Rotherham?
Post by: Toff Apple on April 19, 2008, 07:16:17 AM
This could be good news for wrexham, local fans feel chestyer will go into admin soon and lose 10 points putting them bottom of the league